The Vampire Diaries: Parents Just Don't Understand (PHOTO RECAP)

So how's your family? Have you talked to them lately? Is everyone doing okay, or is there a chance they've all been metaphorically daggered with metaphorical white oak ash-encrusted daggers and metaphorically banished to coffins for the greater part of a thousand years? Who knows, every family is different. Well, if you were to ask all of the citizens of Mystic Falls how THEIR families are doing, you'd hear this really loud chorus of "EFFFFFFED."

The Vampire Diaries needs to change its name to Family Matters (has that name been taken yet?), because "Bringing Out the Dead" was ALL about family. In fact, it could be argued that most of this entire season has been about family in on way or another, and that's pretty significant considering TVD is a show that was originally about a love triangle. Now it's about brothers and daughters and mothers and sisters and gay dads and alcoholic guardians and orphans. In a way, it's nice to know that no matter how outrageously incredible (in the original sense) the storylines get, it all comes down to how annoying our families can be. Fictional monsters: They're just like us!

That's a long way of saying this was a solid episode. Tons of good stuff. Almost TOO MUCH good stuff? Like, maybe I missed some of the good stuff because there was good stuff that accidentally slipped between my couch cushions or something? It's all right, I'll find it later. But let's jump in on what we got!

We began right where the last episode left off: A suspiciously bewigged Elijah wiping the sleep from his eyes while quietly assessing Klaus's decor. It didn't take Elijah long before he realized Klaus wasn't actually the person who woke him up.

And then a full-on Original Vampire slap-'n-push BATTLE broke out!

And it just kept going!

Pretty intense for a cold open! Plus, hey new Original! Elijah called him "Kol," but somebody should wake him up and tell him his name is spelled wrong. Anyway, yup. Handsome.

Over at the Gilbert house Alaric was dragging himself around the kitchen just having a typical morning.

There was this weird sexual tension moment where Alaric sort of bragged about drunk dialing Meredith in the middle of the night and Elena just giggled. I don't know. Is anybody at all worried about Alaric's life lately? And I'm not even talking about how he gets totally stabbed later. I'm talkin' mental health. I feel like he's two skipped showers away from shouting at street signs and sleeping in the park.

Oh hey remember that murder mystery from a few episodes back? That came up in this episode in a BIG way, and it was awesome. It started when Sheriff Forbes swung by the Gilberts' place to, you know, get them involved in the investigation.

It turned out the murder weapon used to kill the Medical Examiner was an old Gilbert family stake taken from any one of their apparently hundreds of weapons stockpiles around town.

Oh, and also, the only fingerprints found on it were ELENA'S.

So obviously it was like, well, she has at least ONE doppelganger out there. What's Katherine been up to? But instead this tidbit was dropped IMMEDIATELY and Katherine's name wasn't even brought up. Instead Elena and Alaric immediately started thinking Meredith. I mean, fair enough, that lady's intensity isn't doing her any favors, but still. Brainstorm a little harder, guys?

Meanwhile out in some deserted field, Elijah had a secret meeting with Damon who'd apparently left a note in his pocket before undaggering him.

Here's what it said:

Damon figured Elijah would be pretty stoked to help kill Klaus, but NOPE. For some bizarre reason Elijah was reluctant to betray his brother. Who could've foreseen that?

Meanwhile Stefan brought Bonnie and Abby to that secret cave system under the Lockwood Estate because THAT's where Damon had hidden the fourth coffin. It was a clever move because not only were vampires unable to enter the cave, but also production could re-use the expensive papier-maché set.

I have to say, after being somewhat underwhelmed by Bonnie's mom in the last episode, she REALLY grew on me in this episode. Especially when she gave the entire cave the side-eye.

She just looked so over it and I could relate. We already KNEW what was in that coffin: Snickers, all different sizes of Snickers, at least $175 worth. (P.S. I count at least EIGHT unlit candles in this picture so it was definitely a Bennett operation through and through.)

Meanwhile at the world's most dimly lit hospital, Caroline arrived to pick up her dad and had a weird run-in with Meredith.

The weirdest part was how frank the conversation was. Meredith was immediately upfront about feeding vampire blood to humans, the fact that she knew Caroline was a vampire, and the idea that she personally keeps tabs on all vampires in town. And to top it off she gave Caroline a bit of on-the-spot psychiatry by pointing out that Caroline's dad was basically bigoted against his own daughter. Just a perfectly normal conversation, in other words.

Anyway, things got creepy when Meredith informed Caroline she'd discharged Caroline's father the night before, then when Caroline called him she heard his ringtone coming from the supply closet.

First of all, wasn't it hilarious that a man could lay dying in a hospital's SUPPLY CLOSET for over 10 hours and nobody noticed? Does Mystic Falls Hospital even practice medicine anymore? Does Meredith just stand in the parking lot with syringes full of vampire blood? But second of all: Poor Caroline!

Luckily Elena was hilariously blasé about the whole thing. To paraphrase, "Dude died with vampire blood in his system. He'll turn. Let's get smoothies."

For a second there I got SUPER excited about this development, mostly because I've hated this plotline so much so far. Would Bill Forbes be forced to become the very thing he hates most? That could've been a really interesting plotline! But nope. Ugh. I am gonna rant about this so much in a second! (Fair warning.)

Anyway... Ladies!

At the Salvatore mansion Damon was just chillin' in Stefan's room helping him pick out clothes even though they both clearly hated each other a ton and everything was tense as heck.

The subtext of the whole scene was YOU KISSED MY LADY. It was gonna be a long night.

Back at the hospital, Caroline was doing her best to help her father through a rough transition that she herself had been forced into. Great daughter, right?

This guy. So Bill didn't want to become a vampire because as he explained later to Caroline, he loves her but it's against his belief system to be a vampire. He begrudgingly admitted that she's still human, but he clearly held himself to a higher standard. It's not said outright, but he was talking like a religious man, in this case it's his religion to be anti-vampire and ain't nothing gonna change that. This would've been a great opportunity for TVD to show someone actually breaking through their own dogma in order to follow their heart, and, you know, be a good father (or maybe he could've attempted to change the vampire community from within). But nope! He just plain died in a way that suggested his beliefs were noble. Now if we're being real, a blood-sucking demon isn't the most ideal thing to be. Fair enough. But in the world of Mystic Falls, a huge array of monsters exists and many of these creatures are genuinely good and decent. So we know Bill Forbes is a bigot for viewing them in black or white terms yet the show allows him to have his noble religious beliefs even though they're detrimental to his family.

