The Vampire Diaries "Into the Wild" Review: Island Time

The Vampire Diaries S04E13: "Into the Wild"

"Elena Gilbert! You concocted and implemented a plan that resulted in the death of an Original (as well as the death thousands of other vampires), the trapping of another Original in a Magic Penalty Box (TM), and the shameless emotional manipulation of yet a third Original. Your actions forced the first two of those three Originals out of the Race for the Cure. What are you going to do next?"

"I’m going to Nova Scotia!”

Yes, after killing Kol and causing Jeremy to Hulk out as his magical tattoo grew three sizes in a day—note that everyone can see it now for no discernible reason other than, well, it’s completed, I guess—Elena, Jeremy, Damon, Stefan, Rebekah, Bonnie, and Shane all headed to an island off the mainland coast of Nova Scotia because that’s where Silas was buried along with the cure. Poor Caroline and Tyler, who, after being AWOL for a while, had to babysit Klaus.

Matt, well, he’s probably glad he had to work at the Grill.

Putting a bunch of the show’s characters plus Jeremy (who at this point is more plot device than character, let’s be honest) on an island felt like TVD’s attempt at a woodsy bottle episode of sorts. On an island, there’s no getting out of town for the evening, no cell reception to send urgent text messages. You can wander away from camp to kind of cool off, sure, but with SURPRISE TOMAHAWKS and SURPRISE ARCHERS and SURPRISE HUNTERS everywhere, it’s not really the safest of safe ideas. And so with all the comforts of a regular episode taken away from them, our newfound islanders were forced to deal with some long-simmering tensions in their relationships and to explore what the cure means for them.

Shane didn’t care about the cure, though; he just wanted Silas to come back to life so that Silas could do some necromancing and bring Shane's son and wife back from the great beyond. I’m sympathetic to missing lost loved ones, but the guy has already organized two massacres and seems primed to kill at least a couple more folks—my money’s on Bonnie and Jeremy—in his quest. Anyway, it turned out that dripping blood, or almost bleeding out, in the well where Silas was buried could bring back loved ones. Something about as long as there's blood flowing. And since Shane didn’t tie his spelunking ropes correctly, he was bleeding enough to get a full “How to raise the first immortal being” walkthrough from a manifestation of his dead wife.

I understand Shane’s pain and his grief, and this sort of thing is TVD’s bread and butter, but TVD has placed a value on people who work to move past that kind of emotional trauma and carry on. Elena and Jeremy lost their parents, they carried on. They lost Jenna, they carried on. Caroline lost her dad, who pretty much hated who she was, she carried on. The Salvatores have lost so much, including each other for a while (and now again), and they've carried on (as well as embarked on a murder spree, in Stefan’s case, but... bygones). So Shane’s obsession with resurrecting his family was a touch dysfunctional, especially since it would result in lots and lots of people dying.

To be fair, though, other people were also obsessed with the cure, and it was leading them in circles and allowing Shane to operate as freely as he pleased. While they should've been searching for Jeremy, or noticing that Bonnie was missing way sooner than they actually did, they were instead having conversations about their lives and their romances, and how those things were bound up in the search.

One of the problems I’ve sort of had with this show for much of its run, but especially this season, is that being a vampire never seems particularly horrible. Powers, really intense sex, compulsion, drinking at all hours of the day... what’s not to like? Well, the immortality aspect, apparently. See, I can understand this from the Originals’ perspective, but a lot of their issues aren’t just rooted in being immortal. Their family dynamics are seriously screwed up, and that’s going to try anyone’s sanity. But up to this point, the majority of the vampires we’ve met haven’t been terribly mopey about their status.

So I empathize with Rebekah, who is just so distraught over all the betrayal surrounding her that she’d very much like to lead a normal life, go to high school dances and have a partner who isn’t emotionally manipulating her or trying to make his ex jealous, and then finally die. Vampirism has been, as she said in the episode, a miserable existence for her. I can even understand Elena’s desire for the cure since this was not part of her life’s plan, even when she was neck-deep in love with Stefan. But Stefan’s motivation is a bit murkier. I mean, he hasn’t expressed much interest in a life beyond the one he’s led; while he’s never been thrilled with his situation, he’s made something functional out of it.

Of course, the reason Stefan wants the cure is likely that he believes being mortal will make Elena love him again, the same way that Damon fears that Elena re-achieving her mortality will probably ruin his relationship with her, as Shane noted during his little torture sequence. So the cure has become just another way to dramatize the love triangle, for better or for worse.

Back at the Gilbert residence, Tyler decided to take advantage of Klaus being trapped, and seized the opportunity to do some gloating. Which is fine, dude deserves as much, but when Klaus is backed into a corner, Evil Klaus takes over for Mopey Lonely Klaus—and so Tyler’s little “How do you like it now?!”ing resulted in Caroline getting impaled on a lamp and Klaus taking a big bite out of her.

At this point, there’s not much reason to find Klaus redeemable, but TVD would very much like us to continue to find him such, and so he ended up healing Caroline at the last possible second as she talked about how there are glimmers of humanity in him; he no doubt feels that Caroline brings those glimmers out. It was a mean con for Tyler and Caroline to play, preying on Klaus’s loneliness. Indeed, it was pretty much what Stefan did to Rebekah last week, just not as successfully, since Rebekah was onto the game.

But all of this—the search for the cure, raising Silas, the romantic entanglements, and whatever the plan for Klaus is—has to be coming to a head soon. And with Damon captured by a Hunter on the island, Elena, Stefan, and Rebekah will have to make some tough choices about what’s more important: the cure, stopping Shane from resurrecting Silas, or possibly needing to save Damon from a guy who’d like to kill him.



NOTES & QUOTES


– Dear everyone looking for the cure, three things: 1) I don’t know why you guys think it’s real. Sun-Moon curse, anyone? 2) Why do you assume it’s this thing you can pass around like a bong? What if it’s just a one-hit wonder, and only a single person gets to take it? Has that not crossed your mind? Like, at all? 3) Even if you do take it, what makes you think it won’t just rapidly advance you to the age you actually are? Magic is tricky shit like that.

– “Or I won’t look like anything because I’ll have gouged your eyeballs out of their sockets.”

– “What about me?” “You have a nice behind.” Well, at least Rebekah likes some parts of Damon.

– “I’ve been staring at pictures of Jeremy’s tattoos and there’s no spell.” Bonnie, no one believes that you were taking those pictures to study them. It’s really okay.

– Bonnie’s related to Qetsiyah? Of course she is.

– I really hope Shane got a byline out of his little cave-diving sojourn. I mean, bleeding a lot in a cave and seeing his dead wife should be enough to get him published, provided he doesn’t perish on the island, of course.


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THE ORIGINALS SPOILER (sort of...)

Just read an article on zap2it by Carina Mackenzie on what The Originals will be about. Aparrantly it will be a show about a human main character, unaware of the mysterical creatures of the night, who finds herself torn between two vampire brothers. Wait what? Haven't I already seen this show?
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I read somewhere it´s not right that writers didn´t confirm anything like that... And I really hope they didn´t because otherwise I won´t waste my time with that show..despite the fact I love Klaus..this would be pathetic.
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Oh I hope that you are right! I agree.
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I'm OK with that as long as the two brothers she's torn between are Klaus and one of the other Originals (Elijah or Kol)...though I'd rather have Klaus and Caroline on the show....
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yes klaroline can handle a show,...
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Apparently*
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I agree with the whole cure thing. They all believe that they are going to find the cure and everything is going to hunky dorey but let's not forget that Silas plans to eradicate all life and it's not likely they'd be human long enough to appreciate it. Big downside there. It's like one of those medicine commercials. "Feeling itchy in the sunlight? Has your long, unending existence got you down? Try Vampirnix! A cure-all for vampirism! No more brooding, ripper rages, or need to put on copious amount of sunscreen. Talk to your tomb robber for Vampirix today! *whispered voice speaking quickly* Caution: May cause squabbling, back stabbing, manipulation, and massacres. Some users of this cure may also experience the end of the world as they know it and most likely death.Use as prescribed by your witch.
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Hahahaha. "Some users of this cure may also experience the end of the world as they know it and most likely death." :)
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I seriously ship Damon and Elena, but I couldn't stomach another one of their sire-bs talks. Ughh they turn into Stelena (no offense). Elena clearly is a problem here; Damon and Stefan are decent characters on their own, but Elena has no personality whatsoever. I bet that if they put her with Elijah, she would manage to make him dull too.
Bonnie's touching Jeremy's chest made me really uncomfortable. Idk why. it was more intimate then if they kissed or even had sex. Weird.
It was the first time that I disliked an episode of TVD, and only Rebekah and Klaus managed to make it watchable for me, so bare with me, while I let it out, please:-)
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Okay, Rebekah-lovers look away.

