The Vampire Diaries "The Originals" Review: Three Mikaelsons and a Baby

The Vampire Diaries S04E20: "The Originals"

Backdoor pilots can be pretty tepid, but if there's ever been a character who needs to get the hell out of his current show, it's The Vampire Diaries' Klaus. No shots at those of you invested in the inklings of romance he has with Caroline, but it's time. Klaus either needs to die or move on, so a spin-off—and the backdoor pilot to get us there—actually sounded like a really good idea to me. Throw in the promise of Elijah and New Orleans as a setting, and I was pre-sold to be in on The Originals

And I still am. But, uh, this episode was certainly not without its issues, and now I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the prospects of The Originals (he says, knowing he's going to watch every single second nonetheless). It was hamstrung by typical backdoor pilot (and really, normal pilot) stuff like awkward exposition (Klaus just flat-out broadcasting to people that HEY Y'ALL I'M THE HYBRID, AND BY HYBRID I MEAN VAMPIRE AND WEREWOLF IN THE SAME BODY) and on-the-nose dialogue (Camille's armchair analysis of Klaus's severely damaged psyche), but also introduced one of the weirder, likely controversial, stories into the larger Vampire Diaries universe in Hayley's pregnancy and Klaus's possible future as a father. 

We better start with the hybrid baby because, WHAT? There's been some discussion about why Hayley would play a role in the spin-off (well, other than The CW isn't going to let  Phoebe Tonkin slink away so easily), but now we know: She's miraculously carrying Klaus's child after their almost-forgotten one-night stand some episodes ago. The episode chalked up the pregnancy to a loophole in the system, which is clearly the quickest and pilot-iest way to answer "how?" without actually answering it. The mystery behind the pregnancy will likely drive The Originals, as will Klaus's surely slow-moving journey of coming to terms with the baby's existence. 

On one hand, what a cool twist. If you had "hybrid baby" in the TV.com community pool, pat yourself on the back and Andy will have some lovely parting gifts for you when he returns next week. The baby will, in theory, force Klaus to consider how much he truly cares about family, or really any living/dead thing other than himself. Klaus has gone on and on about family throughout his time on TVD, but it's mostly been a smoke-screen, or reflective of his centuries' worth of pain and trauma. Now, unless he decides to dagger an infant—which, wow—he will be forced to value family. For a character who's been stuck in a rut in Mystic Falls, sometimes evil and sometimes ineffectual, the baby—and Elijah's insistence that the Original family return to New Orleans, their previous home, and make it their own again—gives Klaus both an immediate purpose and a larger trajectory that could be very, very compelling. 

On the other hand, the baby device is about as soapy as you can get, and though it suggests possible intrigue for the future, there's also a very likely scenario where the results don't match the positive expectations and he/she/it becomes an annoying crutch just like the cure, or the moonstone, or the daggers, or those 61 other things the show has used over the last four years. Plus, there's also this little thing: Klaus is sort of a monster. It was a little jarring to watch this episode and see the narrative and the world through his perspective and mostly be asked to identify with him. Clearly, the driving force of the spin-off will be watching this monster evolve into something more, presumably with the help of his family. And there are certainly less sympathetic or interesting lead characters on television right now. But it was all a bit odd to get comfortable with, at least for me.

The fascinating thing here is that the baby was the episode's hook, but also possibly its most problematic element. If you remove the baby from the equation, there was a lot to like about the hour. This version of New Orleans has energy, and Chris Grismer's direction did a fine job of establishing a slightly different visual palette for the new setting. It's darker, it's grimier and it's even more chaotic than Mystic Falls. The CW and Warner Bros' casting department succeeded yet again in finding performers that both look good and can handle the dialogue and energy without making it seem too ridiculous. Charles Michael Davis' Marcel was intriguing and he worked well with Joseph Morgan. Witches always get the short end of it in this universe, but Danielle Pineda was solid, as was Leah Pipes. 

Most importantly, Morgan and Daniel Gillies did very good work here. Morgan was asked to do a lot more with what has become a weird character, but he managed to pull off Klaus' wide range of emotions. The Vampire Diaries likes to give Morgan extended monologues full of empty threats, so it was nice to watch him perform without having to say as much. Despite the heavy layer of cheese in the writing of the scene with Camille and Klaus near the end of the episode, Morgan was darn good. And Danielle Gillies sold Elijah's desperation and longing for familial bonds very well too. When this goes to series, their relationship is going to be at the core, just like on TVD, and with all the history between them, the spin-off should have no trouble developing strong material--especially if it allows these two actors to stop yelling and stabbing and have emotionally complex conversations.

If it seems like I'm being wishy-washy about the episode, it's because I am. With all pilots, backdoor or not, we have to consider potential for both good and bad directions that the story and characters could go. Although there's some really fascinating, surprisingly adult stuff happening in this episode, particularly with Klaus and notions of family, the hybrid baby scares me. It could be a wonderful element that well-serves Klaus, Hayley, Elijah and maybe even Rebekah. It could also open up interesting questions about the rules and logics of this universe in a way that doesn't necessarily involve a geocaching search in Nova Scotia. But bringing a baby into this kind of world, where the plot moves a mile a second and characters don't hesitate to stab even their closest friends and family in the heart, is going to take some real care, both from Klaus and from the writing staff. The baby is definitely going to be a plot device, but it has to be used well, and too often, even normal, non-supernatural shows struggle with babies, so I can't begin to imagine what kind of screwed up child neglect and abuse could happen here.

Still, those hopes, questions and concerns can wait until September or October. As an individual episode, "The Originals" managed to introduce a new world and a handful of new characters, while recontextualizing our relationship with a villain-turned-lead. That's not easy to pull off, and at times I was rolling my eyes, but this episode mostly does it. I think. 


NOTES

– Assuming it gets a series order, I don't know if The Originals will actually shoot in New Orleans, but I hope it does. I also sort of hope that it'll just stay away from Hurricane Katrina, at least for a while. Dealing with a baby is enough; we don't need any additional on-the-nose stories. 

– Back in Mystic Falls, Stefan and Damon decided that they need to ratchet up the torture. This story turned really ugly, and really weird, really quickly. I know that Elena's pretty damaged, but I get tired of the show relying on Damon and Stefan talking about how to help/fix/save/break/unsire her. Let her live, and be active.

– Also: Katherine's around! I hope she'll stir some sh*t up in the coming episodes. Not enough of that on this show.

– Many of you are going to want to talk about Klaus's phone call to Caroline. I enjoyed it. Go nuts.

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*Facepalm* Julie Plec's really done it this time. After much heated debate, she has driven away me, as well as my entire TVD-obsessed group of 16 girls, from ever watching The Vampire Diaries or a single episode of the Originals. :( Thanks, Julie. You sure do have the greatest ideas!
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i just dont understand if they r going to b completely diffrent shows r two in one? because i wud b missing alot because i am not sure i wud b able to watch the originals so please do not make it anoter show just dedicate episodes to the originals in the vampire diarie
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hey anon. is "the vampire dairies tv show and the original tv show" are same ,i mean its two different name of one series .... right ????

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i just dont understand if they r going to b completely diffrent shows r two in one? because i wud b missing alot because i am not sure i wud b able to watch the originals so please do not make it anoter show just dedicate episodes to the originals in the vampire diarie
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hey anon. is "the vampire dairies tv show and the original tv show" are same ,i mean its two different name of one series .... right ????
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i just dont understand if they r going to b completely diffrent shows r two in one? because i wud b missing alot because i am not sure i wud b able to watch the originals so please do not make it anoter show just dedicate episodes to the originals in the vampire diarie
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hey anon. is "the vampire dairies tv show and the original tv show" are same ,i mean its two different name of one series .... right ????
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i just dont understand if they r going to b completely diffrent shows r two in one? because i wud b missing alot because i am not sure i wud b able to watch the originals so please do not make it anoter show just dedicate episodes to the originals in the vampire diarie
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I love the show! I just don't understand why they kill everyone so easy! My anger started when they kill Alaric! I was pretty mad when they start by killing aunt Jenny, but I understood that we need some sad moments... but Alaric and Jeremmy was very low! If you pay attention the only one that still have a mom alive is Caroline! Everyone else is a orphan just finishing high school, imagine when they hit college! I know that is a vampire show and has to be bloody but slow down.. I love the originals, Klaus is sooooo goood! just stop cutting off the cast that made the show so successful!
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Sorry mates..I love Klaus and Klaroline and old gang but this..was..awasome. Music, atmosphere, people, life, characters.. love it! I was worried about this spin off..but now? I need more!
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I really enjoyed this episode and am really excited to see more. I loved Camille and Marcel( we did not learn much about Sophie) and I actually don't mind Hayley, even though I think Phoebe Tonkin is a terrible actress. I don't get all the negativity. People also need to wacth the show : Klaus could not kill Marcel because a.) the witches send there was a consequence for killing them. b.) He wanted to win over the town, and everyone in the town LOVES Marcel, therefore he would anger them if he killed them. I did not mind the baby thing either, since I doubt they plan on turning this show into three-vampires- and- a baby. LOVED Elijah in this episode. I think it would be an interesting way to start Klaus' redemption arc, which is what this show is about. People also need to remember this is the PILOT, pilots usually suck( even tho I thought this one was great) and that the show usually gets better over time. Kinda like TVD did.
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HOLY MOTHER GOD

I had a break through.



