The Following "The End Is Near" Review: Not Near Enough

The Following S01E14: "The End Is Near"

Being Debra Parker seems like a lot of work.

Between giving people obvious orders so that the audience understands why your team is about to be comically ineffectual and finding ways to become a liability at every turn, she has to be exhausted at the end of the day. I imagine that she must come home, kick off of those shoes, melt into an Olivia Pope-inspired bowl of wine on a stem, and just reflect on how she's George Costanza-ing her career.

Although, I'm not really sure it's George Costanza-ing, because that would mean doing the opposite of your impulses to better results. It seems like she thinks of the best decision, does the opposite, and it becomes the worst thing that ever happened to her.

It troubles me, watching how ineffectual she is as a manager, how passive she is as a leader, and how weak she is while being in charge of a team that's been proven to constantly be in danger while she can barely control her weapon. Did you see her shooting in the hallway? Each kickback was like someone had just caught her gun while fishing and refused to let that treasure go. Emma had a better time handling the recoil, and she's just a frail pixie visiting our human world. Also, I've been yelling "Stop going down dark hallways alone!" so often that I'm starting to think people on TV can't hear me.

So she did go down that hallway alone and she did send that poor soldier away without any backup or cover and she did get buried alive (or at least that's what we were led to believe from how the episode trailed off). Which is sort of fitting, because so many of Poe's characters in stories revolving around being buried alive suffer from some sort of catalepsy, and Parker can often be confused for being completely braindead.

Oh, that might not be fair to Parker, since she's supposed to just be a cult expert, not a natural born leader or gruff military type. But the bureaucracy of the FBI seems to always set her up to fail and it's miserable to watch. There are times where I feel like our weekly poll could be comprised entirely of things Parker did.


But she can't take all the blame for this week's shenanigans because everyone got duped by some weak plans by a hack writer. I can't help but think that if they could've jumped to the same conclusion we all arrived at almost instantly, everything would've ended up a little happier. Let's run through our collective thought process regarding the episode: Reporter mentioned that everyone should hide out in the recreation center. The murder cult people were not only out and about, but right there in the same crowd, and they even stabbed the reporter. They were all in danger. We knew they were all in danger because, even without reading "Mask of the Red Death," any time people gather together in one spot and it's expressly mentioned, it's a terrible idea.

But Parker's FBI didn't have the benefit of our limited omniscience. They did, however, have a working knowledge of the story Carroll hinted at all episode, from the book to the stabby telegram. Watching them work it out among themselves was painful. As soon as they mentioned the plot of "Red Death," you all knew immediately where Carroll's minions were. While they struggled to find the answer, you were painfully aware of what the next step would be. But Ryan's seeming precognition of Carroll's behavior didn't help him.

I don't blame Hardy & Co. for running for the evacuation after what felt like a tortuously long scene. I mean, it was weird that the police wanted to round up civilians like sitting ducks, since they didn't seem to be doing a whole lot of security on the building (maybe they asked, "Are you in a murder cult?" at the door). But the sheer theatricality, even if it was convenient for Carroll that the police did ask everyone to assemble rather than employing a curfew or telling everyone to stay in their homes until they were done sweeping the area (maybe that's just us living in a post-Boston-bombing world), would be enough to attract the full force of the FBI's mighty hand. With all these pieces falling into place, how could this not be the plan Carroll had all along?

The other person I don't blame: Jacob. I liked that Jacob looked around and basically said, "Hey, I don't want to be a red shirt." Because Aaron—my pick for standing on Carroll's charred remains and laughing hysterically as the last one left—died, really, for no good reason. The followers at the rec center were basically target practice for the Keystone Kops (did Hardy add to his body count?). And the cult has a history of losing so many people along the way, martyrs for Carrollism. Jacob said he loved Joe (a facet of the story that has yet to convince me—Carroll doesn't seem engaging enough to command that kind of adoration) but it was time to get the heck out.

Forgiving Emma was terrible, though. When Emma came in sobbing, "I hate what I did to you," I wanted Jacob to still be furious. He was trapped. There was nothing else but death for him because he couldn't run and there was definitely no chance for him to have a normal life again. He had to stay in the cult and do Carroll's bidding. His life was ruined. And I get the sense that all of that was Emma's fault. He just wanted to do a couple activity. But instead of taking a trip to the Grand Canyon or going on a spa getaway, Emma wanted to be part of a cult. Her trespasses, leaving Jacob to die and being Joe's sexual outlet while he was in crisis, are the kind it's okay to hold a grudge for. But he forgave her. And he paid the price for being so very stupid. But it's just as well. How many times could Jacob come around the corner and announce, "You killed them." Yes, Jacob. She's in a murder cult.