I am about to go on a tangent about the busty, blonde, bitching, Original bimbo.

I get that she's (not-so-)secretly kind and finally someone who gives zero f***s about Elena (although I really don't mind Elena), but I am seriously sick of Rebekah. It was adorable when she yelled at Klaus about how nobody will tell stories about him or remember him, but she has given so many speeches about how she really wanted to be human that WE GET IT. Rebekah, we knew you wanted to be human since the twenties flashbacks. You have seriously hit the pathetic-mark.
And I don't think you're the villain (mostly). I don't think that you're "the bad guy" and the rest are "good guys". However, you are bitchy, spiteful, rude, careless, vengeful and irritating. You thought Elena was pointless on the cure search? You were carrying the tombstone. You're a carrier. Big whoop. Get over yourself.
Stebekah: the big relationship right now. I hate you, Stebekah. I'm not saying Stefan should be with Elena (totes team Delena) or moping or lonely. I think he'd be better with someone more interesting. Rebekah holds a quality that we're seeing too much (arrogant but secretly wants to be human) and their "careless" (not careless, the liars) relationship seems so substance-less and trivial and a waste of time, and I'm becoming seriously sick of it with her. He'd work much better with someone different and more opposite to Stefan. Like Katherine. Stetherine would be fantastic. I just... Stebekah kind of makes me sick to my stomach. Stetherine would be shocking and more of a reveal and cool and edgy and make Stefan seem like more of a villain, the Ripper, which was really awesome and interesting (and actually held a serious plotline for Stefan). Stebekah is just Stefan trying to get over Elena (which he can't; Stefan, you're still in love with her, whatever). Stefan really did once love Katherine (I believe) and Kat loved him. Stefan and Rebekah were infatuated with each other in a blood-booze-and-sex haze in the twenties that didn't really mean much.

This has become a Stefan and Rebekah rant, but whatever.
Those are my thoughts. I don't think anybody agrees, but those are my thoughts.
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Very apt user name!
You know it's just a very silly, OTT TV show you're talking about, right?
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Yeah, I'm just sick of having everybody look at me funny when I drop the I-hate-Rebekah bomb. So I'm stating it. Very clearly.

I hate Rebekah. (*smiles big with a thumbs up*)
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Oh wow! You did say look away but I happen to read this...

"Rebekah, we knew you wanted to be human since the twenties flashbacks. You have seriously hit the pathetic-mark." --

I see nothing pathetic about wanting to be human. Personally, I think she wants to be human so that she can find love. Wanting to find true love, have a family, how is she pathetic?

"However, you are bitchy, spiteful, rude, careless, vengeful and irritating"--

Some of these things may be true, but she has been all of that only to ELENA and not everyone else. PLEASE let's not forget she wanted to be Elena's friend, and Elena stabbed her in the back with a stake. (literally) So I think you like Elena to be saying all of these horrible things about Rebekah. On the other hand, I find Elena insufferable, obnoxious and self-obsessed hypocrite. So, I really can't understad where you coming from ? ? Are we watching the same show ?
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You can´t find love if you´re a vampire? Actually you would have plenty of time find the "right one"..as human you have like 20 years..if u wanna have kids. That´s why people end with wrong persons.
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Oh, I'm no Elena fan. Plus, when I said spiteful, I specifically meant to Klaus. Rebekah is kind of adorable in a try-hard way around Matt, but now that she's with Stefan, I just can't find anything likeable about her. I also think she's hit pathetic because her speeches were good and reasonable... at first. But she's just said it too many times. And we get it. Humanity. She wants it.
She wants the H.
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AGREED
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You warned and I should have looked away... I respect your opinion and I am not going to argue or convince you that Rebekah is awesome. It's just funny how people watching the same show can have such polarizing views.
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Too true. I don't think Shane is creepy either--I love the guy. Then people are like "The creep!" and I'm just like "Oh... it's just me."
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like tvd history there will be some twist to the whole cure thing
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This review talks about the previous episode as well as this one. Wow what an intense episode, there were revelations, action, several kidnappings, and betrayal. Despite the things that Damon does sometimes that make him an a**, there are many times when people should listen to him, from the first moment Shane came on Damon didn't trust him the moment he met him, and if I recall correctly neither did saying that all weird mystical people who show up turn out to be evil. But that is how it goes and the interrogation scene was worth it. With the last couple episodes Elena has finally utilized her vampire abilities especially when the Gilbert siblings teamed up against Kol. Also out of all the originals the only one I have ever had some sympathy for was Rebekah, and despite me wanting to stake her myself in "After School Special" Since than and in the previous episode we have been reminded of all the betrayals she went though, how she really has wanted since her character came on was to attend a high school dance, I actually wanted to hug her after seeing the sad look on her face when Stefan told her the dance was canceled, but the smile she hid when attemtping to do the Breakfast Club Slide made up for it. And most of all she wants to love and be loved as a human. Something happened in the last episode i'm sure certain millions of fans were waitin to see, Jeremy's Hulk impersonation an completely shirtless. Speaking of that anyone else think that in the scene where Bonnie is taking pictures there was a hint of a possible rekindling? Bonnie certainly took her chance to touch his chest and he certainly did not seem to mind one bit. Bonnie has become the second half season 2 badass again, only this time it was through manipulation and will lead to no good. And than there's Shane who just when we thought he couldn't be more evil, this is when he really showed his true colors. And than of course there was Tyler confronting Klaus, which I'm sure everyone knew would go wrong. Loved when Caroline showed up and called Klaus out on all the things he did especially reminding him and us about Jenna. But once she got close I actually was caught up in what she was saying I was surprised when Klaus grebbed her. We all knew Caroline wouldn't die, which actually led to one of the best scenes of the series with dying Caroline actually getting through to the humanity that Klaus buries, but she manages to bring it out and when Klaus thought she was dead and had tears in his eyes I actaually for the first time felt for him
Okay here is my predictions about certain things
The Cure: It will be one of these
1 doesn't exist 2. does exist but will be taken by someone and the group will have to give chase. 3. The cure exists but something happens where it can only used once, or that's the way it already is. Just imagine Elena vs Rebekah on that one!
Silas and Katsia
1 I think that Silas if in physical form will kill Shane right away, or if he will somehow posess him
2. I think that Katsia who is a spirit and Bonnie's ancestor will posses Bonnie and either help fight Silas or be a big bad either way it will be for the rest of the season. Now the thing is we know that witch spirits can posses alive witches, we saw Esther do it to Bonnie and the Klaus Tyler body switch so some might think it's old. Either way there will be bad consequences for Bonnie using dark magic, but from the look of next episode Jeremy says to Bonnie he will get them through what's happening so maybe if he rips off his shirt his biceps will distract everyone and Bonnie kicks some a**! lol
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Geez , i really <3 Rebecca!!!
She proved that she really cares about other and she is just talking trashy all the way "Bad talking -Good actions", in the other hand , you can see that Elena pretend to be the good girl , talking to others in a good way but at the end backstabbing Rebecca "Good talking , Bad Actions"!!! I know am alittle too harsh on Elena but come on , the last couple of episodes makes me fall into REBECCA!!!!<3
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Rebekah is THE best part of this show. My favourite character on television right now.
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I don't see much future for the Klaroline ship since Joseph is (probably) moving to The Originals and also because even though they have great chemistry Klaus has done way to much to derserve her forgivness. But I came to think about what Klaus said to her in episode 3x20:

