The Veronica Mars Season 1 Dossier: Episodes 17-22

I may not know anything about anything, but at least now I know who killed Lilly Kane!! Holy moly, what a surprising and satisfying reveal!

We'll get to that in a second, but first let me put on a backwards Kangol hat, flip a chair around and rap with y'all. Because we need to talk. The first season of Veronica Mars is terrific. Duh/obvs. You guys were right, what a great show. BUT. Even child prodigies wet the bed every now and again, you know? And I bet Michael Jordan probably occasionally broke wind while making game-winning slam dunks. (BTW what is basketball?) And there's a chance Stephen King wrote a bad book at least once. (I'll never know, I can't read.) What I'm trying to say is, Season 1 of Veronica Mars had some problems, especially toward the end, and especially with regard to its treatment of sexual issues. I don't know, obviously this is my personal reaction, but there's a fine line between edgy and irresponsible and I'm afraid this show crossed the line in two big ways before its ultimately triumphant finale. Because it WAS a good finale! Anyway, we'll chat more about it when we get there, but I just wanted to warn you guys that I MIIIIIGHT be ranting later. Maybe. We'll see. Depends on how much candy I'll be eating in next few minutes.

All right, enough yammering. Let's close out the Season 1 dossier!



Season 1, Episode 17: "Kanes and Abel's"


Case of the week: After a Tracy Flick-ish overachiever was repeatedly pranked and/or sexually harassed via phony sex ads with her image in them, Veronica agreed to help track down whoever was responsible. While it SEEMED like it was the handiwork of her aggressively brokenhearted ex (guest-star Zachery Ty Bryan in his second appearance), suspicion instead turned to aspiring valedictorian Leonard Wu... It turned out they were both in the running for a full-ride scholarship offered by the Kane family and the pranks were meant to throw the girl off her game. But in the end it wasn't Leonard who was behind it, but his father. Leonard then had to forfeit the scholarship, earning him at the very least Veronica's respect. (I'd want that too!)

The plot thickens: After Veronica successfully tracked down Abel Koontz's daughter and convinced her to go into hiding and and provide pertinent documents that might exonerate her father, Keith FINALLY agreed to collaborate with Veronica on the Lilly Kane case! In addition to letting her pore through his secret trove of evidence, he revealed a major clue: Shortly after Lilly's murder, the Kanes hastily laundered Duncan's soccer uniform. Adding that to Logan's admission that Duncan had once strangled him during an epileptic seizure, it was starting to look like Duncan was now that #1 suspect!

Don't I know you from somewhere?

Hey it's The State's Ken Marino! His character Vincent Vanlowe appeared only once this season, but it seemed like he and Keith went way back (as nemeses). I'm guessing he'll be back though? He was too fun to just use once. But the main thing is, Marino is now one more name we can cross off the Future Party Down Cast list. (I'm still anxiously awaiting a Lizzy Caplan appearance—don't tell me if she appears or not!)

Episode verdict: I was so relieved that this episode solved one of my biggest annoyances of the show so far—Keith's reluctance to involve Veronica. Honestly if he had just included her from the get-go he probably wouldn't have lost his job in the first place. Just sayin'! I'm not sure I cared too much about Sabrina's plight, except that I got a vague feeling that the show was making light of her habitual emotional abuse and sexual harassment. In retrospect it was definitely a hint of things to come.



Season 1, Episode 18: "Weapons of Class Destruction"


Case of the week: After a series of fire alarms began to disrupt the school with suspicious frequency, Veronica learned that someone had been calling in bomb threats. The two obvious culprits were camo-wearing outcasts, but when Veronica tailed the more likely of the two, she discovered that he was actually an undercover FBI agent looking to bust the second outcast. When Veronica agreed to assist the FBI agent, she learned that the second guy wasn't responsible for the threats and was instead being framed by a nerdy kid who'd been bullied by the guy in the past. In the end Veronica managed to both exonerate the wrongly accused outcast (who, it should be noted, was one of the few students to stand up for Veronica shortly after her '09er ostracism), and also reveal the undercover FBI agent as an evidence-planting fraud. It was a bittersweet victory, however, as a front-page story in the school newspaper got their journalism teacher fired and demonstrated the limits of their supposed freedom of speech.

