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The Vampire Diaries "We'll Always Have Bourbon Street" Review: Master & Servant (PHOTO RECAP)

The Vampire Diaries S04E08: "We'll Always Have Bourbon Street"

If I had to trace all of the world's problems to ONE thing, the thing that everyone in the world should stop doing immediately (besides murder, which in the context of The Vampire Diaries is a minor annoyance at worst), it's everybody trying to get all up in each other's business all the time. Think about every major political or cultural issue and it all comes down to people trying to meddle in other peoples' lives. Knock it off, busybodies! Stop trying to legislate morality or dispatch armies when your time would be better spent making a nice sandwich or tending to your herb garden. Because The Vampire Diaries is nothing if not the vanguard of modern social theory, this week's episode "We'll Always Have Bourbon Street" tackled this very important issue head-on. And it was terrific! Just a terrific episode, in my opinion. Last week I feared that this whole siring thing was too nonsensical to hinge a plotline around, and worse, it had the potential of turning otherwise sympathetic characters into full-time cockblocks. But as usual my fears were unfounded because "We'll Always Have Bourbon Street" immediately set about subverting expectations and, if anything, totally agreeing with me that meddling is the worst. Also this episode had tons of other things going for it: Flashbacks! Dancing! Grody sex! Werewolf armies! Phoebe Tonkin looking pissed! Witch drugs! And some good, old-fashioned, nuanced angst. That final scene was comprised of just a few words and gestures yet was still more meaningful and affecting than even the most dramatic speech or sexy montage. Good one, show.

But don't just take my word for it, here are some be-captioned photos to prove it!

Okay this grossed me out, sorry. Let's put aside the fact that these two people are a real life thing, all I could think about was that they had morning breath and Elena was late for school. Also, this happened:

This opening montage was a parallel to how the previous episode ended: Damon and Elena shirtless hugging while Caroline and Stefan plotted to overthrow their love or whatever.

For me the only thing I liked about this part was that apparently Stefan crashed at Caroline's house and apparently Sheriff Forbes either didn't care, or she herself maybe stayed the night at someone else's house. And now suddenly I NEED to know what's up with Sheriff Forbes. What's her name, Sheriff? Is it Carol? Oh please tell me it's Carol.

New shirtless dude:

This was apparently the final hybrid to be sired to Klaus, but he was having a rough go of it. The systematic breaking of bones probably isn't the easiest thing to get used to, but at least we got another fantastic showcase for spandex out of it.

So Kim was the sassy hybrid from the previous episode whom I had THOUGHT that I liked, but I was wrong. Turns out she's awful! For one thing, she had just broken her sire bond but for some reason didn't think it was important for other hybrids to do the same. Suddenly she was all, "Plymouth rock landed on hybrids" or whatever and her attitude definitely threatened to ruin Tyler and Hayley's unsiring schemes.

Meanwhile Stefan could NOT contain himself and decided to tell Damon that his and Caroline's casual theory about the sire bond was DEFINITELY 100% happening:

Even though it was true that Elena was likely bonded to Damon, I still felt kinda bad for Damon here. If we are to believe that he's truly in love with Elena (and has been for some time), it must be kind of a blow to learn that maybe his love was, in some way, not requited. Or worse, that Damon's only shot for true love wouldn't be possible without some kind of supernatural circumstance. But the twist of this episode that turned a weird situation into an extremely poignant one was this: Damon had no intention of taking advantage of the sire bond. If anything he seemed super disappointed to hear this and was immediately eager to clear things up. So yeah, his reaction proved that he is a totally different Damon these days compared to the one who first flew around Mystic Falls and chomped on rando teenagers back in the pilot. Growth!

Anyway, at school (LOL school), Elena's friends were acting kinda weird toward her. All questioning where she slept the night before, telling her she looked kinda sloppy, stuff like that.

I mean, Elena didn't outright admit that she'd just spent the night swinging around on another branch of the Salvatore family tree, but come on. It was written all over her face.

Because this is not a functional high school, Damon showed up and gave Elena a vampire Capri-Sun and told her to enjoy it. The thinking was, if her body didn't reject it (as it had in the past), then she was legit sire-bonded to him.

And it worked: Sire bond verified. Also, credit where credit's due, Elena CRACKED A JOKE in this scene and it was actually FUNNY. She described her past experience with a blood bag as tasting like "hot garbage". You know? It's a start. But yeah, poor Damon! His lady was a mind slave! (Or something far less dramatic than that.)

We also learned more about the weird partnership between Shane (he's just going by Shane now according to Bonnie) and Hayley. It turned out she wasn't helping him because they were plotting stuff together or even because she had a crush on him. No, it turned out that she was systematically unsiring Klaus' hybrids in exchange for information on her biological parents. Sort of a quid quo pro but with werewolves sort of thing.

Aw, Hayley just wants to find her parents. I knew she wasn't bad.

Okay, so even though I don't usually love flashbacks (aside from wigs), I thought this episode did a great job with its flashbacks. This was a WWII-era one (which, was that the most recent time period we've flashed back to yet?) in which Damon and the gang were hanging around on Bourbon Street for some reason. Alas, no wigs:

But there WAS a highly relevant sired vampire situation:

In this case Damon had turned a girl into a vampire and her willingness to follow even his most casual suggestions to a T meant that she was sired to him! This flashback prompted Damon and Stefan to travel to New Orleans in order to seek out a local witch with whom he'd once consulted back in the day for similar unsiring purposes.

While the bros were away, Elena took the opportunity to invite her ladypals over for a night of expensive champagne and girl talk! But Caroline was still in a very judgey mood, so the evening was not without its occasional moments of tension.

Okay, this was a Top 5 All-Time Bonnie moment right here:

HAHA NOW WE'RE TALKING. Bonnie busted out this enormous ziplock baggie of witch weed like it was HER JOB. You know I love a witch drug. But joking aside, it was a rare moment when Bonnie was there to cheer people up. Something about seeing her friends be miserable really brought out the sunshine in our moody witch. I liked it!

So, just FYI, here's what New Orleans' Bourbon Street looks like on The Vampire Diaries. Haha first of all, that is not what Bourbon Street looks like. Last time I was there it looked like an open sewer littered with half-empty yardgarita containers. I went there with Lily Sparks and she pointed out how a popular joke t-shirt they sell there says "I got Bourbon-faced on sh*t street" isn't even kidding about that second part and it should really just say "I got sh*t-faced on sh*t street." Anyway, it was here on sh*t street where the Salvatore bros started bickering, like they do.

GET A ROOM YOU GUYS. Haha just kidding they are heterosexual brothers. But still, their spats are getting increasingly personal lately. I did like how Stefan immediately regretted being mean to Damon and promptly apologized. I don't know, it was a nice moment for him. I hope at some point he goes on to apologize to the families of all the people he murdered, and maybe also provide a more thorough apology to Elena for that time he terrorized her on at the site of her parents' death. As of now his overall remorse for that period is at a Chris Brown level of audacity. Sorry, guy!

