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The Vampire Diaries "Stand By Me" Review: Stages of Grief

The Vampire Diaries S04E15: "Stand By Me"

Killing a central character is a huge card for a TV show to play. Essentially you’re shutting down a whole avenue for stories and closing off a network of relationships you’ve spent time constructing. If you’re going to do that, the payoff has to enrich the characters and relationships that remain. Play that card to generate compelling stories and drive significant character development, and it’s worth it. Play it just to wring some tears out of the moment and ride an emotional catharsis, and it’s manipulation.

“Stand by Me” was a masterful example of the former. Jeremy’s death, once Elena allowed herself to grasp it, utterly obliterated her, pushing her to a place where, at Damon’s behest, she relinquished her last inkling of humanity. For all the shaky plotting and shifting motivations that propelled the race for the cure, the entire storyline has been elevated by this tragic irony. The quest to make Elena Gilbert human again has culminated in her choosing to become fully a monster.

Nina Dobrev had to carry the episode even as her character was mostly caught in the undertow for the first half, and she turned in a terrific performance all the way through. From balancing both an assured mode of denial and a fragile one, to sinking into despondency as reality set in, to then escalating her flood of grief into a maelstrom of rage and hopelessness and fire accelerants, she nailed every note (“There’s no room in the Gilbert family plot”). The gradual shift in her face from ruin to numbness when Elena switched off her emotions was uncannily fluid.

Ever since vampirizing its heroine, I’ve been curious to see if the show would cross that Rubicon. Doing so could be fruitful, or it could be disastrous, but either way they’ve laid the appropriate groundwork to make such a devastating descent—realizing Elena’s oft-expressed worst fears—plausible. The episode foreshadowed early on that it might pull the trigger, too. That fear was clearly in the back of Stefan’s mind when he trailed off contemplating what would become of Elena, “now without any family...” This was the only potential outcome so unthinkable as to make both Stefan and Caroline unflinchingly accept Damon manipulating Elena through the sire bond as a necessary recourse. Even then, in the wake of her near-self-immolation, nobody put up too much of a fight when Damon ultimately decided the switch-off would be the lesser evil.

Yet for a while it appeared such drastic measures wouldn’t be necessary. Matt—who knows a thing or two about losing a younger sibling—almost got through to her, reinforcing again how theirs is quietly one of this show’s most potent relationships. Their sojourn very nearly sent the episode down the opposite path, one which still would have held true to an aspect of TVD’s thematic heart: pulling Elena back from the brink by tapping into her strongest human connection, rather than her strongest mystical one.

Ol’ Matt might’ve gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for those meddling kids and their millennia-old vengeance-fueled ghost-demon. This being The Vampire Diaries, the show can’t take its foot off the gas to mourn for too long. Enter Bonnie (none the worse for wear despite the shit that went down at Silas’s Cavern on the Green), armed with a bushel of Mystic Falls’s most abundant renewable resource: Cataclysmically insane plans!

“Stand by Me” gained some of that old TVD steam here at its midpoint, in a sequence that did about as tidy and dynamic a job possible of dumping a metric ton of convoluted exposition. It hit on every stage of the reveal (Shane/Silas to Bonnie, Damon to Stefan, Bonnie to the gang), brought in all the key opinions (most of which, suitably, boiled down to, “WTF?!”), and even built the whole thing into the crescendo of white noise that battered through Elena’s last defense. Healthy grieving just isn’t possible when one of your friends or another is always trying to magically jailbreak an entire purgatory dimension.

All because Elena’s not the only one unhinged by the tragedy, nor is Damon the worst grief counselor under the circumstances. Bonnie is wounded deeply enough that she surrendered all doubts and reason and hitched her wagon to Shane-cum-Silas and his kooky scheme of reviving every supernatural entity that’s ever bitten the dust. (Basically he’s Walter Peck at the end of Ghostbusters, and Bonnie is the Con Ed guy. Do I have that right?)

Now, this was a great episode for Bonnie, and for Kat Graham, who’s gracefully walking a fine line between understandable psychic disarray and outright bugnuttery. I’ve generally been a fan of her material all season. I think that could continue, as she’s the linchpin between the good guys and the mythical scary apocalypse monster. That said, I will be severely disappointed if this season ends with Bonnie going full-on Dark Willow. It’s bad enough that Silas has somehow seen enough Buffy the Vampire Slayer to cop The First’s M.O.; let’s try to be a little more inventive with our Big Bad, shall we, show?


NOTES


– The episode’s first gut-punch moment for me: “What’s that smell?” “It’s his body.” Oof.

– I appreciated the moments spent indulging the others’ grief as well. Matt spent all day propping up Elena and Bonnie, and so couldn’t even make it home before breaking down in his own pain. Caroline, in a bit of denial, unburdened herself into the void of a voice mailbox she acknowledged Tyler will never hear.

– Damon’s mildly impressed regard for Rebekah’s eloquent sadism was a welcome spot of comedy. They should play “bad cop/worse cop” more often.

– Speaking of Rebekah, the poor girl got ditched once again, left to finish the table-setting work up in Fauxva Scotia. And hey, Vaughn was around to screw with her head, because it’s been like three days since anyone last tried to screw with Rebekah’s head.

– After so many spleen-venting conversations on that front porch, watching Elena, Stefan, and Damon stride off it and away from the burning Gilbert homestead carried an effective sense of finality, if not closure. Also it looked damn cool.

– “Aren’t you Elena’s current love? It’s so hard to keep track these days.”

– “Poison your best friend once and suspicion follows you forever.”

– “Damon Logic.” Patent pending.

– “She lost her brother. I’m not enough. Not this time.”

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I do have to give this episode a thumbs up for ripping out my heart and stomping on it. I didn't cry till like 10 minutes in when Matt showed up, that was the saddest thing ever. I also super love the Damon/Bonnie hug it reminded me of those days long ago in season one where I wanted them together. I am also REALLY glad we are going to get an evil Elena, maybe now she won't be so boring. Though this episode I did appreciate the emotion, it was one of the first times I felt genuine despair wash over her.
This episode also really made me sorta want Elena to be human again, only because I think her and Matt should be together, now I know that will never happen cause the end game is always gonna be Stefan and Elena, but I just really think Elena shouldn't be with Damon or Stefan and Matt and her always seem to have this connection that overcomes everyone else’ even Damon and Stefan’s.
The final thing I loved was Damon’s brother comment, it made me tear up a little and was actually one of the most touching moments because it was so subtle. The whole Damon wouldn’t be able to handle life without Stefan thing was friggin adorable.
But by far the funniest moment was that everyone pretended they actually cared about Bonnie when she finally showed up, but all the dialogue about saving her and finding her was, naturally, just to make her figure out a way to save Jeremy, that killed me, I got a good laugh outta that one.
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OK so now that I'm done my thesis papers I can catch up on all the awesome I have missed from TVD. I have some how managed to avoid spoilers but I hear ep. 18 is a Klaroline episode, so I guess I can forgive this one for having no Klaus. But there are still a lot of things that irritated me about this episode more than it probably should have and I don’t know why. Maybe because it triggered memories of the Kol murder / vampire genocide that took place. The characters willingness to kill mass amounts of people to save one person, is really starting to get old, I appreciate the sane people in the episode for finally putting their foot down and saying no, but no doubt if it was about Elena instead of Jeremy this would have gone another way. Other random thing that was annoying about this episode was the unnecessary flashbacks, literally the flashback was to something that happened like 10 seconds ago.
I particularly loved that they could smell a body decaying from outside the house but Rebekah couldn’t notice one until she almost tripped over it.
Also have mixed feeling about burning down the house, I know they were going for emotional impact, but I know we are gonna have to hear a lot of crying over it later once she inevitably gets her humanity back. Which is why I think I was even more irritated by the reasoning for it, I mean does anyone honestly think the people of Mystic Falls are going to question someones death, the only people that do that are the ones that already know that it was probably something supernatural and thus wouldn’t mention it. Plus Elena totally told April like how many hours in advance of burning the house down that Jeremy was already dead, if you were trying to avoid suspicion that is an epic fail right there.
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Calm down pls, Freddie Mercury & stop yelling @ me, u r scaring my dog. She is now running in circles. :( OK thx. K BYEEEE!!!

PS Tip: Don't ever let famous singers/awesome people in2 ur house, they will scare ur dog & eat all the peanut butter . . . 'cause Freddie is a ghost now. :( Also they will sing very loudly & there will b ppl outside ur house 2 get their autograph 'cause Freddie Mercury.

BTW HOPE I WUZ LOADS OF HELPFUL & STOPPED U FROM MAKING A LIFE-ALTERING MISTAKE!!!!!!! K THX BYEEE!!
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Well, one thing I love that the writers did with this storyline is firmly put Katherine back into the villain category. She got way too de-fanged in the fandom for a while there, with most viewers casting her as just some saucy, entertaining little minx. It's a problem TVD has had with a lot of its antagonists, from Damon to Klaus. The lines have got to be drawn again, and Jeremy's death - a real, ugly, smelly, permanent death from the show for once - was the way to do it.