Oh, and this happened:

That's right, Veronica and Logannnnn!!! While she was chatting on the phone with him, the undercover FBI agent took Veronica 'hostage' (in a total fake-out) and Logan then swooped in to save her, earning him a surprise, but well-earned kiss. Thus completed the Logan redemption arc that had begun a few episodes earlier. The whole thing was pretty sudden, but I guess that was the point!

The plot thickens: Continuing the new thread that Duncan might have been the murderer, word got back to him that Veronica had a file on him and he did NOT take it well. Typical murderer reaction. Anyway, this resulted in him being kinda mean to his girlfriend Meg, then draining his bank account and going on the lam! The cute twist was that earlier Veronica had inadvertently told him the best ways to go off the grid, and he followed her advice to a T. Oh, Veronica.

Oh, and also Keith Mars started dating Wallace's mom, thus giving Wallace slightly more purpose on the show. Slightly.

Don't I know you from somewhere?

So, call me an idiot, but I hadn't even noticed that Sydney Tamiia Poitier hadn't been in the opening credits since Episode 8! Nope, it wasn't until her character was straight-up replaced by Joey Lauren Adams here that it occurred to me she'd been given the boot. Which was fine, because she was kind of irrelevant, but it's still weird that in Neptune permanent maternity leave is a thing? The character never comes back, right? Anyway, nice guest appearance, Chasing Amy's Joey Lauren Adams!

Sigh. Where have you gone, Jonathan Taylor Thomas? It is my Christmas wish that JTT have a triumphant comeback sometime soon. Unless he hated acting the whole time and now he's feeling better about life, in which case, congratulations guy! But still, it was fun seeing him here even though his character was an awful person.

The former bullying victim in this episode was played by True Blood's Michael "Rev. Newlin" McMillian! I don't know, I was excited. And yes, I still watch True Blood, I will never not.

Episode verdict: Obviously the most notable aspect of this episode was the Logan-Veronica hookup. Again, it seemed really sudden, but in the sense that they are both mercurial teenagers it seemed right, particularly when they didn't know how to handle themselves afterward. Logan had come a long way since his bum-fight days, but I still wonder if Veronica was too easily overlooking the fact that he'd basically been the source of most of her social torment over the preceding year? Oh well, I guess forgiving and forgetting is a thing that comes easier to her than to me.



Season 1, Episode 19: "Hot Dogs"


Case of the week: In a plotline especially unsettling to dog-lovers, one of Veronica's classmates Mandy got her dog STOLEN and possibly KILLED! It turned out to be the most recent in a string of similar dog thefts in the '09er community and only those owners who offered substantial rewards ever saw their dogs again. Veronica eventually deduced that the dastardly villains behind this scheme were actually the employees at a local dog shelter. Fortunately for Mandy, the dog had not been killed and was instead sold to a new owner and they were reunited in no time. Meanwhile, Veronica also looked into the boyfriend of Logan's sister, a potentially abusive scumbag movie producer who'd been attempting to extort money from the Echolls family. In a highly satisfying turn of events, a newly reformed Aaron Echolls turned the tables on the dude and beat him up SO BAD. Seriously, it reminded me of the fight scene from They Live. It just went on and on! VERY satisfying.

The plot thickens: The big twist this week was that Weevil got arrested for breaking into Lilly's bedroom! He lied to Veronica about what he was after, but it turned out he was trying to recover a pink spy pen in which Lilly used to hide notes. Whatchu up to, Weevil?? Meanwhile Veronica and Logan took the next step in their relationship and she broke things off with Deputy Leo in what had to be one of the most mature and level-headed breakup scenes in TV history. In fact, it went so well that Leo STILL helped Veronica deal with the dog-nappers. Also, in a sadly ironic moment, Keith sent in a secret DNA paternity test. Would he ALSO shred his results at 3am near a sleeping family member? We'll see!

Episode verdict: This was a real good episode, just chock-a-block with entertaining moments. Not only were things starting to get pretty tense in Veronica's life, some of the scenes between the Echollses were downright haunting. Obviously that family had some cycle-of-violence stuff they still needed to work out, but I enjoyed watching Aaron Echolls trying and failing to reach out to his son. Add to that the amazing beatdown scene that concluded with Logan finding his father beating another man with his belt, and this thing was just pathos city. So good.



Season 1, Episode 20: "M.A.D."


