The Best TV Pilot of the Last 15 Years, the Championship Round: Lost or Breaking Bad?

This is it, everybody. We've reached the final round of our Best TV Pilot of the Last 15 Years competition. It's been quite a ride over the last few weeks—surprising upsets, straight-up routs, and a whole lot of debate in the comments about what should or shouldn't've happened along the way. As these things tend to go, the voting in the semifinals wasn't especially close. We technically had one upset, but at this point there's no reason to pretend that Breaking Bad is anything close to a Cinderella. But this championship? It's a doozy. This could be the closest vote yet, and one that really gets to the core of the competition. Take one final look at the bracket and ask yourself this question: Which show had the better pilot (and pilot alone)—Lost or Breaking Bad?


One final time, I'll provide a few some thoughts about why you might want to pick one pilot over the other. But at this point, you're probably made up your mind. You have one more round and one more week to have an impact. This is for all the marbles... or something. 


FINAL 

Lost (defeated How I Met Your Mother in the Semis) vs. Breaking Bad (toppled Pushing Daisies in the Semis)


WHY LOST SHOULD WIN: In the first three rounds, Lost garnered more than 18,400 votes. The shows it went up against only tallied about 6,500 votes. It won by the largest margin in Round 1, Round 2, and Round 3. It hasn't faced a true competition yet, and there's really no reason for it to start now. If we nixed the "last 15 years" thing and made this about the best TV pilot EVER, Lost would probably still strut right into the finals, and deservedly so. 

Seriously, think about it: What TV pilots can really match Lost in quality, and even in influence? From top to bottom, writing, directing, set design, acting, editing, music, whatever or whomever involved with this pilot that you want to acknowledge, this is simply a masterclass in television pilotdom. You shouldn't be thinking about how the series concluded, or even how it allegedly went off the rails in Season 2. You should be thinking about those opening 80-ish minutes that immediately transported you to a world that was a lot like our own, but very different in important, fascinating ways. Don't be silly, don't think about Sunday's amazing episode of Breaking Bad. We're to name the best pilot of the last 15 years, and Lost's is it.

WHY BREAKING BAD SHOULD WIN: Sure, Lost steamrolled a bunch of other shows on its way to the championship, but look at those shows again. AliasThe Walking DeadHow I Met Your Mother? Please. Breaking Bad slayed the big dragons in this competition, besting The SopranosThe Shield, and Pushing Daisies. It might have won with closer calls (about 17,600 votes for and 11,200 against), but the three shows defeated by BrBa are qualitatively better than the three Lost toppled; taking down Lost is just another, final step in that arc. Beyond that, Breaking Bad's pilot featured tremendous production and acting in its own right. Vince Gilligan's direction used the New Mexico desert as well or better than J.J. Abrams employed the beaches of Hawaii, and Bryan Cranston's performance was substantially better than that of any individual performer on Lost. In the wrong hands, this show could have been another Weeds, but with the dad from Malcolm in the Middle. Gilligan's were not the wrong hands, and Breaking Bad is sure as heck not Weeds


THE BATTLE FOR THIRD

How I Met Your Mother (defeated by Lost in the Semis) vs. Pushing Daisies (defeated by Breaking Bad in the Semis)


Hey, you guys requested this. Not everybody here is a winner, but we can at least vote on who deserves to finish in third place. In my mind, it's no competition. Pushing Daisies' opening episode was much better than the debut installment of How I Met Your Mother. But maybe you think a comedy should earn that third slot, or maybe you just really, really hate whimsy. I dunno. But vote on this one as well.


Alright, party people. Take this week and vote your hearts out. Let's crown a champion (and a third place finisher)!

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Lost vs BrBa? Damn tough one! Not to choose the best "pilot" though, it's definitely LOST for the pilot! Lost for many thingsup until the last two seasons where we all got somehow frustrated with it all.. I'm not gonna get into a detailed description here, Lost was great and awsome. Totally changed my expectations for TV.. but towards the end it was just pushing too far to say the least. BrBa on the other hand is just so so so well written and directed and kept to a fine-line that it can be referred as way more focused and totally moving. Well I'd say BrBa offers even better acting then Lost but yeah Lost had so many hints and references during the show that so many shows lack even today. For instance remember Heisenberg and Jesse sitting down on a sofa to watch some tv right after a cook? Lost had that feeling in almost every episode..
Well two of my favourite TV shows ever.. Both are amazingly written, directed and acted. Yet I'd say Lost for the Pilot for sure!
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Any of you Lost haters, Claiming the show "Sucked" because "They were dead all along or "They left too many unanswered questions", Dear god people, How many times do you have to be embarrassed? THEY WERE NOT DEAD THE WHOLE TIME, and THEY ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION THEY ASKED, Its a myth that they didn't, created way before the finale even aired, created by people who couldn't click their brains into gear, and what do people do with things they don't understand? Yes, They hate on them.

