Supernatural "Remember the Titans" Review: Ain't No Mountain High Enough

Supernatural S08E16: “Remember the Titans” 

I feel like the whole mystery surrounding Prometheus’s appearance on Supernatural might have been a little more exciting if whoever writes the official episode descriptions hadn’t let that one out of the bag right there in the blurb. Supernatural’s blurbs seem to run the gamut between telling us nothing and telling us everything and this week, it was certainly the latter. Idk, Sam and Dean’s struggles to figure out Shane’s real identity just had me yelling “It’s Prometheus you morons!” the entire time. Having already been handed the solution to the mystery and not particularly caring about the baggage girlfriend and curse-afflicted kid who we will never see again, I mostly just wanted to get through this so we could go back to our regularly scheduled A-story. 

So Prometheus, THAT Prometheus, came down off of ”a mountain in Europe” in an avalanche, totes forgot who he was,  banged a chick named Hayley, made a baby named Ollie, and then got hit by a car, mistaken for a zombie, mauled by a bear before winding up in a motel room with a pair of Winchesters and a seriously pissed ex-girlfriend. Dean was under the impression that Sam had found him a good old fashioned zombie case to alleviate the boredom of waiting for Kevin and Castiel to pop back up with some tablet news—or pop up at all, in Castiel’s case—but he soon found that this case of the week was a bit more complicated than that. Only a little, though.

Back in the day, Zeus got mad at humankind and took away our fire. Prometheus stole it back for us (thanks, pal!) and wound up chained to the side of a mountain where an eagle would eat his liver every day for the rest of eternity. With that in mind, the bird noshing on his guts after his first on-screen death made for some terrible, wonderful lulz. I like when Supernatural implies that it knows its classic mythology, even if it inevitably gets butchered later.

Once Shane’s real identity was known, it was a pretty straightforward hunt. Hayley revealed that Oliver inherited Prometheus’s death-resurrection cycle and all things considered, took it very well for a seven-year-old. Dean was immediately on Team Prometheus (and his Little Bastard Child Too) because the Winchesters know a thing or two about (almost) eternal torment in exchange for saving the world.


Blah blah blah negotiating with Zeus to drop Ollie’s curse didn’t go so well and everything looked bleak because Token Dumbass Civilian Hayley fell for the old vengeful-ancient-gods-can-have-hearts-too routine and let Z out of his cage.  But in the end, Artemis fell for Sam’s I’m-the-brother-who-wields-empathy-like-a-sword-and-I’m-totally-not-manipulating-you-into-being-a-good-person-at-all routine and put an arrow through Daddy. I mean, she totally put it through Prometheus, but eventually it took Zeus out, too. Teamwork makes the dream work, baby. 

Through it all, Sam continued his trend of randomly bleeding, but Dean isn’t nearly as clueless as we were initially led to believe and while he lacks specifics, he’s onto Sam. Sam, to his credit, took a teeny-tiny baby step toward telling Dean what’s been going on when he floated the idea that he might not live through the God trials after all, but I honestly would've rather he just told Dean about the bleeding and the coughing and whatnot instead of going full noble sacrifice. It was such a huge moment in Winchester history for Sam to take on the trials and not only be determined to survive, but to be confident that he COULD survive; to suddenly revert to standard Winchester mentality cheapens the moment. I don’t blame him for being alarmed at the physical toll the trials seem to be taking, but even Dean conceded that they’re flying blind into that particular mission. 

The blood looks bad, totally, but right now, Sam’s optimism looks worse, like it was never that strong to begin with... and fine, maybe it WASN’T. I will so not criticize the Winchesters for being eternal pessimists. I mean, look at their lives. LOOK AT THEM.  But I thought we had a moment there after the hellhound slaughter! I thought we had grown as people! 

Supernatural’s tone can shift at the drop of a dime, from episode to episode, and even within an episode—like THIS episode, which was 90 percent standard monster-of-the-week with a touch of humor followed by 10 percent Winchester angst and that music they always play when someone dies. By shaking Sam’s confidence, even if it was just to give us that almost-honest moment between the brothers in the Impala, the tone of the remainder of the season going into the mythology-heavy tablet-and-trials stuff has suddenly lost its momentum and that’s kind of a bummer. That the Winchesters will somehow succeed is a given. That there will be a big sacrifice required is also assumed. The exciting part about the trials so far, for me, has been the change in everything leading up to the finale. Not gonna lie—sometimes it feels like a chore to watch these two get knocked down and knocked down and knocked down some more. Even when they win, they usually wind up on the floor, and witnessing that becomes even more difficult when the characters themselves seem uneager to save the world yet again. Having Sam declare that they were going to close Hell and they were going to win and they were BOTH going to live flipped a switch. The Winchesters were ready to go, and so was I. 

But all is not lost! While Sam seems to be accepting his inevitable death, or at least considering the possibility of it, Dean has, however reluctantly, picked up Sam’s discarded hope and claimed it as his own. Sort of. Whether Dean truly believes that Sam can still finish the trials and survive is certainly up for debate given his desperate plea to Castiel to look out for his little brother (TISSUES. I NEED TISSUES. ALL OF THE TISSUES.,) but at least he’s paying lip service to the idea of life after the trials. He even gave Sam his version of a pep-talk, “If you die, it’s gonna be because of something normal.”

Not exactly a ringing endorsement considering that in the past Sam has died from getting stabbed, struck by lightning, and shot—which okay, aren’t as mundane as like, old age, but also aren’t exactly X-Files storylines either. Even in “Remember the Titans,” Prometheus died from a heart attack that one time, but it’s okay, I’ll take it. Dean tried. Sam may have been quick to return to the Winchester norm, but at least Dean is making an almost-solid effort. 

And now we go on a mini-hiatus. Eew. 

Catch you March 20th! Kisses!

What did you think of this week’s episode?


CASE NOTES

– Smart Winchester Sighting? Sam playing on Artemis’s feels for Prometheus was clever. I like to think he was reading her body language or something, because she was SO not feeling Daddy’s torture-the-seven-year-old plan as opposed to blind luck, but then again, I guess even Winchesters need to get lucky sometimes. Dean’s “You’re doing GREAT!” had me in stitches. It was a good night for comedic Jensen Ackles.

– No, seriously, Jensen Ackles is so freaking funny. From the “We’re legacies” speech to the continued flaunting of the Dead Guy Robe to “Woodchipper beats everything. So does grizzly bear,” dude was HILARIOUS this week. You know, when he wasn’t wangstfully praying to Castiel to save Sam’s sneaky self. Again.

– Loved the cop who was totally down with the possibility of Shane/Prometheus being a zombie. “Aim for the head!”

– Sam: “Who do we know who has Jason-Bourne-like fighting skills, dies a lot, and has a history with violent women?” Dean: “I don’t know. You?” It’s funny cuz it’s true.

– WHERE. IS. CASTIEL? I’m not even a huge Cas fan honestly (sorry), but this is just getting ridiculous.

– Theories about the blood?  

– Anyone else get the '60s Batman theme song stuck in their head every time they see the Men of Letters lair on the screen? No? Just me? Okay then.
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This episode was beyond boring. BEYOND.
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No Cas cause his storyline is likely to be the focus of next season. I doubt the blood issue is really anything other than to add drama/angst.