Speaking of forgiveness, the show desperately wants us to forgive Claire for being a harpy for most of the season. After we facepalmed last week when Claire stabbed once and hoped Carroll would just keel over from a flesh wound, she made herself useful this week in freeing the hostages. I can appreciate that she stabbed Carroll again in the same spot because, cripes, that has to hurt. But it's interesting that she never went in for the kill. She basically had Joe on the ropes while Emma and Jacob were, based on how long it took them to react, arranging the cop bodies in dirty positions ("I think that's illegal in Virginia!"). She could've ended it right there by putting him down. Instead, she kicked him and caused him more pain. Then they ran. Obviously, the show doesn't want to kill Carroll off, but considering all the hate she harbors and the obvious disregard for his well-being, it's becoming more apparent that she'd rather not be the monster slayer.

The next time we meet will be the finale! Who will survive? Who will Ryan shoot next? Will Carroll kill Claire and dump her in the ocean? Or will Claire get Stockholm Syndrome and want to stay with her ex-husband? Will Hardy have any more awkward and inappropriate post-coital pillow talk? Stay tuned for the (almost assuredly) ridiculous conclusion to Season 1 of The Following!


NOTES

– The final chapter has begun? This is the end of the book? Was it a novella? I know that Carroll had some other things in mind that Roderick's betrayal and scores of dead followers may have affected but Joe really made it seem like he had all sorts of puzzles and tricks for Ryan but, outside of that one "kill all the Claires" chapter, there weren't really a whole lot of obstacles. I bet Joe's feeling pretty sheepish about making a big deal about it early on. Probably wished he'd slow-played his hand a little.

– Part of the Carroll School of Killing with Love must be shushing them while they die. It's an art to murder someone and then tell them to be quiet while life escapes them. And the dying people do it like they have something to lose. Hey, you're dying. If you want to sob or yell or gurgle the blood that's filling your throat, you should go ahead and do it. What's the worst that can happen? You die faster?

– Hey, FBI agents: Stop getting kidnapped.

– I'm 95 percent sure Parker's going to get out of the box alive, but why are the cult members doing that? You have to wonder why they're going through the trouble of burying her, how they had the box available to bury her in, and what the overall purpose of keeping her alive long enough to die slowly is? I'm guessing all will be revealed next week but it seems pretty silly right now.

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I really liked, no loved, Annie Parisse as Kara Stanton in Person of Interest and watching a character she portrays to be so bumbling and stupid makes my heart bleed.

Wouldn't the better plan be to bomb the whole place by placing a bomb in a car outside the evacuation center thereby having minimal loss of the cult members and making a bigger statement! Nobody knows how to plan these things. *sigh*

Anyway, I'm convinced now that Purefoy cannot act to save his life. He makes me wanna facepalm all the time.
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I seem to be the only one who really enjoys this show. And loves Claire. Just watched the entire first season in two days and can't wait for season 2.
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Beginning to wonder if this show is in fact, itself a cult of sorts. Like, are Fox trying to see how terrible they can make a show and have this many people still watch it and talk about it on a TV website? hmmmmm....

Joe is so terrible, I know there is alot of love for James Purefoy here, but I cant take him seriously. Every syllable he utters is so contrived, so drawn out and ridiculously inflected, he's like the Mariah Carey of speaking. Having said that line of the night "Oh just serve the wine Claire", said with pure loathing. You have to wonder if he secretly loathes Natalie Zea because that was the most believable line Purefoy has uttered since this show began.

RIP Jacob, you were the only one with a bit of cop on. Death to Emma "Moon Face". Grr
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This is going to be the old "you can only save one of the girls" Claire or Parker. Didnt work that well for Batman though
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This was the darkest episode by far.
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If Claire was half as good at stabbing people as Emma was we wouldn't be in this mess...
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This show has flaws. The FBI are stupid and the cult members are all psychos which is pretty unbelievable, but hey - it's only a TV show! I find it very entertaining to watch and will keep watching until the end.

In this episode Claire started to get less annoying, but she still has a long way to go before I will LIKE her. I almost hope they do kill her, but then what will be Ryan's motivator? I guess she'll live.