Honestly, the gay bigot dad plotline has been infuriating from the get-go. I just don't believe that MAYOR LOCKWOOD of all people would be accepting of monsters but a homosexual man wouldn't. Sorry if that sounds like reverse bigotry, but my highly biased anecdotal evidence is 100% sound: Openly gay people tend to have more empathy for outsiders. So for this show (and its presumably very gay writing staff) to make its only gay character a hypocritical zealot is just straight-up offensive. And did you notice how they also charmingly discredited Bill's same-sex relationship by saying he didn't even want to say goodbye to the person he'd been sharing his life with? Gross, TVD.

And it's simply not an acceptable excuse to say that these characterizations are specific to Bill Forbes only and not a statement on gay culture. For one thing he's been written too simplistically for this character to seem like anything approaching a real person. (And weren't his methods to "cure" Caroline such Level 1 brainstorming? Talk about a missed creative opportunity.) But this excuse is also not gonna fly in an age where gay TV characters exist in smaller percentage than actual gay people do in the population. You can't leapfrog the part where gay people are written as normal citizens and jump immediately back into gay villainy. Sorry, I know it's 2012, but too many shows are doing this and it's regression and it's my job to remind everyone that you're suddenly back in Celluloid Closet territory here. Cool it with the gay villains.

Beyond these things, however, is the biggest problem: Caroline is the best character and giving her dad such a terrible storyline and an inglorious death also sells Caroline short. We deserved better, she deserved better, and Bill Forbes deserved better. Nobody deserved this ret-conned abomination who sullied an otherwise stellar Season 3. Moral of the story: If you're gonna tackle some seriously tricky subjectmatter, then actually tackle it. Take the time and be smart about it, otherwise you're just going to come across as dumb and lazy as this plotline was.

Okay sorry, I'm done talking about gay stereotypes. Let's have an all-handsome-male dinner party!

This was a pretty great series of scenes: Just two pairs of bros chattin' about what it's like to be in a vampire brotherhood. Klaus and Damon were on their best behavior, but Stefan was mostly just:

He was being kind of a jerk! Meanwhile Damon was trying to send secret signals to Elijah that they're totally still secret BFFs right?

And Stefan was trying to get Elijah mad about what Klaus had done to their mother.

It was great how Damon was trying to keep Stefan in line, but especially when he reminded Stefan that HE HAD EATEN THEIR DAD. So reminding Klaus that he'd killed his own mother was definitely a glass house situation.

Back at Caroline's house she was chillin' on her front porch while her dad was inside, I guess, going over paperwork with Sheriff Forbes? I figure dying requires a lot of paperwork so the least he could've done was fill out some of the forms before he kicked it. Anyway, Caroline and Elena's scene was pretty heartbreaking. (Although it was pretty audacious when Elena told Caroline she couldn't force her father to drink blood because "choice is all he has." Um, tell it to Jeremy, lady.) But yeah, in the most poignant moment Caroline asked Elena what it's like to lose a father but didn't seem very cheered by Elena's sad explanations.

Elena was still pretty sweet though. She's a really good friend at the end of the day.

Oh hey, Matt! It was actually a nice surprise when Matt showed up to help keep Caroline company. For one thing it was like, "Oh yeah, Matt's still on the show." But also he's a good dude and Caroline's been going through a rough patch lately and he's definitely the human being version of comfort food, you know?

Back at Klaus's joint, Elijah told a very relevant and informational story about a familiar face.

The original Petrova! Yep, both Klaus and Elijah had fought over her back when they were human and their witch mother solved the dispute by making their whole family drink the girl's blood in order to become vampires. So that clears up the connection of the doppelgangers to the Originals, but it also means we'll be seeing a third Dobrev character very soon, at least in flashbacks. Oh and her name was Tatia because why not?

And yes, this revelation was very much history repeating.

Back at the cave (dang, had they been in there all day?) Bonnie and Abby were giving it their best shot, but Bonnie was not feeling it.

But apparently losing one's powers can be resolved by having a hyper emotional conversation about motherhood and regret. Suddenly Abby was back in business!

And then CLICK! The coffin made a noise without opening all the way. Bonnie could practically SMELL the delicious nougat.

Wasn't it weird how she ran off to go text Damon about almost getting the spell to work? So then obviously the coffin suddenly busted right open when Abby was alone. Why wouldn't it?

Congratulations, Abby! Enjoy those Snickers! You earned 'em!

Oh and this was scary: Elena and Matt returned to her house to find the power was out and the kitchen had been mussed.

Suspecting foul play, the two did what any smart person would do: They did not exit the house nor call the police but instead grabbed large knives and followed the bloody hand prints. To be fair, this sort of thing is practically Elena's day job, so it probably wasn't a big deal for her.

And then... OH NO!

Alaric had been stabbed ALL UP AND DOWN. Did I mention I love this plotline so much? That's the THIRD slasher victim so far! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a murder mystery on our hands!

Because Alaric was so close to death and his ring only resurrects him if he's killed by a supernatural creature, Elena suddenly knew what had to happen.

And that was it! Elena straight-up murdered her roommate/teacher/uncle/stepfather/friend/guardian!

Back at the handsome party, Klaus offered a deal to Stefan. In exchange for that fourth coffin he'd offer Elena protection for the rest of her natural life. It made sense: Her survival was intertwined with his, both for her hybrid-creating blood and the fact that her bloodline would continue producing doppelgangers. Unfortunately, Stefan is just a rascal!

Whoops, deal's off! Then Klaus was mad.

Meanwhile Caroline made one last effort to get her dad to see the light. No dice.

Then it was time for dessert and that's when we realized Elijah really WAS interested in betraying Klaus.

Elijah had undaggered his two other brothers!

And this one was awesome. Why didn't Klaus change HIS clothes while he was in the casket? Sorry dude. Strictly Ren Faire for you.

Rebekah's back! This was the best. I missed her! She immediately got to stabbin' Klaus a ton.

Oh then Bill died. Good riddance.

I mean, as always Candice Accola was A+ in the acting department but it all would've been better if this plotline wasn't awful. She just watched HER FATHER pass away but it felt like some tacked-on D-plot about some guy we never cared about even once. Just a bummer and a wasted opportunity.

