The Bridge "The Beetle" Review: Subtlety Squashed Like a Bug

The Bridge S01E09: "The Beetle"

It's become very obvious to me that The Bridge showrunner Meredith Steihm was one of the strongest voices in the Homeland writers' room, because The Bridge has already reached the levels of insanity that Homeland took just over one season to reach (I'm thinking specifically of Season 2, Episode 3, "State of Independence," when Brody went on that crazy car ride into the country with the bomb-vest maker, but feel free to choose your own wacky Homeland moment). "The Beetle" confirmed one of my worst fears for the series, yet also fluffed a new pillow for us to sit on and enjoy The Bridge in a different way.

First, the fear: All the subtle intellectual themes and wide-angle explorations of the tensions surrounding the Mexico-America border that were so attractive when the series first began have jumped off the bridge and drowned in the Rio Grande. This is now an on-the-nose show about a killer who's out for revenge by killing people, and who just so happens to be personally connected to the cops investigating the case. It's painful to admit this, but it's really disappointing to think about what the show could have been and what it is now. 

However! The Bridge has taken on a new identity as primetime's biggest shock-stravaganza, a series of events so bizarre and so far off-base from the show's origins that I can't help but be absolutely enthralled by it. It's an unsustainable model and I can no longer call The Bridge a "great drama," but hot damn! I am SO in to see what happens next and look forward to every episode with fanatic drool. 


Case in point, would any of you have expected our unmasked killer David Tate to shove a live, pin-pulled grenade into Alma's hands and lock her in a remote cabin in the desert? I certainly didn't! Would you have guessed that such a smash-bang pile-up ending would happen shortly afterward? Not me. Back to the Homeland comparison, David Tate's new M.O. reminds me a lot of when Abu Nazir went from mythical Taliban figurehead with a purpose to abandoned-warehouse slasher-movie killer. It's hard to tell whether this is a desperate act to get the water cooler talkin' or whether it was the series' plan all along, but when a show is in the middle of going bonkers—as The Bridge is now—it's awfully hard to look away. 

Last week, "Vendetta" took a sharp turn not when it revealed the killer, but when it changed his motives, and "The Beetle" ran with that new idea and became a sequence of weird serial-killer games. And even though The Bridge is now just kicking around the rubble of what it might've been, seeing David Tate fake-romance Alma while knowing that he had some ulterior motives was still nerve-wracking (and fun!). The episode had a blast playing around with what we knew, showing David, Alma, and Marco's two daughters having fun at the park while David smashed beetles and called Marco to taunt him when Alma's back was turned. But instead of stretching things out for multiple episodes with Alma being suckered by David's suave moves, David decided to accelerate his little game and drove Alma and the kids out to a vacant shack where he gave her a surprise: a live grenade with the pin removed! *double take* Say what!? Is The Bridge actually a prequel series to the Saw movies or something? Are all cop shows like this? Because this was absolutely ludicrous. (And great, in a way!)


We also discovered that David had been catfishing Gus the whole time as Zina—Gus's fallback plan if he and Sonya didn't work out—when Zina and her pierced face finally showed up and told Gus that she'd moved and changed her phone number months ago. It was David who'd been cooing and ;)'ing at Gus via text, because David's plan went so DEEP that he was willing to enter the mind of a teenage girl. Yes, it was awfully convenient that after not seeing her for months, the real Zina showed up just before Gus was planning to meet David, but a lot of credibility and attention to detail ended with last week's episode. The cops attempted a reverse catfish on David by using Gus's phone and planned a meetup, but the cops who missed the cop class on being discreet—the ones who were obviously peering over roofs with binoculars—spooked David. So David Tate had a waiter deliver a note to the Gus impostor, and on that note were the GPS coordinates of the shack where Alma was currently massaging a grenade. Marco saved her, yada yada yada. 

Why did David give Marco the exact location of Alma and the girls? Who knows. Maybe he's not very good at this psychotic murderer thing. Maybe he just wrote down random numbers that happened to be the coordinates of the shack. I think we're supposed to think he gave Marco the coordinates as a distraction, so that he could get the real prize: Gus. Sure enough, later that night Gus and Sonya were driving to a safehouse when here was Mr. Crazy Pants in a giant truck, plowing into Sonya's car, flipping it, and cutting up Sonya's pretty face. Oh. My. Gosh. The grenade-in-the-hand surprise was surprising enough, but adding a late-night broadside car-crash to the mix? This show really is going loony-toons, and it doesn't look like it's going to stop. The insanity ended with David dragging Gus away, ensuring another round of enjoyable kidnapping escapades. You're aware that there are still four episodes left in the season, right? 


We haven't even started on this episode's side threads. Even those were extra weird in their own way. For some reason, Charlotte was wandering around her horse barn by herself and walked right into an ambush from Graciela. Ray's bugged guns had pissed Graciela off, and she wanted answers. But instead, she got a pitchfork right through the gut. This show is relentless! If you are an actor who's landed a recurring role on The Bridge, you may as well immediately start looking for a new job, because the show kills more people than malaria. It's the texting-while-driving of television shows. And once again, the only character in The Bridge who's genuinely likable is Cesar. Not only did he blast Graciela's henchman with a shotgun, he dug a giant bunk-grave for both corpses and already had a plan to decompose the bodies extra fast. When Charlotte asked what they should do next, Cesar was a stone-cold pimp: "I'm going to take my wife out to go see a movie and pretend none of this happened." Cesar is THE BEST. Charlotte owes the guy a big fat raise and maybe even some of those sexual favors that she passes out like candy on Halloween.  

Now the entire tunnel operation will fall into Charlotte's lap, and she has to figure out how to manage it or get rid of it completely. I'd expect that Ray will have something to say about that, given that he may never learn his lesson about bad business. However, Charlotte probably won't listen to him since his negligence has brought the cops into her business. But then again, this is Charlotte we're talking about, and it's really amazing that she doesn't lock herself in her car everyday. It's also remarkable that Charlotte, who is barely a mentally functioning human being, is somehow now queen of the smuggling tunnel despite all her failures and missteps. Way to go, Charlotte! 