Shame about Jacob dying. He really should have survived and gutted Emma instead. I hate that psycho slut. She is as messed up as Joe.
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I don't care how crazy this show gets, I cannot stop watching it, because I cannot help watching anything that has Kevin Bacon.
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100% true
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Oh this reviews crack me up. I mean, even more than the show does. Which also makes me feel like a horrible person because I'm all peace and love and everything but come The Following hour I'm laughing so hard I'm choking on beverages and rooting for blood and death for most of the characters. I hate what this show does to me. And yet I still watch it, like it's my duty to do just that. Sighs.
- Do all serial killers make pasta? Like is that a thing that we didn't know was a thing until tv shows and movies came about showing that as some sort of thing? How many times have you seen the bad guy waltzing around in the kitchen putting together and shockingly delectable dish while giving a soliloquy about death or something? Too often. I was half wishing that Joe would do an Emeril Lagasse "BAM!" and everyone would flinch and duck because they wouldn't be sure if he was actually killing them. Honestly, sometimes it's hard to take Joe seriously, and by sometimes I mean all of the time, because even when he's suppose to be at his most menacing he merely comes across as comical.
-Looky there, another gathering of people, and a dumb ass reporter standing there listening to a chick with crazy eyes spouting off ridiculousness up until her not so untimely demise. Who seen that coming? Everyone. Everyone did. Except the Feds, of course.
-Last week I was annoyed about the death of Roderick because Warren Kole is awesome, and because there was so much that could have been done with his character. So much story to be told. this week, I have the same feeling about Jacob. I mean, Jacob has always made me want to hug him and smack him at the same time. He came back and I needed him to be pissed at psycho Pixie, but he wasn't pissed enough. He never made her suffer. He just went along with it until he gave in and started giving her puppy dog looks again. I hate to sound sadistic but I really wanted Jacob to kill his psycho pixie gf. Like, the moment he walked into the door he should have just stabbed her or something. He KNEW that broad was crazy. Hell, she's the reason he got sucked into this cult crap to begin with. Why didn't he kill her or leave her when he got the chance? Why did he share his doubts and express wanting to run away with her? That is when I wanted to just smack Jacob, because I knew a split second before they showed it that Emma was going to kill him, with ease, because that's just how she rolls. And she did, and then the last cult member that I was remotely close to being entertained by is now dead. If you'd have asked me early on that the only steadily recognizable cultie left would be pixie I would have shook my head and yelled no. Please, God, no. I can't stand her. And she's what's left. Fingers crossed that she'll perish in the finale. But yeah, Jacob, there was so much story. I enjoyed him being the only one who hadn't killed. I liked that he was reluctant to really be involved in all of the stuff and he seemed to have a heart and a conscience, and I liked his identity crisis be it with his sexuality or with how good of a person he was etc. They could have explored that further. I feel like they're killing off their more compelling characters senselessly. They don't even die in a way that offers something to the storyline. It's just a death for shock value and gore, as we watch the numbers dwindle.
-Ah, so I haven't been moved by someone being buried alive in a box since that episode of CSI with Nick. I'm willing to bet the $2 million that I don't have that Parker being buried alive and screaming like she actually believes one of her incompetent as all hell colleagues will hear her dumb arse won't change that. Dark hallways. Crappy shooting. It was as though she was begging to be caught. If I were her, I'd have probably just said a quick prayer and banged my head against the coffin until I knocked myself out.. I certainly wouldn't be hoping. That's for sure.
-So Claire clearly doesn't want to kill Joe. She had so many opportunities to just really do him in and she doesn't. She doesn't even half ass it. Oh Claire. Her drowning out there is wishful thinking I'm sure.
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I see lots of complaints and negativity about this show but I think it's great! It's so suspenseful and not as predictable as some say it is. I find some people address this show as a comedy? Is that for real or do people say that as just another way of bashing the show? Anyway, thoughts on the latest show:

Claire is just so much more fun now. She came across as lame in at the beginning of the series but is kind of a badass now. I love her!

The evac center scenes were very well done and I liked that random follower who stabbed the reporter. I thought she played creepy crazy quite well.

Emma gutted Jacob so effectively that there seemed to be no opportunity for him to fight back. Emma is lethal! I think she's probably the deadliest of all the followers so far.

Agent Parker's screams upon being buried alive was chilling.

I still wonder if we'll learn in some way, shape, or form that Mike Weston is a follower? Perhaps in the season finale?

Lookidng forward to the season finale as well as what season 2 will bring. Very good show!
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Is it me or is network TV getting dumber and dumber?..
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As a Poe fan I found the laborious figuring out of the 'Red Death' clues had me yelling obscenities at the telly that *I* wasn't aware I knew. I had bailed after eppy 2, but the reviews were so hilarious (actually did make me laugh out loud - causing my husband to give me a funny look when I told him it was about a murder cult), that I figured "oh what the hell; give it another go, at least it looks like you'll laugh". Could not be more wrong, I was close to tears of despair more than once; especially as I watched the, as usual, great performance from Purefoy I couldn't help but notice he's almost a bit sheepish about the series now - hence why I think he's *really* got his eyes closed in the cap above. You know, a sort "give me strength" kind of moment.