LOST FTW!
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now lets do that again but with a series finale. Just wait for Breaking Bad to end first though. I think the votes would be Breaking Bad 10938 and Lost the five votes that were accidentaly cast...

P.S. I like HIMYM but the pilot was definitely not as good as Pushing Daisies!
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The Lost series finale was EPIC, Only those that didnt understand it complain, Yes Breaking bad is awesome, But for me and millions of others Lost is untouchable.
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Well said brother, Its INCREDIBLE how so many people did not GET the Lost finale, How they can say "They were dead all along" or "They didnmt answer questions" is itself a mystery.
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So what most of you are saying is either a) you get it and you like it or b) you are stupid and you don't. I must say I admire this logic Its INCREDIBLE how so many people become fanatics and are blinded by their passion and cannot comprehend that one might just have an other opinion.
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Opinions are awesome, Unless they are based on fallacies, Such as "They were dead all along" or "They didn't answer questions".

You dont have to like Lost or its ending, But before people bash it they should at least have an argument that is based on facts, Don't you think??
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Breaking Bad is a great show, but most of the people are talking about it today. Lost (the pilot in this context) was far better than BrBa's, in fact the first 2 seasons were just okay, it gradually picked on.
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I like HIMYM alright, but it is not that far from run-of-the-mill. Nothing about the pilot screamed, said, or whispered 'best of' anything to me. Pushing Daisies was exactly perpendicular to run of the mill, and that show, while certainly not for those who can't stand twee, definitely screamed 'different' and 'entertaining' to me from the pilot on. It saddens me to see an excellent show get stomped by something much more mainstream that didn't have that memorable of a pilot. Notice they didn't even bother to make the paragraph preceding the vote the least bit unbiased. There was not point because there should be no question.

The Lost v. Breaking Bad pilot debate matters less to me than the 3rd/4th one, I'm not die-hard for either of the top two. Coming from that perspective, and based on the pilots alone, Lost is a clear winner. It was more intriguing, more inventive, etc. Breaking Bad has always had quality and the acting gods (Cranston, Paul FTW) on its side, and while those can be huge factors in how good of a show it is, that isn't a thing that really makes a pilot. A pilot's job is to pull you in. Lost may have lost me - though I came back eventually - but the pilot definitely grabbed me at the start.

FWIW these would been my picks:
Lost - if pilot hadn't been excellent, wouldn't have stuck with it half as long
Dexter - really good pilot, first season. Sad about recent bits though
Pushing Daisies - my type of show, my type of pilot
The Americans - best pilot I've seen in years
And Sherlock get a special mention, because though I feel it has an unfair advantage with its long running time, it had an excellent first episode.
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I seriously don't understand how people can say "BB is by far a better show than Lost" absolute dribble, BB is awesome, But Lost transcended what we saw on screen, It wasn't just about the visual, It was about the cerebral, THIS is why many were disappointed in the end, Because it asked us viewers to use our brains, and sadly many people don't have one.
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It's really really funny how some people say any whole series is a disgrace but they actually watched it all? haha. I'm what I guess would be called a silent majority I feel but maybe silent minority that loved the very finale of LOST. And I truly never had anyone explain to me what they exactly wanted as an ending. To me, it was pretty much figured out but I didn't get the nuclear explosion thing at end of 5 into 6 and how that truly worked.
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Yeah, people complain saying this and that, but then havent got any idea how THEY would have ended it, The truth is the creators had an idea of how to end it from the start, the ending was foreshadowed n the very first episode, Obviously lots of the journey along the way wasnt all planned, but the destination was.

The "nuclear explosion thing" was kinda confusing at times, But heres what happened....

1977 - The incident occurred with Dharma drilling into a pocket of EM energy, Jack and co had a shoot out with DI members, and Jack dropped the bomb, which didn't detonate, Juliet fell in the hole, and hit the bomb, on the 8th hit the bomb seemed to detonate and the season ended. The bomb however didn't actually detonate, All that happened was the 14th and final time-flash, sending Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Miles, Sayid, Juliet etc back to their own time(2007), The evidence which proves the bomb didn't detonate was that the Island still existed in 2007, There was no nuclear damage/radiation etc.