As for our old pal Linder, he didn't do much in "The Beetle," but that's the thing about Linder: he doesn't have to do anything and he's still my favorite character. Really all he did was show up at his buddy's ranch and confess to Ava that he killed Hector, which was a big step, but until we have any clue as to where this is going, it will seem pointless. But who cares?! This is a man with Brillo pads on his cheeks and a tongue that's swollen with bee stings. He can sit in a rocking chair watching the local news and I'd still be fascinated. What I liked was how terrible he looked, even for Linder: 


Is that a character on a major television show, or is it the ghost of Ichabod Crane? Next time, put some concealer under your eyes to get rid of those bags before you tell your crush you killed her husband. Oh, I just remembered that there was something important we learned in his two scenes. He finally told us what happened when he was burying Hector's body and Galvan showed up: Galvan took Hector's body. Actually I guess we already knew that considering Hector became Galvan's knife block, so maybe we didn't learn anything. I'm convinced the writers decided to completely ignore Galvan and Linder's confrontation in the desert and hoped that we forgot about it. 

Look, I have no idea where The Bridge is going or what it thinks it's doing. It may not be the great epic I thought it was going to be when I compared it to The Wife after Episode 2, but it may have become even more entertaining by gratuitously going for thrills. It's not something that will keep audiences around forever, though.



THE BORDER BETWEEN THE STORY AND THE NOTES

– I will say that the opening scene, the flashback to David Tate arriving on the scene of his wife and son's fatal hit-and-run, was pretty awful and melodramatic in a way that would make telenovelas cringe. The Bridge made an effort to evoke some sort of sympathy for David and to depict how much he was harmed by the sudden death of his family, but all I could concentrate on was the length of the scene (three full minutes!) and those guttural walrus-in-heat sounds that David was 

– I hope Sonya was with it enough to remember the license plate number on David Tate's truck. 

– Where was Ray? Off buying some bronzer or having his tips frosted? Maybe getting a barbed-wire bicep tattoo? Was there an Ed Hardy sample sale?

– This week's Sonya-isms: "Is it hard to sleep next to the same person every night?" And then, "He's going to be very good at this. He's not going to make mistakes," in reference to the person who had Marco's family and was about to kill them.

– I also liked the oddness of this exchange... Linder: "I've been thinking about her in a special way." Ranch owner dude: "That's natural, Steve. Let's discuss this over a ham salad." Linder: "I am so glad you said that, I've been so hungry as of late." Ranch owner dude: "That happens over such things, after my first kill I couldn't get enough cheeseburgers." WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT?

– Does anyone even really care about Sonya or Marco at the moment? In fact, are either of them among your five favorite characters in the show? Right now, I'd say Linder, Galvan, Cesar, and Tim Cooper (and why the hell not, Ray) are my favorites. Who are yours?

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Sep 08, 2013
I had forgotten or ignored there was a connection between The Bridge and Homeland, so when Tim pointed that out in this review, I was like "uh-oh". Homeland is probably one of the shows I most hate in recent history, and they already started with the cheap tricks on this one too: last week I foresaw a kidnapping that was going nowhere, and guess what? There's another kidnapping on the horizon! I do hope they kill Gus, otherwise, it's going to be another one of those empty threats and boring twists... With four episodes to go, there's still time to kidnap Sonya, have the typical barehanded fight between Marco and Tate... and other yawn moments. I'll stick around for now, but... not much hope, I guess.
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Sep 07, 2013
The interesting thing is that there are still four episodes left. What are they going to fill those episodes with now that we know the identity of the killer? And how are they going to tie in the remaining supporting characters who are still alive; Charlotte, Ray and the tunnel, Galvan and his girlfriend, and Linder?

When Alma was locked in the shack, I thought Linder would somehow see everything from his desert trailer, come to the rescue and be sucked into David's web of revenge. That didn't happen, but now I'm even more curious how he will be involved in the future plot. I hope he won't spend the next four episodes playing house with Eva.
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Sep 07, 2013
I actualy enjoyed this episode a lot. Geopolitical philosophy or not, it's become a great way to spend an hour.
There were unusally many awesome shots in this episode. Really loved the photography.
Also, what's up with Daniel? Still in rehab?
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Sep 07, 2013
The show does seem to have turned on its heel in the last few weeks. Not sure if this is for the best or the worst (perhaps once the "murder mystery" angle is gone we can get back to the interesting border stories?)

More interested in Charlotte now that she's decided to get into the game, though!
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Sep 06, 2013
I got disappointed by the whole solving of the grenade thing. It was just too easy, as was a few other threads that just upped and disappeared. Where did "Bosco" go? Please, return...
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Sep 07, 2013
I agree the grenade incident was dispatched too quickly. And alma was way too compliant all the way to the cabin and getting into the cabin itself.
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Sep 07, 2013
And I also didn't like them getting rid of the awful mexican cartell-woman. There's a lot to work with there.
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Sep 06, 2013
Another thing that doesn't wash. Why hook up with Alma, who is already straying from Marco, then leave her and the girls in the shack, then give the Police the coordinates so that Marco could ride in as Alma's knight in shining armor? Hardly seems like he stuck it to Marco, seems quite the reverse actually.
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Sep 07, 2013
He probably thought Marco would come too late. I do agree it was a botched scene and Alma was the perfect victim.
God Forbid this would ever happen to anyone, but if a stranger asks you to ride in his car, even if with a gun, DON'T. There are many studies which prove that compliance is one of the main reasons why victims get killed. Those who refuse to fall into the fantasy scenario of the perpetrator have always a better chance to end up alive.
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Sep 09, 2013
Quote: "Alma was the perfect victim.
God Forbid this would ever happen to anyone, but if a stranger asks you to ride in his car, even if with a gun, DON'T. "