I fully enjoyed the comic relief of this episode. Some hilarious lines, as mentioned in the footnotes.
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The introduction of Greek Gods could be brilliant if they don't just discard it again. Can you imagine a Hades who has a bad case of angst about being God of the underworld, Poseidon forgetting how to swim, Heracles turning out to be a real dickwad... the possibilities to mess are endless!
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Marginally better than last week but not by much.... best to avoid gods and witches me thinks...storylines and dialogue plummet in quality. If they are going to do monster of the week I wish it would be dark and scary with some good fight sequences like in the old days...As soon as Artemis showed up it started getting worse...why must chicks in scifi/supernatural shows always wear tight leather...surely they get all sweaty and fighting in such tight duds must be a real bind....
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hahaha brilliant
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Actually, I am glad with this episode because it opened the possibility that indeed ancient pantheons other than the Judeo-Christian are viable mythologies. This gives me hope that something along those lines will await us when the Mesopotamian tablets will be translated at last.The other, minor news, is that the kid will survive as a Titan half breed without the Promethean curse.
Even if untold, I would have guessed it was Prometheus when the eagle was eating its side and he came back alive. My disappointment is that Almighty Zeus was dealt with so easily; and the Artemis character was as unconvincing.One would have thought that Zeus had the juice to zap anyone into smithereens at one go. I mean a taser gun has more juice than what he had.And the errors in the mythologies, arghghghghgh. You would think that by now they had someone to research the mythological creatures and characters they use on the show.
My favorite part is how proud and proprietary they have become, especially Dean, with their new HQ. It is kind of endearing and shows a very human side to both of them.
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Sometimes it feels like Dean is the only real character in the show and Sam plus monsters are just there to see how much suffering Dean can take.
It would be nice to see them going into this with the thought of surviving. To fight without doubt until, if need be, one of them dies, but only screaming and kicking.
Instead we get a sad dean and a whining sam. Didn't we have enough of this yet?
That said, the episode was pretty good, but such huge lore as the greek gods and the rise of man could have fueled a very big storyline. It is kind of sad to waste it like this. Especially the god of hunters, which can be a huge deal for sam and dean.
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I completely agree. As I was watching the first bit of this episode all I was thinking was "golly, I wish I didn't know that was Prometheus"... It completely made the episode blah, even though it wasn't a bad episode. Though I must hand it to Jensen Ackles, his facial reactions during that scene between Artemis and Sam was priceless. The entire episode was just field with tiny moments that were just hilarious (Dean trying to explain how important they was also really good).

Also, even if you really want to help your child. HE"S A FREAKING GOD WITH GOD LIKE POWERS... It's not someone wouldn't understand what GOD LIKE POWERS would mean. Why would you let the obviously douche of a god out of the trap that prevents him from melting your face? I could just be jaded, but that entire bit just made me want to stab myself in the eye.
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1. From the first exchange between Art and Pro, it was obvious they had the hot for each other. I mean they were hinting at it pretty hard the entire time.
2. I completely agree, almost every scene with Ackles was priceless this week.
3. I did enjoy the fact the cop was all gun ho about the zombies. "we aren't tracking zombies because zombies aren't real..." priceless!
4. Yup
5. Pretty sure what's her name is drilling into his head because of some reason
6. I have this whole theory where Sam is going to become god at the end, or a demon and Dean has to kill him to end the entire thing.
7. Now that you mention it, it does remind me of 60s Batman.
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And speaking of a show that gets greek mythology wrong..... As bad and cheesy as Supernatural has been lately, I was hoping maybe the show would just go full-on intentionally cheesy, and that Kevin Sorbo would show up and kick Zeus' ass for everybody. And then maybe Ares (RIP Kevin Smith) could've come on too and had some funny dimwitted one-liners.
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Hehe, I was hoping for more Xena and Hercules shout outs. I'm glad we at least got the Xena one!
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good one ideal of fighting gods reminded me of Immortals good job Robert Singer
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i liked the idea of them fighting greek gods...but this episode was just ok, it didnt like it as much as the few past weeks have givien us
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i liked the episode
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Oh, my theory about the blood is that it is somehow turning Sam slowly into an angel (it was something to do with the white light thing and the fact that the spell in in angelic language which none of them knows and Cas wasn't around to say, crap guys, I probably should be the one doing these trials).

Did anyone else have to moment of confusion from actual knowledge of Greek mythology and then confusion from Hercules, Xena and Percy Jackson with the though...Ollie is actually a god or at least he is a demi god on level with the traditional gods isn't he?

I must confess, I didn't think of the Promesthus thing. While I knew we were dealing with gods (seriously CW, you need to work on not being so spoilerly in your previews), I just assumed we were jokingly referring to the football movie.
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I don't know why - maybe just like you because of the white light - I also thought that he is going to change into an angel. Whatever it is, I don't think he is dying.
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It would present an interesting angle for next year.
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Supernatural having fun with classic mythology; not for the first time. There were some usual twists and turns, but nothing incredibly outstanding.

I generally liked the portrayal of Prometheus, even if he seemed rather lost. That curse was more than a little inconvenient. The temporary deaths accounted for some dark humor (and a very SPN-like reference with a bird feasting on his intestines...).
Zeus came across as a menacing, sadistic bastard. So he had to go (a stylish self-sacrifice move, Mr. Prometheus), and no one cried after him. I'm not convinced whether Artemis fully fit into that picture, but at least she didn't feel so much out of place as Hayley and the kid did.

As is often the case, the brothers were overpowered rather quickly and very easily. As is often the case, it greatly annoyed me. I would really, really like to start seeing better pre-planning (as well as some backup planning) from our hunters. Be prepared for all contingencies guys, damn it! Like, not turning your backs and leaving a silly civilian woman one on one with a tricky god. Relying on dumb luck ("maybe something/someone will suddenly come to our rescue") or one's charms ("maybe I can just play on this chick's emotions and make her have a change of heart") can only go so far.

We also had guests at the Men of Letters' secret base - that's a first. I doubt that they were aware of this particular honor, though. The research part worked out quite well.
Dean had some hilariously awesome moments ("We're legacies"), because that's what Dean does best.
Dean also had a very serious moment at the end, with his semi-prayer directed at Castiel. I thought it was a good emotional move, because it's rare that Dean allows himself to admit that he is at a loss and ask for help. Plus it's about time for our friendly neighborhood angel to resurface.

At least this episode tried to make some amends with regards to "the brothers keeping secrets from each other yet again" issue. From Sam's foreshadowing to Dean's being aware that not everything is fine. Of course that's not good enough (just tell him already, Sam), but an attempt duly noted. I do hope they don't lose their resolve.

In the end, it was just your plain serviceable episode. Normally I wouldn't mind that much and would just move on, but the timing was rather disappointing. With a 3 weeks-long break I expected that we would be offered some proper developments, something that would keep us waiting for more. Instead, we were served an arguably forgettable piece of content. I wish Supernatural had waited with another filler episode until number 18 or 19 of the season (if they really, really had to do it). Two in a row (and rather average ones, too) is no good - especially as it's halted the perfect momentum that the show had just a while ago.
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How completely Dean was that bedhead of his? Stacked full of weapons xD hilarious. The episode was fine, but I want to move on with the storyline as well, this was extremely predicable.
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I've only seen one theory anywhere about all of the bleeding Sam is doing. Something about his blood being purified. He is the Boy With The Demon Blood, afterall. Probably not the case, but I thought it was an interesting theory.