Case of the week: A truly awful guy named Tad blackmailed his girlfriend Carmen into not breaking up with him, which is always a good idea and always works. If she DID break up with him, he'd forward to the an entire school a cell phone video he'd shot of Carmen doing unspeakable things with a Popsicle in a jacuzzi, however that works. Deciding that the best way to handle this dude was via what Veronica termed "mutually assured destruction," they teamed up to fabricate a scandal: They would smear Tad as a—gasp!—homosexual and use Don't Ask Don't Tell to get him preemptively kicked out of the military academy he'd be attending in the fall. Here's the very believable website that Veronica hired Mac to put together:

Tad ultimately sent the video anyway, but Carmen had the decency to decline to smear him back (despite Veronica's protests). After Veronica tied him nude to a flagpole, she asked him where he got the drugs he used to coerce Carmen into making that Popsicle video in the first place, and he dropped a bombshell: Logan supplied the date-rape drugs. Oh, and it all happened the same night as Veronica's rape. So, um. Uh-oh.

The plot thickens: Aside from the GHB revelation at episode's end, a few more strands came back into play. First was the issue of Duncan: Still on the lam, but now his parents were offering a huge reward for his safe return and Keith seemed pretty confident they'd be cashing in. Meanwhile Wallace's mom took the fall for the bugged plant that Veronica got Wallace to deliver to Clarence Wiedman's office (really hate that guy). Oh, and Veronica happened to notice a classified ad in which it became clear that Keith Mars was trying to serve Lianne Mars divorce papers. Just bad times all around.

Don't I know you from somewhere?

He didn't get any closeups in this episode, but that middle kid is Kyle Gallner, who has now appeared in 85 percent of all TV shows and movies. He was good in Jennifer's Body and Big Love and, um, A Nightmare on Elm Street? Anyway, yup.

Episode verdict: Oof. I am STILL mad about this episode. Are you effing kidding me with this homophobic B.S.? I realize this was 2005 which is definitely OLDEN TIMES, but to have our heroine use homosexuality as a weapon against someone? To "ruin" a reputation and get him kicked out of school? It's bad enough that this high school's only openly gay character (if five lines of dialogue constitute a character) was used as a sassy, drug-dealing STORY DEVICE who actively allowed himself to be a part of this supposed smear-job. But THEN a protagonist we love, trust, and know to be a champion of outsiders decided that BEING GAY is just as reputation-ruining if not worse than being an abusive creep who drugs his girlfriend and sends a sex video to her classmates. Um, THERE is your smear, Veronica Mars. But you chose to paint him as gay instead? Ugh. Honestly, this was irresponsible writing and I hope credited writers Phil Klemmer and John Enbom are embarrassed about it in 2012. [End Rant #1.]



Season 1, Episode 21: "A Trip to the Dentist"


The plot thickens: First off, Keith found Duncan in Cuba and brought him back to Neptune. After that cold open, however, this penultimate episode of Season 1 was ALL about Veronica's date rape. You know, the sex crime we'd learned about in the pilot but that had fallen by the wayside for most of the season. Following up on the revelation in the previous episode that Logan had been the supplier of GHB, Veronica decided to (a) put her relationship with Logan on the back burner, and (b) solve this crime once and for all! So then he episode turned into a cavalcade of former guest-stars, including Sam Huntington, Leighton Meester, and Jonathan Bennett, who all returned to give Veronica their faulty recollections of that fateful party. For a while it looked like Dick Casablancas was definitely the one most likely to have drugged and date raped her, but as Veronica narrowed down the possibilities of what happened that night, we eventually came to the real solution: Both Veronica and Duncan had been separately and accidentally drugged and they made sweet, sweet love that night. Cool?

When Veronica confronted Duncan about this revelation, he admitted he'd left Veronica to wake up alone because he was so ashamed for having slept with HIS SISTER. That's right, we got a definite confirmation that the Kanes believed Veronica to be their kin. Meanwhile Keith was off in Las Vegas hiring hookers except PSYCH! He just needed this one hooker to admit she was with Abel Koontz the night he supposedly killed Lilly. Fortunately she did and the case against Abel Koontz got REAAALL shaky all of the sudden.

Another big event was that Logan and Veronica finally went public with their relationship in the most humiliating way possible: An off-date surprise birthday party that Aaron Echolls threw to win over his son. In a pretty touching moment Logan immediately put all his snippy, judgmental classmates in their places by instructing them to get over it or get out. But then, when he and Veronica sneaked off to the pool house for some shirtless-hugging action, Veronica inadvertently discovered a Sliver-style hidden camera set-up! Ugh, those creepy Echollses.