"Perhaps one day, or a year, or even in a century, you'll turn up at my door and let me show you what the world has to offer.". Wouldn't it be awesome that in the finale of the show we see Caroline leave MF and show up at Klaus doorstep and then we see them leave together. God I'm such a fangirl...
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I was thinking they could still develop the relationship if they wanted to, albeit very slowly, with a few crossovers, and they could even have Caroline do several episodes of the Originals show in a row from time to time. I mean, she wasn't in like three episodes of TVD in a row this season, right? We would first need Caroline to break up with Tyler for a non-Klaus related reason over on TVD. I know it seems now like she can never forgive him, but the writers can trick us in to anything down the road. :) I didn't actually think they'd ever manage to successfully hook Elena and Damon up, since she and Stefan were *soulmates* and all. . . but here we are with her bangin' the other Salvatore!
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You are so right my friend. So right :D
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And also since Caroline is way more awesome than Elena, imagine what the show would be like if we had her as the main character and instead of the annoying love trianglen with the salvatore bros we'd have the villain Klaus. What the heck, throw away The Originals spinoff and give Caroline her own show instead (with Joseph ofc) :D
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So basically what they did was capture a wild tiger then sit by it's cage and prod it. Don't be surprised when it prods you back. Tyler caused this with his taunting.
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you tube (dot) com (slash)watch?v=NQvHvMVnPsM
i found this today and i though i share it here with the other Klaus fans out there,...
THAT LOOK of his that i looooove,...
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I checked it out and loved it, thanks. I totally had a fangirl moment.Joseph Morgan is such a great actor, and he totally deserves his own show.
Klaus is my favorite character on TVD, along with Rebekah and Kol, and I was really looking forward to The Originals (but not less so with Kol gone and Rebekah still not confirmed)
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"2) Why do you assume it's this thing you can pass around like a bong? What if it's just a one-hit wonder, and only a single person gets to take it? Has that not crossed your mind? Like, at all?" AWESOME! It takes a lot for me to literally laugh out loud and this did the trick. Liked your review, LOVED it when I got to this part. Thanks!
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Forgot to say this in my prev comment.

I had a good laugh when Elena asked Damon to take the cure and said "that's how much I want this". When she was convincing him her love was real, I thought she was gonna say that she would make some sacrifice, or she will do this and that for him, etc, to prove her point. But at the end, she asked HIM to take the cure FOR HER. LOL does that even make any sense? And I thought after knowing Damon for so long, she should've known well enough that he has zero issues with being a vampire.
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EXACTLY,... as i've said earlier in my comment,... in that moment i think Damon realized that she has no idea who he is and this is all the sire bond doing,...
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Those are good points, but I think it's how much Elena thought she knew Damon and how much Damon knew about himself. Damon has admitted to himself that he wanted to be human ("I miss it more than anything in the world"), and Elena sort of figured that out. She thought Damon would want to be with her until the end, we all did.
Plus, did anyone know what he meant when he said, "It's Stefan"?
Did he mean that's Stefan's dream, not his?
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It's Stefan. . . who is miserable being a vampire and would love to grow old with you.
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yes ,... I think he meant that is the dynamic of your relationship with Stefan,...
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Is it just me or was it mean of Damon to say that Stefan invited Rebekah only to make Elena jealous? This makes Stefan looks like some petty immature little boy while, in reality, is it even possible for him to NOT invite Rebekah? I mean, the girl contributed 50% in obtaining that stone and she has a huge trust issue with this whole gang. Like she said, she has even more reasons to be on that island than Elena does.
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No I doubt that Stefan invited her to make Elena jealous. He knows that Rebekah really wants it and under these last couple of episodes he has started to see things from her point of view. Showing that Rebekah may not be as bad as he previously thought (compared to what the MF-gang has done). Therefore I think he just wants to help her. Damon doesn't know all that and still think that Stefan is pissed about Elena and him so i guess that was just something he said.
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I did not love this episode, for once. (I pretty much always think they rock, but wasn't feeling this as an episode.) But, I get it, it was a transition, setting everything up and giving us all the backstory we needed. But the second the episode started with them all getting off boats in Nova Scotia, like some group of students led by their guardian, Professor Shane, I knew they were in for disaster.

On the other hand, a few of the dramatic scenes were amazing. I somehow find myself shipping Elena and Rebekah right now. They're great together. I think I felt this way once before, in the episode that involved throwing pencils at each other, stealing each other's sun rings, and doing keg stands. Those two gals have some good chemistry. Rebekah did a pretty good job of explaining how she and Elena were actually the same, and how she doesn't hate Elena and just ran her off the road to save her family. Those gals. Rawr!

I don't care about the central love triangle, but I'm actually enjoying it more and more with all of the added confusion of Elena becoming a vampire, then the realization she is sired, and now the realization that Damon does not want what she does out of "life", while Stefan does. If they're going to do this love triangle, at least now they're doing it right. For once it's unclear whom she loves more, and who loves her more/unconditionally.

And of course, I loved the whole Caroline and Klaus thing. Every bit of it. Sure, Caroline took advantage of Klaus's feelings for her to get what she wanted, but considering what she wanted was for him to heal the fatal wound he had inflicted on her, he definitely had it coming. Joseph Morgan's acting was seriously really fucking amazing! I was kind of shocked that she actually said, "I know you are in love with me," and he just sat there not denying it. Obviously, in real life, I never root for murderers to win the day, but I'll forgive Klaus over and over as long as it means he and Caroline can flirt!

I don't understand how everyone other than Damon, up until the end of this episode, was willing to trust Shane! I mean, Bonnie has known for a while now that he orchestrated those massacres, and now it seems everyone knows. How they can believe a single word he says is beyond me. And now he plans to massacre our friends, minus Bonnie and Jeremy, whom he needs. I still think that he's full of shit about the reason he really needs Jeremy. What was Jeremy's tattoo supposed to tell us? I thought it was just a map, but now it happens that Shane has known the "where" all along. So now Shane says it's a spell to free Silas? But Bonnie says (after much very careful study ;) that there's no spell there. What was the point of all that? I'm pretty sure that according to Shane's plan, none of them are meant to make it out of this alive!

Maybe Silas will use Jeremy's body when he's resurrected? Or maybe he needs the blood of a hunter for some reason? To make the cure? Or to destroy it? Do you think maybe Silas can control anyone he brings back from the dead? Now the most "powerful" humans in the Mystic Falls community, the hybrids, and hundreds or thousands of vampires, including an Original, have been killed in his name (or at least in the name of the cure). That's a lot of dangerous people he could control it they're brought back to life!