Nina Dobrev gets special props from me for her breakdown scene. The way she grew increasingly manic and couldn't finish a thought and finally threw up her arms to shield herself from comforting words and then dropped to the floor in despair, repeating that it "hurt" made for a truly memorable scene that, for me, really anchored me to her character and made me empathetic toward her again. She's a character surrounded by so much constant drama that sometimes it becomes almost impossible to connect with her, but at this point things are so truly bad that she's commanding center stage.

Will a more powerful, interesting Elena rise from the ashes? Only the next few episodes will tell. I am a little nervous, especially from the "Bring it On" trailer, that they're just going to take her down the numb partier "Damonesque" path, which is quite empty and something we've already seen (from almost every character actually). What I'd rather get is one-on-one time with her, her tracking down Katherine, her trying to figure out who she is and where to go from her and get some revenge... But, hell, looks like we might just get drinking and cheerleading tryouts. We'll see.

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OMG your comment about smelly deaths made me think of Price . . . :(

LOLZ drinking. Elena needs a drink so bad. :)
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It was a pretty great episode; Katherine finally shows up again and Silas is pretending to be Shane (kinda obvious). But since like season 2 I've been wondering when on earth is Lucy Bennett going to come back? Bonnie is totally going psycho even considering about lifting the veil and having Lucy back would probably be interesting. I liked the way Bonnie's mom came back a couple episodes ago, and how they introduced Bonnie's dad and tried to help Bonnie. But definitely Silas is going to be the main character the writers are going to focus on and I'm looking forward to what his impact is on the show!
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Wait who's Lucy Bennet? Did you mean Emily? Or was it that one witch that helped Katherine? Confused.
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The witch that helped Katherine was also Bonnie's cousin (that's who i was talking about), she did actually say she might come back.
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Oh. Okay thanks. Honestly I don't pretend to understand life anymore. :(
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This episode carried some decent emotional heft, which was a nice change compared to some of the more rerent episodes on the island.

'm glad they didn't wait to reveal that Silas is duplicating Shane because I was seriously struggling to figure out why Silas mattered at all once it was revealed that Bonnie can drop the veil between worlds.

So... Who gets to kill Bonnie before she destroys the world?
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ME!!!!!!! Pls, writers? I would do anything 4 u guyz if u just let me end this freakin' lady. K thx.
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TVD lost me the minute they tried to convince us that most of the vampires we know and love are desperate for the cure. Seriously, why would a powerful, immortal, ageless vampire want to become a weak, fast-aging human??

The shock value of death on TVD is no longer there. Silas is going to bring Jeremy right back anyway so why waste time crying and mourning him??

And there's something I don't understand. Why is everybody all the time scrambling to save Elena? What is so special about her? Every single character is willing to put their lives down to if ONLY to secure a moment's happiness for Elena.

I'm losing the interest I once had for TVD and I don't want to.
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I don't think Jeremy's coming bsvk.
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Hold up, what's bsvk? Not even urban dictionary knows that one!!
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everyone in mystic fall have lost at least one family member, many of them while been humans, i dont understand why elena cant get throught that, why stefan and damon needed to shut her humanity down, that is just stupid.
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I totally agree. Are they implying she's the only one on the show who cares so deeply about her friends and her loved ones that she will lose her mind when they die?

And that the rest of the characters didn't really love their loved ones as much as Elena does?

When Caroline's dad was dying, all her friends were not around her to offer support and her dad's death was soon forgotten, No big deal. Same thing with Matt's mom and his sister Vicki. And JENNA. And the list goes on..
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and on and on and on. Agreed. Elena should suck it up and deal.

'Whoops, my bro died, NBD.' - Elena
'FINALLY!! Thank you, girl.' - Me

But Jeremy WAS way less sucky than Caroline's jerk dad or Jenna. There were others who deserved the kind of mileage that Jer got out of his death.
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Hi. So I was wondering what is ur fav smiley face? (J/K I am trying to survive this hiatus and failing . . . GAHHH. Want 2 see the ashes of Elena's diary so that I know I will never have 2 worry & B sad ever again.) I feel like someone should make a post where in the comments everyone should say random stuffs and things they be feelin' at that moment. I would do this myself but I don't know how 2 make stuffs or posts. My pet robot follows directions though so if you tell me to tell him how 2 make stuffs/posts I would B happy. :) K THX. =D

PS My fav smiley face is
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PS Also u can put random facts abt 'bots and/or ghosts!! :) Seriously I want to do this, guys. If there's already something like this out there, pls tell me. K thx.
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Hahahahahahha I laughed so hard at the first sentence! Having the same problem with emotions over here! But the best way to cope is to avoid everything TVD related. In the beginning it's VERY hard but after a while you stop thinking about it. My recipie: No more fanvideos. I'm not really supposed to be here either but today is an exception (a)-

Anyway, on to what I'm feeling about the hiatus:
ASDFJKLDHFJSGLJGJKBSGAAAHHH I WANT 4.16 NOW WHY DO THEY MAKE US WAIT? Okay I know the answer to that one... To make us feel exactly that way..Stupid television...

I like the ice cream smiley, though I prefer this one :3 b/c it's very cute :D
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BTW I was really drunk on TV.com yesterday so this is kind of the love child of that . . . (PS is that a bad idea? Probs a bad idea 2 B on the Internet whilst drunk =D.) Anyway.

WHAT NO MORE FANVIDEOS HOW WILL I SURVIVE???? Seriously. I watch interview w/ funny people in good tv shows as a cure for boredom. Being an unmarried, boyfriendless person w/ no social life what-so-ever gives me more free time than I know what to do with. I will try. That's all I can promise.

I second that emotion. I LOLed so hard at this part: ASDFJKLDHFJSGLJGJKBSGAAAHHH
The best.

Agreed. So cute. :3
Still gonna stick w/ the ice cream tho.
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That depends on how drunk you are ;) As long as you remember parts of it the next day, you'll be fine. Also, drunk Inigo, kinda hillarious. Pet robot <3

But now we have made it for a little more than a week. Only two weeks to go! :D Can I join your forever-alone.club btw? Another tip for surviving the hiatus: find another obsession. Mine is Castle. I'm only a few episodes behind now!
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Seriously though, I'm feeling the need of a shrubbery. =D

Yeah, it's pretty weird. Honestly, most of the characters don't grow personalities (or shrubberies, they took 14 episodes to even MENTION shrubberies! And only in the briefest way possible!!) until a bunch of episodes in. Anyway. Drawing lines (or circles, circles are way more fun) between TLG and TVD is SO EASY. I'll show you.

Mads & Caroline
Great friends, influential to the storyline.

Sutton & Katherine
Kinda evil, female lead's look-alike, impersonate female lead tons, 'wanted to do the right thing but screwed up in a HUGE way . . . sorry?' personalities.

Char & Bonnie
Look, all I know is that whenever they turn up on the screen I settle down for a nap.

Ethan & Stefan
Stefan's a little more boring than Ethan, but still. Good guy, ♥'s female lead SO MUCH. Loved the female lead's doppelganger/twin before her, now thinks she's a scumbag (true, but hurtful still, no?).

Thayer & Damon
AWESOME!!!! Seriously, Thayer is the best. Loving the female lead's doppelganger/twin made them do some bad stuff, but then they start liking the female lead and are a freakin' adorable couple. LOVE THAYER SO MUCH CAN'T EXPRESS THIS ON YOU ENOUGH!!!!

Alec/Ted & Klaus/Elijah
Kinda evil, but hard not to see them as a malevolent Easter Bunny. Though, of course, Klaus and Elijah are way hotter than Ted or Alec.

Kristen & Jenna
FREAKIN' CLUELESS ADULT GUARDIAN.

Laurel & [Sorry no comparison]
LAUREL IS THE F'ING BEST!! Laurel. Is. The. Best. Ever. Like, ever. Also Justin's weird. Just warning you. BTW DID I MENTION LAUREL IS THE BEST???? 'Cause she is. Also she's a musician. Girl after my own heart. I LOVE YOU LAUREL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As you can see, TONS of circles. :)

TLG is a great show. I recommend that you keep watching.

PS LAUREL IS THE BEST!! Also Thayer and Sutton. Mostly Thayer. And Laurel.
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Wesley is the best! Haha I know. FARFELKUGEL! :D
Now give me... ANOTHER SHRUBBERY!

Okay, watching the lying game is the weirdest experience ever!. I just saw the pilot and is was like watching TVD without the vampires (The Diaries..?). I mean we have Elena and Katherine. Her two friends who kinda reminds you of Bonnie and Caroline (maybe they are very different I dunno since I only saw the pilot...). Again, this girl REALLY reminds you of Nina Dobrev. Although less awesome b(c Nina is the best. No one will ever be as awesome as Katherine but I guess Sutton will do for now..