Umm, I am not convinced that she should have viewed him as a stranger, given that she believed she had entered into an intimate sexual relationship with him after her husband had cheated on her.
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Sep 09, 2013
Well, it really depends whether you consider an intimate sexual relationship opens the door to any reckless behavior. I mean if I ask my girlfriend to jump from the window, she should blindly do it, because I am intimate with her?
I think, and this just me, that the fact that she was with her children, when she saw that they were going outside from the normal city circuit, she should have asked the car to stop and postpone at least the "surprise".
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Sep 06, 2013
So Tate was the guy killing all those women in Mexico? He was the guy that killed that attorney then his latch key daughter after she escaped from EPPD headquarters? WTF. Why? I get the wooing of Alma to get back at Marco, the killing of Santi Jr. etc, but the other parts of it don't jive.
Weird show. In a way I'm liking it, but in another I'm seriously questioning why I'm still watching it. I do like the women that are in the show and the soft core porn, but the story itself is getting off the tracks big time.
The Tate texting Gus thing was a bit bizarre AND hokey to say the least.
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Sep 06, 2013
It would be nice if this show was easier to follow. The sex scenes are bad. Tv sex is rarely this annoying. I just fast forward past it. There's no Tara, No Jessica, No Luna.
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Sep 07, 2013
maybe making the sex scenes bad is actually a point TPTB are trying to make?
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Sep 07, 2013
i see what you're saying. like really bad prime time tv violence ncis l.a. style.
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Sep 07, 2013
I'm not sure what that means.
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Sep 07, 2013
to emphasize how rotten the place is, that even sex is lousy. :)
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Sep 06, 2013
I think the opening scene with Tate arriving to the crash side seeing his crushed wife and son was tense and terrible to watch, following FX's tradition and reminding me of gripping scenes of The Shield and Sons of Anarchy alike.
But sure, go ahead and make infantile fun of it...
And how on earth did this show change from American - Mexican border-drama to serial-killer revenge-slasher? IT'S STILL BOTH and it does it well. It's natural that it is leaning more or less in each direction with every episode. Geez.
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Sep 07, 2013
Yes, but the point is that he was following them, and since they had been quarelling it could have ended on that night if there had been no accident. I have the feeling that Tate is not getting revenge because of his wife and children where killed on that night , but that it was not him who killed them. That horrific shout could have been one of rage and not grief.
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Sep 07, 2013
He was following them? I thought he was called to the accident and they already cut out his wife from the wreckage, if he was following them he surely took his time...
You're right with the shout though: Tate was suspecting Marco to comfort his wife so he instantly knew what they were doing on the bridge and the rage came when he saw that his wife took the son with her.
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Sep 07, 2013
I also liked the opening scene
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Sep 06, 2013
The show is getting better and better!!
One of the things I liked about this episode was the outburst of Marco towards Sonya. When she asked him how hard it is to sleep with someone everyday, he goes "NOT NOW, Sonya!!" (And that's what I've always wanted to yell at Sonya since the beginning of the show.) It was really good to see Marco's hot-tempered Mexican side, instead of a just laid-back 'everything-is-good' cop side.

*It's too obvious to point out this, but I still oughta do it. It's not "The Wife", it's "The Wire."
(I actually had to look up to see if there was any series called The Wife!!!)
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Sep 06, 2013
Ok Tim, do not give up on the epic just yet.
I mean, first of all, they didn't plan the Bridge to be a one-season-only kind of show, and we already know the identity, the history and the motive of the killer so even if they do not catch him by the end of season 1, this is just one guy and it's got to become boring at some point.
Sencondly, there already were several hints in this episode that something else is going on: for example, describing Tate in his kitchen Marco said that his former partner used to be very passionate about the cases at the border and how unjustly a few of them were being handled; then, the guy seems to be satisfied by only sleeping with Marco's wife and not killing her.. yes, he put a bomb in her hand but he's also the one who gave the police the coordinates of where to find her and the girls! He could've killed Gus too but he has only kidnapped him for now which makes me think he has no intention of putting an end to his devious plans so soon;
finally, by the end of the episode, Gus told Sonya that in the texts he exchanged with the killer Tate gave him good advice about his relationship with his father even making them grow closer. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?
So, these are pretty subtle hints in my mind that this killer doen't settle for getting his own quick private revenge, and if anybody noticed something else, please LET ME NOW because I cannot wait to know what else is going on with this crazy show, and most importantly, how will all the side stories connect!
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Sep 06, 2013
When you'll further think about it, you'll realize that helping Gus get closer to Marco is very vicious and under-handed.
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Sep 06, 2013
Linder is just plain awesome... except for his teeth^^
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Sep 06, 2013
Linder is definitely my favorite, he's such a lovable wacko and Cesar is in second place.
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Sep 06, 2013
Cesar is awesome. Not only did the man bring lime he also dug a grave deep enough not to attract predators...

What? I'm into details, there is a reason we bury people 'six feet deep', and most killers get caught because they don't dig deep enough.
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Sep 06, 2013
Yeah, six feet under is good. They made one mistake though. Lime does not significantly speed up the rate of decomposition of buried remains. But it does not slow it down either. For more information:

http://archlab.uindy.edu/documents/theses/ThewHAAbstract.pdf

Somebody has been watching too much TV and fell asleep in chemistry class.
Like that episode in Breaking Bad where Jessy tries to decompose a body in hydrofluoric acid. FAIL! It's not gonna work.
You can better use lye (sodium hydroxide) for that purpose. You can use it as drain cleaner too and last but not least it is used in the production of methamphetamine. So all you TV producers out there, do some proper research!
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Sep 07, 2013
Using lime is actually a good idea, just not for the reason they said on the show. You're corrected that it doesn't speed up decomp, but it does do something useful, it blunts the smell.

Animal scavenging is one of the most common ways for a dead body to be found.

We're so going on an FBI watch list for this convesation you know?
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Sep 06, 2013
you know too much about that subject.Do I want to know what you've been up to? :-)
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Sep 06, 2013
What if David Tate is not alone in his vendetta, i mean there is a slim chance that he is working with someone still mysterious to us... Tate's goal is to harm Marco, so why bothered with all the mumbo jumbo on the bridge?
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Sep 06, 2013
I loooove Cesar damn that man is cool, my crush started when he looked at Charlotte like saying "you are so stupid" and know I was specially excited when he shot Graciela's bud and then came up with an awesome plan to make the bodies disappear. That guy is a keeper.
Sonya, woman you are awesome I love how inapropiate your remarks are while Marco is pulling his hair thinking that his family is going to die.
And now that Graciela is dead (she was one creepy woman... ask Ryan, but I will miss her) who is going to replace her? Please let it be someone wacky.
So now that David after lots of work finally got to take Gus... what will he do with him? Leave him in the desert? put a granade on his mouth? I expect something weird and evil so don't disappoint me David.