So while Elena and Matt waited for Alaric to resurrect, they did NOT want to throw their backs out by putting him on a bed or anything. Probably just staying practical.

Once again, Matt was a champ friend-wise.

Then Alaric came back! Guess that ring still had a bit of go-go juice left in it, after all.

Meanwhile in the middle of some forest Stefan once again recognized that Damon had saved his life despite Stefan being a professional jerk all the time.

And Damon was like, "I'm only saving you because Elena would want me to," which MIGHT be overestimating Elena's affections for Stefan lately, but it's still a nice gesture.

And then, in a moment that's sort of momentous for Season 3, Stefan made a startling admission:

And Damon was like, "Ditto."

So it was definitely out in the open: Both bros liked Elena. In a weird way Stefan even sort of seemed cool with it. It's probably the beginning of a long journey back to winning her over again.

Then in the caves they came across a couple of witches who'd been eating Snickers all day.

Damon seemed SO MAD that Bonnie and Abby had eaten all the Snickers, especially since he'd gone to all the trouble of stealing the coffin and hiding it in the first place. Personally I'm just glad that after several episodes of guessing what was inside the fourth coffin, nobody spoiled it for me and my #1 guess was true. The fourth coffin contained $175 worth of Snickers bars and that's why Klaus wanted it so bad. Sorry Klaus, your loss is the Bennett ladies' (very delicious) gain!

Klaus's bad times just kept on coming because back at the house his siblings were SO MAD at him for having killed their mother. Rebekah was openly plotting to murder Elena (for stabbing her and leaving her face down in a basement wearing a $10 dress) and the other brothers were gearing up to dagger Klaus in retribution for their forced slumber.

Cue deus ex machina:

Their mother wasn't dead at all! Klaus had been keeping secrets, it seemed! Suddenly the siblings weren't mad anymore and everyone seemed pretty stoked that the Original mischiefmaker had returned to make mischief. Well, everyone was stoked except Klaus, that is.

Boom! It's unclear how they'll all feel when they find out Klaus murdered their father, but still. What a family reunion! Too bad they're all so unattractive. Very unsightly, those Originals.

So hey, let's chat about this episode's best part: The MURDERS! I LOVE this plotline so much, it's like an effed up Agatha Christie novel or something. So:

Elena seemed 100% positive that Meredith was the killer, but Sheriff Forbes assured her that Meredith was busy around the time Alaric got attacked. Since neither Bill nor Alaric seemed to remember who attacked them, it really opens up the candidates. My immediate suspicion was that Katherine's the killer (or maybe this Tatia lady), since "Elena's" fingerprints were found on the stake, plus all the victims were members of the Anti-Vampire Council (though that could be misdirection). But if it's not a Petrova, then I think it's one of the more peripheral characters who'd been compelled into doing it. Matt, Jeremy, Mayor Lockwood, Sheriff Forbes: Any of them could've done it without knowing it, right? Caroline suggested that Tyler could've been forced into it via his sire bond to Klaus, but I don't know. That doesn't feel right either. So yeah, I'm going with Katherine, or maybe Matt compelled by Katherine.

Okay bye!

 

QUESTIONS:

... Who's behind the killings?

... Which Original were you most excited to see undaggered?

... Is Stefan about to fight for Elena's heart again?

... Do you think Abby and Bonnie threw up most of the Snickers afterward?

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LOL - I found myself picking up that weird vibe between Ric and Elena in the kitchen, too, and thought, No Way. Surely not? But it seemed to be there again later in the scene where she stabbed him. Too weird.



Oh and that loop of Stefan making that face is hilarious.
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you and your recaps are the best!!! you make me cry with laughter XD greetings from Spain ;)



ps. vote for your favourite TVD vampire here!! (klaus pls :P ) http://poll.fm/3iirr



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about the killings didnt they say the stake used on bill was from the lakehouse maybe elena touched it or used it or something and thats why it has her fingerprints on it
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DIBS!!! Also, i second your rant. A huge waste of good Caroline screen time, really.
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Hi Price! Just wanted to let you know that you are my photo recap hero. Everything you say is spot on and has me laughing until I cry! I wanted to try and do what you do (and damn, is it hard!) and did a photorecap myself of 3x13..this is just a sample http://tinypic.com/r/2r3gmlk/5



again, great job! I bow down to you, sir.
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Thanks to shows like this and True Blood once upon a time I would love to sit and watch a vampire movie these shows have ruined it for me. My own daughter who was all about Twilight has gone away from it why because its BORING.

vampire falls in love yeah right !

HELLO BLOOD SUCKERS kill or be killed it's not a romance.
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Your recaps of this show and secret circle are why I had to sign up... funny and campy!!
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I'm yet another one of those people who keeps reading these and never actually comments.

Until now (cue the dramatic music)

But really, quite hilarious - I look forward to these every week.

And those coffins really do make me crave Snickers.



Oh, and in brief answer to your questions:

1. Clearly Freddy Kreuger

2. I'm sort of loving the random extra brothers that were clearly an excuse to add more impossibly attractive male characters to this show... not that I'm complaining or anything.

3. Who cares - I'm more curious about this strange and unwanted Elena/Alaric sexual tension. Thank you, someone else, for noticing this. Can it also be noted that my initial concern with this was his age (nevermind the creepy family stuff...), until I realized that her recent romantic conquests had a combined age of over 300? Why does that NEVER bother anyone (including me...)

4. Duh.
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Now the show needs more hot chicks (vampires) to keep up. Too bad they killed off Anna and Lexi. The show cannot have depth! ;)
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Hi! I am an always reader and never commenter, and I always love love these recaps, but your views on the Bill Forbes characterization really rubbed me the wrong way; it got a little too serious for a second.



I love when the homosexuality of a character doesn't define them and their storyline. You talked about gay people on tv 'finally' being written as 'normal' but what does that even mean? Every gay character I've ever seen on tv or have read about in books (with the exception of Dumbledore ; p ) have always been about coming out, or overcoming some struggle to be accepted, and while I can sympathize that that is what a majority of the gay community needs to face there is more to them than their sexual preferences. As for it being unbelievable that someone openly gay could be so bigoted, I have known several gay people that are also a lot racist and very discriminatory towards other groups. And frankly I think it's unfair to say that a gay villain is a statement on the gay community. How many straight villains are on the show? Does that mean that all straight people are villains too? But besides that I never really saw Bill Forbes as a true villain. He was taught a certain way, that vampires are bad, which he was proved wrong by his own daughter, but one example over a lifetime of hatred is not enough to change a perspective, and honestly I think it would have been more out of character, and hypocritical if he HAD turned for Caroline.