I still want to see some kind of infographic to back this up, but apparently Stefan and Damon hadn't seen each other at all between 1912 and WWII, by which point Lexi had cured Stefan of his Ripper ways and he was ready to be chills bros again with Damon. So yeah, there was next to no brotherly bickering after Pearl Harbor!

Not only were they getting along, Damon was seriously considering joining the Army so that he could fight alongside Stefan, who had signed up to be an ambulance driver overseas. Unfortunately, Lexi did not think that was a good idea.

As much as I adore Lexi (and I'm still pretty mad at Damon for murdering her for, in retrospect, almost no reason), her reasoning here was pretty sketchy. Something to do with Damon being a bad influence on Stefan, who was somehow still fragile enough to be on the cusp of a relapse but would be fine dealing with wounded soldiers all day. I don't know. But, you know, dramatic conflict and all that.

Speaking of dramatic, remember that lady vampire who'd been sired to Damon back in the day? She was still chillin' in New Orleans!

Not only that, but she was following his instructions to wait for his return, and in an alarmingly creepy way: She'd spent the last 70 years counting up every brick in every building in New Orleans. (She didn't give us a total, but I'm guessing it was at least in the three figures.) So yeah. Scary. I'm tempted to accuse this show of making a troubling statement about the female psyche with regard to how much its female characters' lives revolve around men, but I know how much you guys LOVE when I get serious. Anyway yeah, I can't imagine anything worse than someone giving themselves over totally to someone else like this. Total nightmare. Sorry lady, nobody deserves that kind of fate.

OH HEY LOOK, DANCING!!!

I love me some dancing on this show. I don't care the reason, context, or character. DANCE KIDS, DANCE! So yeah. Loved this.

I also loved how this momentary 'we don't need men' moment was immediately followed by a conversation about men.

While chillin' in Damon's bathtub (?) Elena let slip that she rode Damon's pony all around the carnival and Caroline shifted back into judgmental mode. Which caused Elena to get SO MAD and storm out. But let me just say that I LOVED that. Elena SHOULD get pissed off and lose her temper more often! There is seriously just tons of foolishness going on around her all the time. That she's actually starting to get mad about stuff is just good character development. More of this please!

So then Damon and Stefan paid that New Orleans witch a visit, and I LOL'd because she was played by Tara's mom from True Blood. Also, she claimed that she didn't know magic anymore.

Like, I'm sorry, but if you are a witch with a library of ancient texts, you probably have at least a PDF backup in your Dropbox. I did not believe this lady's story!

Anyway, then Caroline took the opportunity to tell Elena about the fact that Elena was sired to Damon.

Elena did not take it well! But before they could really and truly have a falling out, a couple of hybrids busted in and took the vampires hostage.

So then Bonnie busted out her best defense spell!

Aaaand it didn't work. Yeah, now that she was using a different kind of magic I guess she was back to novice levels, so the best she could do was make sparks fall out of the light fixture. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a point when she could make Klaus' brain hurt with just a flick of her wrist?) Anyway, yeah, Kim stole Caroline which was NOT OKAY.

Back at the witch shop, Damon sussed out the witch's lies (she ended up being super old, but Damon said she didn't look a day over 50, which in my opinion was a TOTAL BURN seeing as she looked 35 at most, but whatever).

As it turned out, Damon had attempted an unsiring spell back in the day, it had involved the sacrifice of 12 humans, and it ended up being a fraud: The witch's mother had tricked Damon into murdering 12 people so that she could tap into a world-swallowing type of dark evil! (Wait, how many people died in that fire in the season premiere? Just askin'!) Anyway, that was some Big Bad-style foreshadowing, but re: the siring, it turned out there WAS no solution for that. Damon would simply have to command his mental slave to stop being a slave and then he'd have to leave town.

So yeah, it seemed like a pretty tough situation for Damon. On the other hand, Stefan seemed relatively enthusiastic about it.

Kim got super on my sh*t-list for this one:

I guess her plan involved making Klaus super sad by harming his crush? I'm not sure how that worked, but anyway, Elena stepped up to admit that she was far more important to Klaus than Caroline was.

This whole issue ended up being about Kim trying to establish herself as the Alpha Hybrid of the pack, and the only way Tyler would be able to regain control would be to get her to submit in front of them. So he fisted her ribcage and that was that.

Tyler was very badass in this moment! Yay Tyler, you go boy!

Back in Nawlins, Damon tried out this new unsiring tactic on the sad old vampire from wartimes:

This solution to the siring bond situation was equal parts sad and stupid. So siring is just a kissin' cousin to compulsion. Okay? But still, some major mental gymnastics go into it that make it a pretty poignant thing to have happen: You love someone so much that you stop loving them when they ask you to. Good luck, lady! At least she can stop counting bricks.

Then we received some unnecessary follow-up to the flashback situation (unless you consider seeing Damon in uniform to be necessary WHICH I DO):

Damon showed up to ship out with Stefan, but was intercepted by Lexi:

And that's how that particular story ended. Damon wanted to join the Army but he selflessly didn't join the Army in order for Stefan to not relapse into Ripper Stefan. Or something?

I guess the moral was that sometimes Damon thinks about others before himself. That's a pretty nice message, but it's not a character arc if we already knew this to be fact. Guys, it's Season 4. Damon has done nice stuff all along. Terrible stuff too, but at this point shouldn't we stop being surprised when he's an okay dude?

Then Caroline and Elena made up:

And Hayley successfully broke the final hybrid's sire bond, which entitled her to the full knowledge of her birth parents' whereabouts. Unfortunately the news wasn't good:

BUT! Shane dropped some big hints that it wasn't all that much of an obstacle, her parents being dead and all.

Yeah, who knew what he had in mind, except that the Pastor, Connor, and Shane himself had all implied that "something" was coming to Mystic Falls, and that thing likely involved the return of dead people. Or a warlock. Or the McRib. Something's gonna return.

Then, Damon decided that he had no choice but to "unsire" Elena by commanding her to stop loving him and then leave town? I'm still not totally clear on how this works. But it still felt like he was about to do something completely heartbreaking.

Fortunately/unfortunately (depending on your ship) Elena was fully prepared for this turn of events:

In about a half dozen words Elena made a convincing case that the sire bond ain't sh*t. Tyler had already told her that siring doesn't change emotions, only actions, so she already felt pretty confident that her love for Damon was real and had been present since before she turned. So yeah, it looked like they both were ready to accept the sire bond as a reality and just stand inside their love for the time being. The problem is that Caroline and Stefan seemed pretty certain that Damon would "do the right thing", but they were only half-right. It's just that in this case the right thing was to remain in love? Seemed like a pretty solid decision to me.