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wow this is not a hard choice at all.. But still 2 very awesome shows. But i would choose lost over breaking bad in any scene, episode and character. Best TV show ever.
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Absolutely agreed. I think Breaking Bad is brilliant, The best show currently on TV, But Lost was a once in a life time TV extravaganza, No TV show before or since has made people think so much about so many things, Lost is by far the best TV series ever created.
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You're rockin' it for sure. :D Would be in the trenches fighting for the exact same thing. Never saw anything like it.
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true that..
ATM I'm watching Ray Donovan, Breaking Bad, Homeland and Dexter (last episode)
Ray Donovan is absolutely GREAT and Homeland s1 and s2 were awesome as well! But No, Never is there going to be a series that got me hooked as LOST. I watch it every year when its my b-day :)
Another great tv show is 9 feet under. I reccomend that to everyone!
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I still find it amazing many people were disappointed with the LOST finale, It was EPIC, Everything a TV finale should be, I guess its because most of the disappointed didn't get it, wrongly thinking they were "Dead the whole time", And if they STILL believe the "Unanswered questions" myth? Then theres no hope for those people.
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I agree with you - the Lost finale was awesome on so many levels. I put the "haters" in 3 groups. Those that didn't like Lost's finale:
1) Because they didn't understand it
2) Because not every single mystery was fully explained to them
3) Because they didn't like the whole religious angle (which btw was very similar to BSG's finale, yet nobody complained about that too much if I remember correctly)

I can almost understand the 3rd group (though I don't agree with them) ... but, honestly I don't even take the people in the first 2 groups into consideration anymore (when talking about tv, of course - I'm sure they are all very nice ppl :P)
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I thought the Lost ending was fucking brilliant. I loved the ending. Yeah not everything is explained, but that's not a bad thing, the show was never about that.
I actually find it ridiculous that people don't understand the ending. i didnt find it at all confusing.
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I wish people would stop saying that anyone that didn't like the Lost finale didn't understand it. I know they were not dead the whole time but there were far to many things not explained or that didn't add up.
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I'm not saying that EVERYONE that didn't like the finale didn't get it, But its a FACT that most of those that were dissatisfied didn't understand it.

You say "there were far to many things not explained or that didn't add up", My question to you is like what? I have discussed with people about this virtually everyday for 3 years, and not one single person has been able to come up with a legitimate question (That mattered) that isn't answerable.
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Wow, how many times have you watched Lost to work all that out?

Part of the problem I had was that they kept introducing new elements (Charlie's premonitions, Desmond, Whitmore etc) before even attempting to explain anything we'd already seen and often we just had to accept that it was 'magic', the 'healing pool' in the temple being a perfect example. It often came across as if they were adding things in just to extend the life of the show as they the writers weren't sure of exactly how many seasons they were going to be making.

That being said your explanations make sense for the most part, although I'm still not sure why the atomic bomb going off would create the 'purgatory' universe. I'll have to message you again when I have a chance to think of other elements I didn't think were explained.
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I've only really ever watched it through once, But re-watched many episodes multiple times.

The healing pool was part sci fi and part sci fact, EM energy does have healing properties, and the water in the temple pool comes from the source, and the water contains this energy.

The bomb never actually detonated, All that happened at that moment was the final time-flash sending Jack, Kate, Hurley etc back to their correct time(2007), The Incident has nothing whatsoever to do with the "purgatory universe", The "purgatory universe" was something they experienced AFTER they had ALL died, Ie Jack dies in the bamboo forest and Bam he's in a limbo/timeless state waiting to reconnect with the people that matter most to him, Many years later(In the real world) Kate dies and Bam, She's in this limbo/timeless state, and so on, The creators showed us the two stories simultaneously to both to trick us the viewers into thinking it was a physical alternate reality, and to emphasise its connection to the Island, Because without the Island no one can "Move on" as the light on the Island is (Among other things) the entrance to the "Purgatory universe" and beyond, Thats why the Island is SO important.
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The whole meaning of the show was to NOT explain everything. So you could dazzle over it yourself. You obviously not a lost fan.
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I'm not one of those that completely disliked the ending and generally thought it was OK, although I wasn't a fan of the whole religious angle which wasn't really set up in earlier seasons. What I am saying is that I can understand why someone would dislike it, for reasons other than not understanding it.

I'd be happy with some things being left unexplained if I felt as though the writers actually knew what was going on. Its been a while since I've watched it but off the top of my head the questions that were never explained included:
1) Why were the others so determined to get hold of Walt and what was going on with those weird powers he seemed to have?
2) Why did the numbers cause bad luck to everyone and why could they be used to stop whatever was going to happen in the hatch (for that matter what was the deal with the clock displaying Egyptian hieroglyphics?).
3) Why did Kate keep seeing that horse?
4) What the hell was going in with Jacob's cabin?
(I could find plenty of others to add to this list)

As the show went on weird things kept being added to fill in episodes and in the end the finale was a casualty of that. It in no way ruined the show but it stops it from being amongst my very favourites.
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Continued.....

I forgot to mention the hatch.