Ok, sorry for that rant, just a perspective that maybe someone else didn't see. Like I said love the recaps and the likes are always spot on. You may carry on photocapping now.
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ha ha
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great review, i laugh so hard, Good job...
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Thanks!
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Everytime after reading your recaps I worry you're actually me and that I have another personality that is male and keeps writing this hilarious stuff. Because I ageee with you on almost everything and I laugh so hard! You rock
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I'm youuuuu (Spooky voice)
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Great recap once more, Price! I love this show and I love reading the recaps to see if there's anything that I missed.

The murders are very intriguing indeed. Seems very curious that the victims so far are non-supernatural. Maybe it's someone who wants to be rid of humans in MF?! I'm going to guess Meredith, maybe doing experiments on what would happen if.... A) I stake a human b) I stake a human with vamp blood c) I stake a human with mystic ring.

And I luv the Originals! Why would Klaus 'confess' to killing mama when he knew that she was in the coffin? He must've done something to make him think that she was dead? Hope they clear that up! And I would definitely support a spin-off to do with the Originals!

Till next week!
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Yeah you're right! Klaus definitely believed she was dead...
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LOL , hilarious :D
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I really hope it's a new character. The originals wouldn't bother, they have enough on their plates at the moment. Even though Meredith has enough crazy in her to have done it, she hopefully wouldn't be that stupid and kill someone at the "office".



It was great to see all of them undaggered. Btw, didn't you love the way Mama O found her way perfectly to the house? She didn't even stop to look at the cars, houses and EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WASN'T THERE 1000 YEARS AGO!!!!!! It's a crazy world....



As long as he is fighting Damon over Elena, I'm game. It's been too long since we've seen Damon's eyebrows in proper action.



I think they threw up half way through to make room enough to finish them all!
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LOL at that last part. Now I can't get that visual out of my head.
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ms lockwood... where she been?

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Good question!
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FINALLY! The mention of the original Petrova! I still am curious on how they intend to style her hair... I haven't given up on my "original" (pun alert!) guess that it will be dread locks. Here goes what I think:

1) I think the killer will either be this new Tatia character IF she is even a vampire, I wouldn't put it past the writers to have some sort "original spell" that involved making the poor Petrova girl a vampire with her own blood or something morbid. Who knows with these writers, I really expected the story line of Bill Forbes being able to use the human brain to fight off supernatural instincts to actually go somewhere and that didn't sooo.... My other guess is that it is a completely new character that we have yet to meet. Why not? They bring random charries in ALL the time (and promptly kill them off), who's to say they aren't doing it now? Wasn't there some other new character that is being introduced to the show? Sasha or something? Lord I can't keep track.

2) Well I love Elijah. Gillies is a hottie, but regardless of that he seems like the most powerful out of all the original fam siblings (besides Klaus obvs), so I was pretty excited to see him. I also love Rebekah and her cheap dresses. She's just amazing in general. The most intriguing one that I am excited to see undaggered (and ONLY due to what Klaus and Elijah touched on in the cold open) is Cole. (Kol? I'm not even sure why someone would spell it like that Price.) Both Klaus and Elijah seemed pretty scared of waking Cole and his presumed recklessness. What kind of a trouble maker IS he? I guess we will find out. NOW to answer your question, the Original I was most excited to SEE (not undagger but unspell?) was the "White Witch" FIRST OFF, on the subject of the writer's ignorance towards their gay character I would like to also complain about their racial ignorance in regards to the witches in the show. Is there a reason they make all the witches black? To date, in all three seasons, we have seen an ABUNDANCE of witches come and go, and guess what? They are all black. Why? Isobel or Elijah or someone waaaay back in an earlier season had one white male witch and that was it. Except for the original witch and the one random who gets killed pretty much asap, all the rest are black and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Are they all related? Cause that's pretty gross of Bonnie if so.... (kissing cousins? ewww). Back to the "White Witch" though. I have to say I am PISSED off at the mistake the CW made last week. On Wednesday the preview for episode 14 was somehow uploaded to youtube and circled around the internet. WTF? How are you going to put up a promo for episode 14 when episode 13 HADN'T EVEN AIRED YET?!?!?!!! So basically, when Thursday rolled around, I already knew what I suspected was in the 4th coffin thanks to the preview of the ball episode with the "mum" in many clips. Hey where did she come from? Oh right... she probably was what is inside the 4th coffin. Face Palm much arseholes at the CW? Don't spoil shit like that again please (even though I already had figured it out cause I'm pretty intuitive with "subtle" foreshadowing hints). Anyways, long paragraph short, the mom is who I wanted to see the most.

3) What was the question? Oh right... who cares. I personally am sick of everyone fighting over Elena. She ain't that special, the Salvatores should be re-fighting over Katherine in my opinion. Moving on...

4) This episode, yet again, proved how much of a bad witch Bonnie is. Who leaves a spell midway through? What a dummy... the apple doesn't fall far from the tree I suppose though. Both the Bennetts bore me.

BRING ON THE BALL!!!!!
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Haha love this. Awesome thoughts.
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Katherine or Tatia of course. Your recaps are so flippin funny and Price-less!!! Just can't stop laughing out loud (for real) when I read them!
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- My guess would be Katherine.

- I really like Kol and Rebekkah but totally on related... Klaus is as hot as he is a psychopath and i really hope the originals stay for another season :P

- Could not care less. Elena/Stefan and the whole love triangle got kind of boring...

- Nooooo But they did feel bad the day after because there pants were too tight.
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1.I'm guessing Tatia, since they brought her up in the same timing.

2. KOL!! well actually all of them, I hope Rebekah gets Matt.

3. If they fight, I hope Damon wins, I love him. BEST LINE: DIBS

4. I'm still recovering from the fact that they ate them all without sharing.
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does anyone else think that tatia is the fell ghost?