I didn't mind this episode so much. I wish they hadn't given away Prometheus' identity before the episode started and that they hadn't killed him in the end. It made sense and totally worked that they did, but the way people can randomly show back up on this show, and how the boys seem to be building some kind of army or at least gaining allies, having a Titan on your side seemed like a good idea (maybe they still have Artemis, though she wasn't much more than a pretty girl in tight clothing).
The episode once again reaffirmed the Sam = Smart, Dean = Dumb but good at punching things vein that's been going on. We get it. Jensen Ackles is good at the funny faces but the dude is also fantastic with the drama. I did like that we saw so much of Dean in this episode. He knew something's wrong with Sam but isn't being the overprotective mother hen (he's just, you know, asking his angel friend for help). After just getting a "you trust nobody but you" thing from Sam last episode, we see Dean practically begging Castiel for help keeping Sam safe.
The next three weeks are going to suck but at least Castiel, Crowley, and Meg are back.
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I've seen that theory floating around too. It's one of my faves.

Cas, Crowley and Meg yessss! I'm excited for some Meg action.
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I have to agree with you that the highlights of this season - Dean in Purgatory, what happened to trap Castiel, the tablets, have all been hurt by lack of momentum, every time I get really jazzed about a new storyline, it gets muddled, and I think it's because of the monster-of-the-week drop-ins, when they are good, they are great (such as Everybody Hates Hitler) but a good number have been clunkers (Bitten, Man's Best Friend) and I've had my head turned around by the times the brothers are on the same page, then step backward the next, the continuity or lack of it, is inexplicable, would it take so much for the writers to read each other's episodes? This week, I was confused by the boys bringing back people to the Batcave, I hoped they made them wear blindfolds.
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I don't like the episode, the whole Prometheus story felt boring to me.Perhaps if they made a story more centric to Zeus would have been better.
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I thought the "we're legacies.." thing was adorable, he clearly wanted them to be impressed like "we're kind of a big deal, trust us" haha

I really miss the feel of Supernatural in the beginning where the show had a darker/scarier feel but things were still hopeful. The stories were better and even the filler leading up the main story was stronger..idk I guess it's the natural progression of the show and I rather have this Supernatural than no Supernatural so I should stop complaining
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Another funny filler episode. *sigh*
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I have one question....Do sam and Dean now have a bow and arrow that can kill the immortals, since artemis just left it there?
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I am hoping they still have the arrow, the bow went with Artemis though.
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Nope....She left it....you can watch again to confirm it.
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in that case, I cant imagine they have it, Dean would have put that above his bed, like a horny teenager with a swimsuit poster.
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I think Sam is turning into an Angel...or God! since he is "missing" ..speaking of God...BRING CHUCK BACK!
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Also, rewatching the episode, does anyone find it funny that Zeus reads tabloid papers? Since Sam said that when Zeus saw the article, Artemis had to start hunting for Prometheus again.

He must have sent his daughter on a lot of zombie-hunting quests...
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The scene with Dean praying to Cas made me cry too :( I think he knows that Sam is maybe not gonna make it trough this and he realizes that there is really nothing he can do to save his brother this time, and he doesn't want Sam to see him like this. He's turning to Cas now because he's the only other friend he has left and prays to him cause Cas has always come trough for him in the past and I think he is really hoping that he will come through this time too. Dean also seems to be scared cause he doesn't know what's going on with Sammy and he has no idea where Cas is...my heart is breaking for him!!

Ok enough with the pain...I loved Dean's lines this episode. He was so proud explaining to Shane what the Men of Letters are and that he's a "legacy" and the faces he was making when then were pinned to the wall by Artemis and Sam was messing with her were just so hilarious and so Dean.

Kinda sucks that we have to wait till the 20th for a new episode but I am just so excited that finally Crowley, Cas and Meg (missed her soooo much!!) will be in an episode together!
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Also, Dean I might believe it. But how dumb is Sam that he didn't figure out that fulgarite can be found easily and cheaply at any New Age jewelry shop?
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Eh, I thought the writing was pretty flabby.

1) Where the heck were they doing the Zeus-summoning ceremony? It looked like a power plant, and the dam is sort of a power plant. But why have it at their home?

2) So what was meant by Prometheus and Oliver dying once per day? Did something just accidentally kill them? Were they that accident-prone? Or did they just have heart attacks if nothing else killed them? Did Prometheus sit in his cabin and have a heart attack every day? If he knew that, why didn't he give the Winchesters some warning?
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It seemed like they were extremely accident prone but the one time Prometheus didn't have any mishaps, he just keeled over from a heart attack.
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Kenny!! loved both the South Park and TWD references!
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If one can summon a god at will, then that god is not a god. How can they summon Zeus? This sh*t is just pissing me off. Maybe I am reading too much into this.
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In the Supernatural universe gods' are only as powerful as the number of worshippers they have. Since not very many humans worship the greek gods anymore it is not inconsistent that they are not much more powerful than other supernatural beings.
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Zeus, the God of Gods, was trapped in a freaking magical circle? Zeus, the God of Law, Order, Justice, the Sky, Lighting, and Thunder, was easily dispatched by a silly arrow? Zeus, the ruler of the Olympians, was summoned by a freaking spell? I loathe the manner in which these "gods" were treated like mini Demons. These are gods, not lowly demons or angels. It was a very bad idea to begin with.
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Zeuz said he was angry with Prometheus because he gave the gift of fire to humanity, which robbed the gods of their power, even Sam taunted Artemis for being less powerful, telling Dean that they would have prayed to her as the Goddess of Hunters. And they've often run into pagan gods on Supernatural (the Christmas couple, Paris Hilton) who have lost their power because they are no longer worshipped/believed in.
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I think they are treated like they were in Neil Gaiman's American Gods, he use to be all powerful, but not alot of worshippers anymore, so he has a high level of supernatural power, but not like he use to. The rules changed when he was surplanted by the newer God/gods. And some of the magic/angel voodoo works for everyone.
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nice Gaiman reference! I agree.
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AGREE! and they having Artemis the goddess known for virginity to be in love with Prometheus? WTF?
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I didn't mind that Artemis was no longer a virgin, but note that Sam says she fell in love with Prometheus, it doesn't mean their love was sexual in nature. (though before she attacked him with a knife they were pretty snuggly, then again, if he was chained to a mountain with an eagle eating his liver for eons, it would have been a bit difficult to have sex)
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I didnt really mean her being a virgin, she was the goddess of virginity itself.... besides if they did get freaky i would assume it was before the fire stealing fiasco haha
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In thinking about the big picture with Sam and Dean trying to close the gates of hell, the trials kind of remind me of another Greek myth. You know the one where Hercules had to perform all those trials? Perhaps, Sam is being elevated on the human scale? To someone who has godlike powers? Just a thought.
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I thougt the same thing! that or becoming an angel....
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That sounds intresting, perhaps you are right.
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Supernatural have been all over this season with the story line and episodes. The first half, was partly horrible due to Sam's stupid and lets be honest, irritating and cringe worthy flashbacks. So just when I think we are back on track with a new men of letters story arc and progress on closing the gates, this episode comes and kind of mucks it up a bit. I know we are all used to the fact that episodes can vary in quality, but I always expect so much more. Its not that it was a bad episode, it had some great moments and Jensen wins ALL the awards this episode by showcasing what an amazingly talented actor he is! The funny bits where pretty great and the emotional bit at the end, had me wishing I could take Sam's place so that him and Dean could ride of in to the sunset. But besides that, the whole Greek gods and the trails story lines didn't really do it for me. I love Greek gods and the stories that are there are all ready so good, so the way this was presented was average at best, but I guess that's what you get when you are the fan of a show that usually is kicks ass all the way!
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yea i keep forgeting that the first half of this season with Ameila and Benny wasnt a season in itself! lol
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It's okay, me too.
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I thought the episode was pretty boring. They never really do much with the god mythology, and I hate when a big battle happens and the boys are smushed against a wall and don't do anything. The lovely light that started with Grandpa Winchester and ended with the hell hound slaying has dimmed and for two weeks now we're back to inconsistent characterization, silly monster of the week filler, and angst. At least Dean didn't yell at Sam for long periods of time and there weren't bestiality jokes, but really that's a pretty low bar.
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Pretty much all of this.