The hatch computer was connected to a system that released a small amount of electromagnetic energy every 108 minutes, The numbers were pushed in order for this to happen, The glyphs appeared as a final warning to the hatch inhabitants, The glyphs translated to "Underworld Afterlife", Yet another clue as to what would happen if the Island was destroyed. The thing is the hatch computer was only implemented because of the "Incident" of 1977 where there was a tear created in a pocket of electromagnetic energy, This tear was sealed but small amounts had to be released safely.
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"I wasn't a fan of the whole religious angle which wasn't really set up in earlier seasons"

First off, the ending (As with the rest of the show) was spiritual, not religious(Theres a difference), Second, There was lots of religious allegory and allusion from the get go, I suggest you do a re-watch.

"1) Why were the others so determined to get hold of Walt and what was going on with those weird powers he seemed to have?"

The others wanted Walt for a number of reasons, First - Because they couldn't have their own kids, So in order to repopulate their group they kidnapped kids and used room 23 to "brainwash" them. Second - Because he had Psionic abilities, which fascinated them, These abilities were connected to the Islands energy source, This is why Dharma studied them too.

"2) Why did the numbers cause bad luck to everyone and why could they be used to stop whatever was going to happen in the hatch (for that matter what was the deal with the clock displaying Egyptian hieroglyphics?)."

They weren't really bad luck to everyone, Not really even to Hurley, However the numbers were connected to the Island and its inhabitants by fate/destiny(Much like astrology or numerology), They saw them everywhere because they often caused events to happen that lead people to the Island.

"3) Why did Kate keep seeing that horse?"

Kate saw the horse on the Island once, As we saw there were various animals on the Island, Including cows, cats, polar bears, as well as the usual jungle creatures. The horse simply belonged to one of the others, There was a possibility it was the smoke monster, but that was denied by the creators, The horse was similar to a horse Kate saw in her past.

"4) What the hell was going in with Jacob's cabin?"

Horace, from the DI built the cabin shortly before the purge, Soon after Richard used it to communicate with Jacob, To prevent the MIB/Smokey being able to enter the cabin the placed the protective ash around it, However someone broke the circle allowing MIB entry. When Ben tried to trick Locke into thinking he saw Jacob, It was infact the MIB who said "Help me" to Locke, He did this in the hope of making Ben jealous...It worked. Later when Hurley saw the Cabin, He saw 2 figures inside, one was Jacob the other was the MIB. The cabin moved locations because both Jacob and the MIB had the ability to distort time and space.

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LOST is the clear choice for me. The production values(writing, acting, directing, cinematography, musical score ) on that pilot were outstanding. And when you consider that pilot aired way back in 2004 it's all the more impressive. Regardless of how the show ended up, that was one amazing pilot.
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"Regardless of how the show ended up" You mean BRILLIANTLY.
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Actually, I didn't loathe the finale like most people seem to. I thought the Jacob/Man in Black arc could have been handled a bit better, but for the most part I was satisfied with the outcome for the core group. Everybody complains about the Purgatory thing but I see it just as a footnote to the story. The island was still real.
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You may be surprised that most people were infact satisfied with the way Lost ended, As proven by the polls taken over the years, The disappointed however are more vocal.
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I loved the enindg, i thought it was amazing.
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loved every second of it.
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I loved the Lost pilot, but I think BB's was more together, more efficient in establishing important elements and laying a path for the future. Lost was great and definitely left me wanting more, but it also seemed a bit too much, a million unanswerable questions and mysteries from the get-go.
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thats what you mostly get with SCI-FI
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I only caught this at sweet 16 so if there was more I could have missed it but one other show which is on the great pilot list for me at least would be Prison Break. That had plenty of intense scenes and drew you in immediately.
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Breaking Bad Is THE BADDEST BY FAR AND WIDE!!! SAY MY NAME!!! Dam Straight !! Hey RESPECT THE CHEMISTRY !!!! BITCHES!!!!!!
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Pushing Daisies was just too whimsical for my taste. I'd rather have laughs than quirkiness.
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Still can't believe Game Of Thrones was never even up for discussion.
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I don't think I'll ever be more intrigued by a pilot than after Lost
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So, I love HIMYM, *love* as in counting the days to the season premiere, but honestly I am starting to think many people have simply never watched PD's pilot. To them I want to say: "go ahead, you will most certainly love it."
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Since this is a vote about best PILOT I have to vote LOST. Show really hooked me in, great ride for 3 years then the wheels started coming off and if finished up pretty meekly. If this vote had been about BEST SERIES from stem to stern, Breaking Bad would blow LOST and just about any other show out of the water
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No competition for first place - BB shouldn't even be in the top 4 pilots.
Tough match-up for 3rd and 4th place - I'm going with PD for sentimental reasons :)
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What pilots would you say are the best? from thid list. id say my top 5 is