(because of the fingerprints and she might be haunting mystic falls after she had been violently drained of blood by the original witch causing possibly her death)
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Great idea! .....Has TVD mentioned the Fell ghost yet, or are we still pulling that from the books?
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Drunk Elena at Carolines funeral teased Matt about seeing the Fell Ghost before Stefan knocked Matt out and kidnapped her... does that count?
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Yeah and you know what?

I read an interview where Kat Graham said that the scenes in the Tomb were MAJORLY important and that we might not see anything relevant right away 'cuz the writer worked really hard to hide it but that we should really pay a lot of attention to that.

Maybe the tomb is the Fell Tomb the entrance to the tunnel underneath the Fell Tomb in the Books. Since they are bringing Meredith from the books they could have been bringing something else with her?
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Interesting ideas. Do you have a link to the Kat Graham interview?
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I think Alaric is doing the stabbing, thought it since he brought up not remembering the drunk-dialing conversation. Also, it's practically law that any TV character who is the lone survivor of a killing spree ends up being the culprit trying to throw off suspicion.
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Interesting. And he stabbed himself as a double bluff.... Could be. Any character with memory lapses usually is the killer. Or...the butler did it.
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Hmmm
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Hola everyone, I am new but I've been looking at these recaps for a while. They are hilarious. I loved the "It is i, your mother the white witch. And i've brought my tambourine" That made me laugh.

1. I am hoping it is Tatia. I want to see Her, Katherine, and Elena in one scene. Epic!

2. Kol and Rebecca.

3. I don't know, i'm a Delena fan but i would care less if she ends up with Stefan

4. Yes. Lol.
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What's up with the snickers thing!? lol I don't get it
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It's me bein' dumb. And hungry.
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did anybody observed that klaus has no ring? now that he broke the curse the sunlight is not an issue anymore?

i really hope is a human behind those killing.... maybe somebody from that town has realized that the actual "secret" council is not doing a good bussines...and if the killing will continue... is sherif forbes next or ms. lockwood?
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They touched on that WAY back in season 2 when he became a hybrid. Hybrid's don't get burned by the sun. That's why Tyler never needed Bonnie to make him a witchy piece of jewellery.
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Yeah I remember when he woke up all naked in the forest.
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AWESOME, with all originals undaggered I'm gonna miss your Snickers jokes ;)



- Katherine or like you said the original doppelganger, how many roles will Nina play?!

- Rebekah, she's so awesome :)

- Let Stefan fight for her heart, she'll probably return to him... Poor Damon (he's obviously the better choice...)

- Nah, witches don't throw up, they just get nosebleeds
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Rubbish....
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I honestly agree.
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i absolutely loved this episode! the original family reunion was amazing! completely agree wid u on the gay dad thing though!
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With so much stuff happening in season 3 how will season 4 ever top this? what will be the story line next season? i know i'm jumping ahead but this season had so many season finale like episodes so much is hapening im scared the next season wont be as good
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Totally! Gosh, how do you top the ORIGINAL vampire? Plus can the backstory get anymore complicated? How many more flashbacks can we possibly need?
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maybe they can tap into Damon's past after he left mystic falls in 1864 though i don't think that would be much interesting than the events happening in season 3
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well... there is the posibility that there will be another villan... that they'll have to fight together with klaus... maybe elena will become a bad ass...
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Totally with you on this. It felt a season finale and they gave enough new info to make it fell like one...
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-Oh, and forgot to answer the third question. I sincerely hope so. I love Stefan-Elena, but there again, it's always good to see someone fighting for someone else. Maybe Elena can fight for him next season? Not sure how that would work, but it could be fun...
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First, the Snickers bit? Inspired. Second, I didn't hate the Caroline's Dad storyline as much as you did, but I am at least glad that it is (currently, at least) over. I am quite intrigued by this Meredith character and I expect some more stuff to come out about her soon enough, and I agree with you, it seems just too much obvious for her to be behind the killings. The killing plot is like the Charlaine Harris novels (not "True Blood" the show) to me. Agatha Christie meets Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Awesome.



-I originally thought that they could do something cool with Jeremy being behind the killings, but when Alaric got stabbed, that changes my mind there. I'd love to see Katherine again, but I don't think that this would be her MO. I think it would be great if it were actually someone new who would have many more episodes devoted to their history who could become the main villain for season 4 which would require the Originals to team up with team Gilbert-Salvatore. But maybe I'm taking this too far.

-I LOVED seeing Elijah again. Klaus is a great villain, but Elijah is straight-up awesome. He's a ridiculously honest and straight-forward vamp with serious emotions and a fierce loyalty to his promises who somehow manages to always surprise. Great to see him at it again. Though I AM jonesing for some STUFF about Bros 3 and 4 and Mummy Dearest.

-I think it's a witches curse, throwing up doesn't work well. I think their magic is just going to be really jittery and kind of unfocused for a couple of days while they're coming down off the sugar high. Maybe one will vibrate out of existence. By mommy....
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I miss our Dexter arguments. Just kidding! Yeah we are definitely in agreement about good riddance to Bill Forbes. I'm so into the killings too. Awesome points, as always.
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I loved seeing Elijah undaggered. Meeting the other brothers was fun too :) I hope Stefan goes for Elena, we haven't had a real love triangle for a while :)



Also, I bet the Bennett witches stuffed some of the snickers in their pockets and purses for later! :P
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Alaric is the killer... OBVIOUSLY. I can't even understand how people cannot see it.



Mind you, I have no idea why he is killing everyone in the council, but the way he managed to 'survive' long enough for Elena to show up... very suspicion.



Anyway, I know I'm right. Any other suspect makes no sense.
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I'm open-minded. I just don't see it yet though.
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The only problem I see with your theory is that if it is the case that Alaric is the murderer and his body is being used as a weapon, then CW needs new writers cause guess what.... they already did that plot line. Remember back when Klaus used Alaric as a weapon but inhabiting his body? Yeah, pretty much the same thing. If you're right then that will be a major disappointment to learn the writers are already recycling their story lines.
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People can't see it because, as you stated, he has no motive that we know of. He's also not one of the shows great minds. He's not a schemer on the level of Katherine or Klaus nor even on the level of Damon or Stefan. So, yes, it's possible that he may be the weapon, but anything beyond that would be a stretch. So, if we take this a step further, that means he's being compelled. So what you actually believe is that a vampire is behind the killings. Which one?
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,,, I have never being psycho-analyzed so accurately!