Yeah, I really enjoyed this ending. It was the rare TVD ending that didn't involve a super-loud ballad or fussy dialogue. Just a gesture and a watery eye and an unspoken declaration of commitment. Nicely done, you buncha writer hotties! Guys, this was a terrific episode in my opinion, maybe one of the best of the season so far. What did you think?

UHBYE


QUESTIONS:

... Now how you doing?

... What exactly does Professor Shane have in store for this town?

... Does Sheriff Forbes have a boo?

... Have you been to Bourbon Street? What is your grossest memory of it?

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sheriff forbes' name is liz
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I'm thinking the cure to vampirism isn't a what, but a who... Silas. Prof. Shane is going to wake him up with Bonnie's help, and the pastor killed the council as sacrifices to let the eventual magic work. I think they're also going to need Klaus... maybe even put Silas' mind in his body the way Klaus put his mind into Alaric's.
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I live in New Orleans, and totally agree about Bourbon st, it's not fun unless you're really drunk and feeling like doing dirty stuff, then it's completely acceptable! But that is a place for tourist, even though we locals go to the restaurants there often, we have plenty of other super fun places and things to do! what more can I say than, WHO DAT!!!
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i feel like you always say the episodes are terrific but ARE THEY. this season blows compared to the others. its all going downhill. at least every actor on this show is super hot so theres a reason to keep watching
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great ep, great recap - curious about the sherriff, LIZ forbes, as well, what the heck has that lady been up to?

"somebody's walking like a cowboy" bawhahahahahahahahahahahahahah

one thing, the last time i saw damon's original sired chick she was naked and punching Hank Moody in the face. what a different role for that girl!
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Okay sorry if I'm late, very busy week, I'll try to read all the comments when it's not 2 am in the morning!

I just have to say GREAT EPISODE! That final scene had me in tears, that's good acting right there! I love Damon! And also, Caroline WHY!?!? WHAT ARE YOU DOING?? STOP IT NOW! I love you but if you continue with this judging business I'ma have to break this relationship you know?

Also, I've been to Bourbon St! The grossest memory is of an old lady, like 77 years kinda old, walking around with just her underwear and no bra, just little stars in her boobs so that she wasn't completely naked... I HAVE IT IMPRINTED IN MY BRAIN

Also, Price how can everything you write in here be THAT funny? Seriously... you rock
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So I don't know if this has already been pointed out or not, but 630 comments is too many to read, so they need 12 sacrifices right? and they also need 12 unsired hybrids right? Connection?
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Wow I go away for a couple weeks and I feel like I've missed a couple of seasons!

I'm sure others have already pointed it out, but why is everyone so bothered by the sire thing? For 3 seasons the only thing protecting Elena from doing anything ANY vampire wanted was a flimsy necklace which was very easily removed. With the sole exception (that I can recall) of Damon saying he loved her, Damon and everyone else on the whole show opted not to remove her freewill regardless of the innumerable terrible decisions she made. I mean even in like ep1x05 or something when Damon tried to compel her to kiss him before realising she was wearing the necklace he didn't feel the need to just rip it off.
Why would people assume he'll do it now? All the sire bond really does is reset the power dynamic to how it was between Elena and Damon had when she was human.
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I'm officially removing killing Lexi from the crappy things Damon has done list. As much as it pains me to say it, I'm not with you, Price. They didn't fix the sire bond crap. It is totally inconsistent and ambiguous and they've set it up so now Elena can't listen to sense without everybody claiming she's not making decisions. Yay! Damon can never win a group argument again. Awesomesauce. They'll all be dead in a month.

Please no more judgmental Caroline, thank you.
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You're hilarious.

"Katrina took it."

Thanks for sharing these every week!
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"Somebody's walking like a cowboy" made me laugh way more than it should have. Hilarious. The one comment I have about the episode is why Caroline is acting so morally righteous all of a sudden. Murder is acceptable. Sacrificing strangers is no big deal but she calls out Damon for a being a man-ho? Who cares. It's rare when Elena is more likeable than Caroline.
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I am not a Stelena or Delena fan particuarly, I like either but am sick of watching the 2 and fro between them all. I mean it is exactly like what happened with Katherine years ago, they have learned nothing. Elena also knows all about it and still plays with both brothers.. I would really like to see the bond between stefan and damon get stronger, they are brothers and instead of letting history repeat itself, i would love to see them become real brothers who would not let a woman come between them. I mean I'm all for love stories and all but putting siblings on either side all the time is annoying, not to mention elena totally not worth it.. I'd like to see the boys find their strengths in each other. I mean what would happen if it was a choice between elena and each other, would they really let their own brother die for a chick who is basically not worth it because she can't make up her mind. I just once would like to see a show about loyalty between family and not a bloody threeway love triangle. I know it adds flavor but i reckon damon and stefan should each find love with someone else.
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Bros before hoes! :-)
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"My liege" ....the McRib" lolololol love you Price!
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As a fully paid up member of team Delena this ep has left me feeling both 'Yay!' and 'WTF?' I was quite pissed off to start as I though they would cheapen Delena by having it all be down to the sire bond but guess what Stelena fans - her feelings for Damon are REAL!! in your face! which brings me to the WTF portion. The witch confirmed that Elena's sire bond was based on real feelings so Stefan should just get over it and accept it. As Damon has done in the past when he had to deal with the fact Elena chose Stefan over him. Seveal times! Each time Damon did the good thing and back down. this to me confirms what I have known all along. Stefan is a self-righteous douche. Not to mention a sore loser! I really hope that Damon just goes for it this time. BTW even though I am a Delana fan. That 'shirtless hug' at the begining of the ep was totally whack! Eugh!!! On another note - I can't belive that I'm getting so involved in the love triangle. I normally HATE stuff like that. Dear God at this rate I'll be watching Twilight by the end of the week.
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I completely agree with everything you said! Stefan should back the hell off with his holier than thou attitude. Elena has real feelings for Damon, just deal with it!
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Hang on. So, to start with, Stefan doubts that Elena is sire-bonded because its a very rare thing. 'One in a million'. And Damon went and did it TWICE?! Without even trying apparently! Hot damn - that boy is good! LOL.
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well maybe if they sacrifice 12 hybrids like they did with people to make the witch powerful itll make bonnie CRAZY powerful bc shell get her expression power or whatever from hybrids, not people????
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I am a bit confused on that score as I assumed that when the council got blown up THAT was supposed to be the sacrifice. So why does he need to do it again? and why hybrids does it make it more powerful?
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First, great recap! It's the first thing I read on saturday mornings! Now, I need some help from you all to understand this sire bond thing. If I am not wrong, in Episode 2 of this season, Damon tells Elena to pick someone to feed in the Mystic Grill and she refuses, later in Episode 4, Damon tells Elena not to go to the Mystic Grill to save Jeremy and she does it anyway. So, I think I am not getting what the sire bond means, because that other girl was counting bricks for 70 years just because Damon said so.....not at all clear...