So it was all kinda creepy. At first I wanted to put the blond guy as Stefan or Matt but then I realised that he was kind of a jerk so I guess he can be S01-Tyler... Man, I ca't get over how weird it was..
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By the way I just realized I know WAY too much about television . . . At least most comedic/full on hilarious movies. Haha. Mel Brooks is my personal idol. I guess that's kind of sad. Most people would be like Gandhi or something. Me, I'm like, 'Chips n' dip at my place while we watch a marathon of Monty Python!!' That quote basically describes my life. Very sad.

On that note, The Big Lebowski, anyone?? =D
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YAY!!! Basically my life goal is to make people watch (and enjoy, but even if they don't it probably won't stop me from trying) the shows that I do. =D

'What about the R.O.U.S.'s?' - Buttercup

'The Rodents Of Unusual Size? Oh I'm sure they're not real.' - Westley (PS this is the same actor that plays Robin in Men in Tights!!)

*Westley promptly gets attacked by a giant rat*

Me - 'LOLOLOLOL'

I like the quote 'You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is not to get into a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this: never go against a Sicillian when DEATH is on the line!!' - Vizzini

Ah, I love you Princess Bride.

Sweden eh? . . . A few months maybe. Don't worry though, Mongo's very patient!!

YAY!! Then we can quit watching TVD, start watching TO (The Originals) and continue watching The Lying Game!! (PS We still need a Caroline fix . . . ideas?)
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Hmm.. I live in Sweden so I'd say that's a too far away :(

The R.O.U.S. are the best haha :D

Oooh this seems like a good show! Okay this rant made me very excited. I have to watch this! If we can't have Katherine of TVD I guess this migh do as a temporary replacement. Haha as you said, i seems like a better version of the parent trap. I loved that movie when I was a kid. Tomorrows mission: Watch the pilot episode of The Lying Game.

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OH YEAH!! Duh. Can't believe I forgot to mention this EXTREMELY IMPORTANT part of The Lying Game. One of the twins (I'm not gonna hold this back . . . it's Sutton) both looks AND acts, almost EXACTLY like Katherine. Same hairstyle, same kind of tortured, 'I was trying to do the right thing but totally screwed up my and everyone else's life . . . sorry?' personality. And she's Katherine in the best way Katherine can be. Detective Katherine. 'Member from S3? Yup. Sutton's the best basically. Even her twin Emma isn't totally awful like Elena is. So it's like the doppelgangers except the 'good' one isn't A) a mass murderer or B) insufferably boring. I can't express on you how good this show is. Possibly because I haven't watched any of those other shows where there are twins and they impersonate each other all the time. That's probably it, but I'm telling you, this is even better than the Parent Trap, and that movie was awesome.

Whew. Just ranted for WAY longer than I thought I was going to.
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Hmm . . . Depending on how far you live from San Francisco, maybe next weekend? Haha. =D

I'll definitely check it out. I'm on the seventh episode of The Lying Game, and already the girl's entire life is falling apart in the BEST way. Highly recommended. Saw Princess Bride again last night and almost died laughing!! =D

See ya next weekend when you get to meet Mongo!! PS If you want him to love you tons, just bring him some beans and/or buy him a Candygram!! He loves making friends so much, it's adorable. He's a robot though so it's hard. He's kind of like my own personal dimple-less Klaus. =D
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Good! Yay true love! When can I meet this pet robot of yours?

Castle is kinda like TVD. It is bad but actually kinda good haha. It doesn't really make sense b/c they get medical results in lite three seconds and after a while it all gets very predictable. But you don't really care about the cases they are solving, it is the characters that you are invested in. So as I said, kinda like TVD. The story isn't always that great but we love the characters and we really care about what happens to them (except April ofc)!

No I haven't! But I look forward to it hihi :D
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AND YES. You may absolutely join my club. Have you gotten your badge yet?? I'll FedEx it to you!! =D
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Not too drunk. =D Though yeah, I just remembered Inigo's drinking problem in Princess Bride. LOL. Mongo's my fav robot of them all. I went into the robot store and it was love at first awkwardly-strong-robot-hand-shake. (Like puppies!!)

I haven't seen Castle . . . I assume from your comment it's good? I just started The Lying Game, and the first half of the pilot's good!! I like The Palace too. And of course I could just watch every single Mel Brooks movie ever or Princess Bride like a hundred times! =D
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And yet even in such an episode I found that the best scene was once again between Stefan and Damon remembering that despite betrayal and Elena, brotherly love never dies.
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I really just cried my eyes out when Elena broke down. The show in and of itself is ridiculous in so many ways, but somehow it keeps getting to me. Nina Dobrev really is a very good actress.
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Easily the best episode of the season with so muck packed into it. The writers did well in handling the departing of a central character and i guess as much with Jeremy's quest coming to an end there is no need of keeping around. Elena's handling of his death through denial then grief was well plotted and kudos to Nina Dobrev at her finest hour. I thought the sire bond thing was broken when Damon set her free a few episode earlier so was surprised to see it working on Elena.

Bonnie is the center to Good and Evil and it will boil down to her choosing between her friends and bringing back Jeremy/Grams.
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I think the sire bond was 'postponed' or something. 'Cause he only told her to get the f out of his pad, and didn't stay away forever. I think.
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Season finale: all good and bad mosters of all times come back to life and can't die anymore. Humanity is basically killed off and Season 5 is a endless battle royal. DONE!
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OMG DO U READ THE SCRIPTS????? PS If this comes true, can I burn you for being a witch? You'll get to hang out with Jasmine Guy!!
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nol I don't^^ no spoilers don't worry.
Just an idea I like
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Bonnie is annoying, that is all I have to say about this episode.
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I'd like to point out some things:

1) The cure was supposed to heal vampirism. Silas was a witch (out of topic: isn't witch the female version of wizard?), hence the cure would make him become a witch again. He would still be supernatunal so in case he died, he would go to the "supernatural gravevard".

2) Something doesn't sound right with Silas' story. The witch was that mean to sentence herself and all her witch-kind to isolation? (remember Silas was the only vampire back then) It doesn't sound to be just a love/heart-broken story. Silas wants to release all the dead just to meet his love after 2.000 years? No, there should be something more than that.

3) Silas is able to picture stuff to other people's heads. This is not what a vampire can do (at least if the victim is awaken). Thus, he is not a normal vampire. But he can't be a witch either as then he wouldn't need Bonny.

4) He haven't used Sein's body, that's for sure. He either exists only in Bonny's head, or he is there and changes his form, or he is there and plays with their minds, masking himself in their heads.

5) Silas is so powerful. Can't die and has no weaknesses. That is beyond original vampires that can die, be daggered, are effected by vervain (and were supposed to be weak against shine too but maybe they dealed with this as they were alive for 1000 years -so they become stonger). Klaus had to find a doublecanger, a witch, a werewolf, a vampire, a moonstone just to become a hybrid (which seems weaker than vampire-witch Silas). I wonder what happens to whoever drinks Silas' blood. And what happens if they die with it in their system. Nevertheless, Silas must have a weakness. It is not "realistic" not to do so.
Note: Klaus etc were supposed to be the originals. That's fine with Silas as he is not the same kind of vampire. The problem is that Ether was supposed to be the original witch and this does conflict with Silas and the other witch.

6) Elena said at the phone that Jeremy was dead (many hours before setting the fire). Fire would be a good way to cover things if she hasn't done that. But she did.

7) Elena should not be shired to Damon (at least till she switches the humanity on again - if then). She should have no feelings for him and not care if he feels unhappy with her behaviour.

8) If a cure was created once, it should be possible to create it again. Bonny (if not now, after killing 12 more people) should have enough power to do that. But I wonder if the cure can work only on Silas (knowing that he is one of his kind) and not at any other vampire. They may need to create a different cure, based on the different spell that was used to make them vampires. Ether could create it (as long as she returned from the dead).


--> My prediction is that if this is going for a 5th season, something big should happen; a chaos should be created (so they have something to do at the next season). The problem is that if they "deleted that supernatural cemetary", they would need hundrends of actors (the people from the tomp, jeremy, jenna, alaric, 2 originals, ether, manson, lexi, and like 100 more people we've met at all the 4 years). Not to mention that Bonny should get back not only her grandma but also her 1) grand-grandma, 2) grand-grand-grandma, 3) grand-grand-grandma, ... 20) grand-...-grand-grandma as they were witches. That's dozens of side-stories that will have to be coved and not many care a lot. Too much mess to deal with at a tv show. Too many actors to find and pay.
On the other hand, it would be really cool to have some all powerful witches back there. Ether and Bennets could find a way to kill again the vampires (or most of them). Or just kill Ether's children so as to kill every vampire at the world.
But Silas should have a plan on his own.
To put it in a nutshell, I'd love to see everyone returning to the show and create some mess. There are 2 problems though: 1) I don't believe it'll really happen cause it would be to hard to find and pay all the actors, 2) even if it happened, it would require ultimate skill from the scriptwriters to make it interesting and not boring (cause of the side stories).
I guess we will find out in Summer.
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1. In TVD, 'warlock' is the male form of 'witch,' as seen from that creep Luca who later became a fire demon. Also Shane said that 'He can't be a vampire AND a witch' thereby saying that since Silas ISN'T a witch, and can't do magic, he must be a vampire. It was also said that the 'cure' is just a cure for immortality, not specifically vampires.