Oh, and Veronica's useless mother showed up. 'Sup, lady!

Episode verdict: Guys, look. Entertaining episode. Solid reveal. APPALLING message. How convenient that something as serious and horrifying as rape has now been downgraded to a serendipitous accident with a good guy! I assure you all I'm not some uptight, politically correct harpy. But this show can be straight-up tone deaf sometimes. Whether it's taking a bold stance in favor of cults, trafficking in homophobia, or undermining years of sexual assault awareness, Veronica Mars has sought to be gritty and/or surprising but has now at least three times wound up in Reprehensibletown. Even though Logan was now a good guy, he was STILL the jackass responsible for the drugging, but Veronica barely cared and they were making out immediately. Regardless of Duncan having been drugged, Veronica could not give consent to him any more than she could to the dudes who were playing puppet-girl with her during the party. Regardless of the retroactive comfort of knowing that she'd lost her virginity to someone she liked, Veronica DID NOT REMEMBER IT and had spent the greater part of the year believing she'd been raped by a stranger. That kind of psychological trauma goes away immediately? I hate to say it, but I'm kinda mad at Veronica Mars right now. The season finale will have to be REALLY good to make up for it...



Season 1, Episode 22: "Leave It to Beaver"


And it was! Man, was it good. The first half of the episode layered twist upon twist upon misdirection upon red herring: First Duncan's parents informed him that they'd orchestrated a cover-up because HE was the one who'd killed Lilly. He had been found cradling his dead sister's body, and his illness made a violent blackout more plausible. But! Then Beaver told Veronica that Logan's alibi was in question since he'd raced back from Mexico to see her just prior to her death. In Veronica's mind, the only thing standing between Logan and a LOT of jail time was the love letter he claimed he'd written, so she then infiltrated Lilly Kane's house in this getup:

Duncan caught her in the act of snooping around Lilly's bedroom, but he was heartened when Veronica told him that (a) she didn't believe he'd killed Lilly, and also (b) they weren't brother and sister. (Keith had actually opened HIS test results.) So then they teamed up to discover what Lilly was hiding in her air conditioning vent: miniDV tapes she'd stolen from Aaron Echolls because WHOA: They'd been having a sexy affair and he'd taped it on his Sliver cam. So, um, that's motive and it was pretty clear that Aaron Echolls was our guy.

What followed was about twenty minutes of pretty terrifying cat-and-mouse chase. Starting with Aaron sneaking into Veronica's backseat, her intentionally crashing the car and attempting to take shelter at a secluded house only to have Aaron attack and incapacitate the homeowner. Seriously, the whole thing played out like a horror film! Finally Keith realized Veronica was in trouble and came looking for her, and suddenly he and Aaron were having one of the more brutal fist fights I'd ever seen on television while Veronica was trapped in a gasoline-soaked refrigerator. And here's how loathsome Aaron was: Even after Keith more or less subdued him, his final gesture was to throw his lighter at the refrigerator and set it on fire! That's right, just another casual murder. Keith ended up saving Veronica and being caught on fire in the process. She put him out and they scrambled into the street for help and before we knew it Aaron was being carted off in an ambulance and Charles Kane was shouting at him for having murdered his daughter except that Charles Kane then got arrested ALSO, for obstruction of justice, and it was all VERY satisfying.

One major :( for this episode: Keith had broken up with Wallace's mom so that he could make another go of it with Veronica's mom. Except then Veronica discovered she'd been drinking again and called her out on it. And then Veronica's mom took off, but not before stealing $50,000. So, cool lady! On the bright side, Wallace's mom still came to the hospital to see Keith, so all was not lost there.

Then two more excellent moments: After a long day of solving a life-defining crime, Veronica had a dream where she and Lilly were floating on a swimming pool in bikinis and it seemed like closure had finally arrived. Really touching. But THEN, in what would amount to the most simultaneously low-key and powerful TV cliffhanger I've maybe ever seen, there was a knock on the door and Veronica answered with a smile. "I was hoping it would be you," she said as the picture faded to black.