Im sure everyone is geting pretty annoyed with Stefen+Damon to the rescue for Elena to switch her humanity back on, but good news, im pretty sure NEITHER of them will be able to do it (and threw torture? Seriously dudes? Caus thats really gonna work.) I thinkn that, if anybody will be able to get her to switch it back on, it has to be her bestfriend. Which narrows it down to; Bonnie, Caroline and Matt (Two 't''s?)

Now, since we've already tried with Caroline (Hellooo Caroline sort of wants her DEAD) and the whole Elena-trying-to-kill-Bonnie-twice-within-5-minutes-thing is big NO. Soooo... That only leaves little ol humain boy Matty.

It makes sense, Matt is her only human friend left. Who better to get her to turn her humanity back on that an actual human?

Yes, I do realize that this is all very Buffy (Xander saves the world by telling Willow he loves her and all that.) but honestly guys. Its the only shot they've got.

So. Theres my theory. You got any? XD
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OH HELLS YA I WAS RIGHT IN ALL UR FACES SUCK ITTTTTTTTTT
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Hmmm. I've been seing allot of negative comments (especially about Klaus-baby dady) but can I just say this? All these questions your asking, that you think has no and will not have a awnser, while probably be awnsered? You DO realize that this was the PILOT right? There will be more episodes.

Oh and one more thing, If at some point it turns out the baby isent really Klaus's and the witches are working with Hayley or something like that (Who I hate, FYI) I would be very disapointed (and sad. Because if they do do that, then we would have a whole scene of Klaus having a nervoous breakdown- oh cmon, you know the writers woould do that- and crying and shiz like that -OMG-). Even though I am getting a SERIOUSE twillight (Renesme) vibe comming from this.

GETTING BABY= BAD

LOSING BABY= BAD
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Even with the baby, I'm hoping for this spin-off so I can stop watching Vampire Diaries. MY favorite people are Klaus, Elijah, Rebekah, and Hayley is CW Pretty so there's that. Less high school drama, more vampire'in? Absolutely.
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Huh, a baby. I'm sort of intrigued (lots of new directions for Klaus to grow!), but if that OTHER vampire drama spin-off that introduced a baby (Angel, duh) is any indicator... just saying, THIS baby better not get sucked into a hell dimension and come back a pissed-off teenager.

The other problem that required a huge suspension of disbelief: Klaus is as immortal as immortal gets and basically two killing machines in one. I don't for a second believe Marcel and his walking vampire sacrifices could outmatch him. So why didn't Klaus just kill them all? I guess because an all-powerful protagonist is boring and they need something for him to go up against? I still don't buy it- Klaus has slaughtered hybrids by the dozens before. Of course, hybrids suck, so.
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Loved this episode so much. Love Elijah the most. Here's hoping they shoot in nola, so i can get my stalk on ;) . I buy the baby idea, it has to be in a world where Klaus has never slept with a werewolf, it could be possible, I buy the explanation.
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Can anyone name a single TV show that actually got better after a baby was introduced in the plot?
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Hmm. Let's think . . . no. Maybe we can add one to the list?

Shows that improved after introducing a baby in the pilot:
THE ORIGINALS.

Looks pretty satisfying. Let's see if Julie can pull it off. =D
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I loved this series....but it's getting a bit silly now with all the tangents (and a baby? Really? I think someone has been reading too much Buffy fanfics!!) and I'm not sure how long it will keep my interest now....the books went the same way unfortunately.
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I agree with your assessment of the pilot. I thought it was overall interesting and definitely has potential, but the baby hybrid was just stupid. I don't get why they would even want to go down that road, other than they had to try to tie in Phoebe Tonkin somehow and make her presence matter. Frankly it sort of put a big fat cloud over the series. Hopefully the writers will give the more intelligent fans some credit and not completely ruin all the reasons we even tune in. Plus I'm a Klaus and Caroline fan, so sue me, but they have the best chemistry I've seen on TVD in a long WHILE. I don't know why they would shoot that gold mine in the foot already? The main love triangle has gotten so old and boring, it's almost unbearable to watch these talented actors talk in circles every single freaking episode. Hopefully the originals will be a smart move for the series and not be it's demise. Time will tell.
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I'm calling out for help here because TV.com doesn't appear to have a "contact us" link.
They are telling me that I've been "temporarily suspended" for "trolling" (LOLZ). This is probably the 7th comment that I've ever left on this entire website. AND I'M A TROLL?!
Does anyone know what this means? Have I been hacked? Should I change my password? WHAT GIVES, TV.COM?
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AND NO ONE ANSWERS. :'(
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what happened exactly?
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I have no idea. They sent an email to this account telling me the above. Essentially, that I'm a TROLL. More like TROLOLZ. I rarely comment on anything here. I'm thinking maybe someone hijacked my stuff and went to some thread I never go to and went hawg wild. Anyway, it appears that I can still comment. I just can't comment on forums... which I have never done anyway. I changed my password. And it's a week of "suspension". (Here I am, totally suspended.) So whatever.
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Having thought about it some more, I do think the idea of an Original spinoff is a promising one - after all, TVD can't keep giving so much screen time to its Big Bad villains and thus taking away from the actual protagonists. But they want to hang on to their hot actors and the rather extensive mythology that's been created for those characters. So they propose a spinoff. I get it. There's still definitely a problem though, and that lays mostly with Klaus and the terrible conflict they've set up for him to start the new show off with. They've taken a millennium-old uber-powerful hybrid serial killer and made him the hero just for the fact that he's been feeling lonely. They've given him as a foil a 100-year-old vampire made by him that he's incredibly jealous of for having so many friends/minions. Then they've decided that the fastest way to inject some humanity into Klaus (because he needs to be a sympathetic protagonist fast, yo!) is to make him a baby daddy.

In short, yeah - nice idea to have a spin-off. Both the Original Family and the original protagonists of TVD needed more room to breathe. Execution? Not looking all that promising. Very weak foundation.
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I'm just glad they finally shifted the focus from Evilena, Stefan and Damon. It was getting soooo old. And honestly I wish witches, vampires, and werewolves were more equal in the division of power. I hate how weak normal witches are. And then you get badasses like Bonnie... More witches need to get some expression up in the hizzouse!
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I get that many people are sick of the love triangle, and of Elena constantly needing to be saved, which both bother me intensely as well - but they are the main characters. I don't want LESS of them, I just want their storylines to be written better. Elena *needs* to be much more active and independent. All characters cannot be constantly trying to hold her hostage, arrange her life for her, stop her from doing something, and so on. But again, that doesn't mean "less Elena" and "Elena sucks" in my book. It means, "Writers, get your shit together and fully realize your story's heroine". I think they struggle with writing her, honestly, because it seems they've tried every extreme with her characterization and still get blowback from fans who don't like her. They say she's too much of a damsel so the writers give her physical training. They say she's boring so they have her finally go for the bad boy. They say she's too much of a self-righteous goodie two-shoes so they literally have her agree, become the opposite, and mock her old self. Still no win. But that doesn't mean they're right and the fans are just too hard to please. It just means, IMO, that they don't get - and maybe many fans don't either - what the real problem is with Elena's character. As I said, she has no independence. She is not active. Plot happens around her and because of her and she's very rarely able to truly influence it in her own right. For 4 years she's been like a child being carried around. Even "evil" and supposedly "carefree" she's allowed no freedom. Constantly monitored, still the center of "saving" plots, manipulated, kidnapped...
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That was very well written ad spot-on. I too have felt that the problem with Elena has been in the writing, and not in the character itself.
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That episode was pretty terrible. Pilot's are usually awkward so I tried to overlook some things, but even Nina's acting took a nose dive this episode. Her Katherine was off.

- I love Klaus, but this episode did not do him justice. I feel like I was watching a different character. I find it hard to believe that Elijah was willing to kill those two lackey's and Klaus wasn't. Whether or not he likes Marcel is irrelevant because if Marcel really knows Klaus as well as they say then he wouldn't be surprised by their deaths.

- I agree with Klaus about Marcel being too dramatic. I wanted to like him, but he was so obviously up to something that I just felt annoyed. He wasn't even hiding it and did Klaus really let him get away with that blatant vervain coverup? Give me a break. I feel like they're weakening Klaus to allow for a more equal playing field for everyone else. Maybe TVD and The Originals should switch villians because right now the stakes are unbalanced for both groups.

- Elijah was the best in this episode, but I'm disappointed in him as well. How can he possibly believe that werewolf spawn explanation so easily? Aside from the fact that this is a HORRIBLE plot device, how did he convince paranoid, Niklaus Mikaelson to believe that nonsense? They don't even know these witches! Honestly, how long has it been in TV time since those two had sex? A week? Two? And there's a heartbeat already? Are we just to assume that Hayley was a virgin before banging Klaus? Because LOL! Hayley is a mysterious, human(werewolf) who jumped in bed with a man she DESPISES. Who knows how many LIVE, reproductively capable men she's been with...the baby could belong to Professor Shane for all we know! How can they just go along with this? I think they're being played and the fact that the all powerful Originals don't ask questions is a huge issue. What happened to all those witches they use to have under their thumbs before Mystic Falls? This seems like a perfect time to call upon them and do some detective work.