3. This has been answered below, but vampires can implant visions into sleeping people's minds, but not when they're awake. But there was that one vampire Sage in S3 who could mind read, or something like that.

5. Esther is the Original Witch, as in the witch (the last remaining one, anyway, her children were witches before she turned them into vampires) of the Original vampire family. Not the first ever witch, who would probably be either Silas or his 'love' who made the purgatory.

6. Elena's an idiot. This has been established.
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I didnt have the strength to read through ALL of those comments so maybe I'm gonna repeat what somebody else said, and apologize for that.

First of all, I don't think Silas is a vampire. They said the cure is for immortality hence for vampires. I think he used to be a witch and became immortal (hence the no weakness thing) but he may not be able to do Expression and that's why he's gonna need Bonnie. I think that he stopped being a witch when he became immortal.

I love the way they made Elena go through her grief it was really well done and Nina Dobrev was amazing in that final scene where she first wanted to burn her house down. Though her cover story shouldn't be working if April thinks about it because she called on their house phone and Elena told her J. was dead. So basically, the fire doesn't make any sense. I hope April will realise that even though it might not be very interesting.

What IS going to be the last 12 people sacrifice?? Vampires? Werewolves? I think it would be great if Bonnie did it and would go totally crazy but I don't think they'll have the guts to go through with it, it's a CW show after all!! Can't wait to see the next one!
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I don't know if it's mentioned in the show, but shouldn't it be witches? I mean... 12 humans, 12 vampires and 12 werewolfs (12 hybrids=12/12). The only spiece left is witches. Wonder where they will find 12 witches though (don't forget they have some powers to resist).
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What was the ritual anyway? Just to kill 12 humans/vamps etc.? Not in a special way, not on a special day, just to kill them all at once?
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iathen your theories are interesting. However, I still find it strange that hybrids were part of the ritual since Klaus was the first one!
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I think so but there is something that doesn't really make sense to me. It's supposed that the Earth is marked with the 12 deaths. So it's not about the witch but about Earth. Hence, not only Bonny but also every witch that knows expression should get more powerful with each mass-kill.

Damon also killed 12 vampyres in past so the Earth was already marked with their deaths. Thus, it was not needed to kill 12 hybrids but just 12 werewolfs. Or... as long as Damon marked Earth the witch made a spell so the marks left and they had to mark again??? If so, then if one witch that dwels at the opposite sight of Earth knows expression and makes a spell that requires the human+vampire marks (for example) meanwhile, then they will have to kill another 12 of each.


Either way there is a flaw in this story. Wish they would give sufficient explanations in the future.
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About 1, I just said it because somebody thought that as long as he drunk the cure, he would become human so go at the right side. But he would be a witch so no.

2. I know what will happen. It is just too much trouble to be done just to meet his true love. 2000 years have past anyway, he could try to fell in love with another woman. Adding to this, how overeacting is to create a supernatural cemetary just to punish somebody for not loving you, I can only assume that there is something more than this story. The story must be just a myth covering something else.

3. Damon did that while Rose was asleep. And other vampires have planted dreams to other people/vampires in past. But never when they were not sleeping.

6. Yes but what if she said that already to somebody else? Before they put in act the cover story. We will eventually find out at the next episode.

8. I think you just have to know the spell that made something so as to create the counter-spell. (But maybe my mind is messed with so many supernatural books I read so I can't say for sure). Just analyze a sample may souldn't word as you need to cast a spell at that time too.
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1. If Silas dies, either by old age (if he drinks the cure) or as a vampire, he goes to the other side with Qetsiyah, that's her plan.
2. without the veil on the other side, could also mean that supernatural beings could go to where normal human beings go when they die, Silas could reunite with his true love.
5. I think Esther is not the original witch, she's the Original witch, (the witch of the Original vampires), not the origin of witches.
6. She does not need a cover story for April, she knows about vampires already.
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1) That's the point, "the other side" was created so that Silas couldn't be reunited with his love even if he was cured and killed.
3) Damon can do that, that's what he did to Rose.
8) I thought that, too, why don't they analyze a sample and try to duplicate it? Too scientific, I guess
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Nobody will ask any questions?

Sure they will.

Hey, Elena, how come your house burnt down? Things like that don't happen everyday, right?
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It's Mystic Falls, things like that do happen every day. Also I believe the few surviving citizens have a "don't ask" policy
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Don't ask, don't tell. Definitely. Otherwise the conversation would go like this:

'Hey, Elena. How come your bro died? PS When was the last time you were in school? Last year?' - Some Guy

'LOLZ. He died. Also it was two years ago.' - Elena

'OMG!!' - Some Guy

'It's Mystic Falls.' - Elena

'Oh yeah, duh. Nevermind.' - Some Guy

See? 'Member when Liz said 'It's Mystic Falls, this is probably the LEAST crazy thing I've seen.' LOLOLOLOL.
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So no more sexy neck? :(

Easily the best episode of the season!
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Not to mention MATT- Matt lost his little brother( Jeremy) and Vicki and he doesnt even really have a mom and Elena didnt even bother asking him how he was doing- she's so self centered
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I'm a little pissed that EVERYTING seems to revolve around Elena- Bonnie's mom left her and her grams died- she barely got any attention!
then Caroline's dad dies.. um i dont remember anyone showing her sympathy.
Damon kills Mason, Tyler's dad dies, and so does his mom and hes forced to be Klaus's little slave, then he gets run out of town and looses the only person he has- Caroline! Hwy isnt anyone concerned about him ? Stefan lost Lexi and no one even gave him that much attention, same with when Damon lost Alaric. But when Elena looses people, suddenly the world stops spinning and everyone does everything they can for her !
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She's the main protagonist. that's how it's supposed to be. :)
But I don't think it's true that they do not show sympathy every time loved ones of the other characters die. Elena was with Bonnie when Grams died, she was worried about her the whole winter break. Caroline comforted Bonnie when Abby turned. Elena stayed with Caroline when her dad decided not to go through the transition. Mason didn't really get along with them, and the gang went to both of Tyler's parents' memorial. Tyler pissed Klaus off, he did it to himself. Elena comforted Stefan when Lexi was killed. Elena was also affected with Alaric's passing.
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Also this is freakin' JERHULK. He's hot. Not hotter than Thayer from The Lying Game (GREAT SHOW, highly recommended) but still. Hot.
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actually stefan's the main protagonist. & I lLOVED TVD, but other shows are WAY better at handling all the character's and giving them good storylines and characterization than this show is. ANd in all honesty, I don't remember her comforting Caroline. She was all " Oh supernatural, you have to understand" .. she used to be SO empathetic in season 1, when she was actually a friend to Bonnie and the others.
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Just wondering but wouldn't Elena shutting off her humanity also get rid of the sire bond. Since its her love for Damon that created it in the first place. I think it would be interesting to see if they have just created a monster none of them can control.
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OMG R U EINSTEIN???? Brilliant.
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Please let this happen!
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precisely my thoughts
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wondering also if maybe they killed off jeremy could we see him surface up on the originals if its picked up? just a thought
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I am just oddly glad that a show for once tackled someone dying and being left lying around with some realism. Yea, sometimes I was a little "Oh, ugh...ew" when the doc mentioned him bloating and the smell was mentioned also...but honestly too many shows act like a dead body is like a bouquet of roses that even though TECHNICALLY dead they can sit around looking real and smelling great for a week before getting a little wilted. Doesn't happen, as much as that would be nice....dead is dead and its far from a sexy process.
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So true. Too many shows don't actually realize death is messy. Literally and figuratively.
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Before last week's ep, I was in denial about Jeremy's death. I wouldn't believe that he was dead. But after seeing the latest ep, I think that the shock and realization is starting to set in. I HATE that Jeremy is dead. He was one of my fave characters and one of the few characters left that I was able to tolerate. I get that this was done to move the story forward and to push Elena into shutting her humanity off except I don't think that this is worth it if it's not going to last beyond the end of the season. I'm excited to see this new side of Elena however, they could've chosen another way that would've caused her to flip the switch instead of killing off the last remaining family member that she had. Because killing off Jeremy is just cruel and brutal to her after everything she's been through. In the long run, I hope that his death will have a meaning and isn't pointless and that it'll have a hand in successfully integrating Elena's humanity with her vampirism to a healthy balance so that she'll still be the "compassionate" Elena that we know along with the strong and independent vampire I'm hopeful that she'll become as a result of this. Because we can't always have the emotionless Elena who refuses to deal with his death. I'm still holding out hope that Jeremy will be brought back to life possibly by Silas or Bonnie even though

the sight of Elena burning his body along with the house has diminished it a bit.
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Ok... This episode was like marmite - one minute I was loving it and then the next... pure hate.