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Sep 05, 2013
Well, show is pretty much following original version. But Bridge kinda doing it faster. May be they have something else in their pocket or Bridge gonna give us one filler episode close to end. But grenade and Sonja's encounter with "personal issues" serial killer are similar to Swedish Danish scenes. And it's interesting to see where they gonna end up with Linder story line coz in original version his story ended abruptly without any explanation.
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Sep 05, 2013
They thought Cesar was a joke, til he let the hammer fly. I knew he wouldnt shoot ''The Godmother" because a man can't shoot a woman with a shotgun on tv. Not for any reason.
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Sep 05, 2013
I flipped a bird at the screen when I found out the whole thing was about just a cuckolded man! Not terrorists, drugs, political statement.....just a jealous cuckold. Plzzzzzz. get over it.
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Sep 05, 2013
And yeah I liked the show and was intruiged by it (mostly parts without Sonya)
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Sep 05, 2013
I was trying to understand what the beetle title and the focus on Tate killing one while talking to Marco was all about. So I did the google search and there is information out there on beetles. Some of this information seems even relevant here:
Bettles are recognized as armoured insects with four wings, the outer two being particularly thick. These wings are called sheaths. Could that reflect on the particular armour it takes to be a cop, which was what both men where at some time?
Most types of beetles eat dung, rotten fruits,dead flesh from recent cadavers of the animal life. Does that allude to the socio-political aspects of the series? Does it apply to the cops who get rid of the rot of the world? Or does it reflect what Tate thinks he is doing by seeking "revenge" on those who have taken his wife and kids from him ( all of which where escaping from him when they were killed).
Some beetles are agricultural predators, protecting fruits and vines from certain pests. And some beetles are pests themselves and harm the agricultural fields. Does that describe the human condition, that we are wired to be good or evil, law abiding or criminals? Does that mean that society is condemned to repeat the fight between crime and justice ad infinitum?
"The beetle" as a title just does not work.
This is an excellent example of a sought after metaphor that does not really make sense as it applies to about anything and its opposite.
But wait. Maybe this is the whole point. Maybe that's it. Maybe this is what the complexity and shifting paradigms of the plot of The Bridge is all about.This is a brilliant way of telling us that it's all relevant. The socio-political Mexican/American critique, and the selfish revenge of a madman, the family unit dislocating and then coming back together, the awkwardness of a man that is helping people in the closest thing to an altruistic gesture and mot being recognized, the criminals and their violence and so on. It is all relevant. It is all part of the patchwork that is our condition, but we still have the say of what our own personal quilt will be like; what colors and what patterns. We choose. We say if Sonya is crazy or slightly impaired. we have the say whether Linder is a hero or some weird dude. We have the say of whether Marco deserves his family or not. We have the choice, and in this The Bridge is a masterpiece.
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Sep 06, 2013
i just thought it was a visual to imply Tate viewing Marco as inferior and that he was going to crush him

or he no likey bugs
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Sep 06, 2013
When I realized Tate was dating Marco's girl to set her up, I was like Holy Shat?!! He really seemed to like her. And those poor ninas.... what a bastard.
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Sep 06, 2013
brilliant!
I just thought he viewed his "opposition" as bugs to be squashed;-)
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Sep 06, 2013
I actually thought that too, but the title is specifically about beetles and not simply bugs.
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Sep 07, 2013
beetles are bugs;-)
I underthought it and will defer to you on the implications of the title.
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Sep 07, 2013
Have I taught you, nothing,little grasshopper!!!!!
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Sep 05, 2013
I had to throw a vote to Charlotte for being a badass with the pitch-fork
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Sep 06, 2013
I'd hate to get hit in the spine with one of those. It'll rip yo damn guts out!


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Sep 06, 2013
I am not sure why so many viewers dislike Charlotte so much. She got stuck in a bad place with the tunnel when her husband died, and she is trying to figure out how to cope with what's happening. Of course, she stupidly invited Ray to join her, thinking he could help solve her issues, and that was a dumb move. But she shows she has guts with the pitchfork to Graciela and she shows gratitude to Cesar all the time. She isn't a complete loser like some viewers think she is.
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Sep 07, 2013
100% agree
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Sep 07, 2013
Charlotte is a survivor. she adapted pretty quick to all that tunnel business. I looked up the meaning of her name and it's the feminine of Charles and means "vigorous", "strong" which she is.
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Sep 05, 2013
Linder: "I've been thinking about her in a special way." Ranch owner dude: "That's natural, Steve. Let's discuss this over a ham salad." Linder: "I am so glad you said that, I've been so hungry as of late." Ranch owner dude: "That happens over such things, after my first kill I couldn't get enough cheeseburgers." WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT?

I LOVE those Lynchesk moments. It really cracked me up.
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Sep 06, 2013
Talkin' bout doodads and vajayjays.
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Sep 05, 2013
I haven't read the comments yet so I hope I don't repeat stuff. Also I didn't comment last week because I was "late" watching the show.

Last week--> I wanted to say WTF with every whining about Charlotte being such a whore and Sonya is a whore.... Hello, Marco is the fucking whore who cheats on his wife. Who cares if Sonya or Charlotte have sex since neither of them is in an intimate relationship with anyone else.

This week:
*Again with the harping on Charlotte and her "sexual favors"--double standards....fuck equality, woman are whores is what I get from your review.

*Charlotte came off as the new "boss" in that she killed the cartel lady and she saved Caesar's life. Oh yeah, women are stupid whores so Tim can't realize that Charlotte is the new boss. She is the one who said something about keeping the tunnel going and she is the one who noticed the bug/tracking device. Again, she saved Caesar's life with a pitch fork and calmly had her underlying dispose of the remains while she observed...sounds like A BOSS to me. I loved Charlotte in this episode.

*Who says the bridge is just about Tate vs Marco and not more encompassing? Duh, the driver who killed his wife didn't get in trouble because of the corruption in the mexican police---maybe that is one of Tate's main goals (avenge his wive by screwing with the messed up system that let his wife's killer go free)

*First it was compared to The Wire, then another completely different show (forgot which one) and now Homeland. Why all the comparisons so early on especially when the show isn't like any of them imo

*is that preacher-like guy a serial killer or a war veteran. The guy who wants cheeseburgers after a kill?

I'm sure I have more to say but those are the main points I thought off while watching the show and reading this "review"
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Sep 06, 2013
Charly went from *Oh no it's her again* to reckless harbinger of death in a single episode - well done! But me better waits if this holds up or passes as soon as it showed up.
Farmer guy: good question, WHO is this guy? Talking casually about the first kill is common for war-vets, retired hitmen and serial-killers in private. Hm. My guess is one of the first two.