1. Lost
2. Breaking Bad
3. The Shield
4. 24
5. Walking Dead
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I think Prison break should be a top 5 anyone who's never seen it should.
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Ive seen that. It was really good. That show has an amazing first season. im actually on the 2nd season right now
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Prison Break definitely, Dexter's pilot was also great, BSG's pilot including or excluding the mini-series, Alias, Heroes also had a very good pilot (and first season, except for the last episode) ...
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Prison Break had a very good pilot and excellent first season, shame about the following seasons!
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couldn't care less for Lost of BB, but choosing between HIMYM and Pushing Daisies is tough as both shows are great and I really love 'em. Eh, what a heck I'll go for HIMYM 'cause its oilot was great and I'm real excited about finally getting introduced to the Mom ;)
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You do have to wonder about a poll that's Lost v Anything that defaults to being part of the Lost community section
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Correct but they are posting on the main page as well so people don't just find it if they come here. Besides That is arguably the best pilot i can think of.
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OK, Lost is going to win, but what about a different poll?

Poll

Choose wisely.

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I don't even have to watch much of that and I can give you an answer to it all. There is no answer because none of it really happened. THEY WERE ALL DEAD in the 2 hour pilot episode. The entire show was a mind F@^%. Maybe it was their intention to end it that way or maybe not. Only the writers and creator know that. Either way that's how it was and that's how it will be. So if you want to answer questions about the show go watch the finale again.
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Saying Lost wasn't for everyone is obvious, since no show is for everyone. But consider how popular Lost was, I'd say it was a show for most people, and in the end most people felt cheated by a show that didn't deliver what it promised.

The show went all over the place with the mythology and created so many plot holes that it would be impossible for any finale to piece together. I admit that it was much more about the characters than answers, and for the characters I loved the show.

But I'm completely baffled by the fact some people still defend the writers' work without seeing the plot as a convoluted thing that kept several loose ends and that the writers, as they were making thing up as they went along, had put themselves in a dead end. Even the showrunners, in the end, joked with their own improvisation talents as they made this hilarious video which, yeah, yeah, definitely "proves" that it was all part of a big plan... And who would've guessed the Smoke Monster's name was Barry?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg1qikMstEA
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"in the end most people felt cheated"

You may find that the majority in fact were satisfied with LOst's ending, A vocal minority(Most of which didn't get it) cried like whiny bitches.

"by a show that didn't deliver what it promised."

For a start they never "Promised" anything, And it delivered everything I and most wanted.

"created so many plot holes"

Name them, Youre so sure of your position? Name these so called "Plot holes", I have argued ith literally thousands of your type, and NOT ONE person has come up with a single legitimate unanswered question or p;lot hole.

" they were making thing up as they went along"

Then explain how the whole final season mythology was foreshadowed in the pilot episode.

The video by the way, was a joke....Another thing you probably didn't "Get"?
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Yeah a lot of people somehow misunderstood the ending, And it really is a myth that Lost left loads of unanswered questions, They answered virtually everything, Its just that they trusted their viewers to be smarter than some were.

Lost isn't for everyone, I accept that, No show is liked by everyone, I know some people who think Breaking Bad, The Wire, The Sopranos etc are complete rubbish, People are different and some shows just relate to different people.
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The show didn't bother me. it just seemed to go off course to me from where it started which is why i finally stoped watching it in the middle of the 3rd season. I don't know maybe I just didn't follow it through is why it seemed odd. I don't mind figuring things out but it just seemed too jumbled in the 3rd season totally negating some things that happened and changing facts you already saw. If you are telling me there is actually a rhyme and reason for it I'll have to go finish it but that was why i stoped and then someone said they all died at the start which was why the show was weird and it made sense really so i never went back.
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HAHA, You didn't even finish the show and have the audacity to claim you know how it ended? LOL... They were NOT dead from the beginning, How anyone could think they were is ridiculous.