1. HATE: BONNIE Jeez just when I thought she couldn't get any more annoying she goes crazy. Yay! Not. I know I'm going to hate her part in all of this, whatever she does. She's basically going to go all evil witch Willow on us and it's not going to be as good. Seriously agree with the Buffy comparison.

2. LOVE: ELENA. Normally I can't stand Elena but wow... her performance was heartfelt. I almost cried. And she mentioned Alaric. YAY!

3. HATE: WHERE WAS KATHERINE?! I got so excited when Katherine showed up at the end of the last episode that I almost wet myself. But my excitement quickly turned to disappointment when she was NOWHERE to be found for this ep. Things are always interesting when Katherine is around - next week Elena looks like she's going to be channelling some of Katherine though so that's a plus I suppose. I wonder what she'll do with the cure though - she won't want it for herself I don't think, because then that gives Klaus even more of an excuse to go after her. But there was that New Orleans name-drop again - I'm intrigued.

4. LOVE: Jeremy Dying. I know it was sad etc. But let's be honest, it was time! He's died about a million times - his character just gets dragged through the mud most of the time anyway - he's only really around for the plot to develop these days. I think it was for the best. Though I really hope this purgatory stuff doesn't last too long because I don't really want him to come back. Sorry, but I don't.

5. HATE: Silas pretending to be Shane. The writers have already done the whole body switching - we've had Klaus as Alaric etc. It's time for something different now please. And again, another Buffy comparison - Silas is a bit First Evilesque for me. It's just not very original.

Yeah, I can't really think of anything else I loved about that episode. Roll on next week. All this chatter about the cure will be gone THANK GOD and instead we can have some good old fashioned vampire good/evil dilemmas instead.
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I think a lot of people have a either love it or hat it attitude about this episode. Glad to see someone else who's conflicted. (PS Do you feel the same way about Rebekah, the other thing people either love or hate? And it's sad 'cause most people do the latter.) :(
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When Rebekah's being fun I really like her. When she's being all mopy and feeling sorry for herself she's just another Elena and I can't be bothered to watch her screen time. Again, she's a marmite character. I go through phases with all of them to be honest. I think the only characters I like consistently are Katherine and Klaus - go figure I choose the evil ones. That probably says more about me. ha.
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Villains are so much better. More interesting to seek out their motives and derive pleasure in finding out what is going on in their minds that make them do the things that they do. I could go into several long paragraphs about why the human definition of 'good' and 'evil' as well as 'heroes' and 'villains' is completely unjustified and ridiculous but I'm kind of tired right now. I'll just leave you with the knowledge that villains are far more entertaining and fun to watch (or read about) than heroes and you're not alone in your preference of their plots.

Sorry for the length. I've got opinions, if you know what I mean. :)
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LOLZ, spelling. That first 'hat' I meant 'hate' curse you, 'e' key!!
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Totally agree with you about Silas pretending to be Shane.....I have been complaining about it since Friday! Someone pointed out that maybe Bonnie seeing Shane is all her head....we shall see.
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I'd agree that seeing Shane is just in Bonnie's head. Makes sense since we already know that Silas can project realistic looking people to anyone and Silas-Shane hasn't appeared to anyone but Bonnie at this point.
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Okay, here is what I don't get: The Cure is supposed to turn supernatural creatures/vampires/immortals back into humans... If Silas had taken the cure and died, why should he have ended up on "the other side". If that place is a purgatory for supernatural beings that would not have been a problem. I guess either there is a completely different agenda here or they need to explain it by saying "Silas would have been turned back into a human witch and would still have kept his supernatural qualities sans immortality." . Has this been mentioned and I tuned out or is this a logical gap?

Somehow I have the suspicion that Silas' great love was a supernatural being herself and he does not want to go to people heaven, but rather resurrect/free her from supernatural purgetory. Maybe Quetsiya made that special hell not for silas but for her romantic rival. Where did Q by the way? Is she still alive? Is she herself on the other side?

I think we will get Jeremy back. They are simply running out of ties to mystic falls. Why should our merry group of vampires stay there, when there is nothing really keeping them there? Matt will obviously die next season in a tragic oops-I-forgot-you-were-still-human-cliff-jumping-excursion and Sheriff Forbes... well....

Is Silas haunted by Jeremy now?
I still think that Quetsiya turns out to be a good person. Was she the witch that taught Mommy Original? She knew how to make someone immortal but didn't want to help because she had suffered the consequences of this curse/gift?
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also I was wondering - If Katherine took the cure, would that affect Elena? Doppelgänger and all?
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That's an interesting theory...
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PS Were u sad when Elena said Alaric no need any bourbon no more? I wuz vewy vewy sad. My eyes r leakin' right now. Ricy want loads o' bourbon in purgatory, O Foolish Mass Murderer. Shame on u.
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RIP JTVS. (JerHulk the Vampire Slayer). LOLs. Talk about Buffy referencing!!
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i have a thought if bonnie does bring the veil down so to speak would all the supernatural come back evil or would the be human again.But then that would be real boring story.I think if jeremy does come back he would be back as a guardian angel or something like that the reason i think this is because i seen a interview with the writer where she said jeremys body burned and is no longer on this earth does that have a specific meaning of anything only time will tell.
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wonder what his role will be in his next 3 appearances on the show will be
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3 appearances? JERHULK U R NOT DEAD???? YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

I think probs as a ghost or hallucination or a corpse. If he's in a flashback, somebody'd better flashback to that time he was JerHulk and ripped his shirt off. :)
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yes he is in 3 episodes bring it on ,american gothic and the originals hope its not flashbacks that be a waste of time
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Unless he ripped his shirt off. LOLZ there's an episode called American Gothic. (That's an episode name, right?) Relax, writers. This is JerHulk S1 anymore. Move on.

PS ORIGINALS!!!!!!!
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also i want more caroline & stefan, caroline & bonnie & elena scenes, klaus and stefan, damon and stefan scenes ! stefan needs a storyline that doesnt revolve around Elena. Same with Damon ! honestly. Give Ian & Paul something to work with other than "do everything for Elena"! Stefan had a great thing going on with Rebekah, annoyed they ended it so quickly ! and not just a romance.. maybe they look for something that has NOTHING to do with Elena but they have to find it for themselves?
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Anyone else disappointed with this purgatory crap? This essentially undermines every death so far and I guess season 4 will end with that shroud fallen. Hopefully interesting people will come back like I don't know Alaric, Qetsiyah, Silas lover, the rest of the originals (I can't wait to see Kol shit his pants when he sees Silas for the first time), ...Tatia! 3 doppelgangers will be fun, I hope she has a different personality than Katherine and Elena, Elena is becoming more and more like Katherine.

However, who ever dies after that purgatory is fallen will be permanent dead like humans, "peace" as they say so whoever dies after that will be probably be gone.

I hope they bring back Katherine on screen or they can just kill her off, the same with Elijah. I don't like that they are only in the background, it blows.
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BTW they can do three doppelgangers, but I would still prefer if they kept it at two but still brought back Tatia, just so they can have Elena chase a purple bunny into a volcano or something. =D
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How abt they go to de spin off?? Huh? 2gether. Kalijah!!!!
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also.. please give bonnie a personality other than being a witch ! i love that shes actually getting a storyline, but we still have yet to learn about what she likes and dislikes, what she does when shes not doing magic ! or just kill her off. Kat Graham deserves SO much better.same with Elena. Caroline's the only one with a personality!
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When she's not doing magic she takes loads of witch drugs. :)
She likes witch drugs.
She dislikes not having witch drugs.

Basically her personality is witch drugs. :)

HOPE I WUZ LOADS OF HELPFUL!!!!!!

LOLs.
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But i hated how elena expected bonnie to come and save the day ! was I the only one who didnt feel for her ? She barely had any scenes with Jeremy in a LONG time and she wasn't a very good sister to him. I mean , those two definitely should have had more scenes together ! I felt for Matt more when he saw jeremy's body... just uf
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UR mashed potato tower wuz leakin' bro.
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i love that this show puts so much emphasis on family ! whether it be matt and bonnie and their flight parents, carolines mom not accepting her, damon and stefan sibling bond, the original family bond, elena and the loss of her family. tyler and the loss of his mother . just amazing ! i need more sheriff forbes & caroline scenes please, and more bonnie and her dad scenes ! this show seriously makes us ask important questions.. how do i deal with loss ? how do i deal with betrayal ? how do i deal with addiction ? how do I deal with feeling alone ? What is the defintion of love ? of family ? of a hero ?
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How do I deal w/ insert emoticon here?

Flip de switch.