I reaaallyyyy missed Klaus in this episode!

Looking forward to see what the 12 thing is all about!
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Elena's bond seems less direct... Anyway I still think Elena is not sired, but the'll keep thinking she is for some chapters. Because "drink this blood bag" is proof enough.
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I agree with you! I still have hope in the writers!
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Vampire Capri Sun Hahahaha! Still laughing over that one Price.
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Something totally irrelevant that I just noticed in this episode: The Salvatores have too many vases on all shapes and colours, which is weird and also a Grand Piano which is awesome!!!! Who's playing it??
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Also, what is up with the comments? In one place it says 220 comments and on another it says 608...
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One of the best things about this recap: the caption of Bonnie holding the witchy drugs. Hillarious! :D
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I have to say that the last two episodes have really pissed me off. Stefan and Elena had a GREAT run, they had almost 3 seasons together, almost 3 seasons for the Stelena fans to enjoy it. Now that Elena is with Damon, they want to F*ck it up already? We Delena fans don't get a run at all? Are you serious? I don't care sire bond or not, as they said it doesn't affect how Elena feels, because for her to be bonded she had to love him BEFORE she was a vampire. It affects what you DO not how you feel and Damon's love for Elena is TRUE, REAL and STRONG. He wouldn't take advantage of her and make her do anything she didn't want to do. I think it is only fair that Delena fans get the same amount of time of enjoyment of Damon and Elena being a couple as Stelena fans did.
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I'm a Damon fan but part of keeping relationships interesting to watch is conflict. Elena and Stefan had a lot of conflict - she finds out he was interested in her because she looks like Katherine; Klaus forcing them apart and Elena's own feelings for Damon, just to name a few. I'm happy to see Elena and Damon together right now but with any relationship comes its own complications - external and internal.
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1. Well, I didn't feel like I was just pushing through the episode to get stick to my schedule which involves almost no commercial watching. The next episode will be the big test if I am happy to watch it. The next morning, I just kind of sighed about it to my coworker.

2. Oh, I have a theory that has been bolstered and expanded upon by others...Shane is either a member of the Five (and has avoided the tattoo to stay undercover) or just weirdly obsessed. Shane initially thought that the sacrifice of the council would open the door to the bad magic or 'expression' (couldn't they have come up with a better term?) to allow him to access Silas' tomb (there is a theory he is Silas, but I think that is unlikely) but he didn't count on Bonnie as the last Bennett witch to have cut her access to magic. So, he needs the 12 hybrids perhaps thinking they are totally supernatural beings to help Bonnie and also, it would screw Klaus (I have a separate theory about that). I have doubts about this because it really sounded like you need 12 lives and aren't hybrid's dead? Like that was Hayley's point to Tyler, all the hybrids had been so focused on their vampire half that they needed reminders they were still werewolves. I forget the exact story that Shane told the school (though I would doubt he told the whole truth) but I am guessing the wife who locked Silas in was the original Bennett witch (heck, Silas was probably the father of the next Bennett witch). So, even though Bonnie would probably be on board with accessing the cure (if there is one, though I wouldn't be surprised if the cure is that Silas can kill a vampire and spread the kill upward through the vampire's line) and curing Elena and Caroline and Tyler and just having alive supernatural creatures around, her ancestors will have something to say about releasing Silas.

3. You hope, though, since she knows the score and likely knows the help Stephan provided to Caroline so that she is the nice version of her daughter for eternity that letting him crash on the couch is fine.

4. Nope but I did wonder if the after Katerina version looks more like that since I understand parts are more gentrified.
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1- stressed out just my Ph D thesis to write... (but I have TVD to chill out a bit!)
2- I don't know but I think it will be huge!
3- Don't think so
4- Never been there but I like these kind of streets!!!

I really enjoyed how they've turned the sired bound stuff in something really subtle... I don't want Delena to be thing yet... I like their chemestry and the attraction between them but it would be too easy if they jump into each other arms right now... I want something epic!
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1 - lol! me too! (but a degree not a Ph D. There is no way I have the stamina to do that so, lots of respect and good luck!)
2- I reckon prof Shane is either the big bad he was talking about during the presentation he made a couple of eps ago OR he is trying to raise the big bad that he was talking about at the presentation a couple of eps ago.
3- She should be so lucky. acutally knowing her she'd probably end up dating the big bad or one of his minions or something. for a town sheriff she has THE worst instincts!
4- have always wanted to go to New Orleans. Never heard of bourbon street before. but I am intrigued now. :-)
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You forgot about the part that the evil magic the witch said her mother got from the human sacrifice, "Expression", was the same magic that the creepy Professor is teaching Bonnie. Plus obviously now that he has his 12 hybrids he's going to sacrifice them for the ultimate "Expression" magic.
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Where was Klaus all this time?
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Who knows? Probably chilling in his mansion/fortress he had some of his hybrids and other servants build from him or was searching for more information regarding the cure. It will be interesting if he finds out about Shane.
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*unless you consider seeing Damon in uniform to be necessary WHICH I DO*
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I really miss the Decades dance. They're up to the 80s, right? I hope Elena and Damon get to dress in matching spandex before they break the sire bond.
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Haha, that would be hilarious.
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1. I'm doing great with only 2 weeks of school left until the summer holidays.

2. Don't know yet. He must be up to something big. Maybe unleashing hell on Mystic Falls.

3. Maybe.4. No because I'm underage.
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First of all, Price: you are hilarious and I love your recaps!
I had to share my theory that maybe the 12 council members were the 12 human sacrifices needed to access the 'dark stuff' and that maybe the 12 hybrids are going to be used as bodies to reincarnate the council members later on. When you think about it, council members are pretty useless being human and all - but if they are witch-zapped from the spirit world into the bodies of hybrids - well, they can kick a bunch of ass then can't they?
Also:
* Lol at Stephan spending the night at Caroline's
* Loved Elena telling Caroline and Bonnie to GTFO of the house - it's great seeing Elena finally getting interesting as a character and not being such a whiner all the time.
* Stephan trying his best not to acknowledge the fact that Elena - sired or not - is in love with Damon.... jealous much?
* Hope Delena can find a way to live with/around the sire bond and be happy together - even just for a little while.
* OMG Caroline - if Stephan is so F-ing wonderful why don't you marry him. Seriously.
* Shane - totally up to no good. Is he Silas? Does he plan to be Silas in the next couple episodes?
* No Jeremy or Klaus.... I suspect Jeremy was home whittling a pair of matching rocking chairs for he and Matt so the two of them can enjoy evenings on the porch. Klaus was trying to figure out a foolproof plan for getting Caroline to "ride his pony all around the carnival". Hope it works - she could use the distraction!
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Dear Lexi, I luv ya girl, but c'mon: Ripper-in-recovery Stefan obvs can't handle the sight of human blood (made clear in the 1942 bar scene) but per Lexi it's FINE for him to join the WAR and drive an AMBULANCE?!? But not cool for his big bro Damon to tag along because THAT could make Stefan relapse?!? (How many ?!?s am I allowed per post?)