On the up side I bet he's taking a lot of good ideas about how to deal with his agent away from this show. I wouldn't mind betting that Kevin Bacon is doing the same; his own acting is just showing a kind of 'let this nightmare *END*!' desperation now. He doesn't care - he just wants it over. He's probably even wondered if he should've ad-libbed a segment earlier on where *he* went nuts, murdered everyone, burnt their bodies (just to ensure no survivors) before killing himself (with a double barrelled shotgun to the head just to make sure); thus ending all their suffering (and ours) so much earlier.
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There was just so much ridiculous stuff like um why the heck don't you check people's driver licenses to check if they actually live in Havenport, especially since Hardy suspected some of the followers were already there.
As every episode goes by I just get more pissed that FOX would cancel an awesome show like Fringe and put this crap on. I don't even..I just don't know..sigh
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Well, at least Fringe lasted long enough to reach the syndication threshold. There's virtually no possibility of that awful outcome happening with this clunker.
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Just stopped watching this show . . . Soooo not worth the time. Would have been better as a limited series . . .
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about your last question, the coffin wasnt just something that they came up with, its a Poe story so thats were that comes from,its called "the untimely burial" or something like that, sorry i speak spanish so i dont really know if thats the correct name of the story in english.
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I'm deceived by this episode. I thought Carroll was keeping his followers for something big, something great. Instead, they just kill some few folks in a gymnasium with knives, axes, no weapons. Come on, have some ambition "The Following" and give us something big for the end, something that will keep us watching Season 2 ? Is there a season 2 in preparation ?
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The show is alrealdy renewed for a second season.
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Thanks ...
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If this question has been asked before, I'm sorry. Why did Parker give Joe a book when he was in prison? I was sure she was part of the Joe Cult.
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It's "Masque" not "Mask" just so you know, ha ha.
Anyways, it's official...there are no more characters left alive on this show that are worth rooting for. With Jacob dead and everyone else being idiots (and I do mean everyone!) I'm not sure what the character side of the storyline will have to me anymore. This is definitely a show where stuff happens and time passes, but there's no sense of anything resembling a cohesive storyline from episode to episode. With that being said...
*Props to Claire these last two episodes, wet blanket to somewhat respectable attempted murderer is quite an improvement.
*The excessive violence in the shelter hacking-people-with-axes-scene surprised me but I'm not sure why. I'm actually surprised there hasn't been more violence like that.
*That girl that stabbed the reporter and was subsequently interviewed by Ryan was totally creepy. One of the better random followers there has been so far
*No, I don't think Parker is going to die. Her kidnapping is more of a distraction than anything else.
*I want to know how Emma will live with herself for killing Jacob and indirectly killing Paul. I don't think she was really over that yet. My prediction is that she'll have a breakdown of some kind at an inconvenient time.
*Does anyone else think Roderick is still alive? I don't know why but I had that impression from this episode.
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Regarding "Masque" versus "Mask," I also remembered it as "Masque" but then ran across this:

"Poe first published the story in the May 1842 edition of Graham's Lady's and Gentleman's Magazine as 'The Mask of the Red Death,' with the tagline 'A Fantasy." ... "A revised version was published in the July 19, 1845 edition of the Broadway Journal under the now-standard title 'The Masque of the Red Death.' The original title emphasized the figure at the end of the story; the new title puts emphasis on the masquerade ball."

So I think either would be okay to use.
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I think joes story will be mostly finished this year and next year we will be introduced to a whole new set of characters.
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~ I am still expecting a scene that has Joe listening to the 1976 album Tales of Mystery and Imagination by The Alan Parson's Project .
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So I'm wondering...Claire - having been dull/annoying in the first two thirds of the series - has made up some ground with the throttling (Emma) and stabbing (Joe x2). Does this mean she is on her way to becoming the new leader of the murder cult?! Joe seems like he'll be too drunk to type his own name soon, so might be an idea to look for a scribe.

Re: Joe's drinking - as Hardy's decreases his increases. Are they slowly trading roles? Makes sense as now Joe is a lush who can't even slap a girl without crying and Hardy is a sober killing machine... Just a thought...

Shame about Jacob. I was enjoying his hair acting, plus he was one of the few interesting characters left.

Oh, and hopefully, like they forgot about the eye-stabbing storyline from last week, noone will remember about Parker and she will never get out of that box. Sorry love, but you are too inept to survive!
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You know, if suddenly the FBI became incredibly competent, it would seem too jarring a switch. Just accept them for what they are in this universe, and #dealwithit.
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I want to see Joe's reaction when his novella gets crappy reviews and low sales (he keeps having his fans sacrifice themselves)
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Joe Carroll #1 best seller, will gets Oprahs recommendation
Vote Carroll/Swanson
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I'd vote for them with the hope/plan of having Joe die immediately and Ron Swanson rule!!!
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What a truly horrible thing to say, i am very disappointed.
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that's what guns are for--they need to make Carroll targets!
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Well, as far as stupid goes, Claire and the Gray gooses staying together instead of splitting up so that someone for sure gets away was fairly stupid. And really, stab Joe in the same spot? How bout the knee, the eye, the throat, maybe cut the throat and stab him in the eye while putting foot to knuts. Then run.
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Anyone else think having the "Gray" family consist of a WHITE husband and BLACK wife, was a little too...on the nose? ;-)
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"Hey, this woman is obviously a member of this cult that's known for sudden acts of violence in public, but situations that aren't confusing confuse me, so I'll just let her rant until she's ready to stab me instead of running as fast as I fucking can toward the FBI like I should."
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I think that reporter worked for CNN
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not anymore
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touche
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Not a great script, some pretty stupid (and unrealistic) situations, but I have a lot a fun watching it anyway.
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No mention of Joe Carroll simply going full blown drunk in the penultimate episode? I loved how he was just sh!t faced the entire episode, or maybe it was Purefoy was really drunk when he read this week's ridiculous script. Best scene was the dinner. Some shows recover weak seasons in their penultimate episode, no matter how bad the plot has gone there is usually an ounce of recovery in this episode - Not here fans!!!!! Yakety-Sax was blasting loud and clear for a straight hour this week - right up to stupid Parker crying and screaming from a grave she's been digging for herself and her career throughout this entire season. Why does imbecile even want to get out of the grave? What she is going to have to face outside should be much much more humiliating and frightening than just crawling into a hole and dying. My favorite part was how no one noticed she was even missing until the entire crazy situation had calmed down. NO ONE missed the fact that she hadn't been around since daylight. (Oh wait, that's just bad writing again....)