Not great advice, really.
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not advice... but its basically when happens to people when theyre going through what Elena is... they people a completely different person.
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This is TV still though. There's freakin' hotness like Joseph Morgan on TV. Crazy sh*t goes down on TV my friend. (No, compared to Joseph Morgan's hotness vampires and werewolves are totes NBD.)
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I'm just here for that Bamon hug.....not ashamed to admit that <3 LOL
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Bamon . . . :)

Bane . . . :)
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That was easily one of the best if not the best episode of the series. For once everyone was used appropriately they had just the right amount of individuals on the show and they weren't just cluttering the episode up. Everyone was so likeable and necessary, and it was just brilliantly written. Everyone was truly fantastic and shining but Nina Dobrev gave a masterful performance. Masterful.
-The grief in this was too much. I mean it was gut wrenching. The way in which they showed the journey of Elena going through all this stages of grief...masterfully done. By the time she reached that last bit...it about killed me. So much so that I actually found myself envying Matt in the last scenes because he was able to cry his eyes out and I couldn't.
-That moment when Elena finally accepted, to the point where she was for once being the rational and practical one while also appearing manic, and no one even knew how to respond to it...as she tossed lighter fluid everywhere... incredible. And those lines...when she mentioned that bit about the family plot being full, and again they so brilliantly chose to stop and acknowledge just how many people they've lost...her in particular from her parents, to Jenna, to Uncle Daddy John, and Alaric...I mean damn. I totally understood her wanting to burn that place to a crisp, because who would want to stay there after all of that? there was nothing left for her there anymore. Gut wrenching realization. Burning the Gilbert house down was like the end to an era. Her trusty converse being in the wreckage, her diary, Jer's sketchbooks...a slow burn. I totally had that haunted Anya song playing in my head while I watched. I'm sure the Gilbert neighbors were pleased to have them leaving the neighborhood what with hacking hybrids on the front porch and flying white picket fences and soccer balls throw windows and what not.
-I loved the acknowledgment of grief and helplessness and just everything, that everyone was feeling, and for once it didn't come off as let's all sit here and cry because something happened to Elena, it just felt authentic. I mean Rebkeah had a bit of remorse that was just real. Caroline transported her neurotic ways into making phone calls to Tyler that she knew he probably wouldn't get but still, and cleaning. Matt just tried to hold everything together for everyone else, but his breakdown in the car was just insanely sad. I mean that kid is losing everything regularly. Stefan brooded but for once it wasn't annoying brooding it was just...real, as he basically watched Elena fall apart, and finally got to a point where he could sort of tell his brother that despite all of their issues he's glad that he still has him around. Damon did as Damon does...he doesn't do well with emotions, which is why he couldn't even really respond to his bro in one of my FAVE Salvatore Bro moments ever! Seriously I'm always, and forever Team Salvatore. This show to me is about the relationship between them more than anything else. Anyhoo, that's why I love him so much, he know his limits...he knew he couldn't cope with a messed up emotional Elena, he can acknowledge that he isn't cut out for that nor is he enough. So he set out to do what he could. Bring Bonnie back, not because he expected her to have a magical solution and not just because Elena needed Bonnie, but because they all did. That startling acknowledgment that they just can't afford to lose anyone else was fantastic. Finally. That may have made the first time in this series that anyone actually gave a damn about Bonnie just because....and I loved it, but naturally what made it better was the fact that the guy who probably gives the least damn about her was the one to bring her home. Matt didn't seem to get the Bonnie and Damon dynamic, but Elena sort of did, which made me smile a bit. Especially when Damon found her and actually hugged her. Somewhere between season 1 and now they stopped just hating each other to hate each other and accepted each other as allies. Like pesky siblings or something. I don't know. It worked. I loved it. I mean it spoke volumes that he could tell just how far gone Bonnie was and didn't even burst her little bubble as she hopped out of the car and damn near skipped into the Gilbert house.
-Which brings me to Bonnie. She's been brilliant. Her grief manifested itself in her basically becoming psychotic and it was kinda painful and kinda awesome. She's flipped her shizz. I mean this Silas/ Shane combo is more powerful than that Poe Professor on The Following because Bonnie is just gone...and I love it. She isnt the judgmental witch going on about not killing people and not upsetting nature, she's basically become a walking freaking time bomb and now the little bit of control she did have is more than likely gone now that Jeremy is dead, and that may make her someone they have to keep an eye on or even fight against, because she's gung ho on killing folk and unleashing every supernatural beast imaginable.
-Elena flipped her switch. So freaking beautiful! Loved that scene, right down to the subtle shift in her facial expression as she went from bawling her eyes out to just looking dead in the eyes. This will finally be Elena in full on vampire mode, and it was the perfect opportunity to show it, because there is nothing left for her to stay human. Damon's logic...though often meeting much disapproval is almost always effective if not necessary. There was no choice but to force her to do that, because she would have just fell apart completely without out and everyone sort of knew which is why in a way Caroline and Stefan couldn't even protest it too much. Elena may just be season 1 Damon now and I'm looking forward to that. With her being like that, it makes me wonder how much control Damon can have on her now if the sire bond is based off of emotions. But Season 1 Damon Elena...and psycho Bonnie? Jer's gone and Matt's distraught....there is like no one left to be the "voice of reason". This should be good.
-I loved that Klaus wasn't in this. As much as I adore Klaus and JoMo, it felt good and reassuring being reminded that this show is capable of being great w/o the Originals. Because we've been relying on them for so long, that it almost felt like they became a crutch and taking them away with make the show somehow fail.
-Hopefully I'm not speaking too soon but it at least feels like we won't be dwelling on the love triangle too much anytime soon. Thank God.
-So either Shane/Silas was lying about Silas not possessing powers or someone is working with Silas to help him look like Shane. Another witch perhaps.
-I think given the circumstances Matt totally should have gotten the magic ring. Unless...it's being held captive by the Salvatore boys because somebody who is a vampire may end up being human sometime soon.
-I strongly suggest that the entire supernatural scooby doo gang take up residence in the Salvatore Mansion for everyone's safekeeping. Matt's an orphan and poor, he could use it. they clearly need to keep an eye on psycho Bonnie and I'm under the impression that before her father moved back to MF to become mayor she was living alone? Surely she can up and move into the Salvatore B&B (I'm thinking one of those B's stands for blood).
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Haha is it weird that I wait with anticipation for your comment/review to appear? B/c every week when I see your comment I'm like "Yay, finally! Bleu is here!". ;)
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SOCCER BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voice of reason is either Klaus, Katherine, Caroline, or Elijah.

TRAITOR!!!! How could you be glad my darling Klaus wasn't in this episode? That was the WORST part of this episode!!

Salvatore Bro's Blood and Breakfast? Naw.

Salvatore Bro's Blood FOR Breakfast? HELL YES. :)
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Still loved Klaus temper tantrum. Loved it.

LOL! I don't know if Katherine will fit the bill, but Klaus is oddly as insightful as he is psychotic, and Caroline has her moments...but only if she isn't still hung up on reaching out to Tyler. And Elijah isn't always around to compensate. But Matt is a mess, and Jer is gone, and Bonnie has flipped her shizz, and Elena is despondent and switched off her feelings. It's going to be itneresting watching Stefan, Damon, Caroline try to compensate for the most humany of the crew not being all there.

You know I loves me some Klaus, but if he was in this episode it would have been a misplacement and detracted away from the magic of this episode. Plus, as I said before, we have to start remembering that this show can be great w/o him, especially since he and Bex and Elijah will be off in NO soon.

Salvatore Bunnies and Blood. Salvatore Bed and Blood. Salvatore Bunnies, Bourbon, Beds, Breakfast, and Blood.
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Klaus and Caroline then. Klaroline. :)
The worst thing about TVD is that Kalijah isn't real . . . (Also JerHulk's dead . . . *sobs*)

I guess . . . BTW what does NO stand for? I thought the spin off was called The Originals, which would be TO. =D LOLs.

Salvatore Bros. Bunnies, Bourbon, Silk-Sheeted Beds, Blood-Breakfast, and Blood. =D
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Elena has lost everything. It's scary to think what might happen next. I don't think she will become a ripper like Stefan, but whatever it is it will be bad. I don't understand why so many viewers dislike Elena (see comments below), except maybe that the heroine of a story is often a bit more boring than other characters. Not the actor's fault. Anyway...I like her, and I'm sure her journey back to humanity will be rewarding, as was Stefan's.

RIP, Jeremy Gilbert. We will miss you.

Great review by the way...I loved every bit of it.
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RIP JerHulk & UR Perfect Neck. Agreed.
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I love that Elena turned off her humanaty, because I had just enough of her. I'm actually kind of excited to see how she will turn out. Will she be like Catherine?
And. Yeay Shane dead. Could not been better tourn out from his story line.
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"She feels grief more than anymore else." Ugh, can we stop it with this narrative already? Elena is not an emotional unicorn. In fact, she's pretty damn selective with the empathy she decides to feel.
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If someone has to tell me something about a person, it's hard to believe it's actually true, you know? You do know.
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i agree.. hell REBEKAH is more empathetic than she is ! Elena didnt even bother comforting Rebekah when she found out that Klaus had killed Esther, or when Kol died ! and Rebekah is showing compassion for Elena's loss/ Ugh i hate elena!
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NOPE!! Instead she STABBED HER IN THE BACK. Tons. So mean. Totes agree with this.