I really wanted to like the spin-off because I love the Original family, but what's the point in leaving Mystic Falls if their lives are going to be just as insulting elsewhere? They are the fathers of the vampire race, give them something good to work with or don't bother...I bet you Kol is on the other side laughing his ass off at his family's gullibility. Sigh
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Ha, yes, somewhere, Kol is having the last laugh.
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Kol's laughing all right, but not the way you think.

My prediction is that Kol is on the Other Side like, *Accent* 'Man. You guys are idiots. It's MY DAMN BABY! You guys had better teach it how to properly shop at BCF. Elijah, I'm counting on you, bro. I know we weren't friends, but . . . could you really stand the thought of your own nephew NOT knowing how to dress elegantly and fabulously in a coat? No, no you could not.'
Poor Kol. I bet he's really pissed right now. :(

Also, KOL IS A BABY-DADDY!!

But what would the baby's last name be? It wouldn't be Mikaelson (because it's father isn't Mikael) so would it be Klausson or something? Niklausson? That's a pretty ridiculous last name if you ask me.

Also baby-names. We need to start brainstorming. If it's a boy, I vote that it will be named Burlington. Klaus owes BCF THAT much at least. Otherwise Elijah will probably pitch in, right? Please say that he will. I can't stand the thought that Elijah would be so disrespectful to Burlington Coat Factory that he wouldn't convince his brother to name his child after it. =D
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And LOL, I vote for Niklausson!
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It might be the best option. Hayleyson doesn't sound too great either. Elijahson? Kolson? I feel bad for the baby Burlington. Poor kid. Imagine how mean other kids will be to him! Awful! :(
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Well, to be fair, I never bothered to finish the episode. I stopped about 30 seconds after Klaus could hear the baby's heart beating in Hayley's Uterus of Doom. So maybe the second half was way better than the first half and I just don't know about it. But I found the witch stuff boring and Hayley makes me want to claw my eyeballs out, so I had to stop watching for my sanity's sake. Did the second half improve? Did Bonnie follow a purple bunny into a volcano? Did Klaus take his shirt off at least???
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No shirtless Klaus, and no purple bunny volcanoes (but also no Bonnie, so that was a plus maybe?). But it was good! There was lots of Elijah being a badass, and also Klaus bit a guy (not in THAT way, nasty). Also Klaus met some weirdo psychology student and she described his personality like a total stalker. It was fun! I say you should see the rest, mostly because Elijah basically says that he would give his brother's child to Rebekah (without Klaus's permission, mind you) if she'd just stop by NOLA every once in a while. I laughed so hard. Maybe it's me and my strange / freakish ability to find the humor in ANY situation (fictional ones anyway) but I thought this episode was freakin' hilarious. And there is a huge reference to crumpets in my recap which will probably never get done. :( Maybe by the time The Originals actually starts? I hate having company on the weekends. Gah. :) Anyway, I recommend watching the second half, and making your own opinions.
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Oh, Inigo, so glad you joined in the comments this week :)
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Hiya girl. Question: Why do you hate this episode so much?
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Or Kolson. Which is pretty darn ridiculous as well. Elijahson? Shaneson? THESE NAMES ALL SUCK. What's Hayley's last name? Gah!
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Well what else? It's not like Klaus (or Kol) has a reasonable last name to pass on to his child. And why poor Rebekah? Rebekah Mikaelson actually is a very good name.
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Does it half to end with 'son'? (OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT THE ORINALS LAST NAME IS MIKEAL-SON, AS IN; MIKEAL'S SON.)


...Poor Rebeka :P
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Much of Klaus and Elijah, little of Elena. That right there is reason enough to like this episode. Add in Rebekah, New Orleans and a baby for Klaus and I found this episode amazing.
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Could this baby be Tyler's? I really heat for Klaus to be trapped like this
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Um... Klaus is trapped? Haley is the one who was literally kidnapped, held hostage, and threatened with death because of being pregnant with Klaus' fetus. She has zero choice or control right now. Everything is in all-powerful Klaus' hands. How did you get that one so perfectly backwards?
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So my two immediate reactions were well a baby gives an end date if this falls on it face. The second was...wouldn't have been better for our TVD heroes had managed to kill Klaus after he had killed Jenna and then somehow created a role for Joseph Morgan on The Secret Circle or something (how cool if he was Cassie's father..would explain the blonde). I mean they would have created some other reason to introduce Rebekkah but maybe no Esther and at least Ric would still be alive. I am not sure that really was my full reaction.
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As mentioned by some, the baby thing did not do it for me. Actually, I was really enjoying watching the episode, and was especially pleased with Morgan and Gillies. That was until the baby popped out of nowhere and I literally screamed "Noooooooooooooooo"!
Not only is the idea of a baby in a vampire show a bit, or very, risky, but most importantly for me, the issue of fatherhood is way too premature for a character like Klaus. He is a monster, a villain, a twisted and tortured mind and I enjoy watching him deals with the remains of his humanity. He still needs to evolve in that direction before being thrown a baby and a hot chick he can call family.
Also, I was not convinced by Haylee and Camille. I find PT dull and vulgar (and I'm not a klaroline fan), way below JM's acting skills and emotional range, which worries me when I think of future scenes with these two. And, as mentioned by someone else, Camille def has an Elena vibe, but in the most boring sense possible.
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Ta-Tonkin really bores me too. I watched The Secret Circle and thought she was way too predictable. I have grave doubts that she can really carry this plot line. No pun intended.
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Agreed
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Just wanted to add that with Klaus and Elijah dominating this episode, the future series is in dire need of a strong female lead. Maybe Rebekah will fill that role, although Caroline would kick ass in The Originals! The witches don't seem very strong, and as I said, I am hugely disappointed in the presence of Haylee, whose only purpose seems to be an eye candy and magical breeder. I hope Camille will prove to be more interesting than what she seems.....
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I totally agree. Klaus hasn't even admitted to anyone aside from Caroline, his tentative desire for redemption. How can he possibly go down this path if he's already got this massive roadblock ahead of him? Elijah and these witches are pressuring him and we all know Klaus doesn't do well in situations like that. There were so many ways they could have developed a character arc for Klaus. I admit I am a Klaroline fan, but I am perfectly capable of admitting that they shouldn't happen this early on in the story. The wounds between them are too fresh, but the writers should have used those issues between them to help springboard Klaus into this new character arc. Not some bs magical hybrid baby plot device that they pulled from nowhere.
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Agree with you on everything. And love your screen name. :)
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Thanks :)
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I know this episode was centered on the Originals new series, but I feel the need to focus on TVD part of the episode with Elena. Enough already. Seriously. Even as a strong immortal being Elena is weak and whiny. So annoying. When Bonnie was torching Elena's brain last week I was so happy. Elena tried to kill Bonnie twice in 5 minutes and then was able to show enough human emotion because she was afraid of dying? Give me a break. Elenas only lasted this long cause of the Salvatore brothers. Which is getting so old. When Vicki was trying to kill Jeremy they just stabbed her in the heart and dumped her body in the woods, even though Vicki was way more innocent and salvageable than "switched off" Elena. Those boys honestly need to grow some gonads and stop obsessing over this pathetic potato of a character. If she really has no humanity and no connection to the human world anymore, why is she still staying in Mystic Falls? Whats keeping her there if everyone just wants to change her back to a human, which she supposedly doesn't want? Why doesn't she just ditch all her friends and leave town alone? ANYONE?! I'd really like to know lol. The torture scene at the end of this episode honestly freaked me out. I hope they just end up killing her and put us all out of this Elena-Damon-Stefan misery. Katherine is the best, because shes the strong interesting version of Elena. Honestly tho, Nina Dobrev is so good at playing these two characters, I hate one and love the other, which is just fantastic acting. TVD is getting repetitive...they need something fresh and new now that Klaus is gone (OMFG Klaus the baby daddy...?!), and they need to stop focusing on this lame lets-all-forget-our-own-lives-and-save-humanity-less-Elena plotline. Please TVD writers. Pleeeeease.
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Ahh, hats off to you for the review man.
-I'm excited that this had gotten picked up because not having breathtaking talents like Daniel Gillies and Joseph Morgan on my screen on a weekly basis would be a travesty, a disappointment, a crime in the television world. Those two are incredible. Incredible. It's been a great year for both of them. Their talents should be praised more in a world outside of the TVD fandom because they give Emmy worthy performances. They really do. Their talent should be recognized on a broader scale, and even though I don't think The Originals will do that for them just yet, I still love that they are getting more attention and acknowledged more than they ever have in previous years.They deserve it. I am disappointed that based on what I've heard, The Originals won't be filmed in New Orleans. They only shot the pilot there, but I've read somewhere that they'll be shooting on a lot near TVD in Atlanta. That will suck. Suck hard. Because you don't have a show take place in a city as rich and infused with culture and grit and heart, like New Orleans and not shoot there. So I hope, I truly hope that they make it work somehow next season, because you have to do New Orleans justice. you just have to. Also, I disagree about Katrina, it's part of the city's recent history. You can't just close your eyes and pretend as though it didn't happen, that'll be even worse than TVD talking about "the war" in flashbacks w/o mentioning what war it is and why there was a war to begin with. As annoying as it is on TVD for me, it can be dismissed, but not for NOLA. It's about Klaus taking over a city that he hasn't been to in a century, from his mentee who has established a system and order. A city that's thriving, and New Orleans has just recently gotten back on it's feet within the last couple of years, recovering from Katrina. At the very least it should, and i expect it would be mentioned at least once in passing.
-Only the dynamic and awesome Mikaelson brothers would keep me from missing the Salvatores. I honestly felt like we didn't even necessarily need the little taste of MF and them, that they gave us, but I understood that they had to do that, as most backdoor pilots do. They did escalate to sadistic torture real quick, and part of me is interested to see the Salvatore bros working together to torture the girl that they love (it only seems fair after four seasons of her playing those two like fiddles) and the other part of me just wants them to leave her be because Evilena is awesome. Let her be evil for pete's sake. Control issues much?
-Katherine, one of the best plot devices ever. I wonder if she'll stay around too. Like now that she thinks Klaus' attention is elsewhere. We're seeing a new side to her character. We're seeing Katerina...Elijah's Katerina, more so than Katherine. It's interesting. Nina Dobrev, hats off to playing three different characters in one season. She does it well.
-Klaus' phonecall to Caroline was cheesy. But, I did kinda, sorta like it. I'll admit it. It fit, because it made me think of the first beautiful Klaroline scene, when she was on her deathbed and he spoke of her seeing the world. Basically JoMo can sell me on anything. Like the great scene with Camille which also could be considered overkill with exposition and psychoanalyzing and what not, but his presence throughout that scene, silent presence was compelling enough where it was easy to overlook eye roll inducing moves like that.