It was also pretty irritating that Sam and Dean were basically useless in the last fight for two weeks in a row. At least space that crap out!

I know how you feel about the light dimming. I'm disappointed in the last two episodes, but I have high hopes for when the show comes back on the 20th. Now that I KNOW the show is capable of being awesome again (as opposed to the last two seasons where it pretty much just wallowed in suck every week) I'm excited for the rest of the season. The tablet stuff is cool. The Naomi and Cas stuff was cool the last time we saw it. If they could just stay away from the filler, it would be great.
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honestly some of the past seasons (not just last two) there have been some filler episodes I'll just skip towards the end of, as there is usually a bit of A-story plot development. Reminds me of some (don't kill me, ppl!) Buffy episodes.
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This case was so, so bad. The guest actors were awful except maybe for Zeus, the story was boring. Prometheus didn't even remembered why the hell he helped mankind. His son was lacking any resemblance of emotion... the only good thing was Dean and his funny self. "You will die of something normal, like a heart attack. Eat your burger."
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Oliver was supposed to be lacking in emotion. The kid, I'm sure, has been traumatized. He hadn't spoken since he started randomly dying every day. I'm sure that would do something to a kid's psyche. And they had to kind of give Prometheus amnesia. It's called a plot device. The boys had to figure out who he was and try to help him, otherwise there wouldn't have been much of an episode. It wasn't their strongest, but it wasn't bad either.
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Fine, I got Prometheus amnesia... But I think the kid could look at least scared. And the mother wasn't convincing at all... at least not for me.
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Random thought - I was wondering if Ollie was a reference to a show about a certain vigilante who's nickname is Ollie that airs before SPN...
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I honestly didn't like this episode, which is weird because I usually love Pagan God-centered eps. ("Hammer of the Gods" is my second favorite Supernatural episode next to Devil's Trap) Zeus was great, but I HATED Prometheus and his son. Wooden isn't even close to describing the crappy acting these two had.

I also highly doubt Zeus could be killed that easily. When Chronos died, he was spurting blood and veins were coming out of his face and neck. When Osiris "died," his body mummified. Gods bodies change physically when they die in this series. Zeus got stabbed in the stomach with an arrow, and it was established that the only way to kill him was with the same type of wooden stake that was used to kill Chronos. Sure, the arrow probably probably put Zeus into a deep coma, but look at the body. No real change, not like Osiris and Chronos. I would love Zeus to come back later down the line, maybe as an ally to fight, say, Typhon, the only monster in Greek myth that was stronger than the gods, or the rest of the Titans like Hyperion, Oceanus, Rhea, Atlas, and Kronos, Zeus's father (The Supernatural Season 7 companion stated that the Time God Dean fought wasn't the Titan and there are two mythical dieties named Kronos/Chronos.)

My last gripe is Sam. Sam spent all episode lat week convincing Dean that he was up for the trials, and now that Dean is finally 100% on board with it, Sam suddenly doesn't think he can do it? Totally unnecessary. If Sam slowly became cocky it would be more believable, especially if he takes on his second trial and it humbles him. But here, as of now, his "I-suddenly-think-I-made-a-huge-mistake" seems just totally out of place and the writers just want drama where there isn't any.
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The killing of Zeus made perfect sense to me, as Artemis' arrows are said to be able to slay anyone, even immortals. Note the amount of lightning going off after being stabbed - it feels quite likely that he died in my book.

On the other hand, I would love the titans to be the big bass for a season, as many of them are various elements, with Cronus being time itself, which would be crazy hard to fight.

As for Sam, I'm sorta getting a "I was just putting on a brave face last time" feel. He knows things won't go well, or thinks it, but as usual doesn't want Dean to worry. I hate it when the brothers do that however...

I liked the episode enough, but I'm tired of them wasting Gods like this, as it cuts out potential real clashes and the like. Furthermore, I'm hoping the Cas story isn't going to turn out like how Eve did, and it just becomes irrelevant in the overall scheme, while the trials become the full story.

Lastly, watch them close hell, but Sam is trapped inside, forcing it to be re-opened. I know I'd be annoyed...
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Word. Having Sam back down from being confident about the trials was random and unnecessary. If anything, he'd have either kept his mouth shut about the blood or spilled about it and played it down. Having him revert to "Oh well, guess I'm gonna have to die some noble death to save everyone. Sorry, Dean" isn't fair to the characters Sam and Dean and it's really a let down for us in the audience too. :/
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I see what your saying but he said all that before he started coughing up blood so its understandable that he is freaked from that happening. I mean thats not even and injury sustained while attempting the trials its something unknown.. so yeah he's spooked.
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Was it just me that found it funny that a cop finds a guy with multiple injuries, blue, has a buzzard picking out his entrails and he checks for a pulse? sure it played out later when he got to say he checked for a pulse and the guy was dead, but still... that's as dead as they come... loved that cop too with his zombie enthusiasm...

I said it before and I'll say it again but the Batcave definitely needs a garage. ignoring the blatant door, it's not much of a secret lair when you have cars parked outside. Annnnd now I hear that theme.. Thanks MaryAnn.

Dean had me cracking up with his comments about smack talking a god...