Which vampire do I think compelled Alaric do start killing council members? Frankly, I really don't know - the usual suspect in such matters, Klaus, seems so above worrying about anything humans can come up with, that it pretty much only leave Katherine to do the deed, someone who should worry about more pressing things than kill off folks.



Really, I don't know... I am just certain that, whoever it is, Alaric is his weapon.
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While I love this theory, I'm a little disappointed that Alcoholaric is apparently stupid enough to get compelled. Shouldn't he be doing just as many shot of vervain as he is of whiskey?!?! Or did some BAMF Vamp find a way around vervain?
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I remember reading recently an interview where Matt Davis always wanted the writers to take on the consequences of Alaric's body beeing possesed by Klaus, like making him evil or something because he loved playing the villain--

I think that could be what they are doing: Alaric's turning evil witout even knowing.
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And they censored H.O.M.O.S and not H.E.T.E.R.O.S? Way to go TV.com
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Weird, it's almost like one of those is frequently used a slur? I agree though, I keep getting "****phobia" in my responses which kind of detracts from my point.
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Man you got worked up about the gay dude. But being absolutely fair. Life has teached us that they are dicks that are: Homos, Heteros, Atheists, Theists and Misc. It does not matter what you are, you can be BAD and/or Stupid.
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Oh I certainly agree. We are all equal when it comes to being jerks. If there had been ANY other gay character who was non-evil, I'd give this show a pass. For now they're 1 for 1 and that's the sort of thing a gay guy like me notices.
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i think alaric is somehow the attacker. his drinking is being portayed all the time, and he mentioned how he does not remember calling meredith drunken late at night - so what else can't he remember? i think this was all foreshadowing, they would not throw all that out there without reason.

also, his mojo has been off for a while, his ring wasn't working properly for some reasons a few episodes back...i believe there is something going on.

maybe he wasn't the one attacked in this episode, maybe he attacked somebody and whoever that was defended themselves and that's how he got stabbed.

maybe he is under some sort of spell / compulsion?



i don't know, maybe i'm completey off base here. but i somehow believe that they hinted at too much for it not to mean anything. plus it would be a great twist to have someone who is very trusted etc. be responsible for such awful things, and no one could really blame him. that was also a hint - elena's trust in him was mentioned a lot. so how cruel would it be for him to be involved in this mess? can't wait to find out!
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I think that his ring didn't work properly a few episodes back because it was a hybrid that killed him. I know that a hybrid is a supernatural but he never seems to have a problem when straight up vamps or straight up dopplegangers kill him but as soon as you throw a hybrid in the mix his ring only "half worked" ...kind of like a hybrid is only half a vampire and half a werewolf. That just makes the most sense to me since the only time the ring faulted was with a Hybrid. two plus two...
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I think you're exactly right. It's a result of having Klaus housed within his body last season, there's got to be a repercussion to that and I think this is it. His blackouts are too much. I also think that's why the ring isn't working much, it would only protect innocents from supernatural beings. Alaric may have too much supernatural still in him.
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Very valid point. However, there is one thing we can't forget - the ring doesn't work on beings that are supernatural. Your theory would make sense if the ring was acting faulty right after the whole "Klaus taking over Alaric's body" thing but since then, how many times has he died? It would make sense if for the first few deaths after the body swap it stopped working properly but having it start to be messed up so much later down the road doesn't jive with your theory very well. I still think it is because of the hybrid killing him. If you look at all his other supernatural deaths, the hybrid was the only being he didn't recover from right away. Oh and his frequent blackouts are probably a result of him turning into a raging alcoholic LOL!
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-I'm still dead set on thinking it's Meredith. It just fits. Plus she's a genuine nut.

-Obviously it's between Elijah and Rebekah. I love Rebekah too! But Elijah was just awesome in the second season, he really grew on me just as Klaus did. Oof, it's a toss up. I'm going to say Rebekah because she hates Elena.

-I hope not. I don't think ANYONE wants boring Stefan back!

-LOL, can you please explain to me what the deal is with that Snickers thing? I feel like it's more of an inside joke rather than some random witty reference or joke or whatever.
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In one of Price's previous recaps, the first time we saw the coffins, he likened them to giant snickers bars :).
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Ohh! lol yeah that's right now I remember! Thanks for explaining!
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It's not a great joke, I'll admit. I prefer fruit-flavored candy myself.
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First of all, great recap. It made a kind of sad episode hilarious. 1.) I have no idea who is behind the killing. I think Katherine is the obvious choice, but I think TVD will throw us a curve ball and it will be somebody else. 2). I was actually really excited about seeing Rebekah and Klaus (I missed some episode in season 1 and the beginning of season two so I'm not really sure what I should know about Klaus's other brothers, but their HOT. 3). I love badass Stephan. I love that he doesn't care and does what he wants. He's so much funnier. Anyways, I don't care if Elena ends up with him or Damon. Honestly I think both couple chemistry is pretty much the same. 4). Maybe. 5). Where is Tyler? 6). When is Caroline going to get her own show?
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Honestly I don't think his sexuality played into his horrible character end. Bonnie's plot sucks and quite frankly her mothers character sucks as well but I don't think it's TVD shafting them with horrible character development because they're black. I just plain and simple feel that all characters that are NOT the originals, vamps, plus Elena get bad lines written for them. Quite frankly they should just give up and make the how about klaus and his family because the rest if the people are simply boring me and it's not their fault but the writers.
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Right but what if Bonnie were the ONLY black character? In TVD there have been other African-Americans (sure they've been all murdered, but that's another rant). If Bonnie were the only black character and she only appeared in three episodes out of 50 and was evil? I'm just saying, it's a numbers game right now, and currently 100% of TVD's gay characters have chained up their daughters and tortured them.
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His being gay had nothing to do with his plot line. Gays and straights alike can make immoral decisions. Just as not all gays are atheists, not all of them are open to every little thing. That's not realistic at all. TVD wasn't striving to advocate gay-rights, it was just writing the world as it is. Hypocritical as it may seem to you - stop making double standards for gays, in writing or otherwise.
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Stop legislating double standards then.
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Great Episode! I hope it's Katherine, I was excited to see Rebecca again, and yes Stefan may fight for Elena, but what will she want? I'm beginning to wonder what good any of their magic is if they are always passing out or having crazy side effects. Lets see some really cool stuff!
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LOL This recap totally made my day!! Price, seriously.. so funny I had to cry... You killed me with the DIBS caption. I'm going to read it all again right now haha !
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More Thoughts:

1. I want some clarification on who Sproinked the Originals. Did Klaus do it? Did they do it to themselves as a way to "hide" from Mikael? Did Mikael do it?