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Sep 06, 2013
"*Oh no it's her again*" i often feel like that after vickys comments
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Sep 07, 2013
You like me and you know it
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Sep 06, 2013
(Joel Kinnaman's voice) : Oh SNAP!
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Sep 07, 2013
I'm not THAT dreamy ...
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Sep 07, 2013
Just call me "Jenny"...I think that's the name from the song. If you don't know the song then you are to young or I am to old (I remember songs from the 80s).
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Sep 07, 2013
@Vicky:
Me and my nicknames right?(Hussy)
I got one for each and everyone: yours is Calavicky Jane.
Nah, I'm kidding. It's 8675309.
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Sep 07, 2013
who is Charly?
adorable you have a nickname for her;-)

snappy isn't he....
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Sep 06, 2013
i have a feeling i am going to pay for that
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Sep 05, 2013
*Charlotte got saved by Cesar first and came off as entitled, lazy and oblivious in her actions = not so much a boss figure

*Marco is paying for his whoring ways

*Charlotte now doesnt know what to do with the tunnel, which is why she said they would talk about the tunnel later - to see if Cesar has any other connections

*I think most of Tates actions are driven by revenge, killing the guy who caused the crash and punishing Marco fits this. The whole politico serial killer plot has been a ruse to cover his tracks.

*Comparisons for this show to others is just inaccurate so far. Its not The Wire. Its not Twin Peaks and its not Homeland. I expect there will be more comparisons in the following weeks. My money is on The Following

*It would have been a decent twist if the preacher was the serial killer and Tate just used his killings as a way of getting his revenge. But its not looking that way, so i guess he is just a preacher who has killed some people.

The tunnel and corruption will probably be the emphasis for season 2, otherwise all this groundwork is wasted
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Sep 06, 2013
*Or Whitechapel. I just loved the first episode of seson four. Okay, I just wanted to mention Whitechapel somewhere and this is it. Bet you though he will never mention Breaking Bad.
*I think killing people is a Southern thing with preachers. Many churches where also the funeral home in them small towns of the Wild West. I think this is the point they are making, that it's still the Wild West on the Texan side of the border.Also, it's Texas, where everyone is a little cuckoo when it comes to who lives and who dies.
*The preacher can be the serial killer for season two, though. Maybe season two will about Charlotte becoming the Big Juju of the whole place with Cezar ( not Seize Her) as her left tenant (pun intended).
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Sep 06, 2013
WHITECHAPEL CREEPS ME OUT IT IS FANTASTIC YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MENTIONED IT NOW I CAN'T STOP SCREAMING!!!!
AAAAAAARRRGGGGHHHHHHH
Seriously it's awesome, I liked the first and the third season also.
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Sep 06, 2013
who would be her right tennant?
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Sep 06, 2013
Wouldn't you like to know ;).
Actually, it is very interesting etymologically since the word "lieutenant", is French for " lieu" (place) and tenant" (holding tightly) and was the officer in charge during an operation or battle to maintain a certain location on the battlefield. Sergent, from the French "sers" (hold together) and "gent" (people) was the officer in charge of maintaining discipline among the troops. This was of course introduced by Napoleon.
When the British accredited the word "lieutenant", linguistics made the word spelled "lefttenant", which changed the meaning as being in charge of the soldier on your left, as a right handed soldier needed the right hand space to recharge his munition.
Tenant, was also describing the person who rented an agricultural property for several decades, even genrations, as opposed to a "leaser" or "bailer" or even worse a "rentor".
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Sep 06, 2013
forget your stereotypes of "a southern thing" and a modern "wild west"--at least not IRL (border towns remind me of Mexico with an American vibe but not a pro-vigilante vibe imo--forget Waco but I blame the ATF and government [plus media spin] on that fiasco).

I live in Texas and have numerous in-laws (plus some immediate family in New Braunfels, TX) in some small towns (yes, many are gun "collectors" but it's nothing like the "wild west")---we have computers, internets, and I would bet that El Paso has a Starbucks or two;-) It's more "wild" (minimal, not all, non-corruptable cops) in Mexico along the border. Embarrassing to say but one of my brothers got into an argument on the amount of a bribe he would pay for a driving violation in Central America--don't ask.

I like the idea of the preacher as the serial killer of the young women from when Tate was with the FBI and Charlotte becoming the big juju (she was so composed and boss like after just KILLING someone).

WHITECHAPEL is great!! I haven't started the new season yet.
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Sep 06, 2013
With Waco I blame the FBI too.
OMG they are reading this! Sorry FBI I didn't mean it, please don't shoot me and my family! You know what, FBI: shoot my family but spare me and the cat!
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Sep 06, 2013
wow...you have "internets,"
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Sep 06, 2013
I was just pulling your leg re: Texas. Jeeezus!!!! me rolling my eyes :-)
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Sep 05, 2013
Tate is to smart to be compared to the FBI in The Following;-)

Charlotte remained so calm and collect during her storyline...she gave off "in control" vibes unlike the ditzy vibes she gave off in prior episodes where she trusted Ray to manage the tunnel business.

I can see (if the writers wanted to) how the show could go back to the "politico serial killer plot"~~revenge against the corrupt system that blew off his investigation into who was killing girls (back when he was with the FBI...maybe the preacher guy is that killer) and blew off investigating/prosecuting the driver who killed his wife and son. Sure he killed the driver but that driver had been free to enjoy life from '04 (I think that is when the car crash happened) until now. Both sides screwed him-->american fbi not allowing him to pursue the case of the killer of young women and the mexican police/politics allowing the son of a wealthy guy (cartel? guy??) go free (also the USA not pushing for Mexico to solve the manslaughter case and prosecute it)
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Sep 05, 2013
Corrections:
second paragraph: "every" should be "everyone's"
4th paragraph: underling (not underlying)

Thanks GC: Twin Peaks was the other show Tim used as a comparison... at least Tim picked 3 good shows even though I don't see them as similar imo
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Sep 07, 2013
Twin Peaks,, now that's ashow that should be remade or continued. I always wanted to know who were the Aliens in the cave.
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Sep 05, 2013
How could you miss the best Sonya quote? "MILF? I don't have any children!" At this point, I'm watching this show for the reason I watch American Horror Story - because it's absolutely, completely INSANE. It's like they set up a concept they had no idea how to execute, so they just changed the show. I mean, what's the role of Frye and the other reporter now? And how does Linder or the tunnel even factor into the larger storyline? I agree that this is a fascinating train wreck, but the show originally had such potential.