Not missing Cas so much... (it's like they ditched that whole angelic spy storyline) But I AM missing Crowley... does that make me bad?
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NaNaNaNaNaNaNaNa, okay I'm not typing that all out. YOU'RE WELCOME :D

If missing Crowley makes you bad, then we can be bad fans together because I feel the same way. I'm excited for the rest of Castiel's storyline in this instance but in general, I get more excited when I see Crowley in the promos.
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I'm interested in the angel storyline too but not if they forget it then have to saturate future episodes with it to play catch up... Unless.... that brings in more Crowley! I always laugh when he calls Sam "Moose"
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That's actually protocol, no matter the shape the body is in the officer/EMT/firefighter first responding has to check for pulse and/or breath sounds....it's just a way of establishing legally that the officer confimed to the best of his knowledge that the victim was dead before doing anything else instead of trying to revive him/her.
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yep!
when cold/hypothermia it gets a tiny bit trickier to determine death.
Doctors have a phrase "you have to be warm and dead"... it doesn't always apply (like a frozen decapitated corpse) but for example when determining brain death which is the same as dead, you have to have the core temperature of greater then 90 degrees F (use a warming blanket to get the temp up)
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I just found it funny he checked for a pulse considering the whole "Buzzard pulling on his spilled entrails" part... didn't say no one would ever check for a pulse.
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You're absolutely right and in a perfect world inhabited by thinking men, no-one would. But enter lawyers. And thus it has been established that checking for a pulse or/and breath sound or movements is the official way to establish likeliness of death. Otherwise we would have hundreds of court hearings each year involving EMT:s or police officers answering questions like:
"Did you check for the victim's pulse?"
"No, because he was frozen solid and his liver was being eaten by an eagle"
"AHA! Negligence!"
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Sam knowing about Prometheus and Artemis past seemed like foreshadowing too me. I just assumed it had something to do with the trials and the blood.
Earlier in the episode Sam gave some info and Dean asked "How do you know that?". Sam made a face and it was quickly forgotten, but there seems to be the beginning of a theme. Sam knowing something without knowing how he knows it. Blood giving him psychic powers maybe.
It would go with the Men of Letters legacy of brains over brawn and be a changing from throwing demons into walls.
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In some versions of the Prometheus myth, Artemis and Apollo appeal to Zeus to let him free. That and Prometheus mentioning that she seemed upset when he didn't know her probably red flagged it for Sam. I don't think Sam's going psychic. I think he just pays attention.
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i think it was intuition... i mean i could tell Artemis and Prometheus had a past
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This is just a little something I'd like to say to Sam and Dean: don't let anyone into the batcave. Seriously, don't let anyone set a foot in there. Okay, fine, you can let some people in. Garth and Kevin are fine, they're cool dudes. And I suppose there are a few other allies out there that I'd be fine with. But Prometheus? Really? I mean, you don't know what he's done, and neither does he. Sure, you know that he stole fire from the gods and gave it to humans, but that's pretty much it. He's a trickster, something which you didn't mention. If he had regained his memory while inside the batcave he probably couldn't have resisted pulling all kinds of pranks on you. And if he was really feeling ironic, which tricksters are known to be, he would have burned the batcave down. I think as a general rule you should never let an amnesiac anywhere near something as precious as the batcave, especially not when you also invite along two people WHO COULD HAVE BEEN DEMONS. I guess I'll give this show the benefit of the doubt and assume that we didn't see the scenes where that woman and her son were demon/monster tested, but we didn't see those scenes. If anyone is going to enter that most precious of places, there should be a mandatory and rigorous screening process to go through first. It's the least you can do. Or rather, it is the very least you should be doing.
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The Men of Letters Lair (MLL) is supposedly warded against anything and everything according to creepy old guy who told Sam the coordinates. Obviously it isn't warded against titans but even thought Prometheus was a trickster, he was also the creator of men and the bringer of fire so he probably wouldn't have blown up the guys trying to help him with his death curse problem. Probably. But when Castiel is back, it'll be interesting to see if he can get in there. Obviously the MoL knew about angels and I'm pretty sure Henry's time travel spell was Enochian, so maybe the MoL also knew to ward against the angels as well.
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I realize that it's warded against anything trying to get in (which probably includes all manor of gods and even titans, since the brothers and Bobby were dealing with gods before they even knew that angels existed, and the Men of Letters would have know almost infinitely more than them), but once a creature has been invited inside I'm not really sure about how much protection those wards are going to offer. And while I agree that Prometheus probably wouldn't have harmed the Winchesters or the batcave, I still think that a certain amount of caution should be in order here. As a rule, people who have amnesia should never be trusted. Also, there has been often jarring departures from classic mythology that this show has employed when it comes to its characters and creatures. It's really hard to say just what Supernatural's version of Prometheus would really be like, since both those things you said about him are probably not entirely true.

While he is credited with creating humanity from clay, God is as well, and God just happens to be an albeit absent character on this show. And if the past treatment of gods on this show is anything to go by (Lucifer being able to fairly easily best all the gods in "Hammer of the Gods," for instance), at best Prometheus was ordered by God to create humanity, but most likely he didn't and God did. Also, Prometheus is one of several supernatural creatures that is credited with stealing fire and giving it to humans. These include Coyote, Raven, Crow, Beaver, Dog, Rabbit, and Hare. And while none of these beings have appeared yet on the show, I wouldn't be surprised if Coyote or Raven show up for at least an episode. However, according to the Book of Enoch, Azazel taught early mankind to use tools and fire, which honestly doesn't sound like the memorable demon on the show, but just goes to show how it's difficult to determine what parts of classic mythology can be attributed to the characters on Supernatural, and which aren't or shouldn't be.

Anyway, what I'm saying it that Sam and Dean shouldn't give anyone they don't know the location to the batcave, much less invite them in. Because just as Zeus, who happens to be the patron of hospitality and guests as well as the god of crops and harvest in Athens, turned out to be a petty dude with only torture and hatred on his mind, Prometheus could've turned out just as bad. And as I said before, the woman and her son could have been demons, though I'm still giving the Winchesters the benefit of the doubt that they tested them offscreeen. Regardless, I hope it doesn't become a trend that they bring just about anyone into the batcave. Nothing bad may have happened this time, but we all know the history this show has off destroying places and killing off people. Literally nothing has survived the entirety of this show other than the brothers and the impala, and all three of these things have died or been destroyed multiple times.
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I think this is Sam and Dean right now: "GUYS! GUYS CHECK OUT OUR AWESOME NEW CLUBHOUSE! GUYS ISN'T IT AWESOME?!? NOTHING BAD WILL EVER HAPPEN HERE EVER, RIGHT GUYS?!?"
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They're also saying: "Yeah this is our clubhouse. No bid deal or anythin'. Club house for what you ask? You didn't? Oh, well, I might as well tell you. It's just a club house for THE MEN OF LETTERS, WHO HAPPEN TO BE A SECRET SOCIETY THAT KNOWS EVERYTHING HUMANKIND KNOWS AND HAS EVER KNOWN EVER!. What's that, you think the name's a little sexist. Well, I guess that's true, but I will say that they had at least one female member and THEIR CLUBHOUSE ALSO INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IMPORTANT AND THIS THING IS SPELLED UP THE WAZOO TO GIVE US EVERYTHING WE NEED AND PROTECT US FROM EVERYTHING! SERIOUSLY, EVERYTHING! I DON'T THINK EVEN GOD COULD GET IN HERE IF HE WANTED TO! Oh, and if you'd like a tour we could start off in my bedroom. My bed is very comfy and I also have a very nice bathrobe. I could take it off if you'd like to look at it. You don't want me to take it off? Well I guess that's okay because WE'RE LEGACIES! SAY WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!!?!? Yeah, it's not big deal or nothin'.