Lost wasn't for you, That's fine, You need a certain amount of IQ to fully enjoy Lost, This is why some jumped ship, when they realized it was too complex for them.
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I was misinformed then. I only watched midway season 3 tell it was too weird for me. I will have to watch the rest but them being dead at the start does answer pretty much all the unanswered questions people ask. Smoke monster etc
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First off, They answered every question they asked, Secondly, THEY WERE NOT DEAD ALL ALONG, How many times do people have to be told or shown?
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Breaking Bad hasn't finished yet!
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You can't put that vote up BB hasn't ended yet.
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Do you really need to see it to decide? Anyway, you can wait 8 days and cast your vote then.
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Please tell me you are joking, Fringe ending was just awful, None of it was in line with the rest of the story, None of it made any logical sense, And George RR Martin WRONGLY thought they were dead all along, THAT is why HE was disappointed in the ending, He didnt "Get It" FACT.
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Then wait 9 day and cast your vote. Meanwhile you can have a pretty good idea judging by the great of Breaking Bad's episodes so far, can't you? Besides, we all know how disappointing on so many levels the ending of Lost was...
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Only those that didnt understand Lost complain, If you still believe the "Unanswered questions myth", Well, All I can say is you've had long enough, The answers are and always were there.
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Yeah, yeah, the unanswered questions are a "myth." Listen, I loved the show just like the next guy, but that doesn't make me blind to the fact the writers simply ignored most of the story lines and basically just solved the last season. Want unanswered questions? Here's a video with about a thousand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xYp0J5aT_M
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Well .. that statement came back to bite you in the ass! :P
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I think you should watch the show again ... you will find that most of your "unanswered questions", actually were answered. They just weren't spoon-fed to us. But, anyway .. let's agree to disagree on this one.
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I don't see how. It just shows some people are so blind they can't see the obvious problems of Lost. I loved the show, but I'm one of the several fans disappointed by all the unanswered questions and excessive and inconsistent mysticism of the ending.
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I don't watch BB, subject never interested me but still kinda odd to bring up a vote for soemthing that hasn't ended yet. I do see your point. I never could finish lost. About half way though the 3rd season is all i could muster. Just got too freaking weird and no rhyme or reason to it anymore especially season 3. I do know how it ended and I'm glad i did not try to finish it.
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Oh, I understand what you mean then. You have a valid point. But my poll was also a good-humored provocation because the ending of Lost was so notoriously disappointing. But, again, in 9 days BB ends.
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Lot of delusional LOST fans, I guess you could say BrBa hasn't actually ended yet...otherwise come on, really? Lost finished up better? My ass
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So is your ass lost or is it breaking bad? I'm confused.
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Oh, you losties crack me up! I gotta give in to your slightly fanatic dedication.
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lol .. you know what's funny? The show has been finished for 7 years and ppl are still talking about it. I doubt ppl will talk about BB 7 years from now ... in fact, I'm pretty sure Lost will be entering its 14th year of argumentation :D
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The show was very good, and, most importantly, very popular, so people still talk about it. But the ending was bad and disappointing. I guess that's also reason to keep talking about it.
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The video is real, just like so many others. If you can't see the truth, I won't be the one shattering your bubble. Lost's flaws were quite notorious, and I can't believe people would dispute the obvious. How can I be a Lost basher? I admit I loved most of it, just think the pilot was an Ok survival story and the ding was disappointing. But hey I'm a basher because I don't think it was PERFECT? Sorry to disappoint you, it wasn't. I agree with George RR Martin when he said would not screw things up and "pull a Lost." And Fringe had a much better structured story and by far a much more satisfying ending.
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HAHA, Dude that video you posted is bogus and proven stupidity, EVERY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED, I challenge you to ask me a question I cannot answer, You Lost bashers make me laugh.
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Of course you have the right to your opinion, and if you find the ending appropriate, even with the tons of unanswered questions and so many dangling mysteries the writers were making up as they went along, that's fine for you. But don't call me a minority. This was all over the media in 2010, the talk of the web. The Lost showrunners even made a prank video in which Jacob and "Barry" the smoke monster discussed convoluted issues from the last seasons early on in the show. So, I'd say I agree with George RR martin when he says he hopes he won't "pull a lost" when it comes to give Game of Thrones an appropriate closing.
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I think you will find yourself in the minority, if you think the ending was bad and disappointing. I thought the ending was great, and .. no, im not a blind sheep lostie. I just don't agree with your opinion of the ending. Also, even though im a huge BB fan, I don't think the show comes even close to the levels of entertainment Lost was able to provide.
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I can't believe Pushing Daisies may lose third place to the mother show!
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himym's pilot winning? i love the show as much as the next person, but the first episode wasn't anything to write home about...

i think there should have been a 'best tv show of the last 15 years' competition going on at the same time.. maybe that way people will be able to separate their favorite tv show from what makes a good pilot. himym would win over pd, breaking bad over lost, etc.
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Breaking Bad over Lost? .... ehmm, No.
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WHERE IS/WAS SONS OF ANARCHY? that was an AWSOME pilot and its a killer show. did it even get a mention?