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Klaroline, yes!!
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supposedly expression does not need spells and his tattoo is needed for that,...
zombie kind of vampires perhaps?
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Concerning the review. I think you had some great insights, and I loved your notes on the cure, (Haha, puff, puff, pass). I do think this review was less funny than I was hoping for, and with even FEWER pictures than the previous two. (I didn't go back and count, I just had the sensation of not having enough visuals.) But as with the previous two reviewers, it seems everyone around here knows what they're doing, whoever is clever.
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By the way, I'm kind of hung over, so it may be that your review was actually hilarious. You know, when one doesn't have a pounding headache. :)
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Honestly I hate Elana now she should just be kilt off! I hate her
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Loved you review - as for the cure to a bonk-like thing I've had the same idea idea before but I think it's gonna be an artifact that can be used multiple times - IF it actually exist.
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Your review was sooooo much better than the episode!!! I wish I had of just read this. Great job!
- So this episode was horrible. It wasn't that it was necessarily bad so much as it was completely and utterly boring. My friend asked me to recap the episode for her because she missed it due to the storm and honestly...I ended up being the one to ENVY her for missing this episode! It' was clearly evident that it was a filler, one of those precursor episodes to move everything around like chess pieces before things really get started next week, but I almost wish I had of just waited until next week to watch both episodes together so I wouldn't have felt so supremely disappointed. I think TVD's silent sponsor is Ambien...if it isn't, it should be because this episode damn near put me to sleep and I'm a freaking insomniac.
-Any time Bonnie can molest Jeremy's chest, I'm pretty much okay. The tension between them was both cute and hilarious. Bonnie so desperately needs to get laid.
-Stop the glorification of the love triangle! I'm so tired of it. So this cure has essentially become another thing to use in the love triangle of doom. Here's the thing, Elena is no shiny prize dangling out of reach. She really isn't. I wish the Salvatore brothers would just forget about her and go onto someone else who won't spend all of her time making the same mistake that my gender has made since the beginning of time,attempting to change a man. She wants Stefan to be more like Damon and she wants Damon to be more like Stefan and it's utterly insane and no one is winning in this.
- What was the point of this episode? Did it really tell us anything that we didn't know? Shane is shady...no shizz! Damon doesn't want to take the cure...I'm sorry, that was about as surprising as finding out that the Sun will rise tomorrow morning. And I agree, this does make me think of the Sun and Moon curse all over again.
-"no honey, you don't have to worry about killing 36 innocent people because they'll come back! I swear!" Says the hallucination of his dead wife, while on the mystical "Lost" island off the coast of nowheresville, while hiding from disappearing aboriginal people with really pretty hair. "Okay" Shane just goes with this. Totally drank the koolade. There was too much Shane in this episode.
- I knew the moment Shane offered Damon sunscreen this episode was going downhill. Clearly he's been spending too much time around Bonnie and that dumb is starting to rub off.
-Speaking of dumb, freaking Gilberts. Shane says "stay together" while wearing his Indiana Jones headband with the flashlight, and five seconds later they're chilling back from the group and getting shot at by disappearing island natives.
-Why the hell did it take everyone so long to figure out that Bonnie and Jeremy were missing? They are the worst baby sitters ever, they're too busy talking about relationships and whether or not they're taking the cure. This shouldn't surprise me because this is the most self-consumed bunch of individuals ever and it is only the zillionth time they gave less than a damn about Bonnie Bennett but really? You guys are on a random island with a wonky time thing going on because it's literally night one minute and daytime two minutes later....you can't stick together?! I mean Jer and Bonnie are the key to everything...they should have had them on one of those human leashes parents use for their kids. But on the other hand Jeremy is all buff and jack , he has muscles on top of freaking muscles and established that he has the strength to lift two kegs...but he was able to be hogtied and dragged away in his sleep? I love you Jer, but your badassery just dropped a few notches. WTF?
- Of course Bonnie is related to the witch. Of course she is. Bonnie is the human plot device on this show afterall. I mean the Bennett witches must have copulated like rabbits because they're related to everybody....and I will not make a joke about the underlying message that is sending about witch people. By witch people, I mean black people.
-Again Rebekah's vulnerability outweighed her bitchiness and I didn't mind her in this episode, even though I was so over Betty and Veronica bickering while poor Stefan had to mediate between the two of them. Bex does bring out the bitchy in Elena and I kinda like that.
-I love how Tyler just waltzes into the Gilbert house like he owns the place and all but what was the real purpose of showing him at all other than letting us kow that he's still alive and a character on the show? Caroline showing up was just as ridiculous. But I did love her moments with Klaus. Klaus knows, he always knows that she's manipulating him, but he doesn't care because he loves her. I loved her analyzing him and him...JoMo can convince me of anything when his eyes are watery and he's talking in that velvety voice of his, and basically JoMo...I could have watched him the entire episode and found it satisfactory. They should really give that guy his own show and a few emmy's.....Oh right.
-Oh and another hunter is the mix. Yippee. Can we actually see our hunter be super awesome first? Ugh. This episode really bugged me. Thank God my other Thursday night television made up for it.
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here is my like,... you deserve it,... i enjoyed your cmnt eminently,... AGREED to everything,... Elena wanting to infuse the two brothers made me hate her a little bit less because women,... we have all been there,...
KLAROLINE,... what more can I say that i haven't said already a thousands time and over,... TVD i am begging you give me one kiss and i'll shut up for a long time ,...
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Hey Blue! A few of us were waiting for your comments. I had questioned whether or not it will be a new actor playing Silas or if he will embody other characters...(I want Joshua Jackson but that's neither here nor there) and another commentor made a great callout saying that Silas will most likely be 'The First' from BTV....using the dead folks we hold dear as his vessel. I really hope that's not the case....
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sorry, I inadvertently dropped the 'S' in BTV.....Buffy the Vampire Slayer....
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Good review, boring episode. I was never really on the Elena hate bandwagon, but I can say I'm really disliking vampire!Elena. I guess I'm the only one who thinks Klaus/Caroline scenes are embarrasing and I don't feel like caring for any of the characters. It's sad, really.
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good jobs keeped this way pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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My favorite parts of this episode is with Klaus and caroline, she is the only one that can bring his humanity. For the cure story, that is not going to end well... It is too easy even if they are fughting with each other, I think there is a lot more behind this...
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I don't see why everyone is bitching about Elena killing Kol. The guy was a nut job. Yes, among all the vampires who died with him, there were probably "good" ones, but leaving him alive would've caused the dead of even more people.
Not to mention that they were forced to kill him. He clearly showed that he's not going to step down and let them release that witch guy, he wanted to kill Jeremy, compelled Damon to do the job for him, and Klaus would've forced Jeremy to kill vampires anyway.
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When they release Silas and unleash hell on earth, I wish Kol would be there tell them "I told you so". I don't think he was a nut job. He had valid reasons for not wanting this to happen and preventing it with any means necessary, in a manner that our "heroes" do. Now Damon also thinks that it is not such a good idea. I bet the cure and the resurrection talk is just a lure to release Silas.
And people were bitching about killing Kol because St. Elena was so disgusted with Damon and Klaus' plan (and even Stefan's initially), yet she turns around and commits the greatest atrocity, without so much as blinking an eye.
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I thought Jeremy's tattoo was going to lead to a spell and to the place the cure is located. Bonnie said there's no spell, and Shane has known where this cave is the entire time, so....?
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Good call on the now-visible tattoo. We can add it to the list of arbitrary, unreliable magic-related plot devices on this show.

I'm actually a little worried about the recent direction of TVD, especially once the Originals spin-off happens. The moral center of the show has completely vanished. It is now populated by anti-heroes, villains, and menaces to society. Elena can no longer claim any kind of moral high ground after instigating the genocide of thousands of vampires, an act that surpasses the horrors perpetrated by any character depicted on the show so far. Seriously, have we heard of anything on this scale over the course of the show? I really can't remember any.

Are the writers really not going to address the problem here? Elena cannot be the moral heroine anymore. Or maybe we're seeing the beginnings of a new plot line that will involve Elena's transformation into a more morally ambiguous, Katherine Pierce-type character? I don't know. Maybe, at least, all this craziness will lead to Matt's realization that he should leave Mystic Falls after graduation and live a happy, human life somewhere else. God knows we all want good things to finally happen for poor Matt.
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It's true that we don't have many characters we can relate to anymore. Everyone's killed someone, everyone's a mythical creature, and their morality just seems to go through cycles of wavering between good and evil (especially Stephen and Damon). The show should really let go of some of its plot device characters (Bonnie, Jeremy, etc.) and get some fresh (human and good) blood.