I have to admit that that was mostly Dean talking there. Sam was too busy coughing up blood and not telling anyone because Wanst and all that.
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Haha, now I can't shake the idea that the Men of Letters cave is a cross between the Little Rascals' He Man Woman Haters Club and Animal House's Delta Tau Chi house. I love it.
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I wouldn't blame them for being so proud of the Batcave and showing it off but they seriously have to be smart in knowing who to trust with the knowledge of it.
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This is so true.
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Oh and also #SAVETHEBATCAVE! I hope that I'm not annoying anyone by typing this every week.
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7 Mary 4 was Jon Bakers call sign on CHiPs

Agents Bonham and Jones
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Woodchipper DOES beat everything :-)

I loved that bit a few seasons back... going on about this very specific ritual to kill a monster that Rufus messed up... and Bobby just throws it into a wood chipper.
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First of all, I did enjoy this episode for the most part, though it did have a number of issues. The biggest issue of all for me was the title: "Remember the Titans." Well, I happen to actually remember the titans, since I find ancient Greek mythology/religion fascinating. So at the very beginning of the episode, when the guy was lying on the side of the road with a bird eating him around his stomach area, my first though was that he was Prometheus. Prometheus, being one of the most famous characters in Greek myths ever. You need only to have heard even the most basic version of the famous myth, played God of War II, or even just watched the movie Prometheus (which isn't even about Prometheus but still gets his story across) to know that 1. Prometheus stole fire from the gods, and 2. as punishment for this he was tied to the top of a mountain and every day birds feasted on his innards.

Now, I don't actually read any blurbs or anything like that before watching anything on TV, since I prefer to be pleasantly surprised, or at least start off with the same level of foresight as the characters on screen. But I do happen to notice the titles when they appear on screen within an episode, so I think most people had pretty much figured out that Shane was actually Prometheus at least, and that's a big "at least," five minutes before Sam did. So for the first part of this episode I was a little frustrated that I knew 100% what was going on and the professional hunters/what's left of the men of letters had no clue. It may have been nice if the writers had thrown in a twist and had Shane not be Prometheus, but maybe another God who had been recently given a similar curse to the famous fire-bringer, then it would have been a rather surprising and shocking twist. But that didn't happen, and rather we got a lot of the expected tonight.

As I said though, for the most part I enjoyed this episode. This is mostly for three reasons: 1. it featured Greek gods (any non-Abrahamic Gods get me excited when they make an appearance), 2. Not all of these gods died, and 3. the batcave wasn't destroyed. It is a shame that Prometheus died, since he is technically a classic trickster, and could have brought to the show a lot of the fun that the Trickster/Loki/Gabriel died with. But since we still have Coyote, Raven, and several other tricksters that could pop up at any time, I'm not too worried about hat. Also, Artemis is still alive, and she is the goddess of Hunters, so hopefully she could return and be a frienemy of the Winchesters at some later point. And while both Prometheus and Zeus died, this episode demonstrated that the writers haven't forgotten that there are other religions and mythologies out there, and that hopefully we will be seeing more of these in the future. And of course I always fist-pump the air, and feel a lot of tension leave me, whenever an episode of Supernatural ends and the batcave isn't destroyed.

What with the possibility of the gates of Heaven and Hell closing, I think that living non-Abrahamic gods are more important than ever. By my reckoning, Kali and now Artemis are the only gods of import that have been featured on this show and are still alive, unless you count Osiris who will be out of commission for at least another thousand years. My personal hope for the end of the season is that the gates of both Heaven and Hell will close shut, only Castiel, Crowley, and a few other angels and demons will be left behind on Earth, which will leave an opening for the remaining gods and big bads/goods to try and fill that enormous vacuum of power. Hopefully Kali and Artemis will both be a part of this vision, or at least we'll see some new form of ruling pantheon which ends up being a mix of the remaining pantheons left alive.

Regardless, this episode did include a lot of the elements that I enjoy seeing in Supernatural. Actual gods, and not just relatively unknown and unimportant demons and monsters, always do a nice job of raising the stakes on this show, even if they do end up dying or being defeated in the end. And while I would have wished that Zeus hadn't been so one-sided and Hades-bent on destruction, pain, and torture, I thought the actor did a good job with his presence and overall character. And even though Zeus himself came across as fairly one dimensional, the god who actually survived (Artemis) was a nicely rounded, much more three dimensional character. And while this episode was just a case of the week, and had almost nothing to do with the trials, Castiel, or anything like that, there is something to be said for the fact that a "throwaway" episode of Supernatural actually introduced and killed of Zeus. F'n Zeus. This show really doesn't mess around...except when it does...which is all the time.

On a lesser note, my theory about the blood (and I've said this before) is that Sam is turning into a key of some sort. I don't think that this process is actually killing him, I just think that it's changing the physicality of who Sam is. Which means that at the end of this season he'll have to perform some sort of ritual (which hopefully doesn't involve rotating himself around 180 degrees) that will close off Hell forever. Now, this ritual could be a sacrifice where he'll have to die, but I don't think/I really hope that the show won't do that, since it would be more surprising anyway if Sam gets killed in a shocking, last minute way, and not due to the ominous consequences of completing the trials. Besides, at this point it doesn't mean much if either Sam or Dean dies, mostly for the viewers and partly for Sam and Dean. It's become business as usual that one of the brothers will die at the end of a season, and even they have realized it by now. The only thing that is confusing at this point is that Dean seems to think that its his turn to die, when he just got back from Purgatory and should know that its Sam's turn. Who knows, maybe this time he'll go to Heaven? Maybe next season he'll be brought back to Earth and he'll say "Oh come on, Dean. Give me five more minutes, then I'll be ready to save the world again."
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agree!
let's wrap up heaven and hell (leave Castiel, Crowley and a few others) and let's explore other cultures' gods. The show has explored some other cultures' gods but there are so many to choose from. Not only other cultures' gods but elaborate more on their mythos/world.

Loki died? I must of repressed that from my memory. I adored Loki (years ago I had a dog named Loki and one named Thora~~during my norse god phase...lol)
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Yeah, Loki did die way back in Season 5. He died in episode 19: "Hammer of the Gods." Loki (or Gabriel, if you like, I personally prefer to think of him as the trickster god and not as God's messenger) was killed by his Lucifer, who happens to be his brother. Yep, sad but true. I really do wish it wasn't so.

Nice names for your dogs by the way. I'm assuming that you meant Thor and not Thora, since there is no god, of any religion, by that name.
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Both lived to be around 11-13 years old (old for big dogs). Thora was a feminine version of Thor:-) We thought about naming her Freyja but couldn't pronounce it. Also Snotra (old norse goddess) sounded gross--I have a cat who should have that name but he's a male and Snotra was a female goddess. The Norse goddesses have difficult to pronounce names if you only speak English and Spanish. Thora (to my understanding, adding an "a" tends to feminize objects/pronouns...it seems that way in spanish) was a b/w husky (super intelligent daughter, I mean dog).

We have 2 other dogs now (bunny and bear...don't ask, lol). If we get another dog we will likely get a red and white Husky (or a husky rescue dog or husky mix) and name him Odin.

To my limited understanding, there are trickster gods in many religions and Loki was the Norse Trickster god. I think you referenced the Native American Trickster god--Coyote (I need to google it).