Aw! Was it Logan, the guy Veronica had incorrectly pinned as a murderer for most of the episode, or was it Duncan, who was now fair game for a romantic rekindling? Or maybe just Wallace. Poor, gentle Wallace. I don't know, but I was just so amazed that I cared so much about such a tiny moment.

Episode verdict: Stellar. I couldn't even remember why I was mad before because now I was so dizzy with excitement. Just a perfect hour of television and a fantastic end to the season. I still can't believe how well they pulled off the mystery. I did NOT see Aaron Echolls as the killer, but in retrospect it makes sense to pin it on a non-regular. There's a bit of a pattern on this show of loopholes that keep the villains around. For instance YES the Kanes obstructed justice and ruined the Mars' lives, but it was all a misunderstanding! Same with the "accidental" GHB drugging in the previous episode. I'm not sure misunderstandings, coincidence, and serendipity would hold up as excuses in a court of law, so in that sense these explanations were slightly weird. But still, all I ask is that a TV show surprise me and Veronica Mars certainly did. Well played.


I'm a bit bummed about some stuff that happened toward the end of Season 1 because otherwise this show's freshman year was as close to perfect as a season of TV gets. Frankly I'm relieved to see the main storyline wrapped up as succinctly as it was (well, except for the Mrs. Echolls stuff), and aside from the romantic cliffhanger, I appreciated that no big Season 2 storyline was set up in the finale. It's kind of nice to get a breather, you know? VERY excited to see what happens next. Thanks to all of you who recommended this show to me, I definitely owe you one.


QUESTIONS:

... Did YOU predict Aaron was the killer?

... Without spoiling who it ended up being, who did you originally think was at Veronica's door?

... Is Lianne the worst? She's the worst, right?

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I really don't think that the episode was implying that Veronica herself found being gay a reputation-ruiner. What they were saying, though, is that a) the guy took a lot of pride in being "manly", and had previously bullied gay kids, which meant that being falsely outed would hurt him personally, and b) because of DADT, the military would most likely kick him out if they thought he was gay, which would ruin his future. Since Carmen's big worry was that the video would haunt her forever (aka ruin her future), that seems nicely eye-for-an-eye. I definitely agree on the issue with the only gay kid being a plot device, though, but to be fair, only a very few shows have gotten past that point even now, eight years later
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I think that the fact that guy was a jackass who prided most on being 'manly' went into Veronica's train of thoughts. It shouldn't be that bothersome for you. Though I do agree that her rape issue was kinda sidelined by making the 'rapist' turn out to be Duncan.

But wow, that was a very satisfying conclusion. I did not predict the killer, but it all makes sense! This is an awesome show. I burned through the whole season in just a couple of days. That car chase and the following scene was one of the most horrifying scenes I've ever seen. It was done so well. Kristen Bell is a fantastic actress and a great individual. I just wanna marry her now!
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The entire finale felt contrived and shoe-horned. Veronica is supposedly very smart, but she jumps to wrong conclusions incredibly quickly without any evidence. Duncan has fits? He must have been the killer! A witness who bears no love for her tells her Logan didn't have an alibi after all? He must have been the killer! There's a camera in the pool house? It must be Logan's! Logan was handing out GHB at the party? He must have raped me! Lily was wearing her pep squad uniform? It MUST have been the day of the murder. Not like pep squad wore their uniforms for anything other than that one car wash... Then she doesn't call the police to inform them about Aaron as a suspect, nor does she ask for protective custody. No, she leaves the party without checking her backseat.

Totally saw Veronica's mom betraying their trust again-from episode 1. Also totally knew Veronica and Duncan weren't brother and sister.



One of my biggest gripes with the series is how Veronica portrays herself as an outcast, hated and despised by the student body at large. It never seemed that way. "Do you know what they say about you, Veronica?" I sure don't.



I also never really cared about who killed Lilly Kane. I didn't feel invested in the story.
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1. I thought it was Aaron after he beat that man half to death.

2. I hoped it was Logan. I don't like Duncan much at all. I knew that the network bigots said no to Wallace and Veronica getting together.

3. She is bad but she didn't frame someone for murder allowing the murderer of her child to go free. She didn't deliberately hurt the the child she suspected was her husband's love child. She didn't sleep with her child's boyfriend, and kill him.



She didn't threaten to frame the jerk with being gay because being gay is bad - but because it was something he feared. She should have simply outed him as jerk that threatens women. He had no business in our military.