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why so many Z's?
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Dexter had a better pilot than breaking bad, but I agree lost is the best pilot of all time
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Both these shows are at the top of my all time favourite shows. One ended horribly and one is ending pretty much as awesome as you can get but Lost definitely had the best pilot.
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I say Breaking Bad is the better show, but Lost had the better pilot.
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I loved LOST - I mean Loved it - all 6 seasons and even enjoyed the finale! One of the best shows of all time. Then again - so is Breaking Bad. However the pilot of LOST did very little for me - where as the pilot of Breaking Bad drew me in immediately. Out of respect for both shows, I can not bring myself to vote in this poll - they are both too awesome. Looks like LOST will probably win but both were excellent.
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I think the exact opposite. BrBa pilot was good enough to get me back for further episodes but LOST really hooked me. Also the quality of LOST dipped after the writers strike and the truncated 4th season. I know those guys had a hell of a job tying up so many story lines they'd introduced the first 3 seasons but frankly I thought they did a pretty mediocre job of it. Better than the crap writers of Suxter, I mean Dexter, mind you but nowhere near the standards they set in the first half of the series. Gee just like Suxter.
BrBa has been good from the get go and gotten better as its gone along. A real masterpiece even if it's Pilot was only OK
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Come on Pushing Daisies fans, please!! :D Don't let a run of the mill sitcom take down a very ingenious show.
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Well I'm happy I stay out of this one.
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Lost it is
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Lost's Pilot episode was jaw dropping.
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I like Breaking Bad.... But I loveeeeee LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOST ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nothing will top Lost.
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100% agree!!
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Lost & Pushing Daisies.

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You know where it's at. :D
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Definitely Lost over Breaking Bad. We've gone over that enough.

And Pushing Daisies over HIMYM. I'm still salty that more people didn't watch Pushing Daisies.
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Haha, salty? I agree with you, but I've definitely never heard that expression. :)
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I can't believe people are still taking Lost seriously. They were making it up as they went along people.
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hahahahh ... you just described pretty much every writer for TV shows ever!
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If you still believe the false claim that "they were making it up as they went along" then you are truly LOST, The ending was foretold in the very first episode.
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Not to nit-pick, but which part was fore-told in the first episode? Other than that comic book thing...

I haven't seen the pilot in years, so I'm just wondering which part you mean.
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In the pilot the convo between Locke and Walt foreshadows the concept of the final showdown between Jacob(The candidates) and MIB/Smokey, It also foreshadows the Flash-sideways, Or at least an afterlife scenario...

Backgammon originated around 5000 years ago as Locke mentioned, the game was played by Egyptian royalty in order to prepare themselves for "The Afterlife", They believed that by overcoming the obstacles within the game they were cleansing their souls and would be allowed into the next phase of existence.

In Egyptian mythology the dead played alongside the living, the game itself acted as a means for the dead and the living to make contact with one another, However, the specific purpose of enacting the netherworld passage to effect union with a constant, the opponent in the Senet ritual was understood as an inimical unnamed dark spiritual entity who was assimilated to the enemies of light, and who was eventually destroyed at the end of the game--denied union with a constant and eternal life in the afterlife.

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You know who else makes it up as they go along? Vince Gilligan and the Breaking Bad writers.
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[Sigh] This is for the PILOT. Not "Which show was best" or "which was better for the longest" or "Which explained things better" or "Which show continued to make sense after season 1"

It IS "Which show had the superior PILOT" aka "Which show had the best first episode"

LOST's first episode was amazing... it was truly a big event. The cinematography, the scenery, the thrill, the setup, etc. It truly was a masterpiece.

Breaking Bad is, in my opinion, the superior show... especially after looking at how it maintained its quality over the years. And it's Pilot was entertaining. But (in my opinion) the Lost one beat it out in several categories.
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I should clarify... I don't mind if someone says they feel that the Breaking Bad pilot was better than Lost's or whatever.

What I mind is when people are judging the pilot by the rest of the show. In Lost's case... it really fell apart a couple seasons in. But that shouldn't affect the Pilot.

HIMYM was great for a number of years, and its pilot was solid. But was its pilot really worth getting into the semi-finals? Or coming in 3rd place overall? Based on the pilot alone.
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I'll never understand why it's so unforgivable if they made it up as they went. Every show is made up as it goes along.
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Agreed, what show in the history of TV has ever had the entirety of it's run planned from start to finish. Maybe a strong outline at best, but things change, ideas flow to different places than intended, and scheduling and whether a show will be renewed or not. Not to mention, when Lost first came on the air, seasons were different back then, the writer's strike change the structure of television. They had more episodes to a season typically and nothing like that had ever been attempted.
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People love to chant Babylon 5 when asked that question.

But even that was just mostly guidelines... guidelines he had to re-tool in the middle of the show a couple of times. Such as switching the lead to Sherridan since he realized Sinclair was too perfect and had no room to grow, or putzing with the final two seasons because he was told they were shortening it to 4 and then he had to fill out the fifth.
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this is for the PILOT! but also i loved all of LOST (a few eps game me chills, especially the finale). the only ep of BB that game me chills so far was Sunday nights. that was amazing.
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It's not about the show in full. It's about the Pilot and that alone. Hence the "Best pilot competition" contest name I do agree after the 2nd season the show really lost it's appeal to me and someone told me how it ended and i was like wtf. But seeing as were only going off the pilot episode i voted for it as it was pure genius.