2. When Tatia was used as a human sacrifice in the Sun and Moon curse, how old was her "baby with another man"? And how raised that kid? (Obviously if it lived in Mystic Falls, parents were irrelevant, but still.)

3. The more I think about it, seeing the entire Original Family revealed in one episode is disappointing. Save some interesting stuff for later!

4. This show. And it's plot holes. When we first meet Elijah as he's after Trevor and Rose (I miss Rose) he talked about how the Originals could walk in daylight without harm. When Rebecca is telling Elena about how they were created (S03E08) she talks about the sun burning them and "it kept us indoors for weeksuntil my mother found a solution" right as she mentions the solution we see a shot of Rebecca's hand and her ring. So, Originals impervious to sunlight or need dorky magic rings?

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1) Klaus for sure. Rebekah hinted at this to stefan when he asked her why she wasn't mad at him for carting around his family in coffins, she said they all had a choice to folow Klaus or deal with his temper tantrum.

2) I don't think we'll ever get a satisfying answer to this.

4) I KNOW. This frustrates the shit out of me, it's right up there with the whole "Hybrids are half vamp/half werewolf and stronger than both" speel Klaus gave originally, and now the hybrids are more easily killed than the humans on this show. I think theres just too many balls in the air, some of them were bound to drop.
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I have to disagree with you about Caroline's dad. I think the fact that he's gay has absolutely nothing to do with his hatred against vampires, his principals or whatsoever. Just like we don't talk about Stefan's straightness having anything to do with his retarded revenge plans. What does it matter that he's the only gay guy on the show and that he's a hypocritic villain? Why can't he just be a flat written character and be OK. Why do we even need a gay character on this show? Really, this week's dinner scene was more homoerotic than anything any gay character will do on TV this week.

Also, I'm growing kind of tired of gay characters on every show myself. They only seem to be written in because they offer really good drama in terms of coming out. In some cases, it feels genuine and real and I feel like it could actually help a lot of kids, like on Glee, but that very same show is overkilling it. On 90210 they had two coming outs, one of them was temporary and the second was genuine but was written out. I can't really think of any show that doesn't have some gay character or a coming out story. The only one that isn't cliche is Max from Happy Endings. He's actually more than just "gay". Just like daddy Forbes was n't on this show for being gay, he was on this show for being a bad dad to Caroline and a vampire hater.

I agree fully that he was a ridiculous character, his points of view were lame and it should have been way better a character as respect to the wonderful actor who portrays him as well as the awesome force that is Caroline. But I don't agree that that has anything, whatsoever, to do with him being gay or TVD stereotyping gay men or portraying them negatively.
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"What does it matter that he's the only gay guy on the show and that he's a hypocritic villain?" This question is exactly the problem I'm addressing. IT MATTERS. TV is representative of the population and all viewers deserve to feel kinship with the characters they watch. If you think it doesn't matter there's a very good chance you're not in a minority class. However you make a great point about the fact that most gay characters are written as "coming out" stories, and to this I also object. Max on Happy Endings is one of the very few gay characters who is actually allowed to be a normal human being. Not evil, not saintly, not always a comic relief, just as complicated as anyone else. It's nice. But it's rare.
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So I'm going to try and respond to this without any strong emotions. In regards to "Why do we even need gay characters?" I personally find this line of thinking wholly offensive. Television is a medium that seeks (to a certain extent) to represent a greater population of viewers. Put simply- because there are gay people in this TV-watching world, there should be gay people on T.V. I cannot appropriately articulate in this small space the privilege inherent in seeing a representation of yourself on a tv show you love. There are endless studies and discussions on this should you want to learn more.



As to your second paragraph: the reason you're seeing so many gay characters come out on TV is because of the climate we live in, where gay people are denied rights and are still shamed into silence. The extent to which these representations succeed is a discussion for another time, I only want you to understand for every person that finds it tedious, there is someone else whose happiness depends on it.



Thanks for reading.
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I fully agree with your point, I do think we need gay characters but not for the sake of having gay characters on TV. I am actually saying that when they are used to help people become more accepting to gays or help young teens come out it's wonderful. That's exactly what TV has the power to do.

But once again it has NOTHING do to with Caroline's dad or TVD's lack of gay characters.
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Thanks for your response! I actually think TVD was attempting to do exactly what you are suggesting. Bill wasn't coming out or talking about being gay, he was just a character who happened to be gay. However because he is the only gay character on TVD, like many minorities, he is burdened with being the sole representation of that minority. I believe what Price is arguing is that too often the public only readily excepts this particular minority when playing a villain, and Bill Forbes has fallen into that stereotype, which is disappointing.

But again, I respect your opinion, I just believe otherwise.
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MeftihePhoen, I support/agree with your post whole heartedly. My personal opinion is that if TV were to limit the number of gay characters or somehow minimize their storylines based soley on their sexual orientation, then that only furthers the general attitudes of bigotry and smallmindedness which are all too common out here in the "real" world.
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Thanks! Maybe this is super nerdy of me, but I love having these kinds of in-depth discussions about TV. I think it's too important to ignore, even if it momentarily disturbs the hilariously witty flow of this forum.
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I tend to agree with you angropallanen. Caroline's father's gayness was irrelevnt. His sexuality did not enter my consciousness in my judgement of his actions.



But on the issue of stereotyping in the media and TVD in particular let's highlight all of it. Gay characters are not the only group "written too simplistically ... to seem like anything approaching a real person". It's frustrating and offensive to all.
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I still think Meredith's the killer, but ur right, it could be anyone. I don't think it's Katherine though, I mean she and Elena look alike, but they're not CLONES! Here's a thought... What if it is in fact a compelled Elena?

Ah, my favourite pretty Original is COLE! WHAT a cute actor, I welcome lots more of him!

I sure hope Stefen does, b/c Stelena is inevitable, it might as well happen already!