Like the others have said the rape story is not over.
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S01E18 - Theo Rossi!!!
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1. Not at all. I watched the first series in one go so didn't spend much time trying to figure out who the killer was. I thought the reveal was great and made total sense while still being a surprise. I do remember vaguely thinking Logan did it in the Pilot, though!



2. I hoped it was Logan, I thought it was Duncan.



3. As far as shitty parents go she's certainly up there, considering the competition she has for shittiest parent is pretty tough in Neptune.



@ProphecyGirl I disagree. I think the show actually gets worse when it comes to rape. The storyline in series 3 is appalling, badly written and the message is so offensive it really irritated me.
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In time you will realize that the show takes a much, much better stance on rape
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Agreed.
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You need to watch season 2 and 3 like ASAP!!!!!!!!! And report back like next week!!!!! or ASAP!!!! But seriously do it!!!!
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1. No. He was just a violent asshole until the moment Veronica saw the tapes.



2. I came to VM as a shipper and I had no idea who it would be, only who I wanted it to be. Not who it was, sadly :)



3. Yes, she is. I guess Veronica needed to have one lousy, morally compromised parental figure so she could truly appreciate the yuck of Neptune.



Its really interesting reading a newbie's perspective on something that is a fabulous old friend that I've devoted ridiculous hours of thought to - I write VM fanfic. You've completely missed my favourite dynamic in the show, but then, a lot of people did; but you've also underlined something I think the Logan-mania managed to bury so very deeply - just how troubling the way Veronica's rape was dealt with (or not dealt with.) I'm about to tumblr that part of your review, because - yup, rape is rape and lack of consent is rape and it doesn't matter who your rapist is, you were still raped.
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I imagine you are going to watch Season 2 and 3, so when you finish watching them you will probably have a very different opinion on the approach that Veronica Mars took on subjects like Rape and Homosexuality.



Regarding your questions (I've watched VM for the first time almost 3 years ago):



1 - I think I was really mislead to think it was someone from the Kane family, but I'm not sure who I really thought was the killer.



2 - If memory doesn't fail me, I thought it was Duncan.



3 - She kind of is, at least when compared to Keith.
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1. I sure as hell didn't predict Aaron as the killer, but then again, I also found out it was him by accident before I saw the finale. For the record, the finale still shocked me, because I never thought it would go down like that.

2. I think my first thought was Wallace, since it just seemed natural for her to need to see the next closest friend she had after Lily.

3. Lianne is pretty damn awful, but I can't say the worst. Aaron takes the prize. Worst parent, EVER.



On a side note, I understand where you're coming from with the rape and homosexuality issues, but the way VM did it was one of many scenarios that could have played out. Like others have said, Veronica used the threat of homophobia against Tad because that was what would be the most damaging to him. High school kids are assholes in this school, and when half of the 09er males were probably doing things similar to what Tad did to Carmen, then making it known for what he really did would have probably damaged his rep only somewhat. Painting him as a homosexual would have caused a hell of a lot more damage, since his rep was pretty important to him, and his 09er buddies would disown him, and it would definitely affect his future in the military. This wasn't Veronica voicing her opinion, but rather the collective fear of probably every male in that school being played out before their eyes. She took something that Tad feared most and used it against him. Yes, those Neptune High kids are idiots for thinking that being labeled as gay = the end of the world, but that was the mindset then for a lot of them, and it (sadly) still is today in many schools.

On the subject of Veronica's assault- first of all, like others said, the story has not finished. The way she handled Logan's involvement may have seemed odd at first, but it made sense. She had been thinking about that night for the past year. She grew into a new person, saw the world in a different way because of the collective events after Lily's death. Her old self may have seen the world in a very black and white view, but the person she became after Lily's death understood that it isn't just about labeling someone as 'bad/evil'. Nearly every one at that party played a part in what happened to Veronica, but she chose to outweigh the good of most of those people from the really bad. She saw redeeming qualities in Logan, and she chose to go with it. Yes, Logan was a complete asshole for drugging Duncan, and the action itself was reprehensible and so morally wrong, but his intention was never to hurt (and I'm not excusing his actions in any way). Veronica had a history with Logan, she knew the kind of person he was before Lily died, and she accepted him back then. She saw Logan had been on a path to becoming the person that she once knew, so she made a choice to believe in the better side of him, and associate the actions taken on the night of her assault were from another time and place, when Logan was not the same person. I am definitely no expert in this, but I believe that when Veronica forgave Logan for what he did, she was trying to make peace of what happened, and put the event behind her, because she wanted to move forward. She couldn't change the past, and I think, to some degree, she understood that and believed that forgiving Logan would help her move past it. Clearly, not everyone agrees with what she did, but to say the message is appalling, well, I don't agree. Every individual who experiences an assault, of any kind, has to find a way of dealing with it afterwards. This was Veronica's way, and I think it's equally deserving of respect, because it was HER CHOICE. She had the power to decide what she wanted to do, and she made that decision.