PS Don't u h8 it when ur friends stab u? The worst, right?
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LOLs. 'emotional unicorn.'

Gotta be a bitch to introduce yourself:

'Hello, my name is Elena Petrova, Mass Murderer (also dating one - not a deal breaker), batshit crazy person, doppelganger, and emotional unicorn.' - Elena.
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you madam have my like,... you deserve it,...
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By the way, is anybody else concerned about "the other side"? Inviting every supernatural being that ever existed back with the living sounds like an awful plan (and would result in a crowded planet) but isn't it horrible to leave all this people to rot in a place created by jealous Qetsiyah? It's not just killers, I bet there are witches there who never hurt anyone.
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That's why Qetsiyah is basically the villain of this season. Silas just (seriously, it's weird) wants to kill himself, thereby giving the Scooby Gang zero cause to make him a worthwhile villain. Qetsiyah did some batshit crazy-ass stuff to Silas, making her the villain.
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What she did wasn't good I'll admit, but to say Silas isn't a worthwhile villain doesn't make much sense to me. There's a reason why there are rumours about him bringing about the end of the world and I'm interested in finding out what he was truly like before he became sealed to have those rumours begin.
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I suppose he has something up his sleeve 'cause from what I've heard he's just gonna get out of that tomb, eat a Belgium Waffle just 'cause he doesn't know what they are, and get that damn 'cure' so he can die already. Not intimidating or nuthin'.

My prediction is that When Silas eats the waffle he's gonna be so pleased with it's deliciousness that he's gonna negate dying and be pissed at the Scooby Gang for wanting him to die like he planned on anyway.

BTW Hello British friend!! ('U' in rumours. I ♥ the Brits!!)

PS #Waffles. =D
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Canada! Cool. (I don't get out much . . .) Us Americans just have to be different. (Ugh, so annoying. Driving on the wrong side of the road, the 'u' thing . . . It's crazy and frustrating.)
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No, I live in Canada. We spell it with a u also.
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Julian. I agree that Sean`s rep0rt is great...Make money with Google. $85 an hour! Seriously I don't know why more people haven't tried this, I work two shifts, 2 hours in the day and 2 in the evening…And what’s awesome is I’m working from home so I get more time with my kids. Here’s where I went, http://smarturl.it/GoogleCash
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PUT JOB ADDS ELSEWHERE. PLEASE. This site is for discussing Stand By Me, an episode of The Vampire Diaries. We don't care about your job. Shut up.
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But the weirdest ads must be the one about the DISH Hopper. They make sense in the beginning but then they don't. They confuse my little brain.
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Huh. Thought I responded to this but apparently not . . . anyway.

Hey do u know if my brain & ur brain get 2gether would it let u have a normal brain or no? Pls let me know b4 I make a life-changing mistake, k thx byeeee!!
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K. Next week? =D
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Hm I remember reading your reply.. Where did it go? Sadly I think it would just get like ten times weirder... But weird is cool sometimes so we'll just go with it :D
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Gotta say all these... uhmmm mostly pointless episode about going after the cure and blahblahbh.. FINALLY paid off after this one. This is the TVD i LOVE!

-Rebekah-- Girl why u walking around scared! u are an original! u cant Die! so unless silas has a white oak stake aint nothing to be afraid of... with that said.. u want to be human?? Gessh u wouldnt leave ur house.. And the plug about New Orleans... please dont tell me spinoff is going to be about finding the cure... I love me some Klaus and the gang.. but NOT LIKE THIS!!

-MATT- this is exactly how it needs to be... if there aint a point of u in the story.. just go away and come back when it counts.. Finally an episode where you wasn't back ground noise and you stole the SHOW!!!

-Talking about back ground noise.. APRIL.. can she just go AWAY forever....

-Also not feeling the whole Silas turning into Shane thing.. I knew it was Silas as soon as Bonnie started seeing Jere...

-Stefan & Caroline- Elena just lost her bro so quit talking behind her back and Judging as you always do.. she can hear u she is a vamp tooo... also didn't really like voice-mail thing..

-Damon- love the "i can almost hug you" to Bonnie.. also the "i am not enough not this time" and the look he gave Stefan like Bonnie crazy..

-Last but not least ELENA- Everything.. Well acted.. love the denial crazyness.. then the denial crazyness with some logic.. kinda bought into it.. then the Hope! then flat out Bonnie u crazy! leading to the burn this house.. to the switch.. Just Great!
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Death 2 April. I find it offensive that you're named after the month that The Originals airs. Shame on you.
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I'm really looking forward to the next episode. Because it looks like we will finally see some fangs and some blood drinking. You know, you've to have these things in a show about vampires!
I hope they are done with this cure thing, it has been getting more and more pathetic. And now it all looks like the curse of the sun and the moon - there's no curse, just a way to bring a new villain.
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miss price
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Duh.
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I'm usually not a huge fan (or any kind of fan) for the Elena centered episodes ('cause ugh, her brain . . . ) but this one wasn't terrible!! (Seriously, I'm just as surprised as you!)

Okay, you said something in this review that confused me. Is Shane Silas now? Is that who he jumped into? I thought that Silas had somehow gravely wounded (Silas, Licensed to Mortally Wound) Shane, and then Shane warned Rebekah about it? Which was good, 'cause the poor girl needs somebody to tell her to run from the big bad. *Eye roll*.

Notes/Quotes

I found this part really strange. Like, Elena COULDN'T smell her brother's body decaying? (Which, ewwww). Even freakin' Meredith Fell, the noted WORST DOCTOR IN TOWN (or anywhere) told our favorite brain damaged friend that her bro was SO DEAD ('He's, like, so dead, girl' - Meredith Fell W.D.I.T. (Worst Doctor In Town)). Seriously disturbing.

More rant about Tyler later. There was lots of pointless phone messaging going on in this episode, Caroline to Tyler, April (ugh, her again) to Elena. Doesn't the FBI track this stuff?

Erm, that would be 'worst cop/worse cop' They would both be terrible cops. 'You killed a guy? Sweet, join the club! You may now become a citizen of Mystic Falls!' - The police of our fav Brain Damaged town.

Vaughn . . . Whatever, he's got a cool name. :) He can stick around for as long as he wants!! Poor Rebekah. I guess I'm kinda running a guilt party here for ya', girl. Everybody h8s u, but I will b ur bestie!!

'Burn baby, burn!' - Elena.
She has been listening to too much punk (Totes a fan, girl, go 70's!!!!) And her journal burning? I smiled so hard at that . . . H8 u Elena's Journal. U were the worst, and will NOT BE MISSED BY ANYONE!

I think it's been too long since Rebekah's gotten a shirtless hug from someone who loves her . . . (Stefan doesn't count 'cause he don't love her loads). I bet she wishes she had two dashing 'Italians' to dote after her every move!

Uh, YEAH! Duh, Matt. Get with the times, man! Haven't you seen the Big Bus? "Eat one foot and they call you a cannibal." Jeez.

#DamonLogic. Somebody start a tumblr.

That's some Damon Logic right there. Brilliant!!

THINGS THAT WERE MISSED BY ME:

KLAUS
KLAUS
KLAUS
KLAUS
JOSEPH MORGAN
JOSEPH MORGAN
JOSEPH MORGAN
JOSEPH MORGAN'S ACCENT
JOSEPH MORGAN'S EYES
KLAROLINE
KLEFAN
KLAUS
KLAUS
(You see where I'm going with this, right?)
I NEED KLAUS IN MY LIFE PRONTO, PEOPLE!! Get with the program!! U R sinking my boat ('cause 'ships?)
Klaus is the best character on this or any currently running (settle, Peter Dinklage, wait for March 31) TV program. ANGRY as F u guyz.

OTHER THINGS MISSED BY ME:

KATHERINE! (Duh)
ELIJAH!! (Again, duh)
Kalijah :)
Silas (him being in Shane doesn't count)
More shots of Elena's diary burning (didn't give me enough, u guyz. I need more time to revel in it.)
JERHULK!!!!! (R U Gone 4eva now? *sobs* NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!)
Bane
Liz Forbes and New Mayor Guy romance. (Seriously, fan names, anyone??)

THINGS THAT WERE IN IT (THAT I LIKED):

Shane dying in the woods. (DIE ALREADY, you freaking A-Hole. First you were against killing 36 people, then you did it anyway, and told Bonnie you didn't. Then you told her you did but it was cool 'cause you could bring them all back, now you're saying you can only bring the hybrids back? WTF? Choose already, you douche-bag!)

Elena's diary burning (even that small enjoyment . . . )

Damon's car (missed u)

THINGS THAT WERE IN IT (THAT I DIDN'T LIKE):

Elena's brain

Bonnie's brain

Damon's brain

Stefan's brain

Caroline's brain

Pretty much everyone's brain was running on low juice Thursday. Except Jer's, 'cause his brain wasn't running at all . . .



And that about ties it up. Other than that, here are some

FINAL NOTES:

See ya', Gilbert House!! I liked how Stefan was like, 'but this set . . . it's so expensive!' when Elena was trying to burn it. LOL.