That aside, I'm thrilled that Damon and Elena seem truly and mutually in love (and lust). I wonder who really has more sway over who in this relationship, hm? Elegant ending. Going to black on the lyrics "Just 20 seconds til/ You're no longer mine" Stopped. My. Heart.

For the Winter Wonderland spectacle in Mystic Falls, VA, break out more strapless sundresses, girls! And while mortals ponder the 12 Nights of Christmas, our witches and vampires can ponder the connection between Damon's 12 human sacrifices in '42, Pastor Young's 12 dead councilpeeps, and Ty's 12 unsired hybrids. And The Five...golden rings? And a partridge in a pear tree.
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while everyone is debating about delena and stelena. I would like like to know:

1. Since when was it allowable for Stefan to sleep over at Caroline's.

2. Does Bonnie have like access to black magic now or what?

3. Also, on the topic of delena and stelena. Ok ... I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this but isn't Stefan like a mass murderer? I'm pretty sure he has killed more people then Damon during his ripper days. Not to mention is has serious emotional issues.
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You're a little late to that party. Most of the sane people on here are wondering why dating a crazy-obsessed mass-murderer is better than Damon? And yeah, they're both killers, but Stefan has no control. ALL vampires are murderers... It's part of their supernatural characteristics. You can't impose our morals to a character/creature that's completely paranormal/supernatural... It's like applying human characteristics to a fly, dog, or inanimate object. You can't.
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1. Since Caroline became the new Lexie. I found it amusing that while Delena were shirtless hugging at Salvatore Mansion, Stefan was spending another night at Caroline's house. I dig it. I genuinely like the friendship between those two, minus the pesky she refuses to ever hold him accountable for anything he ever does bit.
2. Shhh, we're not supposed to say the word "black" on this show for so many reasons. It's *Expressions*, and apparently when Prof Shane was tapping that he was tapping into that dark side of her? I don't know. Looks like the girl needs some more help though. Light bulb explosions aren't necessarily new.
3.I have special flame resistant armor and I'm willing to share. Yes, Stefan IS a mass murderer. Yes he probably has killed more people than Damon. No, according to TVD we are not supposed to discuss that. But technically BOTH of them have some crazy emotional issues. Stefan is an obsessive, serial killing addict. Damon is a misogynistic sociopath. It evens itself out. #TeamSalvatore
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Don't get me wrong Damon is also a murderer but I don't think either brother is right for her to be honest. Plus Caroline slut-shaming Elena had to be the best part of this episode because isn't she in cahoots with Klaus? Who is heartless and like the biggest mass murderer of all-time? #Klefan ... they should totally get together. lol
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there was all kind of slut shaming going on this ep! Everybody was slut shaming everybody else.
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Ok hopeful/crackpot theory here. Due to the insane inconsistency of the siring thing in the previous eps (i'm sure someone has listed on here all of the things Damon asked that Elena didn't do). What if in the end Elena was NOT sired to Damon? They only did the blood bag test. Maybe Elena just had a hard time adjusting or maybe it IS a doppelganger thing where it takes time to accept the blood. If siring is so rare, maybe it was just Charlotte it happened too. I don't know, there isn't enough evidence in my mind. Something is fishy.

I refuse (and hope) the writers are not that stupid to leave THAT many inconsistencies. Maybe they have something up their sleeve. Maybe Stefan throws some bookshelves in the next ep because they all figure out Elena is NOT sired???

That would be a great cliffhanger for the winter break, but another great cliffhanger would also be Damon doing the "Right" thing and telling Elena to get lost.

The writers have pulled an amazing switcharoo in the past, maybe they will do it again. It would be kind of awesome, AND make sense. IF so, Plec's done a great job in keeping up the ruse. She has a total right to lie to us (like what I said about the creators of lost). It's her damn show and she wants to surprise and entertain us.

Does anyone else see this as a possibility?
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I would enjoy Elena not being sired too. I read Plec has confirmed that Elena is sired to Damon (she spoke to E! Online about it / at least that's where I remember reading it).

Off on a tangent kind of... have you seen Pretty Little Liars? (If so) The producer of that show had something of a similar reveal of character (concerning "A"). At one point she claimed ***Spoiler Alert just in case "A" would not be the same as in the books, but when it turned out to be Mona (same as books) she said people twisted her words and shouldn't take it so literal.end spoiler***

So, anything's possible? Looking forward to the next episode!
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I guess that maybe there are too many news outlets reporting this, so now I'm doubtful it's a game...I feel like this is LOST all over again. Like yes the ideas were there from the start, but the execution gets changed as the story comes alive. It's an organic thing when writing. But why does JP feel the need to "prove" to us this was planned?

I always feel like the show runners don't owe us anything. Press is important because creating buzz and maintaining ratings is key. But that is for the network. It's their show and story, so they can lie cheat or mislead and not have to apologize for it.

I DO watch PLL (its amazing) but I don't follow that lady on twitter, but I did hear about that incident. I thought it was total genius.

Personally, I am disappointed at the large inconsistencies, and this was only ep 8, so when did this story "break?" they were really this sloppy?

I feel like something is to come because I'm hoping it isn't a major F up. I can get past the little inconsistencies and/or obvious retcon, but this is a major plot point. I don't know....

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Ugh Stefan is literally more annoying that having an itchy foot while wearing shoes.
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Hi Price LOVE your recaps, hysterical, ok I'm not doing well I tell you why, I'm confused, I need help from the fans, ok if Damon has to break up with Elena to break the sire bond, does this mean they have to stay apart forever? Does one of them have to move away to a sire free zone? Or do they just break up and live in the same town together? Can they break up for ....oh for I don't know a month and then get back together and be sire free?
Questions so many questions.
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If they find The Cure, and Elena becomes human again, that would break the sire bond for sure, methinks. Not that I want Elena to become human again. She's more fun this way.
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I thought one of the keys to breaking the sire bond was telling the person to "forget you" and live their life without you. That's sort of like major compulsion... order the person to forget you exist, the sire bond can't work even though the forgetting was a result of the bond. That said, I never heard Damon tell Charlotte to "forget" him, just to go on and live her life.

If Damon told Elena to "live her life how she wanted" and "only do what you want, not what I say," I think it's a pretty easy work-around the bond.
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He did though, Damon did said to Charlotte "you just.. forget about me, you'll never think of me again"
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I don't think so. There isn't an effective way of breaking the sire bond, just dump the person, tell her to live her life an be apart forever so that you no longer interfere with her. But I think that if Damon saw Charlotte again the sire bond would still be working.
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None of it makes sense, they aren't explaining it well. This might be intentional, at least I hope it is, but it seems like I'm not alone in my total confusion of the "rules"
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QueenRina@A lot of happaned to Elena and Stefan after Stefan went with Klaus, I think that was the main reason that strained their relationship and slowly built Elena and Damon's.

coolhandkate@When you say it like that I would have to agree, I still enjoyed what they did but they could have taken a little more time and independently woven into the same story arc.