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1. NO! until the end I didn't know who did it. I loved this show and I had by VM marathon a couple years back. Season 2 was as good if not better, you will never guessed WHO did it!

2. Logan all the way, I'm still on his team, in each show I see him I keep calling him Logan lol

3. I'm not even getting how she was such a "catch" some times ago :-0

Enjoy the show !
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i watched this show years ago and decided to watch it all over again .. right as you started the recap. still think it is one of the best shows .. and so MANY guest-stars !



Never saw aaron as the killer , i think it is it Logan at the door. (pls watch S2 asap)

Lianne ? Keith and Veronica are private investigators ... track the b**** and get yo money back !

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I was a Logan fan almost from the start so I really wanted it to be him, but with Veronica and Duncan and their "whatever they have" going on it was a hard one to call. Though just to be clear, and be one of those annoying correct you ppl, it was the PCHers who tied the Tad guy to the flag pole just like they did to Wallace back in the Pilot if Im not mistaken, Carmen was a girl from their area and they didnt like him disrespecting her like that. All in all I cant tell you how happy I am that someone else has discovered the awesomeness the is Veronica Mars, I miss it soo much, LoVe wil forever be one of my all time favourite tv couples
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If you loved season one's plot lines and ending, you'll love season two it was mind-blowingly ridiculously awesome.
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I didn't predict it at all!! He wasn't even in the first few episodes!!
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I was hoping Logan was at the door but I thought Duncan was there. But who do you think Veronica wanted it to be?



Price are you reviewing season 2??? I hope you are!!
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Oh wow, I originally never saw Mr. Echolls coming but I wasn't satisfied by it. In fact, the S1 finale is one of my least favorite episodes. Thankfully, the S2 finale makes up for it. Big time. I always thought that it would be Wallace in front of the door. I don't know why, it makes sense to me.
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I disagree with your take on the homophobia issue. As with any good dramatic movie or tv show, the show is trying to present itself in a realistic manner. Whether you agree with it or not, homophobia is in our society, especially in high school. I agree with you that our society needs to get over this issue, but most high school boys are highly concerned with their image and reputation. I think most high school boys would agree that the worst thing for their reputation is to be labeled as gay. Please don't take this as me saying I agree with them, because I do not. I agree with you that it shouldn't be a concern, but in our society, for most high school boys, it is. In an effort to mimic real life, which any good drama tries to do, I think that particular threat is a very realistic concern for most high school boys.
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Revisit [i]Firefly[/i]
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You didn't mention Theo Rossi (sons of Anarchy) in "Weapons of Class Destruction"
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I haven't been able to see the headlines pictures for a while, even though I've sued Internet Explorer, Firefox and Google Chrome. Anybody else has had that problem?
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-I recall thinking that there had to be a reason why they went out of their way to emphasize Aaron being an abusive philanderer. Clearly, some of that was mostly to make Logan more sympathetic as a character. By "A Trip to the Dentist" I won't say I definitively knew it was him, but he totally was a suspect of mine. I never felt like it was Logan, and that camera in the room thing just fit with the egotisticalness of Aaron Echolls.



-I remember HOPING it was Logan. Just because I grew quite fond of Logan...but I thinking it was most likely Wallace as one of those red herrings. So I spent the entire break torn between those two.



-She's the worse. Plain and simple.