I think April was supposed to be that but the majority of us just find her annoying. She didn't have a great intro or relevancy to the story. She knew Elena from a while back and her dad died. That's not much to get interested in. I mean, there's Shane, but he's a manipulative antagonist. We could always go with Matt, but it seems like he's just squeaked by with contrived excuses to justify him being a human regular - being one of Elena's exes, his sister's transformation, being Jeremy's pal, being a blood donor, etc.
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I go with rationality over morality. It's a show about vampires: there was never a didactic moral center. Just follow the characters who make the most sense within the universe of the show itself.
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It's a show about vampires on the CW. Of course it's concerned with morality. Not only that, but Elena's arc this season has often made reference to the fact that her good, moral self will react poorly to her new vampire tendencies. That was why Stefan voiced his concern about Elena flipping off her human switch if she killed someone. My gripe is not whether or not the show tries to teach me a lesson in morality every week. My gripe is that the show considered Elena a moral exemplar until 2 episodes ago, at which point it conveniently forgot.
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TVD, still beeing awesome. This was the second part bottleepisode. I wish we had one for real though. Like 40 min of talking through all the crap. Those are usually awesome and it feels like reasons and motives get so blurry now. A bottle episode would help get it all into the open and get rid of some useless baggage.

I think Shane has it harder to deal with moving on, because he "knows" death isn't final. So he never really got to deal with the death, he is thinking of ways to get around it. So temporary murder seems fine for him, works for me.

I don't really understand why Caroline was dying. Did Klaus insert werewolf blood? Arent Vampires supposed to heal unless something sticks in? And why did his blood heal her? Maybe I forgot some lore, can someone brush me up?
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Caroline was dying because Klaus is a hybrid, which means he's a vampire and a werewolf and werewolf bite can kill a vampire. And it was established in season 2 that Klaus' blood can heal werewolf bite.
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Ah so the toxin is in his mouth(above the teeth) and his blood cures... makes sense, thanks
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Well... I've commented on this previously, but now it's too much (btw, I don't know if someone already discussed it because there are over 300 comments and I'm not eager to read that much). The parallels between TVD and BTVS were quite obvious this season, some plots, some character developments, some "twists". But come on!! Don't tell me that the whole scene with Shane and his dead wife didn't have "THE FIRST" written all over it. It's so obvious that "his wife" was in fact Silas, manipulating Shane to release him, and Shane will never get his wife back. If next week they release Silas and he bleeds Damon into the well (or a seal...) in order to release Uber-vamps, and we see Silas impersonating several of the defunct characters, that'll be it for me!
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I'm so bored from this searching of "the cure".
Best moments? No doubts. Klaus/Caroline's ones!

Greetings from Italy
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I, uh, sort of gave up on this show a couple of episodes back. I just feel like it's a mess and everyone's a plot device and storylines get chewed through with manic speed. No one important ever dies (c'mon, friggin Kol was the "shocking death" that went down last ep?), permanently and without being seen again, that is. Death is just used for shock and excuse for everyone to cry and grieve and mope all the time. It's like the show just spins in place, with the only real change coming from who's banging who that week and what creature they've become. Is it just me? From what I can tell in most critical reviews no one really seems to be shouting about it having jumped the shark. Maybe these problems were always there and I only recently picked up on it?

For my two cents, I think I'd be willing to get in the game again if Jeremy and Bonnie were killed off, like for real, the love triangle was totally settled and dropped, Mystic Falls stopped having parties and balls and pageants every other episode, Katherine came into the mix as at least a semi-regular, and they decided what on earth they want to do with Klaus.

Sorry, I don't mean to just come on and bash the show. I just wish it would get its act together and stop flinging through new mythology while at the same time getting nowhere but new ships. I stopped by in hopes that it had, but apparently the only thing it's changed was the scenery. Also, I was hoping there had actually been a significant character death - but it was one of the most minor ones they could have chosen apparently.
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Personally, I think those problems were always there. The love triangle should have ENDED with Season 1. Now they are stuck repeating the same old, who Elena loves or not. I really don't care!...It's frustrating at times but I still watch the show because I like Bonnie (Kat Graham) and Rebekah.
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I like Kat Graham, whom I think is gorgeous, and the show needs as many non-white characters as it can get. My problem with Bonnie though is that she very quickly became just a plot device, just "the witch", just the person who would perform the spells they needed, and from that early point hasn't evolved out of it since. They tried for a little while when they had her get together with Jeremy and find her mom again, but she quickly went back to "Hey, we better call up Bonnie because we need something that will magically resolve this conflict". I feel like getting rid of her, and any handy witches altogether, would automatically force the writers to put in 10x the effort into developing and resolving storylines.

As far as the love triangle goes, it's unbelievable to me that just when it looked like they had *finally* resolved it and made Elena a more free-spirited, fun, and happy character they go, "Guess what, maybe it's rape!" I mean, for Christ's sake. And should that EVER be a plotline? A heroine being in a sorta/maybe rape/roofie/slave relationship and liking it? The show's always striven to be progressive and the anti-Twilight when it came to Elena's relationships with her vamp suitors (her training, Stefan always respecting her choices, her being in danger because of what she was and not the brothers, etc.) but on this it totally dropped the ball.
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Well, well, well....

I really don't understand why nobody seems to get that Shane is manipulating everyone. HOW can all these old creatures be so blind/stupid? He's manipulating all of them (even Damon - who at least knew Shane is an ass).

Damon and Elena....it just got so boring, I can't believe it. It's like watching her and Stefan - how the hell could that happen!?
Though I liked Damon acting out his lonesome-rider-move and telling Elena he never wanted to be human again. Thank you, Damon.

Anyway I don't get why every vampire wants to be human again. Must be absolutely cool to be powerless and have the possibility to grow old. And we KNOW the cure won't do that, right? "The Vampire Diaries" without any vampires would be totally unlikely (and WHY are they all thinking EVERYONE could use the cure and it's not just for one vampire to use, my goodness....like a few people already pointed out in the comments).

Loved the Klaroline-scenes and Klaus showing emotions, his tears broke my heart!

Enjoyed Rebekah's bitchiness towards Elena. Yeah, enjoyed it pretty much.