Loved how the media is allowed to be with the FBI agents during the planning stages of the operation and that poor reporter just gets stabbed to death on television. People should have been suspicious of the mini-Claire look a like as soon as she was seen. Imagine your thoughts on the FBI if you witnessed that on television. What is suppose to make the viewing public feel safe that the FBI is keeping them safe amidst this terror becomes live murders on television. These writers.......

US Marshall gets shot again and it doesn't even faze him. He's the unsung greatest hero of this entire piece of sh!t. He let Claire escape early on because even in the early episodes he realized trying to protect a moron with no capacity to see her own stupidity was a waste of time. How two men found this woman so desirable, aside from her pretty face, is the biggest mystery of the show thus far. I WANT ANSWERS!

The 180 of Jacob made no sense. They had spent the past three weeks turning him into Jacob, Psycho Killer, and now they just jump off that thread without a care in the world. Just two epsiodes ago he got to do what everyone watching the show wants to do and punched out Claire, now he's the sweet guy whose sweet on Emma again. Aw Shucks.

These writers should be banned from penning any television ever again. I wonder if anyone is sitting around going, hm, maybe quick decision on renewal was a bad idea because this crap is going to cost money as it loses viewers.
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WEEK 14 OF JOE IS AWESOME, RYAN...YOU SUCK!!!

JOE-
-In pain from being stabbed by that psycho last week, but soldiers on (fortitude)
-Group chanting (good public speaker)
-polite to his hosts (manners)
-made dinner (culinary expert)
-survived being stabbed by psycho again (resiliency)
-taking the boat (nautical skills)
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RYAN-
- "i'm already dead" -(mentally unbalanced, delusional)
-"restrained" a woman (assault AGAIN)
-pulled a gun in a handcuffed female suspect - HOLY F*CK YOU ARE A BAD FBI AGENT! does the law mean nothing to you?
-if you had grown a set and acted earlier those people would still be alive (bad decision making)
-He only managed to get 9 of the cult members ANS LET 2 ESCAPE WITH A HOSTAGE - (ineptitude - just another variation on the the fact that RYAN HARDY SUCKS AS AN FBI AGENT)


I would like to point out that without Joe's conversational skills, the dinner party would have been very awkward.

Joe Carroll - has shown such characters traits as fortitude, manners and resiliency, while extending his skill set to cooking for an impromptu dinner party and captaining a boat
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Vote Joe Carroll for President!!

Ryan Hardy - showed again just how bad e is at law enforcement. And "i'm already dead" is not the sort of pillow talk women respond to!
Ryan Hardy YOU SUCK!!
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you could say that without Joe there wouldn't of been a party

Who is Joe's running mate?

Still TeamHardy;-) and we party hardy---lol, so corny
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Joe IS the party!
Joe is running with Ron Swanson

BREAKING NEWS - Ryan Hardy announces his running mate..................NBC!!!
He feels that they are equally good at their jobs, are just as creative and as they both seem to have drinking problems, will get along just fine.

Vote Carroll/Swanson
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Airplane---one of my favorite comedies! Right up there with Monty Python movies
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what drinking problems? I haven't seen anyone dribble or choke or run out of anything to drink.
no problems
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hardy drinks like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4plPGRG8o
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I bailed out on this idiotic show in the first episode when no one had the brains to just kill Carroll in the first place. After reading most of the articles and comments, I'm sure glad I did...
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As much as I love Kevin Bacon and Shawn Ashmore,I had enough with this show. It had it's moments,but I am unable to watch it anymore,after this episode.

Jacob:"I also love Joe and everything he has done for me"....really Jacob!?!?!? You were the only one who had brains ffs and then you say this. You're happy he made you fugitive,kidnapper,had sex with your girlfriend,knowing your girlfriend loves him,introduced you to crazy and mentally unstable people,killer,etc.
Clarie....oh my...Claire...where does one begin with her? I liked attempts she made to kill Joe,but stabbing him in same place 2nd time,instead of going for heart??? And how far away were those neighbours!?!?!? They got away during daylight and then we see them running,when it was night. And of course Claire gets captured again. But the thing that tops all is,that she is still ALIVE!!! Joe sees no point in keeping her alive and bitch still lives!?!?!?!?(yes,I did hear Ryan said,that Joe will made it so,that he can't save her,but if Joe kills her,Ryan won't be able to save her and he will still fail and blame himself).