And yes, Damon wouldn't have hasitated to kill her had he known magic couldn't break the sire bond. Now? Well he has changed. And all thanks to Elena, I guess.

If they pull a plot twists down the line where the audiance and most characters in the show will believe Elena to be permanently dead I'm sure Damon will jump back to his old self, probably seek Katherine and ask her to be his sidekick (or her sidekick?)
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We always assume a direct progression of Damon from evil and brother-hating to what he is now, but with last episode's flashback and the flashback in which he first met Elena I think he has been going back and forth, like Stefan.
Why bother trying to break the sire bond with magic? He could have killed her right away. Or after trying, but instead he left Charlotte counting bricks (and he didn't believe she was going to do so)
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Looking back, I don't really like how they stuffed some exposition into this episode. It seemed very contrived and convenient. Damon and Stefan go on the search to find an end to Elena's sire bond, but just happen upon a tie to the main plot. In the 1940s, Damon is randomly tricked into killing 12 humans by a witch, the same magic number of sacrifices required for whatever Shane is up to. Seems like they could have explored these two things independently. Forcing them to cross just makes everything a little too messy and confusing.

That said, I also think old Damon probably would have killed the vampire sired to him, if he was so through with her.
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That is an excellent last point...Damon has killed people for a lot less.
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I still don't get, if Elena has a feeling for Damon before she became a vampire and heighten when she is a vampire, what about her love and in love to Stefan before she became a vampire? So that love has gone after she became vampire? instead of heighten or even deeper? I thought when I see the series and read the book, her true love for Stefan is real and will never die! So if the just feeling can heighten when she became vampire, don't you think it doesn't make sense?
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“It’s a story of Elena falling in love with Damon to the same extent that she is in love with Stefan” L.J. Smith
Given how the books go, Stefan and Elena fall in love pretty fast in the first book itself(not as fast as the show as Elena has to chase after Stefan) and it is in the rest of the books that Elena falls in love with Damon gradually which is basically what happens on the show. Elena reaches the point where she loves Damon as much as Stefan in Midnight which was the last book she wrote before she was sacked. That was the point after which the triangle had truly begun in the books where she put them both on the same level and season 4 marks the beginning of the triangle being on equal terms despite Elena choosing Stefan.
But all throughout the books that L.J.Smith made a twin flames reference and Elena also called Damon “her best beloved, her soul’s eternal mate” and, Damon compared them to Lancelot/Guinevere, one of the epic romances and even said to Elena, “I’m going to have you in the end, you know” while SE is talking about how they just love each other and always will(they’re basically show SE, static and bland). And very much like that the show has given a lot of endgame cues like 3x19 with Damon being either the best or worst for Elena and the 3x22 flashback to name a few. While Midnight was her last book and we’ll never know for sure who she wanted as endgame she ended the book with Damon confessing his love to Elena while dying, Elena realizing that she loved him and Stefan realizing just how much they loved each other and that he had come between them. I think that says it all.
On the show, season 3 ended with Elena choosing Stefan but also with the foreshadowing of a DE endgame while “It’s always going to be Stefan” turned into “I can’t think about always”. Even though the triangle has just started, SE is being deconstructed while DE is being built up. So one could assume that the producers do view TVD as the story of Elena falling in love with Damon especially since the Julie Plec said that there is still a story left to be said before Elena confesses her love to Damon which they obviously didn’t bother exploring with SE and it was just handed over to them. I think for all these quotes, it’s pretty much obvious that Delena was the endgame of TVD if LJ Smith owned the series and could write it the way she wanted. Unfortunately, she doesn’t own it and the company don’t want that end. But, the bright side of it, it’s that Plec and Co has the right to do whatever they want with the show. They don’t have any kind of compromise to keep the story like the books, so Plec will choose the end she sees ideal and fitting to the characters she developed!

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So we have vampires, withches, werewoves, hybrids, dopplegangers, hunters and ghosts so why not some zombies too ?!
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And I'd like to add, why not demons too? Zombies FTW!
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Well, he have a Damon ! ;)
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Oh, and about Caroline....

I think she has every right to be hating on Elena’s relationship with Damon, considering what Damon did to her. Don’t even try to tell me you wouldn’t be pissed if one of your best friends got with someone who manipulated you, used you, abused you, and treated you like shit. However… if Caroline does end up getting with Klaus, then she loses the right to judge, considering all that Klaus has done to Elena.

Until then, everyone can just go right ahead and hop off of Caroline’s dick.
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But she doesn't though, because Caroline slept with Damon willingly, don't you remember season 1 Caroline when she just saw Damon and was all over him, what he did though was bit her and feed off of her and then compelled her to forget which is WRONG but as others have pointed out, this was S1 Damon with no humanity, don't forget than when Caroline turned she killed someone. And besides Caroline is ALL OVER Klaus (don't get me wrong I love them both separately and as a couple) but don't even pretend that that's acceptable and is only wrong if/when she acts on it.. she likes him despite all of the things he has done which are BY FAR worst than Damon's, and maybe that's why she's all judgey, because she's defending herself somehow? so yeah, she should not judge.. and you know characters grow, Damon certainly did
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But she didn't. She was compelled.
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she didnt sleep with him willingly.
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But it's cool for her to go all googly eyed at Klaus who murdered Elena's aunt?
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First: Caroline doesn’t have to like Damon. He was terrible to her in S1. I get it, but that was no humanity Damon. He was terrible to everyone! But if Jeremy, who got killed by him no less, can get over it and see that he’s not the same person, why can’t Caroline? She’s acting like he’s the same person he was all that time ago and that he’s done nothing during his time in town to earn a little respect. ”Damon is never right, he’s rude and manipulative…” Seriously? Damon is pretty much right about EVERYTHING! Damon would never talk about her in that way, and he’s even showed that he admires things about her. I love Caroline, I thinks she’s an amazing character with a lot of light and beauty but hold the judgment will you?
Second: Stefan told Caroline that Klaus wants to make more Hybrids from Elena’s blood. Caroline didn’t object to that. Which means she would let her friend be drained and go through all that pain and suffering so that Klaus can have want he wants and she could/may be falling in love with him. So Caroline would let her friend go through all that so she can have her ‘old’ friend back? It’s the same with Stefan. Does he really think things will go back to how they used to be with ‘old’ Elena if Klaus is going to be using her blood for his hybrids?
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He also tried to kill Tyler and her father last season.
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I actually like Kim, despite the whole torturing Caroline bit. I think she had every right to stand up to Tyler and Hayley at the beginning of the episode, since the whole point of un-siring is regaining free will. If the dude didn't want to do it, who the hell were they to make him? Yeah yeah, we know Hayley's got an ulterior motive. But Tyler was basically being her bitch and acting like an asshole over it. Then later on, when he "confronted" Kim... am I the only one who thought he was acting like Klaus?!? If he attacked her JUST to save Caroline, okay. That's understandable. But no, he was trying to force her into submission to him (completely hypocritical considering they're supposed to be all about their free will). He threatened to kill her if she didn't obey. If that's not a Klaus move, I don't know what is. Not good, Tyler.