And yes, I'm going to say it again: I still miss Price and his photorecaps. Just reading is just half the fun, though this review was good, thank you Noel!
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Funny review! I completely agree, I still don't understand why Elena sees vampirism as a bad thing, considering the amount of vampires she has around her. She's at least rude.
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You're absolutely right. And I bet my soul, there are plenty of girls, who want to be turned be Damon... xD
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Plenty of girls + 1 guy (me) xD
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I’ve followed these weekly discussions for a while now – it became (along with Price’s recaps) sort of my TVD ritual and maybe it’s time for me to write something myself, since I always have so many unclassified thoughts on my mind after I watch an episode. Writing it down can actually be a good idea.
I generally have mixed feelings about Klaroline. I really liked Forwood at the beginning of their romance and they still seem quite nice together. Moreover, I know it would be pretty surprising if Caroline forgave for everything Klaus has done just like that – and almost killing her in this episode just to make a statement certainly didn’t help his case. I’m not sure if these two could ever work as a couple – but all of this doesn’t matter anymore when I see Klaus and his pure awesomeness. Maybe they will never end up together, but I definitely enjoy watching Klaus trying to charm her. And it’s a little bit sad to know that every supposedly nice move towards him made by Caroline was just a manipulation, even though she seemed to truly enjoy their time together a few episodes ago. What she did last episode was probably manipulation as well, though I can understand it as she was in a life-and-death situation. It’s just sad to think how disappointed Klaus will be if she totally rejects him next morning… and I know that Klaus is a villain here, but I can’t help liking him, he rocks as a character and it might have a lot to do with JoMo’s acting skills. He totally deserves his own show… though TVD will become much less exciting if he leaves. BTW, Tyler&Caroline should already know better and figure that even trapped Klaus can be dangerous and it’s not smart to tease him.
About the cure… First of all, I don’t like the idea of curing vampirism at all and I really hope it turns out to be next Sun-Moon curse. And I don’t get why (almost) everyone seems so eager to become mortal, fragile human beings. Just like Noel wrote, vampire’s existence in this show has never been shown as a miserable one. Okay, maybe Elena has a point in taking the cure to unsire herself, but if I were her, I would ask someone to turn me back as soon as possible. After couple of years of living in constant danger this girl should really appreciate the gift of immortality… besides, she said herself that she started to enjoy being a vampire. They all seem to be blinded by this cure thing. They believe in its existence with no hesitation, as well as its reusability. They don’t mind awakening potentially incredibly dangerous creature and they don’t care about any harm they do to get it – yes, Elena, I’m talking about your vampire genocide. Okay, maybe it’s a part of her personality changing as a vampire, but someone should at least point it out to her.
That is why I was so glad that Damon became so skeptical. After Kol’s death we really need someone who tries to be rational about all this madness. Besides, it kind of reminded me of season 1 Damon, though spiced up with his feeling of being torn. Maybe he should discuss with Elena this whole vampire-human relationship thing in a calm way before giving up on her, especially since he wanted to be with her so badly for three seasons… But he has a point, it has its bad sides in the long run and Stefan, who is willing to take the cure for his own sake, seems to be a better pairing for her, I could see her think about it when he admitted that in in the tent. So will it be Human Elena&(Human) Stefan vs. Vampire Elena&Damon? It kind of sucks that her love life depends so much on what she is as a creature, but, oh, well… whatever. I’m just wondering what Damon was doing at the end of the episode… was he just walking around or he was trying to find that well by himself?
About Shane… Ok, he is not to be trusted, now it’s official. But you know what? I kind of did feel for him when I was watching flashbacks. Not enough to justify what he did and is still doing, but just to understand what he felt year ago. He seemed to be a normal guy, who was drowning in grief and loneliness, but his morality wasn’t questionable – he rejected the idea of sacrificing plenty of innocent people. Too bad that it was so easy to manipulate him into sort of justifying it, but, well… It’s not so simple to question things said by the ones we love and trust the most. Although it’s quite possible that it wasn’t even his wife, just some trick done by Silas. And as much as I’m not Shane’s biggest fan right now, I can sympathise with his past self.
I’m really curious what this Silas guy will turn out to be like. I’m not really into resurrecting the dead (it’s even crazier than the cure for vampirism. And as a result we would probably get some wicked zombie-like creatures instead of real people the way they were, because things can’t be so simple, can they?), but I wouldn’t mind bringing Kol back… They killed him just when I started to like him! And what about this Originals show, it should include all of them… or change the title to “One Original, whose whole family was killed off”.
I keep waiting for Elijah to show up. And maybe Katherine, it would be awesome.
And am I forgetting something, or we just met first white witch (Shane’s wife) in TVD?
On a different note – quite a good review, I really enjoyed it, though obviously I will never stop missing Price’s recaps.
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First white witch? Did you just sleep through Season 3 with Esther?
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Oh, you’re right, my mistake. It somehow temporarily slipped my mind. Well, let’s say first normal, non-original white witch... unless I’m forgetting something again.
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So glad you chimed in! You took the words right out of my mouth: "I'm not sure if these two could ever work as a couple but all of this doesn't matter anymore when I see Klaus and his pure awesomeness."

I 100% agree with you on Klaus and Caroline. At first I was like WTF with the two of them (it totally came out of nowhere), but watching the two of them is so electric that I find myself fangirling out with Klaroline. You know that relationship is doomed and bound to be the two of them fighting like cats and dogs, but it also would have some amazing passion. REALLY hoping for at least one good kiss between them someday!

And Klaus effing rocks. Just wish there were more scenes with him instead of just a few minutes each episode!
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here is my like,... AGREED,...
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Good Review though, no photo captions, but really fun still somehow. Thumbs up!
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So, just a hunch because I wasn't born yesterday - Silas is the one pretending to be Shane's wife in the vision just so he could get free? That's what they're doing or are the TVD writers just this incredibly lazy and sucky?
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Nice review! And thank you for noticing that maybe only one can be cured, especially since so many vampires want to.
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Where are the funny (but true) captions?!
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Klaus and Rebekka are the best.
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ok so the ridiculousness of the info we got from this episode just hit me unless i'm spacing on something. how could the hunter's mark be triggered by killing vampires if the hunters were created to find and kill silas, silas predates vampires. furthermore, when the hunters were first made they had their full marks. also what year was silas around nova scotia cause that was only discovered like 1000AD by vikings and they didn't stick around, so unless silas was a native canadian or a viking i'm not sure what he was doing. than again this little hunters as the hired guns against silas was a story of shane's so it might all be bullshit. i suppose it is foolish of me to try and sort of TVD logic and completely pointless to try and comprehend their timelines, but this just hit me and i figured i'd throw it out there for someone else to try and figure out.
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he said the hunters were created centuries later,...
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I pretty much love rebekka now. when she was explaining to stephan how she wasnt the bad guy since all the bad things she did they would have done it too to protect their loved ones. Yet elena kills an original and thousands of other innocent vampires to protect jeremy and no one bats an eyelash.

Oh and can i say how much i cant stand elena. It's like own up to your shit girl. you do pretty crummy things too. It's okay for you to sleep with damon 5 SECONDS after breaking up with stephan, but you wanna be a sour puss because he slept with rebekka, who he has known way longer than you btw!

That's why I like klaus. He's a straight forward kind of guy. He's a villain, he knows it. He doesnt pretend that the stuff he does is in order to save or protect anybody other than himself. He's the kind of guy that would impale the girl he supposedly loves and leave her dying in a heap at his feet to prove a point. Somehow i respect that. (caroline was being way too sassy mouthin' off to him though, like obviously he was already in a bad mood grl, smh)
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“You know I can hear you, right?” “You know I don’t care, right?”
“What about me?” “You have a nice behind.”

Lol, Rebekah.

So nice having Caroline back, and having her snappy at Klaus, even if it ended with her being stabbed and bitten. “Now that was worth the calories.” Ha. Of course, now I’m stuck going “Poor Caroline” like I’ve done so often in the past.

Haha, Rebekah just saved Elena’s life. Seriously, though, does anyone like Elena more than they like Rebekah? I doubt it.

I’m glad they addressed Damon’s feelings on being human considering that was a pretty big revelation in The Descent when he confessed to missing it more than anything. I was wondering when that would come up considering it’s an important issue with the impending cure. Apparently his mind has changed a bit since then. :p I don’t blame him, though. All these vampires wanting to become human are just silly!

Aww, a heartfelt conversation with Caroline on her deathbed. Despite her Damon hate, I really do love this girl. If she can be that way with Klaus, though, there’s no reason she can’t be the same way with Damon. Or at least, she should stop hating him so much. Either way, I love all of the scenes between Caroline and Klaus. They’re always interesting, whether it’s a negative interaction or a positive one.

All of this Silas stuff is getting a bit convoluted but it’s still intriguing. Hopefully it’s not stretched out past next week’s episode. Shane mentioned needing another sacrifice, so does that mean he’s going to kill all of the hunters (since apparently Jeremy’s not the only one there)? I guess we’ll find out soon enough. I’m ready for Shane to die and for Bonnie to go off the rails.
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I didn't care for this episode.

Damon's actions seemed very bi-polar, verses his usual coolness.

I swear, if Elena jumps ship because she had an arguement with Damon I'm going to hate her forever, which sucks because I just starting to like her.. finally. Which reminds me, when she broke up with Stefan didn't she say that she liked being a vampire now????

I like Stefan and Rebekeh.