Parker don't you dare come back on POI!!!! Stay away from it!

Final straw for me was,when Emma killed Jacob with look on her face. I asked myself(like many times with this show),who is really psycho here? Her(naturally) or me for sticking with this show and watching psycho's killing people and knowing how to kill someone:D I mean,I am not the only one,right? We all bitch about how some people die and how they should do it. Like we are encouraging them and telling them how they should kill them:D Just in case I need to state this:D...I never killed anyone.
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I agree but will likely keep watching.

One thing, getting at the heart with a fork would be more difficult then just going for one or both of the carotid arteries. To get to the heart she would have to go between the ribs at the correct angle to hit the heart and even then it may not be enough to kill him (depending on if she got to the heart, where on the heart she hit it and the size of the wound to the heart)...just go for the carotid.

Otherwise I agree with you;-)
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ooooooohh, hark at the medical student!
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I see you've given alot of thought about ending someone's life:P:P:P

Guess I am old fashioned,when I spoke of heart:D
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I thought she broke his heart?
Her heart just wasn't in it.....
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You really cut to the heart of the matter
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I like how they ended the last episode with Agent Donovan getting stabbed in the eye and then they didn't even mention it, let alone follow up on it in this episode.
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They mentioned it. Someone mentioned that Nick (?) is in surgery.
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I stand corrected.
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Subtitle for the second screenshot: Please god, give us better scripts.
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i thought it looked like they were playing team hide and seek
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atleast i am enjoying the tv show very much:)
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Okay, I'm not sure I'm understanding your place on blame and why is it relevant to this week's episode? Either way, I hate what happened to Parker. She does not deserve to die...personally I enjoy her and Claire a lot. Why?

1. Parker is the expert on cults, and she actually understands it's members and it gives us an insight into their lives/minds. She is the only character on the show that's sympathetic to me; other than Jacob but he is dead now. : ( : (

Does anyone else know why would Joe untie Claire just hours (or may be a day?) after she tried to kill him? That's seriously the most moronic thing anyone has ever done on television EVER.

Also, am I the only one who wants Emma dead? And by dead, I mean tortured, and than dismembered by Joe or his cult followers. lol

I'm upset by Jacob's death, that was really cruel way to go.....He should have killed Emma when he came back after Paul died.
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I just forgot to add: To everyone saying Claire should have killed Joe. First of all, she is not a murderer. And second, she only stabbed him with the fork to inflict him pain in order to keep him down or in my opinion to make him feel the way she feels.....she is still traumatized and forever ruined by what her husband did.

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he says he is going to kill her and has proven himself to be a murderer...if she killed him would charges be brought or would it be considered self-defense?

I would of stabbed him dead then put the corkscrew in his hand to make the self-defense more obvious:-)
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Wait a minute this is a drama show, I thought it was comedy?!?! I can imagine the ending is going to be so absurd all we can do is laugh. Hard to believe I made it through 14 episodes of this....
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I'm not american (Brazilian), so please answer me this:

- Why the FBI has not sued this entire show yet??

..the producer's, "writers", Jacob!, actors, janitors, why the FBI didn't sued the whole Following family yet? Why tv.com users? Why Nick? Why? Why?? LOL

Comom, FOLLOWING producers are giving AT LEAST a little courage to TERRORISTS !!!! LOL

We know (not americans) that Marshal's are badss thanks to Justified (seriously, Raylan VS caroll litle crazy fellows, Ahaha all dead in ep 01, first 15min...lol) but I believe that are people out there saying...

"you know what? maybe the fbi folks are THAT stupid!" (Translated simultaneously :)

Sorry for the grammar :)
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First off, it's a comedy:-) lol

Second, we have something called Freedom of Speech. I know we are lawsuit happy here but it would be better if the IRS audited everyone involved in the show (now that is SCARY)

It would be cool if Andersen Silva guest starred on the show and taught these people how to fight! Not trying to stereotype but all Brazilians should know about Andersen Silva:-)
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Yeah, sue the bastids, good call...
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by the way... I don't watch the Followiiiiing, simple because its impossible (mentally) to me, but I Admire those who can't (and feel sorry for Nick, he has no option, lol) but I love the reviews. This particularly show it's an excuse for me to laugh my as... my finger off on Nick's reviews.
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This show could be soooo great, but the FBI are just fuck ups!!!! In what real world of 2013 do they do this stuff?
There are too many police shows that the AVERAGE viewer doesnt know these things!!!!!
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I do get what you're saying with the whole ineffectual FBI aspect. If they were really this "productive" in real life nothing would ever get solved. However, it would then be a very short show! I am hoping they close it out at the end of season 1 and don't turn it into "The Killing" which totally killed (sorry) the show. I really like "The Following" though and I love seeing Kevin Bacon back on a screen!
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Stupidest thing that happened: Claire stabbing Carroll in the same place as before... with a fork...