Also, Klaus does Alpha Male in a way that Tyler can't even touch. Tyler needs to be the good guy who sacrificed himself in the church and got upset when his friends used and killed another friend to save Elena (serious character development), not this mini!Klaus douchebag who's an even worse version of his Season 1 self. SorryNotSorry.
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Only 197 comments...How low this show has fallen...But let's talk about this episode, shall we?

1. None of these flashbacks make sense. Damon and Stefan were not in a good place, and it wasn't because of any made up fight Plec will bring up to fix her lack of continuity. Damon’s said he hated Stefan because Kat turned him too, it was only supposed to be Damon. He SAID IT IN AN EPISODE, that's why he hated him all these years. So I don't buy these nice brother acts.
And also, clearly they are just making the "history" up as they go. I still don't understand how Stefan can continually laud the blame for becoming a "ripper" over Damon when Stefan was the one who made Damon turn.

2. Also LOL but how is the sire bond between the vamps so rare when Damon got 2? THEY ALL B SIRING TO THAT HOT PIECE OF ASS!

3. Tyler says the bond didn't make his feelings for Klaus change, he still hated him. Except I remember there was quite a bit of Tyler/Caroline tension over him singing Klaus's praises. He only recognized his feelings were wrong when he bit Caroline, at which point he booked it out of town to break the bond. So I'm calling bullshit on that one.

And Charlotte was shown as taking Damon's every word as near commands. Elena hasn't done that. She has obeyed the stronger sentiments, interpreted the nuances of his words. Like when he told her to get back with Stefan, she knew it wasn't what he really wanted, so she didn't.

IDK Just sloppiness. And given that they said they've been planning this story for a while, they could have avoided all these contradictions....

4. I love Lexi but...she really made no sense in this episode. Stefan wanted to be on the battlefields driving the ambulance....yet he couldn't handle that small amount of blood that he saw/smelled in the bar?? girl, maybe you should keep a closer eye on him. I thought that was the reason Damon was going with him until she stopped him in the end.

5. I’m starting to believe torturing Caroline is some kind of a running joke in the writers’ room.

6. When did Damon apologize to Caroline and Bonnie for terrorizing them in season 1? Why should Stefan apologize to anyone if Damon didn’t and he still got the girl? This hypocrisy.
I can't believe the writers pretend Caroline wasn't raped by Damon. I was ACTUALLY enjoying this episode until Elena was all like OH YOU HAD NO PROBLEM JUMPING IN HIS BED DID YOU. I kind of hate that it's Caroline who's made to look like the asshole here. Elena hooked up with her abusive ex boyfriend and then slut shamed her. Elena is the asshole here, not Caroline.

7. I'm just going to assume that Matt and Jeremy spent the episode fucking at the Gilbert-Donovan house. And when Tyler, Caroline, and Elena were with the hybrids, Hayley and Bonnie were eye-fucking in the car.

8. I think somebody was trolling with the music in this episode. A Twilight song during a sex scene? REALLY NOW?


9. I love when you get serious Price. And thanks for pointing that stuff about women’s lives revolving around men on this show. SOMEONE NEEDED TO SAY IT. Now if anyone noticed the amount of racism going on in the show, that would be good too.


If we take out the plot holes, this was an okay episode...
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Any one think its possible for Damon to be sired to Elena as well?
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It has to do with whose blood is in your system when you turn. That said, anything's possible at this point.
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1st off, will answer ur questions:
a) am doing VERY well thank you!! the last epi was probably my favourite of the season so far. more on my reasons for feeling that way l8r.
b) i think professor shane is silas, who was awakened by the witch who flaked on damon, and i think he wants to raise an army of the dead, who will somehow be stronger and more powerful than vampires, werewolves and hybrids, to rid the world of them, and i think he plans to use them to carry thru with his vendetta against the bennett witches, who i'm sure we'll find out are distantly related to the witch in new orleans. dunno y, but it made sense in my head. lol.
c) i kinda want her to remain single as kind of a representation of intentional single woman-hood on the show, given that all the teenagers r obsessed with relationships, lol.
d) never been, but would love to go to new orleans at some point given all the cool things i've heard.

elena was greatly changed by her parents passing away in that she went from this social, typically adventurous, spunky, happy girl to this girl who was a little reserved and sad. and obviously, when some1 who she thought she'd never have to lose came into her life, it must've seemed like she'd won the lottery in terms or paramours. but she was still weighed down by the loss of her parents, and her personality was still a little stunted by the entire experience. but as caroline stated in the last episode, vampirism magnifies all of ur personality traits, and makes u more of who u r. and in elena's case, atleast in my opinion, that is exactly what is happening. and i like the way it's happening :D
caroline, as well, as some others have stated, hasn't had a LOT of interactions with elena since she turned, so it makes sense that when they did spend time together again, their dynamic pre-vampirism would remain unchanged.
bonnie's usually been very chilled out with who's hooking up with who, and it was really cool to see her becoming slightly more accustomed to the rampant vampirism, werewolf-ism (?), hybrids and etc in MF.
i have always found stefan annoying, so will skip him.
damon in this episode was a testament to how much a change love can bring abt in some1 who has never had it.
i felt really bad for charlotte. that's just really sad...
kim was cool. and frankly, as much as i liked tyler's finally manning up in this ep, i really wish he wouldn't trust hayley so easily.
but i still like hayley more and more as time goes on, and correlationally find shane more suspect.
neway, looking forward to the next ep, and yet really sad that tvd's abt to have it's midseason finale... :( :'(
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i am completely on board with ur shane plot
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I have changed my mind about Caroline being judgy. Let her have at it for a while, let everyone - viewers and every other character on the show get really sick of it. Then let her have a 'good, deep' conversation with Elena, where she says something along the lines of "You have to understand that there are reasons why I don't like this guy, but you are my friend, I can't decide who you're with and if you love him and want to be with him, then I'll be happy for you". Then she can be nice Season 2 Caroline that we all love, and then when Klaroline inevitably happens, Elena can't really be a bitch about it, without sounding like a total hypocrite and without audiences and characters alike going "judging is bad!", you said so yourself. Many, many, many times.
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Lol... That does sound fun! Also, I think because Caroline is sounding so annoying atm, no one's actually giving her credit for the fact that she actually is right. On both Elena and Damon and Bonnie and P Shane. She was the one who figured out the sire bond because she realized something was not right. She thinks P Shane is shady which he is. So yeah... Annoying maybe, but she does also happen to be right! No?
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More Caroline torture! So yay! :D But Daddy did it the best.
This is the best episode of the season so far, hands down. Awww our Tyler grew up and now he'll be leading a pack. *sniff* OMG Bonnie was treated right in this episode. Shocker! I too didn't understand why Damon should not join the army. I don't get why that'd be a bad thing for Stefan. Are they saying Damon could be more harmful to Stefan than WW2 could ever be? I have to say, I was pretty bitchy about this whole Elena/Damon sire bond thingy, but I like what they're doing with it...for now.