-I know a lot of people had mixed feelings about this episode, and I understand them to some degree but as far as backdoor pilots go, I really enjoyed it. I like the overall feel of this show. It has so much potential. It has a darker tone, slower pace, it's overall heartier and meatier. It has a heartier, recognizable and not as contrived overall theme with family,and it's more adult and mature. It has a deeper feel to it. An easy feel. The Big Easy. LOL . I genuinely love that. I feel like it can be a tamer version of True Blood and a more mature and deeper version of TVD. I feel like it can hold it's own with the ridiculous talent of Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies alone.And Charles M. Davis. Him too.
-Umm Elijah. I freaking love Elijah. Elijah is the ultimate vampire of all vampires. He's like the Godfather of Vamps. And God, that man is sexy, he can rock the hell out of a suit. So much class and swagger. Mmm. He was so deliciously awesome in this episode. That freaking entrance, the music, the slow confident way that he appeared and ripped a mofo's heart out!! Part of me was questioning how I could be so turned on by something grotesque and the other part of me was shouting yes like...I was in an Herbal Essence commercial. ;) I loved all the snark, his whole "depending on my mood I may go help my bro out or help the witches" bit. The tender moment with his Katerina. Mmmm. But, basically, when I'm not lusting after Elijah Mikaelson I have such a deep and true appreciation for his character, because out of all the characters that I could identify and relate to on some levels, he's probably the one that I can identify and relate to the most. Except I'm not nearly as well spoken, badass, or sexy in a suit. I can never not understand his moral points and his values. When he uttered "Family is power" it spoke to me as someone who often proclaims that family is everything. I love Elijah and he was particularly great in this episode, minus one little tidbit. But back to that entrance. Can someone make a gif of that, because I will need that to make it through a Monday morning. For realsies.
-I do like that the witches are being set up where they may actually be a threat. Witches revolting and being believable. Whether or not that'll stick will be determined later I presume. I'm still annoyed that the race/witch issue has never been explained, but I'm willing to overlook that...again. I'll ignore the lack of explanation and just be thankful that this show will at least have more diversity than TVD. As it should, because...New Orleans. That alone shall make me a slightly mollified little ethnic woman. I feel like the witches of NOLA may actually harbor real power and make a real difference if they band together. Maybe it's because there feels like a sense of community among witches, whereas with TVD it's mostly Bonnie on her lonesome trying to figure stuff out. I feel like the witches of this series may be fierce and done right.
-Klaus. Oh how I loves Niklaus. I loved that him in New Orleans is like Norm in Cheers. Everybody freaking knows his name. I personally like lurking in the shadows unnoticed without my reputation preceding me and what not. I'm a wallflower like that. But I love that Klaus is always like "Do you know who I am?" like some wayward celeb trying to get out of a ticket. Ahem. I love that he pitches a hissy fit like that older kid that abandons a toy and then gets all pissy when some younger kid picks it up and starts playing with it. Klaus, sweetie, you haven't been to New Orleans in a century. Order had to be established in your absence. Let's not throw a temper-tantrum, even though you throw them so well. I love that he was less with the words and empty threats and more with the action. Basically, I just loved Klaus.
-Marcel. Hellllooo Marcel. Speaking of more sex on legs, I loved him INSTANTLY! It takes a special person to hold their own against JoMo/Klaus but he's doing it and doing it well. He had me intrigued and I will subscribe to his newsletter. He has all the charisma and psychopathy of Klaus times ten, because the charisma part at least, works in his favor. He's established a vampire tyranny and a family the way that Klaus has dreamed of and yet never quite managed. So much envy there. The tension between them crackled. Like, I don't even know if I know who to root for in this quest. I adore Klaus, I instantly loved Marcel, because he's like a younger, more effectively charming, soulful version of Klaus. A Klaus mini-me if you will. Poor Klaus, there comes a time in every father's life when the lessons he's taught his son come back to bite him in the arse, and this is it. This is so it. I love that through Marcel, Klaus can see who he is and was, and it'll set him on a path of self discovery, absolution, redemption, penance...whatever. There is a family dynamic between Marcel and Klaus, with whatever happened with Klaus being the mentor etc ( I am already looking forward to the flashbacks for those two...ridic wigs and all), but there is a blood thing with him maybe, possible, finally getting his shizz together and him Elijah and Rebekah being the family they were meant to be, before they got all screwed up. Which brings me to the worst part of the show.
-WTF with the Hayley shizz?!!!! No. Just NO! This was the weakest spot of the entire episode and premise for this show, and yet they put everything into making the show and it's premise revolve around her so there is no choice but to put up with it. I don't like it one bit. Here's the thing, I love that this show poses a theme that TVD should have but takes a backseat to something more juvenile. Family. To me, the familial element, the Salvatore bond was always and is always the most interesting aspect of the show, but it gets clobbered down to oblivion with the often tiresome love triangle. One of the things that , for me has always made the Original family so interesting was the importance of family. They are a screwed up bunch but it has always been about family. It's of the most importance to them. So the idea that in this show family is not only pivotal and integral but it's the be all and end all, heart of the show has me thrilled. Beyond thrilled. But they did not need Hayley and this werewolf/vampire/hybrid evil spawn crap! Why?! Why do that. Why put so a narrow view on family out there in the universe. Family didn't have to come down to a supernatural bastard child. I resent the implication that it has to just be limited to a bloodline. Personally, when I think of family I think of it in a broader perspective, and I feel like limiting that is a cop out..
-Can we just all acknowledge the fact that Hayley was the most insignificant and useless character imaginable? She was. So much so, that I mentally blocked out the fact that she and Klaus slept together because it caused my already insomniatic arse to not be able to sleep. She was and still is as far as I'm concerned, a poorly constructed character. When I first heard she'd be cast in the series I was gobsmacked, because...why? Now this. THIS. No offense to Phoebe Tonkin. She's great, a treasure, everyone adores her etc. I know this. I accept this. Whatever. But Hayley as a character sucks. She has no depth, no dimension, no real presence. They went out of their way to force her appearance on the show. Now I feel like they are going out of their way to force not just a chemistry, but relevance. They are forcing her to be relevant. The way I see it, if you have to try that hard, than maybe it isn't meant to be. Stop trying to ram a square peg into a circular hole. Just stop. I feel like everyone is more in love with the idea of having Phoebe Tonkin around than anything else. They're trying to make this work because it's HER playing the character. Even though it just isn't working.I mean, why not take May...June?...wait...APRIL and toss her into the spinoff too. Why not? And again, my being facetious. Apologies. It's nothing against her as an actress, it's just this character to me, was not meant to be. I was wondering how they would make her of significant in this series, but I had no idea it would be through this. I know and appreciate the fact that they are going for a more adult tone. I love it. Thanks for that. But adult doesn't equal baby. I can understand their way of thinking as far as you give the psychopathic narcissist the possibility of having an heir and like most people they get their shizz together when parenthood hits them like a bulldozer. But I don't know, it lacked a creativity, or maybe it was too creative. This was a solid, solid pilot. I enjoyed most aspects of it, in spite of few tweaks to be had there and there. Then they hit us with the baby bomb, and I found myself doing the unthinkable. Wishing for the instant demise of an unborn child and possibly the death of said child's mother just so they wouldn't ruin the show before it's really started. I felt like a horrible person, but it's true. I was on an Original high, vibing off the easy NOLA vibes, lusting after my fave originals and the new kid. Enjoying the grittiness. Grinning like kid at a candy store and then they dropped this baby bomb and it was like somebody stopped the Marvin Gaye record mid groove. (For those of you who may not know, records came before cassettes....er, those came before cd's...uhh, those were the things that came before we stared downloading music onto electronic devices so tiny that sometimes they unexpectedly end up in the washing machine...*sighs*). Anyhoo, my groove was gone, dammit, is my point. All because of one buxom brunette with a bun in the oven. I was as outraged as Klaus. In fact, I loved that tantrum. I was kinda pissed when he was all accepting by the end and talked about being King. Okay I wasn't too pissed because he sounded good saying it, but you catch my drift. I also loathed that they used my precious Elijah to attempt to convince us and Klaus that this was pregnancy thing was acceptable. Elijah has always been family oriented, placing value in such things as that, but they took that and ran with it in an attempt to make this all okay. And it wasn't okay. It just wasn't. Elijah could convince me of a many of things, but accepting this storyline just isn't one of them. Other than that sucker punch to the gut via Hayely, I actually thought this was quite good. I didn't have too high of expectations so most was met. the standout new character was clearly Marcel. Camille didn't have much presence just yet, they were forcing her into scenes just to give us that taste, which made that and many things about this episode not feel organic, but that's the nature of backdoor pilots. But I do like that my first impression is that she is not some damsel in distress helpless dolt,and maybe we'll have a lead female with backbone and who has been through some things. Elena has been through things but she's always come across as more broken than jaded...or something. I can't quite describe it. Anyhoo. Long live King Klaus! Or King Marcel! I'm good either way. And my apologies for rambling and/or venting like a madwoman. One day I'll just read one of these cool reviews and leave a sentence. One day.
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I am hoping that Marcel dies a painful death...and I enjoyed seeing Klaus and Elijah. I also loved the phone call that Klaus made to Caroline
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I didn't enjoy it very much. Klaus really should have only being a one season character in TVD, and while the Hybrid storyline was an interesting continuation on of his characters storyline early on in season three, this season he's just been useless. The main problem seems to be with character motivation. Klaus wants to take back New Orleans why? Ejilah wants his family to be reunited why? The witches want to protect Klaus' unborn baby because? The simple answer to these questions is presumably power, but for me, wanting power is not a legitimate motivation unless this desire comes from a more understanding and visualised motivation.
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U do realize that those questions you asked might be awnsered (no, I mean real anwsers, unlike yours) in further episodes?
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I have no doubt that they very well could be, but if we're going off what has happened in TVD, Klaus's character has lacked clear motivation for a good long while, and Ejilah's been all about family since the beginning. I'm just worried the problems they faced on the TVD with be moved over to The Originals.
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Ya u have a point there actually. I guess we just need to wait and see :)
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they lost me the second that they brought up the baby storyline! it was just so jarring and unnecessary, it actually made me really angry. the pilot had everything going for it ... until that point! a great use of the location - i loved the whole atmosphere of the episode and i agree that the tone felt a lot more adult and almost gothic. amazing actors - joseph and daniel were of course pros - but even the new comers like Marcel were pretty awesome. I didn't even really mind Hayley or Camille (and as a Klaroline fan that's saying something). The spin off had everything going for it and I was getting REALLY excited about all of the new possibilities.