She should have stabbed him somewhere else so he had two major wounds to bleed out of.
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This is the kind of question I think probably came up while writing the episode. Why wouldn't Claire just kill Joe while he was writhing on the ground? It'd be over, the group would disband, maybe into smaller pockets, maybe to reform once again under his martyrdom, but it would bring temporary relief. So why not just stab him in the throat and run until your legs can't carry you?

Killing and death are important themes to the show and if anyone could do it willy nilly, it wouldn't be special to the cult members and it wouldn't burden Hardy. Killing is reserved for the members of Ryan's forces and Carroll's forces. Claire's just a bystander, though helplessly involved in the skirmishes.

Making Claire dig the fork into Carroll's already gaping wound was a message to us that (1) she wants him to suffer but more importantly, (2) she's not a killer. I probably would've appreciated a beat for her to consider what she was doing, the opportunity that she had, but the choice was made that she would act instinctively instead.

Not to defend the show too much because I definitely was one of the people yelling, "Get him in the neck, you milksop!"
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If the show is a drama then she should of stabbed him (deep) just lateral to the "adam's apple" then dragged the fork up and down while embedded deep in the neck. That way it would be hard to miss the carotid artery.

For comedy purposes I think it would of been better if he was stuck in one eye. Then he could wear an eye patch and look like the Governor.

I hope her fork was really dirty. FORK you Joe!!

If she went deep enough she could hit the intestines and he could go into septic shock....funnier would be a severed intestine (large or small) and then he would have to wear a colostomy bag. Has anyone seen the movie Freeway with Reese Witherspoon (before she got famous) and Kiefer Sutherland? Very funny comments about the colostomy bag...
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Awmg YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS in your review -

"Making Claire dig the fork into Carroll's already gaping wound was a message to us that (1) she wants him to suffer but more importantly, (2) she's not a killer. I probably would've appreciated a beat for her to consider what she was doing, the opportunity that she had, but the choice was made that she would act instinctively instead."

I wholeheartedly agree.
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"Making Claire dig the fork into Carroll's already gaping wound was a message to us that (1) she wants him to suffer but more importantly, (2) she's not a killer. I probably would've appreciated a beat for her to consider what she was doing, the opportunity that she had, but the choice was made that she would act instinctively instead."
- or she just didnt like the pasta
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LOL
So is Joe a fraggle of a chef or is Claire a langer or nob critic?
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Well I still like the show,I was quite tense in some parts of

last nights show, some of the same kinds of feelings that I sometimes have when I am watching The Walking Dead ( which I like the most, since there is no show right now I have started to read the graphic novels). The only thing that bugged me was that Jacob let Emma hug him, when we all knew that she would kill him.

Well it seems that there are many haters on here, If I don't like a show I don't watch it, and would not bother to write anything about it!
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The Following is the best comedy on TV! It is mis-categorized as a drama, I think they accidentally came out with the best comedy.

It would be awesome to look in the tv guide next season and see "The Following" - Comedy (2013).... Police corner Joe Carroll, but Joe escapes certain capture by magically disappearing in plain sight as one cult member distracts hundreds of policeman, SWAT, ATF and helicopters with a single cry of "LOOK,, your shoes are untied!"
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I supply my own "laugh track"....total comedy!
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That's it for me!!! I'm OUT!! NEVERMORE never have been so true.

I couldn't endure more than half of this crappy episode. The action scenes fell flat I fell asleep watching it...

This show is stupid, the writing is stupid, the actors seem trapped and not even motivated to play their parts with any convincing in it...

Good luck to those who will try to keep up. (Bring the coffee for the last one... You'll need it)
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Oh my. As much as I love hating this show, I had difficulty getting through the episode. I've just lost hope anything good would come out of all of this. I think I finish the season, but is there something they can do to keep me (remotely) interested in the 2nd season? Doubt it. You can only watch people be stupid so much.
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If you people don't like the show, then don't watch it! Sure it's not that realistic but it's still good, stop commenting about how stupid it is cause we all know your gonna watch it next week
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I think the show is incredibly stupid, but I still chose to watch it today, before Revolution and Defiance (both downloaded today) and Mad Men (the show downloaded yesterday that I still haven't seen). Why? Because it's somewhat entertaining. I'm not sure if it's in spite of the stupidity or because of it. Either way, the stupidity is a huge part of the show. It's the only part that's worth talking about really, so what else would we say about it?
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One of the choices every week should just be: Claire.
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I am not one who are picky about shows not being realistic as I always tell myself TV is TV and its purely for entertainment only. However this show is really beyond ridiculous every week. It seems the writers just want to get to their end game and do not care how they do it even if it looks so stupid. Yet every week I watch as it does have good pacing and the 2 leads are really good in their roles. Well, we shall see what happens in season 2. It might get really boring and I might just give it up if Joe escapes and we are back to square 1 for season 2.
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I disagree that TV is purely for entertainment. Aside from the obvious, such as the news and documentaries (I will assume you mean fictional shows), there are many great TV shows that manage to be informative, engaging and teach the audience something/allow them to make discoveries about themselves or their lives in the same way as other media (films/theatre).
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Yes I meant TV shows, tv series not documentary or news footage.
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There are a lot of people who would disagree with the assertion that tv is "purely for entertainment only."
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You are right but TV series to me are really about entertainment unless you are talking about non-TV series. I think age plays a part too. When I was younger, I did not see it as pure entertainment too.
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Well I also know plenty of adults (young adults, "adults," "older adults," whatever) who believe that TV isn't just for entertainment either. Sure, they should entertain, but they can also make one think, should have thematic resonance and complex characters, etc.