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Remember that this is a poll for the best 'pilot' episode.
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you sure it's not a poll for the best voting bot? :P
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Go home, Breaking Bad. You rode coattails and fan hype to get here.
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I don't know why you take Weeds as an example of a bad show, I have to say I preferred Breaking Bad in it first short season, when it was a masculine version of Weeds, when characters were likable and twisted, when it wasn't that dark, when it didn't took it self so seriously. I can't really like a show where the main characters are a$$holes, I didn't like Arrested Development for that same reason (kind of), I don't say it's a bad show, I watch it, but it makes me uncomfortable at times, and role my eyes, it's weird to want the heros to just die already (and I was a fan of The Shield, The Wire and Oz, liked The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire, so not a CW kind of guy)

I loved Weeds first two seasons, and the rest wasn't that bad, at least they tried to make it change and evolve, and Mary Louise Parker is just perfection. BB started of as a dramedy, like Weeds, and took a turn into "I'm too edgy for school" macho scarface road that can be good tv at time but is just too "dude" GTA for me.
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Not necessarily a bad show, but nowhere near the level that BB is on.
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Agreed. It's hard to like a show when you can't stand a single character. Though, I did like some characters on Arrested Development. BB is too dark for me.
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If they are talking about the last 15 years, where was Last Resort from last year that pilot was freaking amazing!! Lost vs Breaking Bad pilots...hmmm....Breaking Bad easily imo
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Different people, different tastes.

Breaking Bad pilot was fun an interesting, and set stuff up well with innocent-little-Walter dealing with the stresses of trying to be a criminal.

But... Lost pilot was a big epic thing; the filming alone was cinema-quality.

While I wasn't the biggest fan of the last couple of seasons of Lost... the Pilot seems (to me) better than the Breaking Bad pilot
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I've an idea: we should have a Pilots Competition every year that way in 10 years we can have the Best Pilot in the past 10 years competition and when we compare the results, we will clearly see that people are voting for the series, not the pilots
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If you have actually seen the pilot and read the review of it here you will remember why you did or did not like it. I like the middle of the road stance they have given a reason for both and what was so good about them both and bad.
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Wanted to add: funny thing how memory, perception and beliefs work...
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The problem is, at least some voters (perhaps a lot) are voting for their favorite show instead of the superior pilot.

Lost is a no brainer. The Pilot was insanely good: writing, scenery, plot, setup, etc.

But "How I Met Your Mother" ranking so high? While Pushing Daisies flopped to ratings after S2, the pilot was also an amazing piece of art. But I guess people love Barney / NPH so much that a tepid sitcom pilot "wins" thrd place. Le Sigh
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Yeah, I love HIMYM, but I love it as a whole, because the characters grew on me with time and now it feels like they're old friends.
On the other hand every single episode of PD was a masterpiece in itself.
So if we're taking just the pilot, PD it is.
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Probably because HIMYM's pilot episode was firing on all cylinders. But, the arty PD is ahead now.
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Le sigh indeed! Sheeple did not want a show like enlightened, but loves the biggest "reality" abominations there ever was! Also sheeple love laugh tracks as it makes it easier for them to focus on their kingsize extra huge big macs and slurpies instead.
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Lost will win... not even a discussion. But as for othe other poll, I'm voting Pushing Daisies, cuz I HATE How I Met your Mother and it's 47 seasons.
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I'm goin' for Breaking Bad for this reason: With Lost, I saw the previews beforehand & said "Wow! That show is gonna rock!" and yet, while the pilot did rock, it took me 3 separate attempts over time to watch it from beginning to end. For one reason or another, something about it honestly bored me & it was a chore to get through the initial 10 minutes. With BB however, I saw the previews & said "Wow. That show looks kinda boring." and yet when I took the time to check it out anyway, I was completely hooked by it less than 2 minutes in.
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Not even a contest. The Lost pilot was so dull it made me never watch another episode of the series, whereas Breaking Bad is the greatest show to air. After Sunday we can now slide Seinfeld down to #2.
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Freaks and Geeks got robbed.
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Lost's Pilot made you want to watch 10 more hours of the show non-stop. In fact, this isn't an exaggeration. I've seen people who watch the show on DVD (or other not-so-legitimate methods) go on to watch 10 or so episodes after getting curious, excited, and mind-blown by the Pilot. That pilot set a standard that the show struggled to match for years. It was, in other words, too amazing for its own good.

Best pilot in TV history, no question.
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I think BB will be remembered as the much better show overall but since we're talking strictly about pilot episodes, Lost has this match-up won by a mile.
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