And If I am going to be honest here, i was predisposed to not like the episode. Mostly because i know that it'll take away screen time from Klaroline. But as the episode progressed and Klaus started to interact more and more with the other actors ... I didn't think at all about any of the gang in Mystic Falls and was genuinely surprised how much I was enjoying this new dynamic.

But then it happened. 'IT' being Julie Plec's complete and utter Angel/Twilight rip off pregnancy! ok let me be clear. It is not that I am a Klaroline fan and because of this i have to hate the spin off and with it Hayley. It's not even that I dont like Pheobe Tolkin, who I am sure is an excellent actress when she is given the proper material, which Plec has NEVER given her (the poor thing). It's not even that I dont want to see yet another supernatural baby storyline play out.

It's the fact that it makes absolutely no god damn sense! And I am not even talking about within the mythology of the show and about all of the loop holes that, apparently, Julie Plec and her team feel we are going to have to over look or explain away to accept this storyline.

It is simply that this storyline has no purpose what so ever. It does not serve the over all plot and contributes nothing to Klaus' storyline. And - I'm sorry I'm just going to say it - much like Hayley's character has contributed nothing to the TVD plot. Other than headaches and cringes of course.

If Julie Plec really needed a reason to keep Klaus in New Orleans and segway into the spinoff then her path ahead was pretty damn clear. Klaus wants power and control. Klaus, as established in this episode, loves New Orleans and helped found it. Marcel (Klaus feels) has usurped his power and his place as the rightful King of New Orleans. So what should Klaus do? Well, stay in New Orleans of course! And while he's there, enlist the help of the witches (after all they both want the same thing right? to get rid of Marcel. TVD has pulled a lot more fragile alliances than that). And why should Elijah and Rebekah move there? Well because it was the last place that they all felt truly happy in so reason would dictate it'd be a pretty good of place to carry out Klaus' redemption story arc.

I'm sorry about the essay but the whole situation really pisses me off. I've been waiting to watch this episode for months and then THIS is what Plec comes out with? It was like a slap in the face to all of the fans. I felt my IQ points lower by at least 10 points. This is how much Julie Plec thinks about the fans of her show that she would try and force feed us this garbage and call it a storyline. I dont know, maybe I am in the minority here but I just feel really mislead by the writing team and I hope that they're able to fix it by the time that the series airs in the fall. The actors do not deserve this type of crap material.

That is all.
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Totally agreed. I also feel mislead by the writing team. They had many interesting elements in hand to create a compelling storyline. Instead, I feel that Plec got lazy and gave us a very mediocre plot with some really hard to believe elements, which is insulting to the audience (hello, baby??!!). I do hope the baby is a ruse!
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Yes, the pregnancy was ridiculous and as I stated in my comment above, I find it hard to believe that paranoid, self-preservation obsessed, Niklaus Mikaelson allowed himself to believe this so easily. I'm hoping it all turns out to be a ruse because it just doesn't make sense. I love Elijah, but I'm so mad he just went with it like it's no big deal. That stupidity is going to bite them all in the ass.

I hope they make the story stronger because right now, it seems ridiculous that Klaus is going to allow Marcel to walk all over him. You're right though, the motivations for staying in New Orleans are there already, they just need to strengthen them. It's obvious from the way Klaus was looking around that things weren't sitting right with him, especially the "no magic" law. He may have said it was all about power, but Klaus seemed a little more displeased then jealous. He uses witches all the time after all, so why would he want them completely powerless? Also, as a Klaroline fan, I feel that they should have used Klaus' feelings for her to further push him into this redemption arc. Klaus doesn't need some ludicrous hybrid spawn to redeem him when he's already expressed his desire to improve for Caroline's sake. He should release Tyler, leave her alone and let her know that next time she sees him, he hopes to be worthy of her affection.
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Yeah, all of us TVD fans got bitchslapped by Julie Plec this week, and it hurts.
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I'm really not sure about this whole thing... I mean, I was very excited about The Originals before but after seeing the pilot I'm a bit dubious. As just about eveyrone else has mentioned the whole 'baby' thing is very concerning and even though I loved Phoebe Tonkin in TSC, Tomorrow When the War Began and even H20 back in the day, I just don't like Hayley. She's not very interesting and PT's portrayal of her has been a little lacking. Mainly the fact that she and Klaus have almost zero chemistry makes me think that romance will not be able to hold the show.
But also has is anyone else wondering why it matters so much that THIS baby lives? Surely if Klaus can now procreate since becoming a hybrid, then he could go knock up any other girl he wanted? (or at least any other werewolf depending on how the rules work)
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I don't really think they're planning to do a romance between Hayley and Klaus. It's actually a lot more interesting if they don't like each other, both wanting different things for the baby. I kind of think Hayley will take issue with her baby becoming Klaus' "heir" to do with however he pleases.
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who said the baby will live? It can always die. As for Hayley and klaus romance. i don't think there is a possibility there. She was just a hook up carrying their consequence.
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Yeah, I don't think they're going to go that route. At least I hope they won't. Those two don't like each other at all so they should be friends at best. Klaus even said he doesn't give a crap about her so they would have to put in A LOT of effort in order to develop a realistic romance between them. At this point they need to put all their focus on the story because right now it needs some serious help. Ugh!

I love the Originals, but this episode did not do them justice. The convos between them were GREAT, but the rest of it wasn't. I was really hoping they'd use this spin off to start at the beginning and show us how they became who they are today. I enjoyed all of the Originals' flashbacks. They're way better then the Salvatores', although I enjoyed the one between Damon and Lexie as well as the story of how Katherine turned them.