Yes, I repressed the death of Loki on Supernatural. I really liked that character/actor. He definitely pulled a "kenny" on dean:-)
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I can see how naming your dog Thora makes sense, especially if none of the goddess names worked for whatever reason. And yes, just about every religion has some sort of trickster-like god or deity. Coyote is indeed a Native American trickster god, appearing in the cultures of California, the Great Plains, and the Plateau, but he is not the only trickster god. Raven, who I referenced above, is a trickster god as well. And even if neither of these beings pop up on the show, there are several other tricksters to choose from. Hermes, even, is considered to be a trickster character, though he of course died on the show. But again, there are many other potentials. So hopefully Loki will not be the one and only trickster on this show.
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Another complaint I have about this episode (though it is pretty minor) is that there was no mention whatsoever of Hermes. They could have rubbed it in Zeus's face that his fellow god was a backstabbing bastard (actually he is technically a bastard, though honestly that's not actually a bad thing) who sold out his fellow gods to Lucifer. They could have asked him how many Greek/Roman gods are actually still left alive. Or they could have at least made a lame joke about shooting the messenger. But they didn't, and that's a loss of continuity that I wasn't happy about.
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In 'Hammer of the Gods' that was Mercury who called Lucifer. Roman equivalent, yes, but technically not the same guy. Mercury was inherited to the Romans through the Etruscans, not the Greeks, but they had a lot of the same stuff going on.
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You make a good point. Though it raises the question of whether the entire Roman pantheon of gods is actually running around in the Supernatural world (besides Mercury of course), or whether, like a lot of supernatural creatures that appear on this show, it turns out that the Greek gods and Roman equivalents are the same beings. If not, are we going to meet Jupiter, for instance, who like Zeus is a god of sky and thunder, and who happens to wield a thunderbolt? A god who the Romans considered equipment to Zeus, to the extent that they referred to Zeus as "luppiter?" Actually, if enough gods from both pantheons die, the remaining members could form together to create their own pantheon. That's a thought.
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I'm not sure why Hermes would come up at all, there are a huge amount of pagan gods, and maybe had Sam had the time he would have quizzed Zeus for info, but he had his hands full, if they had brought up a minor god at this critical point it would have been a Non sequitur
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Hermes may be a minor god, but he is a member of the same pantheon that Zeus and Artemis belong to. Hermes (like many of the Greek gods and god-like beings) happens to be the son of Zeus. So I think it would be perfectly natural for Hermes to be brought up in conversation. It would be like if you had met the Prince of Kruglasia (make up country, obviously) through some random event, and then later met the King of Kruglasia, it would be a little odd if nowhere in the conversation you mentioned "oh I've met you son, btw's" or something like that. It's not impossible that you wouldn't mention it, obviously, but it would be a missed opportunity. And since this show is written by professional writers, you wouldn't expect them to miss an opportunity like that.

This whole thing is made rather pointless, however, by the fact that the god in "Hammer of the Gods" was Mercury, and not Hermes. As rejoicify pointed out in the comment right above yours, they are equivalent yet different gods. So while this begs the question as to whether there are separate Greek and Roman pantheons in the Supernatural universe, and if so how similar in appearance and personality these gods actually are, I can see why the writers avoided such a potentially long and confusing tangent from the main plot of the episode. Still, it would be nice if at some point in the future they do clear up this business a bit.
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-Also, I think Sam is turning into a rugaru.
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If I remember correctly rugaru's were flesh eating monsters....Sam is nothing like that..0.0

He is is spitting out blood, so I'm thinking the trials have given him cancer or something to that extent
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Oh, I was just throwing the most absurd possibility out there, cuz I really have no idea...l
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-Someone fire that blurb writer, s/he ruined the one intriguing thing about this episode...

-Batcave Lol...I can totally see that!

-Did anyone else just find Zeus comical?? "I'm a bad guy, and I like to kill ppl, ahahhahah" I'm parphrasing, but weird thing is, not by much...
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I don't miss Cas as much as a lot of people, he was more of a crutch they kept leaning on. We meet the Winchesters before they met Cas, and they were gettting by, but since Cas, they have needed his help to take out the bad guys more than I like to see. As comic relief he is fine, but it is like the Justice League without Superman. They struggle to defeat the enemy, until he comes in to save the day, it becomes tiresome and you have to ask, why didn't he just take the guy down himself in the first place? Why is Castiel not taking these demons out himself? Regret, disdain for the idea of wasting his efforts on something so small, and now he is broken emotionally and physically power-wise.
Besides, the Batcave is warded from discovery by the Men of letters, the safest place in the world from supernatural discovery. So Cas shouldn't be able to find them either. Dean's prayers should be falling silently against the wards , not Castiel's ears. He would have to go outside the safe zone to pray.
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I want to make a point with the 'Cas comes down and saves everything' he hasn't been doing that, he's been compromised, as soon as he fell from Heaven the first time - when he takes the boys back in time, it wipes him out, when he went to fight the Whore of Babylon he got whammied, now he can't use his abilities because he's being controlled by Naomi.
But here is the problem you have a character brought in for only three episodes, who grows beyond his scope, and for his first oh, two seasons he had a direct and compelling reason to be involved with Sam and Dean, and incidentally becomes beloved by the audience (and show) who find every reason to bring him back. So it becomes an old refrain 'where is Cas?'
Hopefully, news that Castiel will be back on a regular basis in season nine means that they've found a way to make him important (and consistent) in his characterisation and the story, which should please everyone, I'm not sad to see his comedic role diminished (except in interactions with Dean) I love badass Cas.
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I agree he hasn't been doing it this year, but that is part of the problem for me, because he has done it so much in the past, that it seems the Winchesters are running around working to close the gates on their own but eventually they will run into a problem that only Cas can fix for them. and then Poof, he'll have enough angel juice to get it done, and if it seems he has to suffer a little then it is even better because it makes the angel seem more human.
I like the actor, and was hoping at this point the angel abandoned his human host, so the actor could stay on (especially after Bobby left) but having him in their back pocket to give answers or run errands of zap a big bad is just too much now. It's time for him to leave this earthly coil. Unless the angel tablet closes the gates to heaven at the same time they close the gates to hell at which point being taken away or killed would be as final for him as a demon after-the-close, so there might be some new twist to his presence.
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"... it is like the Justice League without Superman. They struggle to defeat the enemy, until he comes in to save the day, it becomes tiresome and you have to ask, why didn't he just take the guy down himself in the first place?"

This has ALWAYS been my problem with Cas. I love comedic Cas and I love Misha Collins in general, but this has always been the thing that keeps me from turning into a wholehearted Castiel fan. :/
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Interesting, I wonder if they put that much thought into it...
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Sam's got nothing on Dean... who thanks to Loki's "fun" died hundreds of times in various ways. Crushed by falling furniture, hit by a car, shot with an arrow, shot with a gun, killed by a dog, electrocuted, killed via spoiled Mexican food, choked on food, etc.