And I'm going to call it now. Damon is totally going to get killed by Jeremy. I can just see it coming. Some stupid thing that Shane planned, where an immortal's death gives life to the dead or some mumbo jumbo. And his death, (and maybe others) are the final sacrifice that releases Silas, which would explain why there's no spell.

But then the day gets saved by Katherine!!!!
No? Too soon?
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Wait, what am I missing? I must've been sleeping during some part of the episode or something... There is no spell to release Silas? How and when did they figure that out? How do you release him then? And what the heck is the purpose of the tattoo then?
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it is another kind of magic,... expression does not need spells,...
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I like your theory, I'm really expecting Damon to get killed, and that comes from a Delena fan.
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Funnily enough I'm expecting Jeremy to bite the bullet. When Bonnie said that she couldn't see a spell on the tattoos I figure that maybe they just mark him out as the final sacrifice/ It will be interesting to see which way it goes.
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Damon IS and HAS been bi-polar,... most people in TVD are,...
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No mention of Rebekah's epic cut down on Elena OR how right she was?!
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Ok you must have been zoning out on all four seasons of this series if you cant remember the reasons that stefan and others don't want to be a vampire. He hates that he has no control over his need for blood and to kill people. He's a good person and being a vampire turns him into a ripper. Also for other vampires theres lots of reason like never having kids, never growing old, never being able to live in a place for to long without someone noticing ur not growing older, even just not being able to get to close to someone for fear of hurting them.

Also you completely skated over everything that actually happened in the episode. Like Jeremy being kidnapped, bonnie being lured away from the group by the guy working with Shane and shane screwing over everyone.Not to mention the fact that there has to be a 3 sacrifice for Silas to be able to bring people back from the dead
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I have to ask: growing old is some sweet advantage of being human? I haven´t ever noticed that someone wants that..
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The whole cure plot is Silas's way to be resurrected. He's using the professor. That much is obvious. We've been shown time and time again not to trust 'ghosts' (remember the Vicky incident when she was being manipulated by a great big bad from the beyond?). Of COURSE the third sacrifice would be the hunters. Also, I'm pretty sure they're the fourth mystery group since their entire purpose for being created (according to the lore from this episode) is to bring back Silas, give him the cure, and kill him! In that case, of course Silas would make sure that one of the sacrifices necessary for Shane to make sure happens is that all five hunters get killed! I'm guessing that the hunters are the ones who saved Jeremy as he is one of them, and they are obviously in the forest as seen by the one taking down Damon. It also makes total sense that they are the fourth mystery group. Although how did they compel that one guy who tried to steal the headstone? I guess they could have captured and tortured a vampire to do it.

Honestly, I don't want Klaus to die. Yeah, he has done some seriously horrible things, but most of that was in the name of protecting the ones he loves even if he tries to put on a facade that he's just bored or evil or doesn't care. He does. That much is obvious.

I just have to point out yet again how selfish Elena is. She assumes that Damon should take the cure to be with her like she is the best prize in the world. Every episode I find I hate her more and more for thinking she is the best thing out there. She had the same attitude in the books and definitely makes me consider her an antihero. She's relatively useless, just like Rebekah said. The only redeeming thing she did in this episode was set aside her petty bitch fit to give Rebekah the stake and bring them together. She seems to do this randomly ever few episodes where she stops being a self-obsessed character and actually shows some wisdom for all of two seconds. Bravo to her on that point but I still hate her.
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thank you, you said that so perfectly. I totally agree with your analysis of elena. it's like they throw those random moments of her being decent in just so they can claim she is a good person and great friend and try and convince us all that it makes sense everyone kisses her ass and is always sacrificing themselves and others for her benefit.
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I don't understand why everyone hates on Elena. She seems to be the only character who has gone out of her way to help, sometimes even sacrifice herself, for every single character (Minus the originals although she did for Elijah and the only reason Rebeka is pissed at her is because Elena pulled one over on her one time. Its not like Rebeka would have really let them kill Klaus when Michael was there. She's proven that over and over again. Plus Elena didn't Kill Rebeka she only daggered her for a little while and she probably wouldn't have left her like that if Rebeka wasn't a crazy psycho who from then on would try and ACTUALLY kill her any time she could) Its so annoying that everyone hates on Elena when in the show she's the most love character.
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LOL at Elena didnt kill Rebekah but just daggered her for a while. I'm pretty sure it was because that was the only way she knew/had access to to kill an Original at the time. Not to mention Rebekah was just starting to open up to Elena and try to see elena as a friend i.e. she was asking E to help put on the necklace or sth and she got a dagger in the back. Yeah sure it was very nice of Elena.
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Are you kidding? I have tried to like Elena and at some moments I do (especially when Damon pushes her in a river) but she's a hypocrite! The entire series she claims that she wants to protect her friends and yet she has no problem with Stefan killing other people's friends or killing AN ENTIRE BLOODLINE OF VAMPIRES herself! She is the only character who everybody else has gone out of their way to protect and it needs to end. I'm sorry but she's not the only character who sacrifices herself for others, are you for real? JENNA DIED TO SAVE HER. Stefan, Caroline, Bonnie, Jeremy, they all sacrificed themselves for Elena's sake. Her very existence is what put Jeremy in danger. Her fickleness with the brothers is what caused a lot of problems!
Most recently, I just hate her because she has literally stabbed Rebekah in the back for no apparent reason. Rebekah drove her off a bridge to save herself and her family. Not only would have Elena done the same but Elena literally chose to die in that moment.
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Sorry, pressed too early. Wrap up: Elena is the main character and yes, she is the force behind the show and we have to endure her, but she's insufferable, stubborn, not very bright and obnoxiously selfish. Just last episode I was thinking how much she is just a plot device and not a real character. Dobrev is flawless and does such a good job working with what she has but we all know Elena is nothing more than an entity and she needs to be replaced with Katherine ASAP.
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She is just plain annoying for me. I guess if you dont feel it, you dont feel it :D I had/have the same thing with Stefan. A lot of people around here didnt like him after turning back from his Ripper-stage. I have always rooted for him for some reason but I usually find myself alone in that.
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would you please kindly explain how Elena has sacrificed herself for others ?
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Sorry just looked at this. Does no one remember that she was going to give herself over to Klaus to save everyone she loved. To save Klaus from coming to mystic falls and using Bonnie, Caroline and Tyler in the sacrifice. The only reason she stopped was because Damon and stefan wouldn't let her. Also just because Rebecca was trying to save her family when she drove elena AND MATT off a bridge doesn't make it ok. Rebecca is evil she has killed tons of people just like all her family. Yes, Elena killed Rebecca's brothers but the first time they were all just trying to kill Klaus and it's not like that entire family didn't have it coming.Their own mother said it best, she made them vampires, she didn't make them killers. And the second time Kol wasn't going to stop until they killed him, he had already tried killing Jeremy, Bonnie and Elena. Also it is not Elena's fault that she is the doppelgänger and because of that it put other peoples lives in jeopardy. Also how does Elena's existence put Jeremy in danger? And she knew that Rebecca couldn't be killed when she daggered her she knew it would just incapacitate her for a while and she didn't feel great about doing it to her. She just knew it was necessary so that they could try and kill Klaus. Another thing she was never ok with stefan or Damon killing anyone, if anything she tried to stop it as much as possible. Oh and she sacrificed herself again for Caroline when evil Alaric was holding her at the school and she tried to save Damon and Stefan and even Klaus by putting a knife to her neck to stop Alaric from killing them. And last but not least she never asks people to sacrifice themselves for her and sometimes goes to extremes to stop them from doing it because she doesn't want others to get hurt. Before Elena became a vampire and even now she's never really hurt someone that didn't deserve it or because of self defense. She's a good person and everyone in the show but Psycho Rebecca sees that i don't get y no one else does
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I don't think Elena is evil,... I am just tired of her righteous act,... that innocent look of hers,... she is far from being innocent,... she is as bad as everyone else,... except Caroline who is a darling,... ;)))
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and also I get why Rebekah wants the Cure and be normal, but how would it help Stefan ? He said something about not feeling the guilt of what he has done, but wouldn't it be worse ? Isn't the humanity he has left that makes him "feel", so if he becomes human again, that guilt would be worse, right ? or would the Cure magically erase his past ?