Here's to hoping that the writers see all the negative reviews, and nip all these issues in the butt at the very beginning next season. I don't see the show surviving long if they don't.
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It was okay but I was hoping for it take place after they became vampires. You know like watch the hero turn into a villain Anakin Skywalker thing.
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THIS! That is exactly what I was hoping for when they first announced it, but then they started all this talk about New Orleans...my hopes were dashed before it even began. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a better story and a lot of flashbacks though. The past is a major part of what makes the Originals so interesting. That, their strength, and how well they play off one another.
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Okay, just watched it again to see if I could like Marcel and I just dont. He reminds me of a rat and a dirty one at that and I think Klaus needs to kill him as soon as he gets the chance..Just ram his fist through his chest and be done with it. I didnt care about Haley still, well I kinda did but it was only like a hum feeling and I love that I got to see Elijah and I wonder how Caroline is going to react when she finds out that Klaus is going to be a father...I think it might affect her, which could be a good thing...back to the show...I actually watched it 3 times and Marcel didn't grow on me one time. He is just the prince and Klaus is the King and he needs to know his place is not in front of the line but behind Klaus...Its like what someone else said, Marcel is the child and kept the seat warm till Daddy got home, so now Marcel needs to step aside and let Klaus rule or he could just get killed by Klaus...yay to that! And i got to see the full promo for next weeks vampire diaries and I think it reminds me of when Caroline was tortured by her father and when they locked Stefan up in the jail to try and make him feel something. But I am tired of the whole trying to fix Elena and which guy she will pick or picked, whichever,whatever....I say find someone for Stefan and someone for Damon and let Elena know what it feels like to be alone without either guy chasing her...I am team Salvatore and Klaus and Caroline or however the spelling of their nickname is spelled,lol....But anyway, I know that I am tired of the Silas storyline on the vampire diaries and wish that would just bring back all the dead people already and make sure the dead people actually stay this time, no more ghost town! Anyway I am also tired of the show because of the storyline and the way the show is going and its just blah but I will watch both shows because I want something exciting to happen on the vampire diaries and i want Marcel to die on the Originals...I wonder who will recap the Originals for the people that will watch it?? Sorry, rambling, done for now..
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I didn't like Marcel either. I really wanted to since he is Klaus' prodigy and I'm really curious about that relationship. Especially since they mentioned that he was an orphan who grew up on the streets before Klaus took him under his wing. I hope they do flashbacks, but ugh he's so obviously against Klaus it's ridiculous. He didn't even try to hide his deception. That vervain bit was so stupid. In what world would Klaus ask someone a question, let them avoid answering and then take vervain RIGHT in his face two seconds later? I don't care who you are, that would NOT fly. I don't even think Caroline could get away with without a confrontation of some sort. Maybe I would believe it if the rapport between them was better, but it was riddled with blatant lies and mistrust. They didn't seem close at all which also brought down the quality of the episode. It made everything too obvious. It would be so much better if Marcel successfully deceived Klaus then stabbed him in the back. The stakes would be so much higher, but Klaus (and the audience) were on to him from the get go.
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I am hoping that Klaus kills Marcel as soon as the first fall episode
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Okay, besides the entire Hayley section of this episode, I thought it was good.
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I agree 100%...take out Hayley and im on board...she has ruined enough....
ruined Klaus ruined Klaroline ruined Tyler ruined Forwood ruined Elijah ruined The Originals ruined TVD got pregnant with a 1000 years old hybrid got Klaus’ hybrids killed which means both seasons 2 and 3 were for nothing disgust the entire fandom
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LOL yeah she pretty much ruined everything. Her character was meant to be unlikable and ruin things though, and it would be fine if they just went for the full ruining and killed her after like they were suppose to.

- She should have had a more drastic effect on Forwood, but they held back. I really thought Klaus was correct about what happened in the mountains. And even if it wasn't true, Caroline still accepted Tyler's word too easily. There should have been a bigger fight there so Tyler could prove his innocence.

-Even if Tyler didn't cheat, Hayley still wanted him. She should have tried to make a move which caused issues between her and Tyler, or her and Forwood combined, but she didn't. Okay fine.

- Caroline should have been more jealous about her mysterious presence in Tyler's house even if nothing ever happened, but they didn't go there either.

- Klaus should have been furious with her when she told him the truth about the hybrids and sent him off to slaughter them. Why would Klaus only blame Tyler when it was so obvious she was involved? He should have killed her there. They never even discussed all that.

- Why didn't Caroline or Stefan ever retaliate? They just pushed that under the rug like it didn't matter. They had Klaus kill Carol instead which, I have no issue with, but what Tyler and Hayley did was still wrong.

- She was involved in this Silas crap, but has absolutely no involvement now. That doesn't make any sense. None of it does. They didn't utilize her character at all, she caused some discomfort, but ultimately she was a waste of space that brought down the characters around her. It's fine if you want to bring in a character to cause problems, but what's the point if you're not going to follow through? Go big or go home. Julie Plec failed on that and now she's trying to make someone who should have raised the death count, into someone important. Nope.
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I love this way more than the regular TVD!
It is gonna be AWESOME!
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Just love it!! Can't say anything else...It was nice to see Klaus so active and with all different faces and emotions in one episode. Cool that Phoebe Tonkin is getting a bigger role. Can't wait for it to start!!
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By the way, Cory thanks for

A) Taking one for the team and actually having to sit through this piece of garbage episode and then having to try write about it intelligently
B) Using smaller words than Andy in your review. (Because, honestly, this show didn't deserve anything other than an "ugh" as it's review. It was atrocious.)
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C) Doing it all in less than four days! (SORRY!!)
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LOL that was my reaction, along with "Come on Klaus." "Give me a break" "Kill them already" and "WHAT?! A baby? I'm done with you."
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Oh, Julie Plec and the CW: I hate you for pulling the worst bait-and-switch I've seen in years. Promise us a show with some of the best characters on TV (Klaus! Elijah! Rebekah!) and then you ruin it by throwing in some really horrible, uninteresting, and unlikable characters like Hayley. Lure us into watching with a really cool trailer that looked like it was actually going to feature violence, intrigue, scheming, etc. and instead you give us an even lower budget version of the last Twilight movies with Hayley as Klaus's freaking baby momma. I seriously cringed watching it.

I REALLY wanted to like this show because I heart Joseph Morgan like it's my job and I think he's by far the most talented actor ever on a CW show. I really want him to succeed. And I love the characters and wanted them to have a chance to shine outside the boring Elena love triangle. So when I heard they were doing a spin-off, I was pumped. I thought surely we'll get to see some of the awesome 1,000 year history of the Original vampires - like them meeting Magellan, inspiring Shakespeare, or turning out to be the real killers behind Czar Nicholas.

Instead, we got a giant pile of steaming excrement dumped on us by Julie Plec, who surely must have been a few bourbons deep when she wrote this plot. I couldn't even make it more than halfway through the episode. It was boring, cliched, and totally uninspiring. I thought season 4 was disappointing - but my disappointment for this spin-off was even greater. Sooooo bummed right now.
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Okay, so maybe I was wrong. I liked the episode (sorta) because most of the pilots I've seen (*cough* TVD *cough*) are, um, terrible. Maybe it's because of Joseph and Daniel and Charles (who OWNED this episode, BTW) but I thought it was mostly tolerable. Yes, the whole baby thing is ludicrous and crazy (Hayley's gonna be preggers until, like, season 2 and then the baby Burlington will be an infant for, um, forever? LAME) but I felt most of the other parts were . . . not as terrible as they could have been. I like the brotherly bonding (what did I tell you about their whole thing from last episode totally blowing over?) between Klaus and Elijah, and I think the fact that the whole racial witch thing wasn't included was wonderful. Aside from Esther the White Witch this part of TVD has been incredibly disappointing. BONUS: New Orleans. It's a wonderful town full of rich history and promise not to mention tons of supernatural myths / legends / facts (in the case of The Originals). This town is freakin' splendid, and it might be the saving grace of the series. (And yes, I know they'll be filming mostly in Atlanta for crossover ease). I feel like everyone's focusing on the bad parts of the episode, and it wasn't all bad! Most of it was pretty good, really. It's just that the bad parts were so overwhelmingly BAD that everybody forgot about the GOOD parts. Like Marcel. A few more episodes and I might even have a new favorite character! This guy was amazing, so kudos to Charles Michael Davis. Beautiful.
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I'll be the first to admit I love anything with Joseph Morgan in it. The episode wasn't that bad if you totally exclude everything to do with Hayley, unfortunately I think that's what the whole show will revolve around. Not gonna lie I will probably still watch it, I'll hate myself as I do it, but I will give it a try. I did re-watched the episode today and felt a little less rage, but I still don't like the story and I'm concerned.
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That's all I ask. Just try to watch it. Honestly, 99% of pilots SUCK. I think it will get better with Rebekah (I would see a Marbekah storyline! (Recel? Is there a good way to combine Rebekah and Marcel?)) in the picture. And I like the promise that Sophie shows as becoming the next JerHulk. (She totally had that emo / goth thing going this episode, especially in that first scene, whew!)
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Marbekah FTW. It's kind of like Mabekah (Matt & Rebekah) but cooler sounding. =D APPROVED.
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haha yes Sophie as JerHulk, love it. I figure you are right I mean the first season of TVD itself was sorta terrible so I should give Originals a shot. Also I don't know if Marcel is gonna last long enough to be with Rebekah but I could see her doing it just to annoy her brothers. I vote for Marbekah it sounds more unique, Recel sounds sorta like Rachel with a lisp or something.
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OK, I'll concede that there were two good things about this episode:

1) It took place in New Orleans, which is cool.
2) Joseph and Daniel are great actors (I'm not sold on Charles yet).