- No, how YOU doin'? ;)
- He is boring.
- I can't believe she is still a sheriff.
- I've been to! I don't remember...
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This is possibly spoilery speculation, so if you don't want anything to think about that might mess stuff up later on (IF I'm right, which is usually a big IF) there were several things that lined up just a bit TOO nicely in this episode. I've been pretty sure for a while now that Shane actually is this Silas witch he keeps talking about. Now we know he's teaching Boonie "Expression" magic, which the witch lady in New Orleans says is the super deep dark magic that requires things like human sacrifices to power. Twelve human sacrifices, in particular, for at least one type of working. So, what kind of power would 12 Hybrid sacrifices bring? I'm starting to think that the thing the Hunter's Mark map leads to is ALSO something that Silas will need to regain his power. So, he's trying to get one of the Hunter's Mark maps to find whatever it is, and is teaching Bonnie "Expression" magic so that once he finds it, they can use the 12 Hybrids as sacrifices to give her enough power to get the thing and use it to restore Shane/Silas to his full strength.
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And also, if they get jeremy to kill the 12 hybrids the hunters mark map will grow bigger.
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Good point!
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Ok, so I hope I don't get a lot of hate for this, but I really have not liked Elena. Like ever. Ok, maybe the very first two episodes, but since then she has really really gotten on my nerves. However, as with Caroline (except in these past two eps which I will explain later) becoming a vampire seems to make really annoying girls become much more tolerable - even likable! I have really liked Elena's character development since she became a vampire. At first she was her whiney old self, but lately she is expressing her opinions, making tough decisions and just being overall a cooler character.
Caroline on the other hand is getting on my nerves for the first time since she turned. She has been my favorite lady character for a while now, but if she does not stop being so bitchy and judgmental soon I may have to start disliking her again.
Anyway, great review, I totally agree this was an awesome episode, definitely one of the better ones so far this season. Looking forward to more Delena, since that is totally my ship :)
P.S. - does the professor guy (Shane?) really creep anyone else out? I feel like he is a pedophile in disguise or something... just my humble opinion of course.
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Don't worry, we all dislike Elena! She's getting better though (IMO)!
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It's a lot like life, this play between the sheets, with you on top, and me underneath. Forget all about equality.
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-please please dont let elena revert 2 her *original team stefan factory settings* shes sooo much better with damon. liked her so much in this ep. she was smiling, laughing, cracking jokes, having fun, not 2 mention great sex. in short, she wasnt the boring,whiny, judgy version shes with stefan. she was happy with stefan but not this carefree, blissful "dont care if i have a 100 problems plaguing me" happy and vamp elena was miserable with stefan. she even got 2 kick ass, use her brains n save caroline!
-still hate the sire bond thingy. the only good thing i can say about it is that now elena will have 2 fight 2 keep damon n prove it 2 him that she really does love him. damon looked defeated in the end n elena does want damon. there was alot of desperation in her voice when she said "plz dont do this to me damon". personally i think all the sire bond n her vampireness did was 2 make her not ignore her feelings 4 damon anymore. i think stefan just won over damon over a small margin in season 3 finale n cuz elena was able 2 repress her feelings 4 damon as a human cuz of her loyalty n love 4 stefan n her annoying moral compass!
-still laughing over the whole charlotte counting the bricks stuff. since siring is 1 in a million chance, how come damon has been able 2 sire 2 chicks?
-12 human souls, 12 council members, 12 hybrids.......... definitely seeing a pattern here.
-hate the term "expression"
- plz make caroline stop judging! put her with klaus already so she can stop with her judginess. i still dont think damon raped her though. ask any rape victim n u certainly DONT enjoy the sex when u r raped n caroline liked it. it was more like "4get i have fangs n drink blood" he definitely abused her though when he treated her as his blood bag! if damon raped caroline then katherine definitely raped stefan when she compelled him "2 go bk 2 the way things were" when he woke up scared with bite marks all over him in the 1864 flashbk scene. ripper stefan did the same with the girls with the exception that the girls ended up dead mostly. n caroline saying" atleast ripper stefan wasnt a manslut" n "damon took advantage of u" went too far. i mean lyk seriously? mass muder is better than being a man slut n hasnt caroline seen how much damon loves elena 2 never take advantage of her? plus damon saved her life like 3 times: when he gave her his blood at the end of s1 which ended her being a vamp, 4rm the werewolves when they kidnapped her n 4rm klaus sacrifical ceremony(which led 2 him being bitten). fine he did it 4 elena but he did save her! i think i had pretty grateful 2 the person who saved me no matter 4 who he did it 4!
- so prefer single, angsty stefan! still wish he would stop with his judginess though. i wouldnt call either damon or stefan a better bro but stefan does tend 2 underestimate damon n damon does know his lil bro better than stefan knows damon like when stefan was abt 2 throw elena over the wickery bridge, damon went 2 klaus n klaus said stefan wudnt do it n the n damon said: "maybe not but i know my brother better than u do so if he says blink, i suggest u blink!" while stefan is all like "selflessness isnt exactly 1 of ur traits" oh well u will be surprised stefan! plus stefan can go on a murder spree n still judge damon 4 killing 12 ppl. in season 1 he was basically like: i am the good bro while damon is bad n has lost his humanity. then he was lyk 2 elena: oh sry, did i mention i am a bloodaholic ripper who has killed 1000s of ppl? plus i also forcibly turned my bro in2 a vamp. P.S i also killed my dad! while damons pretty straightforward abt everything. " i am not the good guy remember? i am the selfish 1. i do what i want.i get what i want.i lie 2 my bro, i fall in love with his girl. i dont do the right thing but i have 2 do right by u" that just killed me! maybe thats why i love damon so much.
rant over 4 now!




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I never thought about it but it's true that Damon knows his brother better than the other way around, Stefan seems stuck in season 1 as much as Caroline these days. Everyone underestimates poor Damon.
You say Stefan won over a small margin, well a stupid margin I would say, it was because he met him first... I don't call it a reason, I call it an excuse.
The "atleast ripper stefan wasnt a manslut" really REALLY pissed me off.
So basically I agree with your comments
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