A lot of people I know think tv, when it is GOOD, can be just as compelling and worthwhile as a great book, and most people would hardly say books should be "purely" for entertainment.
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So let's see, we know there's a season 2 next year and can't predict past that so is TV.com just going to bash and bash it forever? Just give it up like you guys do with other good rated shows that don't fit your mold. It's just entertainment and to think this has to match real life situations is naive.
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So let's see, we know there's a season 2 of reviews next year and can't predict past that so are commenters just going to bash and bash them forever? Just give it up like you guys do with other reviews that don't fit your mold. It's just entertainment and to think this has to match your opinion of the show is naive.

:)

It's not so much about matching real life. I watch and enjoy Game of Thrones but I don't rail on it for having a system of trained carrier ravens. It's about what's reasonable for this storyworld. Sometimes characters are so obnoxiously dense or plotholes are so gaping or stories are so saccharine/underdeveloped/campy that they're hard to ignore. So we talk about them here. Let me feel my feelings, nexpose!

But also feel free to talk about what you like in the episodes. Let me start: the technical proficiency in some cases shore up some of the awfulness in the storytelling. For instance, I really didn't like the buried alive part because it doesn't seem to make sense but I still felt the impact from the little things they did on the technical side. Letting Parker's panicked breathing and hysteria soundtrack the final slate was haunting. I'm also glad Jacob's hair went back to its confident pompadour.
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I'm not american, so please answer me this:

- Why the FBI has not sued this entire show yet??

The producer's, "writers", actors, janitors, the how FOLLOWING family yet? Why????

Comom, FOLLOWING producers are giving at least a little courage to TERRORISTS !!!! LOL

We know that Marshal's are badss thanks to JUSTIFIED, but I believe that are people out there saying... "you know what? maybe the fbi folks are THAT stupid"
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Because it's parody, and thus is protected speech. (This is not true.)
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At this point, I feel like your finale review should be enthusiastic in the first half and then you just say, "Gotcha." and launch into why you didn't like it.

That being said, I'll be hella amused if you actually enjoy the finale.
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Buried alive wouldn't seem to be their MO. They're in the rec center bludgeoning away and yet they have Parker cornered and decide to go "outside the box" Strange. Jacob=dummy Good call on the not going to med school thing.
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I don't think they built the coffin after they abducted her. This was planned in advance. I guess we'll find out why next week.
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I see what you did there.
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After running through the woods, seemingly for hours based on the shift from day to night, Claire and the captors she freed arrive at a road EXACTLY in time to be spotted by Jacob and Emma. How stupid do the writers think the viewers are? Oh wait, I watched this entire season. How stupid am I?
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In The Walking Dead, Andrea is running from the Governor and she arrives at the exact same time in an abandoned house as him. TWD is stupid anyway but if you don't like this show, don't watch it
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Seriously? I watch both shows and enjoy them for different reasons, but you really cannot compare TWD and The Following. The writing and acting in TWD are magnificent! The Following has Kevin Bacon. Kevin...Fricking...Bacon! Okay, that's basically it.
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You can not tell me that an episode like 'Prey' was good, watching Andrea run for 40 minutes just so she can get caught and die.
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There's no way in hell I watch this show past Episode 1 if it weren't for Kevin... Fricking... Bacon!
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well I like BOTH shows so there! Stupid is a pretty strong word
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his sister does adult web cam shows
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you would know that
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she is very talented
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Yew has gud grammers.
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He just must be excited about all the money he, his sister, and his best friend are taking home. I mean, cleared the mortgage on the house in less than fifteen months and got a brand new Buick? You know how much Buicks cost nowadays? I don't know because I'm not 70 but I imagine they're not cheap.
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so it is a double spam? One spam/ad for whatever the website is for and another spam/ad for Buick.

Who would brag about a new Buick? No insult to Buick owners (at least those who don't brag).

Well I'm watching The Following so maybe I shouldn't laugh at their grammar and their pride at owning a Buick.

Seriously, if all you can afford is a new Buick then great for you but I wouldn't brag about it. "They" probably should of just said a "new car"
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I think the stupidest thing was the reporter continuing to ask questions from the lunatic blonde, instead of calling immediately for the FBI.
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After watching all of the media screw ups last week. That to me was the most realistic part of the entire show. I could see that actually happening in real life.
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