Hmm... I sure hope they did, or they're getting diabetes :P!
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Now that is interesting about Elena being compelled
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i love how Bonnie straight up guilt tripped her mom into doing magic bringing up "you abandoned me and i used to pretend you were dead b/c it was easier" that look was killer
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I think its Alaric that is behind all the murders. Maybe he is blacking out and doing it or something but it seems like he is behind them.
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I agree with Price about Bill. The Caroline/Bill storyline was an allegory for a very typical gay storyline. It is so in your face that I honestly don't know how to respond to anyone who thinks otherwise. I don't know if it is willful ignorance or dishonesty. Even the actress said, in an interview, that she played Caroline telling her mother about her vampirism like a gay coming out scene.



This whole thing was like having a member of a minority being the villain committing an atrocity commonly committed against their people. Like having a black person be the villain in a slavery story or having a jew be the villain in a "jewish holocaust" story without any thought put into it. Bill was a hate robot who hates and tortures. There was barely any attention paid to his relationship with his daughter until the very end when the show made it all about "hate the sin, love the sinner". The show pretends there is no subtext/that the subtext is just about "intolerance". People love to do that because it's a way of blaming the victim and abdicating responsibility - "We didn't hurt gay people. They hurt themselves. And look, they deserved it too! The *are* harmful and destructive (Caroline is a vampire after all)." Yeesh!



Whenever I see writers do this, I wonder if it is a way of convincing themselves that the oppressed are on their (the oppressor's) side. Not only that but that they always were. It is like how there's always that "the slaves were singing in the fields!" refrain. The idea that the oppressed were not only complicit in their oppression but actually loved it which aligns with the oppressor's viewpoint that he should be in control. It makes the privileged feel safe because it's like, "the oppressed won't rebel or hurt me or be angry, they know it's best this way, too!". I think passing the responsibility of the oppression onto the oppressed is a way of justifying the oppression. A way of persuading yourself that it's the best thing to do and justifying nostalgia for oppression, and also a way of undermining a feeling of being under threat (which is probably based on guilt). So, of course, people always love to make the oppressor -- GASP -- a member of the oppressed



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- I vote for Alaric being the killer. I bet he blacks out from drinking too much and goes around hunting "vampires" who are actually people he despises - like himself

- Elijah!!!

- Of course. Here comes the Stelena train wreck. I wish Elena would stay single for a while but that is not in the cards.

- No. I don't think they threw the snickers up. I think they were in a sugar coma.
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Dang, this comment is far more eloquent and intelligent than anything I ever could've written. The portrayal of a gay man as a perpetrator of a metaphorical hate crime against a metaphorical gay character is just disturbing. The "hate the sin, love the sinner" point is extremely astute and it's a phrase that has lead to any number of awful acts committed by people of faith. The main bummer is this plotline was just so muddled in meaning that presumably well-intentioned writers may have ACCIDENTALLY written something pretty poisonous in meaning. But it's my job to judge the end result regardless of intention, and I am flabbergasted that this end result never occurred to them in the writers room. Or maybe it did? I can't even wrap my head around it.
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It is nether "willful ignorance or dishonesty". People are simply reading a different text. In Dracula, for example, vampirism is most often read as an allegory or either immigration or female desire. The gay allegory (certainly neither the first nor last allegory in the corpus of Vampire lit) works best in texts such as Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles, where blood substitutes for sex. It works less well in TVD, where vampire hypersexuality disrupts the one to one ratio of idea to meaning required by allegory. When there seems to be nothing limiting vampire sexuality in a literal sense, it's difficult to sustain the premise that vampirism itself is an allegory for culturally suppressed homosexuality.



TVD references many allegories of vampirism. Season 1 invited us to read vampirism as an allegory for racial otherness or union sympathizing ( remember the Civil War stuff and the union sympathizer cover story?). The doppelgnger theme in season 2 encouraged us to read vampirism as youth frenzy (the pursuit of youth). This season has invited us to read vampirism as addiction allegory, disease allegory, and others, but more relevantly, vampirism in season 2 & 3 is also an allegory for mythic origination. This season especially treats the falseness of origin myths and ultimately reveals the reality of miscegenation. The Originals accepting the hybrid Klaus is, then, a direct mirroring of Bill's refusal to affirm the vampire line. The idea of a "pure blood" origin is broken both by hybridization (Klaus) and the refusal of the last heir (Bill) to carry the line forward (Caroline's involvement simply emphasizes the incestuous nature of origin myths).



And then there is always the view that allegories are inferior ways to make meaning of any text, usually as they are reductive in the extreme and do no justice to the full meaning of the work in question.
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This is a really well-reasoned explanation of some of TVD's themes, but it sidesteps AdriftatSea's primary point that the most prominent and obvious (and intentional) allegories have been the coming out moments of Caroline and Tyler. It's not even a matter of interpretation, as Julie Plec told me in an interview that while there weren't yet gay characters, they imbue gayness into the show as metaphor. I'm concerned that you're very academically attempting to change the conversation when it's really a simple point to accept: This show has made a gay character a perpetrator of crimes frequently committed against gay people in real life.
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But gay people don't really kill people "in real life" *because* they are gay. Vampires "IRL" do. Allegory works only when everything remains on a symbolic level. You can't take the literal gayness of a character and make it a factor of the figurative gay-hate/discrimination. Allegories do not work that way. Saying that vampirism is working metaphorically is more acceptable, but the metaphor only works so far. At some point, you can't escape the literal crimes of the various players involved, unless you plan to argue that the literal crimes are figurative, too, and work out what they mean on a symbolic level. I would be interested in seeing what you can come up with. What do Caroline's/Stefan's/Vampire X's mistakes mean on a metaphorical level (to the Vamps are gay metaphor)? What does Bill's identifying as gay mean on a metaphorical level 9to the vamps are gay metaphor)? Obviously, Bill had to come out to his family "IRL", what did that mean, metaphorically speaking, if it didn't mean he came out as gay (because that's what it means to be a vamp instead). I hope you can see Bill Is A Big Fat Bigot does NOT work as it implies a permeability of literal and metaphorical textual meaning that just doesn't work.
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Very cogent argument about Jack Coleman's character. I agree.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
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OMG, the Delorian and the check yes or no note made LOL so hard!
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I don't think it's Kathrine, she doesn't have anything to gain here...

Abby no, Bobbie for sure...
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