Doesn't make any sense to me. But if you folks are right about its non existence, we wouldn't have to worry about that ;) And I really hope you are right about that point. I also think Silas is manipulating Prof. Atticus(!) Shane, it's like a piece of the puzzle is still missing and I really hope we'll get to it soon.
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Thank you both, it makes sense that way for Stefan, it was just the way he said it, about the guilt that made me a little bit confused.
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He would have to live with his guilt both ways unless he turns off his humanity, which he doesnt want to do because he will then kill even more people. And become human again at least will prevent him from killing people (unless he drink n drive or decide to become a terrorist of course) Being a vampire gives him a risk of going off the rail some day.
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Stefan wants the cure because he hates being a slave to the blood and death of being a vampire and worrying if he might go off on another ripper bend, And right now hes living with all the guilt the same way he would if he becomes human. He let all his humanity back in again last season.

Also Im not sure about everyone thinking the cure is non existent because we didn't hear about the cure from shane, we heard it from Rebeka who heard it from one of the Five.
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But if the Cure is real it will cancell the purpose of the show being about vampires, no ? (ok not everyone of them is going to take it anyway, but still)
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Does anyone else think that the 3rd massacre is the 5 Hunters ? The thought just hit me when Damon said "You're one of the Five"
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But it needs to be 12 that die, but who knows it could be different with the hunters.
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Five hunters plus Bonnie, Jeremy, Elena, Damon, Rebecca, Stefan... did I miss anyone? Shane himself makes 12 if he's expecting Silas to resurrect them, or the new mystery witch...
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Wow what a great review, of course no one can replace price and I was totally thinking of him when shane cut the palm of his hand, somewhere out there I know price was annoyed.

Other than that I still don't get why everyone well except damon, buy this stupid silas story , so you bled a lot and saw your dead wife sure that sounds credible that's why you should probably plan a bunch of massacres because this plan doesn't sound crazy at all.

Also I completely agree with your review about being a vampire isn't that horrible on this show which is something I noticed too being a buffy fan , the vampires on buffy had to deal with a lot more crappy consequences like sun light, No reflection , no compulsion, no conscience, and they were pretty much considered a low life because there was a lot more evil stronger beings than them , and I mean angel couldn't even have had sex with buffy because of his curse, counting all that their existence wasn't all that glamorous as it is on TVD. So I really don't get the all cure plot, I mean the show's called the vampire diaries for a reason.



I still think it was great episode and a nice change of pace away from mystic falls it had some horror movie potential considering almost everyone are vampires, and my new favorite blonde is Rebekah she was really killing it this episode , sorry caroline but you've been demoted.

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Haha I grimaced as well when he cut his palm thinking of Price
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Damon knows how the mind-game works and maybe he had been playing it over the decades too. Besides he is kind of bad-a$$ himself so it takes one to know one fits perfectly for him. And he is realistic too, he likes living in a fantasy world but keeping it balance with the reality around him and mold accordingly to adjust to the situation. That's how I see him and that is why he can see through the blind nut-jobs like professor.
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he's not kind of a bad-a$$ is a total bad-a$$ :)
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Haha. Well I was just trying to be nice. ;)
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I love how Tyler probably couldn't pass his high school chemistry class (since that would mean actually attending high school and all), but that he can figure out exactly how the cure is going to work and affect blood lines...
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Great recap, just one thing. I need MORE!!! It's not long enough…But other than that, I thought it was great! Just the right balance of humor and plot-explaination! Okay, notes/question time!
-That's crossed my mind before, the whole 'what if only one person gets to take the cure?' thing. I bet you it's going to be someone who doesn't actually want it! Or better yet, someone steals it and takes it themselves, thereby ridding everyone of the chance to take it. And Klaus's search for revenge leads him to New Orleans!! Brilliant! LOL, 'magic is tricky shit like that.' Hilarious.
-Klaus being evil is always fun. Scratch that, ANYONE being evil is fun! (Does that sound as weird as I think it does?)
-Haha. Rebekah is great. She's lonely, sad, and comes from a screwed-up family, but she's great.
-It was SO funny that Bonnie was just standing there next to a shirtless Jeremy and taking pictures of his bare chest. I cackled my way through that scene! 'Believe me, if there was another way to do this, I would.' No you wouldn't, Bonnie. Don't lie to me.
-I was actually wondering why Bennet witches were so powerful, perhaps a old-timey connection is the explanation? (Yeah right!)
-He IS a professor, after all!

Final notes:
-Hilarious that Rebekah was so scared of the dark forest, but if you ask me, she was just trying to get another shirtless hug out of Stefan. Poor girl.
-So Jeremy got kidnapped, because OF COURSE Jeremy got kidnapped. That's the town past time, right? Screw baseball!
-Was anyone else concerned about Bonnie's tracking spell? It was pretty much a giant fire going through a heavily wooded forest. Shame on you, Bonnie. Don't start fires.
-Damon got kidnapped too, town past time and all that, you gotta have at least two kidnappings per episode…so on and so forth. It's in the contract, just look it up.
-Still mad about all the attitude the Originals are getting for trying to protect the people they love. Apparently, the Originals trying to protect people they care about is getting in the way of everyone else doing the exact same thing, and who gets mad-yelled at? The Originals. Obviously.
-Tyler and Caroline were good to see again, though I missed my weekly dose of mashed potatoes, and they're plot line was pretty dull.
-Honestly, the Original's flashbacks were more fun than the ones we got this week. We were all alive in 2009, guys. Going back one year is NOT interesting. Jeez.

Anyway, good episode they even mentioned the fact that Carol died!
Things that weren't in it that I sorta (or not at all) missed:
-Haley
-Katherine
-Elijah
-Kol (RIP Miss u buddy!)
-April (Didn't miss you, sorry)
-Liz Forbes
-New Mayor Guy (how much do you want to bet he and Liz are a thing???)
-Mysterious 'fourth team'
-Team Kalijah scenes
-Team Klaroline scenes
-The SWORD!!!! (The metal one) Won't they need that in Nova Scotia?
-JerHulk (Missed u guy!)

Anything I missed? Fill in below please! BYE!!!!!
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Seeing the flaming track going into the perfect forest did made me say "Good job witch, you burning entire forest, why not using the map like you did before."

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Yeah. Just have someone drip blood on a map. Make a giant blotch and ruin a perfectly good map. :) "Hmm…forest, or map? Forest or map? FOREST!!" - Bonnie
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#JERHULK
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He needs to be in every episode now. Can't have an ep without him… Just won't be the same w/o JerHulk.
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Urgh, can't believe I forgot this too. I think that other group of people Shane has to orchestrate the massacre of is Hunters. There are already two on the island, no? What if there are more?
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AND MATT!!! Duh. I suppose I did sorta mention that above though…anyway. Can't believe I forgot my mashed potato friend!! Sorry Bro!
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This was an ok episode IMO, kinda remembered me of Lost with the misterious island and the crazy dead people (and Ian Somerhalder, of course).

I really hope this cure thing won't happen. Probably all psycho Professor will get to do is wake up a big bad for the next season.
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ugghh I'm so mad at how short the Klaroline scenes were damn it. And I'm getting tired of Caroline being a bitch to Klaus half the time, but when they are alone together they actually have a really good time, at least she admitted that. But I'm gonna lose it on these writers if they make their little exchange just her manipulating him again.
As for Elena I have never hated her more, but I will be happy if this "friendship" with Rebekah works out.
I still want Kol back. And I miss Elijah only one more episode until he's back though woohhhooo
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Im pretty sure she was manipulating Klaus and she has plenty of reasons to hate him.
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