I like Sonya for her matter-of-fact simplicity. Especially next to Marco, who gets more despicable every week. It's hard to feel sympathy for a guy who screws everything that moves, even the wives of his friends.
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Sep 06, 2013
Agreed on Marco. He started out all suave, and it was so easy to believe him when he says she was nothin' baby, I love you. And now it's so heavy-handed that, if I didn't love this show so much I'd be turning it off. Marco's casual affair destroyed Tate's life? Literally destroyed Tate's life?? I'm holding out that the batshit crazy comes full circle and we still get a strong finish, but either way, definitely the most fascinating train wreck of the summer.
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Sep 05, 2013
I'd still argue that American Horror Story is well executed and does have a concept, and a very good one at that.

I still hope that The Bridge's weirdness will make sense in the end, when the bigger picture is revealed.
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Sep 05, 2013
Let me put it this way: The show is not what I expected it to be but that doesn't mean it's worse now. I actually like the crazy ride that it has taken us on and I don't think David Tate gave away the coordinates out of good will. I'm curious what the endgame is here!
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Sep 05, 2013
the only thing I didn't like is the producers making us wait forever for things to unfold. I hope they strengthen the pacing a bit more next season. I think every episode should be satisfying in its own right. Not weak plot building eps that are later justified by exciting climactic eps.
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Sep 05, 2013
Is it sad that I look forward to this show and your review every week?
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Sep 06, 2013
No. It's also not sad if you feel the same about Under the Dome. Tim Surette's reviews are the real reason that show exists.
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Sep 05, 2013
nah!
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Sep 05, 2013
From what I could tell, the abandoned house had two rooms separated by an empty doorway and seemed decently large. So why couldn't Alma have her kids in the corner and throw the grenade to the other side of the house while covering her kids from the explosion? I doubt that any of them would've been severely injured... or at least much less than Alma trying to drop the grenade and run to the other side of the house like it looked how she was planning to do.

Also, Sonya's response to the MILF comment, "I know what it means, but I don't even have kids." lol
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Sep 05, 2013
Well, this squashes my hope that the American version of this series will not have the same cruel ending as the scandinavian one. I guess it's too dramatic to rewrite.
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Sep 05, 2013
Charlotte to Cesar "What do we do now?"

My ideal response from Cesar
"Whats all this "we" shit white woman?"

Also Charlotte helping Cesar get rid of the bodies, all she did was kick the body in the hole = LAZY BITCH!, Cesar has spent considerable time digging the hole, moving the bodies, getting the lime..all in the baking sun and her idea of help is to kick a dead body - if i was Cesar i would DEMAND a raise!!

When Alma and Marco were hugging after he threw the grenade away, all i was thinking was "if David really wants to hurt Marco, then he is waiting in the hills with a sniper rifle and shoots Alma in the head while they are hugging", and before anyone starts "YOU CANT KILL A PREGNANT WOMAN!!", i would like to point out that David Tate is a serial killer who is seemingly out for revenge against Gus for what happened to his family. Also this explains why he gave them the GPS co ords

Also if he kills Alma, then the writers dont have to write that last scene, where David Tate turns up, out of nowhere and crashes into Sonya's car (i now it will probably be explained with "he was tracking Gus' phone" or something,
And we would have a tighter last few episodes if David snatched Gus in the next episode while Marco is still reeling from Alma's death
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Sep 05, 2013
Charlotte is THE BOSS and has her underling (minion/grunt) do the manual labor. I mean she saved his life and pitched forked the cartel woman so the least Caesar can do is dispose of the bodies while she monitors him. Did he really save Charlotte's life first? I just thought they were going to cut her face to find out where Ray was.

Pregnant woman can die but it is pretty taboo for most shows. I thought the most likely event would be for Tate to kill Alma by long distance rifle shot. I thought it would be a sick/twisted funny if dumb ass Marco threw the grenade and it accidentally landed in the truck. Yeah, killing young kids is also pretty taboo. I also thought the grenade might be a dud/fake for psychological torture but there are better ways to psychologically torture people so I ruled that out pretty quickly.

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Sep 05, 2013
"Cesar is THE BEST. Charlotte owes the guy a big fat raise and maybe even some of those sexual favors that she passes out like candy on Halloween. "
YIKES! no... Cesar on top of being likeable is also smart so I'm sure he knows how and when she gives those candies away, surely he's as disgusted as we are.

This show is cookoo, but I'm definetely enjoying the crazy ride.

Now that Graciela is out of the picture will be Galvan who takes ownership of the tunel, not Charlotte, so next time those 2 meet he will make it clear to her that is his turn in chanrge.. methinks.

I must admit I didn't get why Tate gave the gps coordinates to Marco; I'm guessing he was always after Gus and Alma was just a distraction, but there was no way for him to know that the police was gonna be there for the meeting, so what, did he just made a desition right there? or was he going to text the coordinates anyways after kidnaping Gus? I don't get it but WTH, I love this show so I'll go with whatever theory anyways.
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Sep 06, 2013
With regard to Tate giving the GPS coordinates...I think that with Alma and the girls (and with the girl he staked out in the desert) he genuinely didn't care if they lived or died. He arranged a situation in which they might die and gave the police the information they needed so that they might be able to save them. But I don't think he actually gave a hoot as to how those situations played out, as long as they played their 'I'm a big meanie who needs a distraction' part.
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Sep 06, 2013
I will miss Graziela and her cunt ways with Ray, though.
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Sep 06, 2013
tell me more of these ways
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Sep 06, 2013
You know that curiosity killed the pussy cat? You have to prove to me you have no pussy cats in your vicinity. I happen to love pussy cats. Especially the hairy ones.
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Sep 07, 2013
@grumpyclown

no I meant what you understood
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Sep 07, 2013
@KerKesh
You meant actual cats?
I was talking about a whole different thing.
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Sep 07, 2013
@grumpyclown
hairless cats, like the Sphinx ? It's too nubile for me.
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Sep 06, 2013
i prefer the hairless cats.
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Sep 06, 2013
was Ray "forced"? People laugh at that scene, I know I laughed so hard at that scene but in retrospect I wonder how we would feel if the roles were reverse (powerful guy demanding a blow job from a less powerful female)? Just curious....
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Sep 06, 2013
It was hilarious to revert the "old guy demanding oral sex from the young female" thing.
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Sep 06, 2013
I agree that he wasn't forced. She told him what she wanted him to do as if it was his only option, but he just seemed to think "LOL OK", and didn't even try to get out of it. And when he made the delivery, he was the one who brought up the subject and said that he was ready to do it again.