So, it had location and two quality actors going for it. If you can overlook the horrible plot and all the other not-so-great actors/characters (Hayley, I'm looking at you...), then it wasn't that bad of an episode.
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THANK YOU. Also there was a crazy amount of not-racial crumpet-making going on in this episode. Which is always a plus, right? (Crumpets / crumpet-makers = Witches / witchy happenings. It's all in my recap, which I'm thrilled about, BTW. Sorry it's taking so long).
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Depressingly accurate
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I couldn't agree more.
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OMG yes! I was so excited for this, for the originals to finally get away from the petty teenage drama of elena and her salvatores, to go back to NOLA and have some bloody and violent scenes with the witches and vamps down there. to see some powerplay and some game of thrones type show...what we got was an incredible episode...and then suddenly we were stuck in a cheap knockoff of twilight, except far worse because majority of the fandom is disgusted with the CHARACTER hayley...not pheobe...smh...her character has ruined a lot...ruined Klaus, Klaroline, Tyler, Forwood, Elijah, The Originals, TVD, got pregnant with a 1000 years old hybrid, got Klaus’ hybrids killed which means both seasons 2 and 3 were for nothing and has disgusted the entire fandom

Honestly though i was loving the show until hayley and elijah were like klaus. big bad hybrid, were having a baby...someone needs to hire new writers...because i can say that this spin off lost fans before it even got picked up. the moment a baby was brought into this supposed new violent world in the TVD universe....tons of us peace-d out...bye tvd, and originals, im done...officially this time
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Yeah, the baby thing was ridiculous. I was already annoyed with the episode because I felt that Klaus was being too soft and lenient. How did he not kill those two lackeys following him? That's not Klaus at all, just another stupid moment where Klaus didn't get the information he came for (cough* disgusting dinner with Hayley * cough). Don't get me started on Marcel and the vervain...so stupid. It's like they're weakening Klaus already and he didn't even agree to this redemption path yet. And then they had Elijah kill those guys? While violence from him is acceptable because he looks cool doing it, it was annoying that Elijah (the moral brother) had to kill people that Klaus should have already taken out for his own purposes. And then the baby...ugh. How is it possible to jump the shark in the very first episode? What's next? Is Klaus going to be on the Stefan diet? Please stop.

If the writers aren't going to try, I'd rather they didn't bother. Leave the Originals on TVD and do something with them (Klaroline & Stebekah), give them the glorious death they deserve, or let them leave town for good, any of these, but please don't ruin such great characters unnecessarily.
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i think the originals will be better than tvd because nowadays tvd is becoming kinda boring ...... so i think this spin off would be a good thing
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I'm actually more exited about this show now, though I'm also of two minds about the baby storyline. That said, I'm not freaking out about it too much, because I potentially see it going in the direction of Hailey and the baby dying, just as Klaus is beginning to care about them. Which gives him something interesting to deal with, without having to either have a baby around on the show, or age the baby quickly ala Connor in Angel. Either way, I'm interested in what the baby storyline does NOW - my concerns are more about where it will go eventually.

But I liked the premise for the new show, I like the setting and (most) of new characters - the witch, Marcel, Camille. And I love Klaus and Elijah.

I was initially concerned that this seemed a bit like the end of TVD, because the past 2 seasons, a lot of the conflict has centered around Klaus and his family. But now I'm thinking moving them could actually be a really good way to refocus TVD. A lot of characters have been put on the backburner - Bonnie (who has basically become a plot device instead of a character), Matt, Tyler, and even Stefan, to an extent. I used to think those characters had become boring, but now I feel that maybe they just haven't been given enough attention lately. Now maybe the show can refocus on them and give them some good storyline.

I do kind of wish Caroline could go over to the new show. Not just so we could continue the Klaroline romance, which I am interested in, but also because I feel like she's sort of been played out on TVD. I liked her and Tyler, but they're sort of played out. She's not really interested in being Elena's friend anymore, hasn't been all season - I know supposedly that's become she misses the 'old' Elena and just wants her back, but that ship has sailed, I think. And I could see her fitting in in New Orleans really well. I don't really think it's going to happen, and I'm not even sure if it's possible (not sure how the contracts work or anything), but I wish it could happen.

Thanks for the review, Cory, I really enjoy all your reviews.
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too bad pheobe tonkin is some type of goddess to the CW and they seem to want to keep running shows into the ground over her...Hayley ruined a lot on TVD and now she has ruined the spin off, which has amazing potential...but the writers shouldve written a more likeable character and found a better way to make us like her than making her pregnant with half of one of the most popular couples on the show...klaroline is as popular...if not more popular than delena...smart move writers...u sure know how to keep your fans wanting more...not...because most of us are officially done with this illogical bullshit
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I liked it but wished that Klaus would've just killed Marcel right away
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I don't think Marcel will be gone anytime soon, Klaus and him are gonna have an even more intense love / hate relationship than Klaus and Stefan did.
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See, I liked Marcel. And I buy him being hesitant to kill Marcel, because we've already seen how he can about his former BFFs, like Stefan. And with the baby, Klaus actually has something to lose, which means Marcel could actually be a real threat to him.
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Really? I felt like Marcel was too obvious in his deceit. I didn't feel the truth behind that mentor relationship they kept going on about. I feel like there was mistrust there from the get go. If he's really Klaus' prodigy, why was Marcel acting so shifty as soon as they started having a "friendly" convo. Klaus didn't mention anything about wanting to take over, or even staying there, but Marcel anticipated it which ruined the dynamic between them. I would have liked it better if they had real camaraderie between them, and then Marcel got upset with Klaus later on. It's obvious that whole show with killing the witch was to prove something to Klaus, that he shouldn't mess with Marcel. It was dramatic, just like Klaus told Sophie and I wish he commented on it at the time. Marcel could have been upset that Klaus didn't approve.

I don't know, I guess the directing of the emotions were off. Everything you're saying about Klaus not wanting to kill his friend, the way he didn't want to kill Stefan, that's all there. They just didn't strengthen it enough for it to be believable. I felt like there was no true emotion in this episode until the baby twist was revealed. If you're going to go for something crazy like that, you have to make sure the audience is really engaged beforehand, not just simply curious or you'll scare them away. And they have for a lot of people.
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I didn't necessarily get a lot of emotion between Marcel and Klaus either, but it was only a 40-minute episode and they obviously wanted to establish a good plot premise. However, I felt like the potential was there to explore more of the relationship between them, which I would think they intend to do once the show actually gets going.

And I wasn't surprised Marcel was immediately on the defensive when Klaus came to town because, well, it's Klaus. Knowing him, it wouldn't be likely he'd just come to town in a visit, especially when he hasn't bothered to visit in a hundred years. Marcel probably guessed he wanted something, and Klaus being Klaus, it wouldn't be hard to think that maybe he wanted to take over again.
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They could always find a new threat and just take Marcel out completely
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i was so happy with this no elena episode...that story is getting really really dragged out. even the sylus* story is stupid he doesn't feature and there was so much hype about him but 90% of the episodes is about that princess that wants to a human so she can go to dances.


this show has fallen flat on its face really.


i thoroughly enjoyed this episode i like any story of power i like anymore movie about the rise and fall of power.i don't know what that dude from greys was doing in it, i can't wait to see if they will keep or replace him for the originals.

Elijah and Klaus are the only reason i enjoy VD ...they command their scenes . the baby in this episode was created to give reason why they would feel the need to leave mystic falls...family values, personally i would have killed Caroline. i look forward to the originals.
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In the darker, more mature spin-off, Hayley herself resolves the fan-alienating ‘baby plot’ controversy…

Hayley, to the assembled: “Hey! Someone tell the Sisterhood of the Traveling Candles I’m not gonna need those fat pants, after all. My body, my choice. Got an abortion last Thursday. Mikaelson Men, welcome to the 21st century. I’m off to Vegas!”

And with one bold leap, The Originals lands knee deep in the murky quagmire of gender/sexual politics. The crowd goes wild!
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I demand the spinoff!!!
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I really don't get this. I don't. Klaus needs an heir as an immortal? Elijah just breaks up with the one he loves for centuries - just to be with his brother who daggered and betrayed him again and again? Witches are somewhat powerless (and even can't do this noise-in-the-head-of-a-vampire-thing so they'll have to let them go)? Klaus doesn't just kill Marcel? HALEY (of all characters) is pregnant from Klaus (because he was BORN a werewolf but became a vampire later - that was the explanation or am I missing something?)? Damon is boring as hell (as is the whole story in Mystic Falls)?

WTF happened??? This is ridiculous! And ridiculously boring (found myself doing other stuff while "watching" - that's something that never happened the seasons before). And there's no Price who could at last make fun(ny recaps) of this. Well.....
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I'm really confused why Elijah had to break up with her too. Why make her waste her time getting involved with this cure nonsense, and putting herself in danger to bargain with Klaus, if Elijah was just going to leave her two days later? After waiting 500 years to be together, I don't believe Elijah would honestly do that. Klaus granted her freedom didn't he? So why is he suddenly cutting her off? Does Nina not want to be involved with working on the Originals or something? Although, maybe she read the script and said "What? Hybrid spawn? Yeah, I didn't sign on for that."