Bye JerHulk. You will be missed . . . A lot. By me.

As usual, if I missed anything, fill in below!

BYE!!!!!
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I feel sad now 'cause it looks like nobody noticed my GOT reference which I worked really hard to put in . . . (SRSLY, brainstormed real hard for, like, a minute.)
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Also, another thing they had in this episode that I liked:
A New Orleans (aka The Originals) reference being made!! Excited!!
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seems like Hayley( I do not care if I spelled her name wrong ) is gonna be a big part of the original's plot,... damn it,...
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If she is Klaus's romantic interest I will get together a group of people to find Julie Plec and shake some sense into her.
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Wahoo! I'll catch the next flight!
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I am in,... We support you from across the globe,...
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I almost forgot!! Silas is a vampire? WTF?? I thought he was just IMMORTAL!! But nooo, Shane HAS to go and say, (say this in a very slow, droning voice) 'well, dear student/pupil/witch-I'm-using/manipulating tool, he can't be a witch AND a vampire' (normal voice) and then they completely drop it. WHAT???? Does this mean Silas is a vampire? Couldn't he then just have ended his life with a sharp stick? Why would he then need the cure? So confused, you guys. If anyone gets this, PLEASE explain it to me. My brain is NOT working right now.
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I think since (so far) the TVD writers are plagiarizing their own story about the Originals, we can't very well have the original original killed off by a stick. The way I understand it, if a vampire is created by ritual, witches and magic then only something imbued with specific magical powers (white oak, cure) can undo that magical act. However, if a vampire is created non-magically by another vampire, then a stick or the sun could kill them in order to restore "the balance" between the living and the dead....I could be wrong.

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Good points . . . OMG I JUST HAD A THOUGHT!!! (4 like the first time ever!!) What if this 'cure' IS the thing that made Silas a vampire by magic??????? Then somebody (hopefully someone lame that I don't care about . . . STEFAN!!) 'takes' the 'cure' and is like, 'WTF?? THIS IS JUNK! *Throws in a well*' And then Silas is like, 'OH NAW, BRO! NAW!!' ('Cause hopefully Silas has an accent. (PLS TVD casting people that are amazing and all deserve ice cream right now??)) K thx.
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Excellent,... your brain now I like,... why immortality= vampirism? I do not get it either,...
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Queue Justin Timberlake "Like I Love You"....." I just love your...braaain."
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=D Justin Timerlake 4eva!!
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Only 'now?' I will try harder.
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YAY!!!!!
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You know I've been in love with your brain 4eva girl,... ;)))))
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Am I the only one who thought that really wasn't a great performance? She wasn't awful but I spent the whole episode completely uninvested because all I could think was "god this episode would be so much better if Nina Dobrev was a talented dramatic actress." I felt if anything, she really dragged it down and it mostly just looked forced. The real standout performance in this episode was Zach Roerig. He was given like three scenes and still KILLED it and coming from me, labeling anything with Matt in it a highlight is high praise, especially in an episode that involves Rebekah. Candice Accola was also really good but I don't think any of the core three really brought it.
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I keep asking myself if I dislike Elena because I don't like the charakter, or because I don't think Nina Dobrev's a good actress.
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I wasn't sold on any of Elena's outpourings except for when she was sat at the head of the table while Bonnie, Caroline, and Matt argued, and everything became white noise until the phone rang. And also when she dropped down to her knees, and from then on until Damon told her to switch her humanity off. The closeup of her face and the soundtrack in the background courtesy of Michael Suby gave me chills all over. You could tell the Elena we always knew, was finally gone.
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Oh and of course - Zach Roerig! He was fantastic, as always. He stole the episode.
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Not to disagree with you once again but I will be thoroughly disappointed if Bonnie DOESN'T go full-on Dark Willow by season's end. That's what her entire arc throughout the series has been leading up to. Backing away because Buffy did it first would be a major cop out.
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Backing away because Buffy did it first would be a major cop out, I agree, especially when Julie Plec has ripped off so much of BtVS already. The Hunter storyline being the main example this season. Another one that constantly gnaws at me is Klaus. It's as if Plec showed Joseph Morgan an episode of BtVS with Spike in it and told her to play him at about 40%. So lazy.
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you know I don't think it's fair to say TVD "borrowed" the Hunter storyline. Since the advent of vampire stories there was always a Van Helsing...I fully expected vampire Hunters since Episode 1 season 1

(This is not to say TVD hasn't "been inspired" by many other BtVS story lines)
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But Klaus's eyes . . . He's so pretty!!
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Klaus is 100% badassery/pretty eyes/accents/hotness. So he's awesome basically. :)
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and how is Klaus 40% of spike? buffy was great and all but let's move on,... Klaus is 100% ,... every inch of him,... ;))))
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Elena, maybe and I say maybe, you've jinxed your family.

Great performance Nina. I'm looking forward to see your evolution next episode. It sucks we have to wait almost three weeks.

Greetings from Italy
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Nooooooo! I didn't know we aren't getting a new episode for so long! Hate you, tv schedule! Why?!!!
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Totes jinxed her family and her friends to be MISERABLE FOREVER!!! And she doesn't even know it!! I hope Nina will get to play Katherine next episode!! (PS did it freak anyone else out that after she 'flipped the switch' she looked SO MUCH like Katherine? Gave me chills.)

Greetings from Mars! (J/K I live in San Francisco!!)
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LOL Maybe Mars will better than Italy after today's election day.
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PS On your profile pic did that used to (before it got blood all over it) say 'Keep Calm and Carry On' or 'Keep Calm and Drink Tea' like I saw on a good friend of mine's tea mug? Very important to me K?
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LOL You can always pretend though!! (Personally I like 'Let Them Eat Cake!' because it's hilarious. In context or otherwise. When I was a kid we said that at birthday parties!) =D

PS Don't be so hard on urself girl. U can do anything!! (Did you see that SNL? The self-affirmation one?? I love that one.)
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I think is just Keep Calm, to underline that I can't. :)
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LOLZ. Yeah though, it's really sunny and warm here. I went hiking the other day and saw a volcano w/ lava and the lava was sweating 'cause the day was so hot here. =D.
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Ok, after today, I definitely emigrate. T_T
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Cheap real estate here on Mars!! Sorry 'bout ur election tho. =(
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I really hope that no-emotion-elena doesn't turn out like Katherine. They need to be different. AND ALSO I WANT A SCENE WHERE KATHERINE MEETS NO-EMOTION-ELENA! :D
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- Bad cop/worse cop LMAO
- the three of them leaving a burning Gilbert house, with a burning Jeremy inside, with a burning DIARY inside is a sign that this show will never be the same again
- the fact that Stefan was the only one who stopped to look at the burning household speaks VOLUMES about his character, how he's the only one who's deeply overprotective of his own humanity and why he will always separate the Good Stefan from the Ripper Stefan inside him instead of dealing with his internal dichotomy
- Nina Dobrev continues to kill it
- terrific episode. everything, seriously, TERRIFIC!
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THANK YOU!! Somebody else took pleasure in the diary burning. :)
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Also does anyone think Joss Wheadon watches this show? and if so, does he sit and shake his head and says to himself of how the show is starting to remind him of his show BTVS?
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This isn't about you comment at all (sorry) but that is an awesome name thing. I now need to change mine to 'KalijahGirl4Life' Hmm. :) :)
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I have a few questions...how did Stefan and Elena get Jeremy on the plane? And did they just compel the people flying the plane?
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'Is it cool if I check this human-shaped body bag into ur plane? Yes? Brilliant. Hey!! Watch his head! That's my dead *crosses out angrily* sleeping bro in there!!' - Elena

LOLOLOL!!
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LOL I spent this whole episode thinking "do they have a portal to the coast of Nova Scotia or something?" They really made it seem like flying from Nova Scotia to Georgia was the equivalent of a moderate walk.
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F'ck logic! :D
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Just use Damon Logic instead!!!!!! So much more helpful!!
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Oh yes! Go Damon Logic! :D
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Yes, bourbon_for_all (BTW GREAT USERNAME!!!!!!!), it's like logic heaven. :) Except Damon Logic will NEVER DIE!!!!!

#DamonLogic4eva
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Didn't you know that Nova Scotia is a mystical land where logic and logistics go to die?
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For me Nina Dobrev's acting was mostly over the top and the emotionally most touching scene was when Matt came into the bedroom.

Liked that she flipped the switch, hopefully the Salvatores now will be able to talk to each other again without the whole 'you stole my girlfriend'-debate.

I think they will tear the veil so that there can be more Originals on The Originals, but there is this small problem that not every charakter who should come back can come back, due to other engagements of the actors.

If I were Elena I would have chosen the chance of saving Jeremy over the rest of the world.
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Completely agree. Matt's faced killed me and that was probably the only moment I was really invested.
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Yeah, that face was gut-wrenching and I immediately thought 'Now, THERE'S somebody who can act!'
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i agree.. Nina is great but Zach omg
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