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Sep 07, 2013
Isn't he a ray of sunshine for cougar Mexicans.
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Sep 07, 2013
it seemed like he kind of wanted to orally pleasure her again!
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Sep 06, 2013
maybe her lady parts have magical powers
she opens her legs and its like a vacuum?
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Sep 06, 2013
Absolutely Vicky!
That's what I thought; the only reason that scene was "shocking" is because we are so used to see it in reversed roles, I would have felt revolted but not surprised if it had been a man. I will miss her and her hate/use relationship with Ray
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Sep 05, 2013
"It may not be the great epic I thought it was going to be when I compared it to The Wife after Episode 2..."

You should show your wife that typo. She'll think you wrote that on purpose to tell us all how epic you think your wife is.
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Sep 06, 2013
She has to be for enduring Tim.
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Sep 06, 2013
I am now trying to think of a joke that starts with "My wife is so epic....."
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Sep 06, 2013
My wife is so epic....

Richard Dawkins uses her as proof against the existence of God = (boom, epic theological slam!)

that she could turn Justin Bieber straight =(boom, epic Bieber slam)

that scooby doo and the gang cant solve the mystery of how she is so epic =(booom, epic unfunny scooby doo slam)

that she can play the piano by ear....sometimes her earrings get stuck =(boom epic jewelry slam)

that it is really really hard to come up with any actually funny jokes about her.

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To cheer up anyone who read those terrible jokes -

Safe for work version
Q: Why is 6 afraid of 7?
A: Because 7 8 9

NSFW version
Q: Why is 6 afraid of 7?
A: Because 7 is a registered sex offender

I prefer the NSFW version
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Sep 06, 2013
Aha! I knew 7 was trouble the moment he moved into my building. Oddly, not in apartment 7.
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Sep 06, 2013
It better be a 1/2 mile away from a school or 7 has to move

its the law
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Sep 05, 2013
I have no issue w/ the show departing from its original focus of Mexican/USA relations and differences. It seems to have even drifted away from the significance of its title reference and this doesn't concern me, either. I began watching this show for its characters' oddities and quirkiness and now the story has even taken on these personas so I'm loving it. I thought the banter between Marco and Sonya was hilarious when he was phishing for a little sympathy and hope concerning Alma and the kids and Sonya was reassuring him by indicating how the killer would get it right this time.
This episode also had the best "take-away-your-breath" moment since the sudden departure of Stokes 2 episodes ago. I defintely did not see Tate's SUV coming as Sonya was transporting Gus to a safe house. I still don't understand why he leaves the living behind as he did w/ Marco and Sonya. He had no issue w/ squishing a bug and I'm certain he wouldn't value a human life over an insect's. Evidently Mr. Tate was pissed as hell when Marco's reunion with his family wasn't the blood and gore fest he planned it to be.
I thought Cesar was going to do one of those "Oh, you in trouble now!" responses to Charlotte's introduction of her pitchfork to Graciella's backside but this wasn't the case. I think Cesar is more involved with the tunnel proceedings then he lets on (even though he never lets on very much to begin with) and he just saw his ante in the immigration transport business increase. Charlotte must be paying him a pretty penny too since he never has an issue with cleaning up her messes. And judging by how quickly and deep he can dig a grave for a horse and several people, I beginning to think he dug the tunnel solo, too.
This week Linder was Linder and what more could one ask. Seems Farmer Preacher isn't the godly-man I thought he was with the "first kill/cheesburgers" statement. I must have lived a sheltered life since I have yet to have post-death induced hunger pangs.
Great episode and looking forward to next week's viewing!
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Sep 05, 2013
Leaving Sonya and Marco alive is scarry as hell for them, because it means he is planning something gore horror story for them. Leetting them off the hook is not an option for him.
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Sep 06, 2013
I didnt think he was targeting Sonya
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Sep 07, 2013
I disagree since she is now his parner in this as he was Marco's back then. In his mind she is in Marco's inner circle.
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Sep 07, 2013
I'm not sure. It seems like everyone he killed previously had something the do with revenge or hiding his identity. The exception being the group of Mexicans in the desert - which is one of the reasons i am unsure whether he is the only killer.
After leaving his bloody handprint there was no need to hide his identity anymore, so now he kills for straight revenge, which made me think he was just targeting Marco's family
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Sep 05, 2013
One thing I found interesting is why Charlotte would keep the bug. She might consider the fact that someone is listening on the other side and will track it to her someday. This probably will happen off course, but I'm not sure where this will bring us.
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Sep 05, 2013
It would be pretty weird if Graciela or her goon didn't disable it first, considering that they went to Charlotte's place with the intention to hurt or kill someone.
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Sep 06, 2013
Well, the FBI know about Charlotte and Ray by now anyways. How this will play out is maybe season two.
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Sep 05, 2013
Having the show shift it's own focus is quite brilliant i'd say... as much as i loved the intrigue about the Mexico-America border and the killer's motives/next moves, i don't mind the change at all. This show is very much about the characters and the one main threat: a serial killer. And they all got me hooked! This episode was excellent and I loved that it was so different from any other episode. How brilliant is a show when this happens every single time while still being on the same page (somewhat)...i love it!
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Sep 05, 2013
Favorite characters are Sonya and Cesar, with Linder and Hank not far behind.
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Sep 05, 2013
Mine too
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Sep 05, 2013
This is pretty much my order too.
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Sep 05, 2013
Tim, you are the best.
Everything I thought through the episode is given in the text above.
Sonya´s annoying question was a big laugh!
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Sep 05, 2013
Kitty is one of my favorite characters, yet you neglected to add her to the list.
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Sep 05, 2013
You got that right! She was the show's first bit of comic relief.
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Sep 05, 2013
you said it all in a nut shell. I laughed as usual...
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Sep 05, 2013
Well, if you've seen or read the synopsis of Bron, The Bridge's original incarnation, you'd know that the remake is more or less exactly paralleling it, at least in its broader strokes. So the folks at The Bridge aren't just making it up as they go along or being bonkers for the sake of being bonkers. If that's a complaint anyone has, blame the original, not the copy.
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Sep 06, 2013
I read the episode synopses here (in Swedish), and it seems to me that only the first 3-4 episodes are really similar. The things mentioned in the synopses for episodes 5-7 haven't happened in the FX show.
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Sep 06, 2013
Maybe so. I had only read the very general overview of the plot at Wikipedia. They may or may not have had individual episode breakdowns there. I really didn't spend much time on it.
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Sep 05, 2013
I agree that the synopsis is about the same, but as I wrote below, I believe that there are big differences in the side stories. Also the way it's been 'translated' into an American - Mexican situation changes a lot. In the end, it's not (only) the synopsis that makes the story, but the way it's been visualised (and audiolised?) for us. Otherwise there never could be more than one film or serie about the same book. The way the American series is done gives it another experience than the original one. I feel the way the synopsis is being dealt with is better done in the original one, but the American one has some really interesting side stories.
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Sep 05, 2013
Not that I've handled many granades, but I have one or two (and I know the real ones actually blow after three or twoseconds, to make sure they explode in the air for max effect), but wouldn't it make sense for Alma to, dunno, rip her dress or undo her bra and wrap the damn thing, until she manages to pull out a board from the shack and throw it out? That window didn't look made of lead. True that a wall that thin wouldn't stop all the shrapnel, but, dunno... Holding it and thinking that if you just lay on it your kids will be okay (because, after you die, what will two toddlers in the middle of the desert do, exactly) really was kind of dumb. Standing, crying, shaking and praying, although very real and probably what any of us would do, just don't make for the best rescue plan.
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Sep 06, 2013
Unless she has duct tape or something, it would be hard to wrap it in a way that's guaranteed to hold.
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Sep 07, 2013
I think it would be hard to duct tape a live grenade especially when terrified. But yes, it would of been handy to have duct tape to try as a last resort.
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Sep 07, 2013
so the Mythbusters keep telling us.
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Sep 05, 2013
My thoughts entirely!
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Sep 05, 2013
Okay the grenade in hand is actually pure genius if you want to kill someone slowly because no matter how much they panic, human being are wired by adrenalin to want to remain alive. With the kids in the shack, Tate was garanteed that stupid Alma will react as she did. The plan is of course for Marco to find his family just late enough for them to be blown to smithereens. Just like he was just late enough to see his family dead on the bridge.
What eludes me though, is that his wife was leaving him with the kids and if she had not died on that bridge, she'd still be with Marco or someone else. If we are to believe the extent to which he is going now as a serial killer, we can safely think that he would have ended up killing his wife and maybe children in a fit of jaleous rage. The collateral damage of the series would not have occured, except maybe for Marco; but the damage would have been unavoidable.This had to end bad.
I choose to see that the political and social aspects of the murders until now are not a loss,as you think Tim, because they did occur and they did do the job to point out the rotten apples of the tree (of life). What could be said was said, and now the series have shifted before the redundancy of that arc became boring and lost its urgency.
Linder is my main man too. He is the living proof that one cannot judge the book from its cover. He may look and sound like a "loser" ( a word I absolutely HATE) but far from it he is a true hero who saves real lives at the expense of his own safety. He has no big organization or super powers to back him up, and if he will be in deep shit and lose his life , no one will come to his funeral or miss him. He could disappear from the world and no one in The Bridge would care. So the unsung hero wants some kind of recognition, some love, and dammit I hope he gets it.
We are loving Cesar, but I am suspicious of him. I think behind all this image, he might be the one who came up with the idea of the tunnel in the first place. I don't see Charlotte's late husband waking up one day with that bright idea, do you?
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Sep 06, 2013
Cesar - your theory may be correct. Charlotte will be discussing what to do with the tunnel with him, which suggest he has the contacts
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Sep 05, 2013
I commented before reading everyone's comments but I have to say I also thought this but forgot to write it:-)
"he would have ended up killing his wife and maybe children in a fit of jealous rage."
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Sep 05, 2013
Is it just me or does Linder's shirt, if you look at it too quickly, look as if he had blood stains / spray all over it?? O.o
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Sep 05, 2013
I was sitting here on my couch and when it wasn't an inappropriate ring or something I was like...this is a distraction.I kept waiting for Gus to be hurt after the Sonya exchange and wander out of the station. I am actually surprised Tate didn't make sure that Sonya was dead or at least close to it. I missed Daniel.
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Sep 05, 2013
The showrunner has nothing to do with where The Bridge is going. It's an almost exact copy of Bron/Broen, even down to the dialogue. If you've seen it, you've seen The Bridge
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Sep 05, 2013
I think there are lot's of differences, especially in the side stories that form such a big part of the series. One for instance is the much better worked out relation between the son and Sonya and the reaction of his father. But there are so many others. On the other hand, the bigger side stories in the American version are pretty interesting.
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Sep 05, 2013
The Killing season one did the same thing, but the end did change consequently, so maybe there is hope. Still, even if both are alike, the comments you make are yours and are interesting in by themselves.
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Sep 05, 2013
I am soooooo mad at myself. I started out LOVING this show so much that I decided to track down Bron/Broen. BIG MISTAKE. There are aspects of this show that I still think are really good, but (as with most things) the original is a far superior product. As season 2 of Bron has not yet aired, I am hopefull that the US version will have a more original second season.