Why do they believe that crap anyway? Do they really think Hayley wouldn't have sex with a living, reproductively, capable man? Did Klaus not see that ratchet, club dress she wore to a pageant of all things? She's not an elegant, moral woman. She's a lying, manipulative, backstabber whose unnecessarily confrontational and Klaus knows this. Aside from her looking for her parents, no one knows squat about this random ass girl so why do they believe them or these weird witches who they just met? That werewolf explanation was such a cop out. Ugh. So many stories they could have went with that would have worked with these characters and they picked something completely off the map. Now they're going to turn this into Maury. I can't wait til our Mikaelsons hear the words "You are NOT the father" then they'll realize how gullible they were.
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Scratch that part about Klaus granting her freedom. I just remembered that's not what happened lol, But still, so what.
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I didnt know the CW was picking up a comedy...with their logic...that is what this has become...
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So glad I wasn't the only one who was bored with this and found this totally ridiculous! And I agree that we totally needed Price to at least salvage this with some humor!
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Working on my recap. I know it's not as good but it's something, right? (If it's not lie to me or I'll never finish the damn thing). :(
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I didn't mind the powerless witches part, he probably has something of their weakness, we've seen werewolves and vampires weak to certain things why not witches.
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I am just hoping that Marcel dies...
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Amen,...
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Agreed (mostly). These are pretty much all the logical thoughts I had going through my head during this crazy whirlwind.

- An immortal can't have an heir; he's IMMORTAL, that kid ain't going to inherit anything.

- I know Elijah's big on family but ditching Katherine so fast? We've heard him plenty of times going on about how much he loves her and yet with just a quick peck he's on his way?

- The witches do seem pretty lame. Although, to be honest, I was just so surprised that two of them were white that I couldn't take them seriously as "real" witches. Seems like The Originals is going for diversity.

- Klaus, rip Marcel's heart out for being such a b*tch and get back to Caroline. But don't forget to send the odd to cheque to Hayley as she raises your weird, hybrid baby.

And yet, despite all this craziness and conflict (which can honestly be solved in five minutes), I did find myself enjoying it. I think TVD and OUAT have just gotten me so used to absurdity that I just roll with it now.
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Although I agree on the atrocious baby-part, I enjoyed the rest of the episode quite a lot. Maybe it's because I don't mind what Klaus does as long as I can watch him for forty minutes. Marcel seemed interesting, but Sophie stayed a little pale for the episode. Surprisingly, I even liked Camille (which from description sounded like an Elena 2.0), but since the writers haven't overdone her presence, she was okay.

I just don't understand why they force Hailey's presence so much. It's ridiculous. She somehow just doesn't find in and doesn't have any chemistry with anyone. Can't they send her back to Mystic Falls? I didn't mind her with Tyler.
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Yeah she should go play house with Tyler and raise the baby with him. Klaus will be so happy that he doesn't have to change diapers and that Caroline is free that he would just let Tyler live.
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Without a shadow of a doubt this has to be my least favourite TVD episode across all 4 seasons, as well as the worst pilot episode I have ever seen in my life. The baby storyline made me cringe - can't we go back and forget it all? The interwoven scenes with Elena/Stefan/Damon just didn't work for me. The whole idea of Klaus' sudden need for power sounded forced and unnecessary. I was looking forward to the Originals spin-off but this is just ridiculous - I don't think I'll be watching.
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Exactly, Klaus already has power. Besides, I actually thought he seemed displeased with some of the things he saw, not jealous. He definitely wanted to intervene when Marcel started questioning that witch. He looked annoyed with the display, and he even said later on that it was dramatic. I'm surprised he didn't give the witch his blood. He knows he needed to question her so why didn't he do anything? Also, the triangle stuff definitely didn't fit at all. If they were using Rebekah and Katherine for exposition, they didn't need those three.
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So if I remember correctly the witches want Klaus to basically kill Marcel, right? So where is the problem? Klaus is the second oldest vampire on the planet (right behind Elija) and being the Hybrid he´s the most powerful one. Shouldn´t he have been able to basically kill Marcel and his "family" in a matter of seconds without even breaking a sweat? But I guess that would make for a rather short show.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Kill them all, grab a drink and be back in Mystic Falls before tea time.
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I just feel the urge to quote Thomas Galvins tweet here b/c it was the best,
""Everybody needs an heir." -Klaus "NO YOU FUCKING DON'T YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO DIE." -Reality #TVD"
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Did anyone else find the bits with Stefan, Damon and Elena woven into the episode a little awkward? I just felt like those scenes didn't really fit with what was going on but that might just be me tbh.
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yes,... I am wondering if they are going to repeat this episode in the originals,...
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I'll be watching the originals next season. I think it was a good back-door pilot and set-up the whole concept and universe of the spin-off.
ok the baby story is kind of weird but it could bring the best and the worse from Klaus so it is good. the originals will be a show about the original family taking back the power and regning over the New Orleans. what i like about this episode is that the relations between both shows (TVD & its spin-off) are open and carachters can go from one to the other. the phone call from klaus to caroline was a way to leave this door open.
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I never want that door to close; it's barely open as it is.
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I've read the comments below, there are some pros and cons. Here are my opinions about the episode 'The Originals':
- This Marcel character stole the show! For me, he overshadowed Klaus in this episode. But I do have some questions about Marcel. Is he a gay vampire? And why didn't Klaus just kill him (although I wouldn't want that to happen since he's the one and only interesting new character)? That was so not Klaus. And I'm worried he's not gonna be the star of his own show.

- Really, Hayley? I don't want to be a hater, but let's be frank here. Hayley is not an interesting character as Faye in The Secret Circle. And this whole pregnancy plotline doesn't give her character any good. Viewers will dislike her and this uninteresting plot that she has.

- Yes, I agree with one of the comments. Elijah's goodbye to Katerina was just like that? I mean, she is the love of his life, right? I wonder if Katerina will also star in The Originals or not, but I don't think it's going to happen. Nina just can't star in both shows at the same time, right?

- Now with the Originals gone, I think it's about time TVD will bring back all the dead characters through Silas, right? But how come Elena didn't mention Aunt Jenna when she was whining about what might happen if Silas is able to do his plan. Aunt Jenna died as a vampire, so of course she's one of all the dead characters that will be resurrected again, ya?

- With Klaus's gone, I hope Katerina will stick around. And then Tatia will appear too, and it's gonna be triplet doppelgangers. How cool is that? I want to see Nina play three different characters in this show, that would be so badass!

- So the conclusion is, I guess I'll have to see how good is the premiere of The Originals this fall. Then I'll decide whether it's watch-worthy or not.
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I'm worried about the same thing. I felt like they are going to weaken Klaus in this to put him on equal playing field with Marcel. If everyone is going to hold him back, then what's the point? Someone made a comment about him not wanting to kill Marcel the same way he doesn't want to kill Stefan, but he didn't sound reluctant at all. At least with Stefan he's like "I don't really want to, but I will if I have to". I thought the relationship between Marcel and Klaus was weird. They're suppose to be so close, but they didn't seem to trust each other at all. That could be a direction issue though so who knows. I also thought Marcel was gay. Glad it wasn't just me lol.
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Why would witches stay in New Orleans if Marcel has taken over? Why are the witches protecting Hayley instead of, I don't know, telling her to get the hell out of town? There's no reason for Klaus to play by Marcel's "rules"--kill him and be done with it. Seems like this show will fall for the same illogical inconsistencies like TVD.
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The witches are not protecting Hayley. They're taking her as a hostage to make Klaus free them from Marcel's grasp. You should probably watch the episode again my friend. As for not killing Marcel, i don't know but maybe he cares somewhat for the guy since it seems they were buds before Klaus's father came along.
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Seemed like a pretty friendly hostage situation, considering Klaus could have killed them all if it was remotely real.
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Everyone expects Klaus to just about kill anyone who steps in front on him now. He had countless times to kill the Salvatore brothers but he never did even after they tried to kill him many times i could count. So Who know why he's not killing all willy-nilly, but if he was no one would be left on that show at that point. I do recall however Klaus stating that witches have always been a force to not underestimate so maybe he doesn't think it's "friendly hostage" for him.
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Well, considering Klaus slaughtered an entire bar just so Jeremy could hurry up with the map, I'm a little confused too lol. We know he has a soft spot for Stefan and I think Damon's life has been spared because of that as well. But you do have a point, Klaus doesn't kill as much as he'd like people to believe, At the same token, he seemed more then ready to kill Marcel.

I think Klaus is weirded out by the whole "suppressing magic" thing. Klaus uses witches all the time. He may not respect them as people, but he does respect the power they hold. It's really just Bonnie that he treats like crap. He looked uncomfortable to me during that execution Marcel conducted. Probably more so because he needed to speak with her, but still. I felt like the whole situation in New Orleans didn't sit right with him, he looked displeased/uncomfortable more then jealous or appreciative for most of the episode.
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