Though ignoring all of THAT, yeh they've died a lot. Which I thought was a fun joke when it was mentioned they had to be rescued in Heaven... a lot.
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loved jensen ackles facial expressions while sam was playing artemis
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Sorry, I'm not going to bring anything to the table smart review-wise, but let me just say thanks MaryAnn for mentioning the "batcave" and the 60's show...now I keep seeing scene switches including a "NANANANAAA" and a spinning Supernatural logo....damn you, damn you all to hell!
On a more serious note, I liked the shout-out to zombies via a State Trooper wearing a familiar uniform...just surprised he wasn't called Rick, since we already got a Shane :)
Oh and a bow-wielding heroine AND a kid called Ollie? It's like someone knows this show airs on the same night as Arrow :)
There, I'm done ranting. Thanks for bearing with me.
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I missed the Shane and Ollie reference:-( Great observation and Rick would of been a great name for the cop!

I love the shout out to TWD and to South Park's Kenny!!! KENNY
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For a goddess of hunting, Artemis sure doesn't know much about how to hold and shoot a bow... BTW, that thing lay around on the floor after Zeus and Prometheus were goners and it happens to be able to kill titans and Greek gods. Mighta been a good idea to bring it around to the Bat Cave lair situation thingy
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I don't think it's the bow that matters, but the hands of the person weilding it, unlike maybe, Thor's Hammer. But that's not to say Sam didn't grab these things up and they are in the batcave now.
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I was also thinking that! I could see a spell in the future requiring the use of or a piece of arrow
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This was hilarious yes. I am still laughing LOUD for Dean's innocent "You" to Sam. And I don't know how many times I remembered those lines and laugh on it almost tearing my eyes. It was something good about that. Have you/anyone noticed how nicely the vampire hunter kit Dean put in his room over the bed? Moving on...

I was hoping the gods will makeup like a happy family and let the little demi-god have time of his life but man! That was one messed up family up there, no wonder they are not in-charge anymore. By the way, the cast for the gods was really nice, very good personalities.

Now the theories part, 1. I feel that bleeding could be a test, fearless and strong is not always about fighting monsters, sometimes it is all about will to fight the inner-fight.

2. Let's suppose they close the gates of hell this season, rumors are saying Cas will be a regular cast for next season, this (could) mean that after hell is no more to get into, monsters and evil will start either drifting on earth or start piling in heaven. Which might start a larger war, a larger mess either on earth or in heavens.

Is this when Cas and his special lady boss come down full power?
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If there is a demon tablet, and a leviathan tablet, you can guess there might be an angel tablet, which could be used against angels, so if they discover that Naomi (or the force behind her) is controlling Cas, Sam and Dean might want to use the tablet to save Castiel and close the gates of heaven - Carver did mention early in season that now it was going to be Sam and Dean who save Cas.
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I figured out the Angel tablet the instant Kevin mentioned there was one more to Crowley. It just makes sense... God probably thought that if the humans made it past the apocalypse that Angels would be considered a big bad / enemy for them. So: the big enemies were Demons, Angels, and Leviathans. Either because he foresaw a possibility of this future the brothers are living or just assumed those were the 3 things they really couldn't handle of their own.
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Well... monsters don't go to Hell, they go to Purgatory as revealed 1-2 seasons ago. So assuming the Hell tablet's spell doesn't ALSO close Purgatory then we won't have to worry about Vamps and such going to heaven or lingering on Earth.

And if all demons are sent there as part of the spell (which I thought Kevin said) then no more demons.

And, as I GUESS an added bonus??? All humans go to heaven? Which, I guess is kind of cool unless the Angels decide to be d**ks about it.
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By the way Dean died more times than Sam - repeatedly.
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These "Case-Of-The-Week" episodes are really starting to irritate me. Yes, they are entertaining....but could we PLEASE return to the A (or even the freakin' B?!) story line?!?!?! There are 3 trials.....THREE. We have seen ONE so far. I would be totally okay with a trial taking several episodes to complete. But at this point, Trial #2 had better be something like, "Combine equal parts blood of a sympathetic vampire, hair of a Jewish Golem, and tears of a Greek child god. Blend using the magic of a sexually ambiguous fairy. Consume."
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You can't have all mythology all the time. You need time to set up character development, and to give both the fans and the actors a break from all angst, all the time. I will say, though, that they have set up *A LOT* of mythology this season. A LOT. We've got the demon tablet, which is still in pieces so we know that's going to hinder the trials process (along with Kevin probably ODing thanks to the pills Dean gave him), the angel tablet is coming up with Heaven, Hell, and Meg trying to get at it. We've got whatever the hell is going on with Castiel and Naomi which they have yet to even clue the boys in on, which I'm sure will be happening soon. There's just a lot going on right now so yeah MOTW episodes might be frustrating (especially when they're like last week's) but they're also necessary and sometimes just a good time.
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You could try binge watching them:-)
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Yes! Lol. I understand the need to space the COTW episodes throughout the season, but it DOES get frustrating at this point in the season because they just feel like filler, even if they're well done. I just have far more patience for them in the beginning of the season.
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I was yelling at Moose and Squirrel for different reasons...like: "WHY ARE YOU BRINGING PROMETHEUS TO BATCAVE,WHEN ZEUS,GOD WHO HATES HUMANS,WANTS TO KILL HIM!?!?!?!?" If Zeus enjoys in killing Prometheus after so long and hates humans,why would he then let them keep batcave!?!?!? He wants to rule humankind and those 2 idjits bring them to batcave.

That "THEN" thing got me though...I was thinking something will happen with 2nd trial and wasn't even thinking about Shane being Prometheus.

I loved Zeus and this episode was great.I posted my theory on blood thing in last week's review. Here's again,if anyone is interested and doesn't want to search for it:D


"Oh my god...I was thinking today about Supernatural and it hit me out of nowhere. If someone already posted this question,tell me,so I will go and read it(don't really wanna read all comments for "nothing" :D).

Do you see irony with, which Supernatural has hit us?? Hint Sam...like SAAAM :D




Sam has DEMON BLOOD in him(I think he still has it in him) and he is doing these trials. Is Sam human? I remember at one point he drank so much demon blood,he got black eyes. Is that the reason he is coughing up blood? If he does these trials and completes them,will he go to hell...forever!?!?!?!? :D And if I figured this out,when will WInchesters figure it out?!?! "
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Sam is a witch/warlock--practitioner of magic (so is Dean). The do spells and make magical objects and so many more non-human activities. Maybe he is coughing up and out the demon blood--idk
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Dude, I've seen the demon blood theory floating around! That would be cool. :D
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Technically, according to the mythology, Zeus doesn't hate humans. He just didn't believe us to be ready for ffire at the time and simply punished Prometheus for going against him.
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True,but here they made it like,he hates them,because,when Promehteus gave them fire,that also led to their downfall on their rule of humans. Seemed to me Zeus was pissed and I assumed he hated them/us :D
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You're right...the show really took some liberties with the mythology this time. Another issue was the Prometheus/Artemis love story....I was all like "WHAAAT?! That never happened!" It's a pity, really that the show doesn't make better use of stuff related to the Greek mythology cause there' s a season's worth of story-telling there :)
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Yeah Lucifer DESTROYED those other gods...
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I agree 100% Greek mythology would be awsome to explore. Or Norse for that matter...they killed Odin and Thor so fast and that was really waste of perfect characters.
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