To your point about this being scarier if this were about a politically motivated killer rather than a revengeda murder spree (which I agree with you and I think the murders are actually the least interesting aspect of both shows), Eric Lange (David Tate) addressed this in an interview today and he did a really great job of explaining why his character would connect all these dots. I guess in the mind of a man who has lost it all, these twisted, grandiose ideas make more sense. Looking ahead, we have 4 more episodes so it will be interesting to see how this story story plays out.

Marco is still my favorite character although he is so deeply flawed. Charlotte is a close second-she is a FIERCE lady. Cesar deserves a really big pay raise. Poor Gus : (

Shallow side note: Alma is a really, really, really PYT. Marco is a very, very, very attractive macho man. Could they have made David a little more...special looking?
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Sep 05, 2013
I thought the same thing concerning Alma and Tate. How could you switch from a stud-muffin like Marco to Mr. Bearded C-Clamp? This is the most unbelievable side story of this program.
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Sep 05, 2013
I know exactly where you're coming from.Saw Bron too and it was a very big mistake, which I promised to myself I will not repeat for season two.
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Sep 05, 2013
The same here, I saw Broen two years back and the show was logical and was great from start to finish. But why do you both say you won't make the mistake of watching the original Broen's second season because it probably is better than the American remake? The logical thing to do would be to watch the original second series and not watch the American one. Or do I miss something?
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Sep 05, 2013
The mistake lies in the fact that both versions are so similar that there is no surprise of discovery and commenting to my friends as you ecomes extremely difficult as I know how it will go and do not want to spoil it for you. With friends like you who have seen Broen, it becomes harder because our information of the series has to be confidential enough to make what we say to each other interesting while maintning the balance of not spoiling it for others.
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