Okay the gay thing didn't bother me that much. It didn't trigger want of the rants that I can give while watching something. The sexual abuse always bugged me a bit even after watching all three seasons. I never thought of the making the homophobe appear to be gay thing as offensive, probably because it seemed like poetic justice. I never took it as anything negative against homosexuality. I seen it as true to fashion...the best way to really make a person suffer like that is to hit them up with the very thing they seem to fear. I think that's why the one gay character didn't mind jumping in on the action. The worst thing for a homophobic slimeball like that guy is to be ridiculed for being the very thing he despises...in a manner that he was the king of partaking in. It seemed fitting for highschool. I didn't see that scenario as them implying that homsexuality is wrong or worthy of ridicule..only that possible hypocrisy is. The joke would have been on him for being such a jackass and a hypocrite..not for him actually being gay. It did cross my mind that a certain message could be taken from that, and that it's sad that unfortunately to guys like him, being thought of as gay is the worse type of punishment. However, I totally see your point about it and I can only anticipate your reaction to things further down the line. (In fact I'm willing to bet I can predict what you'll say and I'd be there to agree.)



Now the rape thing always troubled me for various reasons. I love Veronica Mars and despite her never really being chummy with a great deal of people in general, she always has the air of coolness and some sort of approachability around her. It troubled me that she could remain tolerant bordering on friendly with so many of the people that were connected to that. Like Dick. He'd go on to be at the very least an acquaintance whom she'd do favors for or tolerated and the fact that he could have easily raped her or pushed someone/rooted someone on for doing that is disturbing. Intoxicated or not. Watching her become friendly with, date, help out so many of the people who ostracized her for so long was one thing...but the entire date rape scenario was something entirely different. The fact that it took a backseat for so long, the fact that she never shared it with her father, or talked to someone about it or really just dealt with it in general was troubling. How dismissive she was upon discovering that it was her sleeping with Duncan was troubling. Neither of them were in any position to have given consent and she spent an entire year THINKING that she had been raped...and for that to just be dismissed so quickly because it was her former bf...never set well with me. I know the things that come up down the line and even then...the entire sexual assault thing and the relationships and/or friendships that came about despite it was a bit disturbing. I say this as a Logan fan, because no matter fond I am of his character it didn't change the fact that he supplied date rape drugs and took a body shot off of her unconscious body at one point.



Weevil and the PCH'ers were the ones to tie that creep to the flagpole. Love Weevil. I found the relationship between him and Veronica to be one of my favorite relationships of the series. Wallace was always sweet and useful for when she needed some things but Weevil was always the guy she sort of called when she really needed a favor no questions asked. He always came through too. If it weren't for the fact that I seen him as like a protective older brother to her, I'd have said a more realistic "love triangle" would have been between him, her and Logan, not him, her and Duncan.
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I always loved Weevil.
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If you want to see more "I can't believe they're making this seem totally okay but it is so NOT okay" teen TV, watch Pretty Little Liars. There are more 15 and 16 year old girls dating THEIR TEACHERS and other late 20s early 30s year old men than hipsters riding bicycles. Yay for promoting statutory rape!



(Besides that, PLL is actually a good show and is pretty much the same as Veronica Mars, minus the detective parts. It's got a best teen friend killed by unknown acquaintance (or best friend) and sometimes weirdly offensive storylines).
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I don't know why but it always kind of baffled me how similar Veronica Mars is to Pretty Little Liars. It's like everytime I watch VM, I'm reminded of PLL and everytime I watch PLL, I'm reminded of VM. Even Alona who played Meg in VM guest-starred once on PLL. So many eerie similarities between those two shows.
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I hope you'll be recapping season 2 and 3! You get some serious explanations in the season 2 finale.... :)
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I thought it would be future schmitt the hunky deputy -- you forgot but it could be him too!!
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I tend to agree with Price here. Even if the reason Veronica falsely outs the guy as gay is because he would hate it, there's an implicit assumption that there's something horrifying about being gay in this situation, whether Veronica believes so or not. And that's because part of the "payoff" here (for lack of a better word) is the assumption that OTHERS would care if this guy was gay. I, too, found this course of events highly problematic.
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1: Did not see that coming

2: I was hoping for Logan - I'm a sucker for the bad boys ;)

3: Just simply despicable
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Oh Price! This made my day. And, to echo the many others below me, just wait till you see Season 2 finale. Swear to god it will Blow Your Mind. This show is one of the best things that has ever been on television.
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1 - I had absolutely NO idea that it was Aaron. It's rare for a show to surprise me like that, unless it's some random, completely unknown person that pops up in the last 5 minutes of an episode. But to do it over a whole season? And then for it to be someone who, upon reflection, you think - wow, how did I NOT see this coming? It was such a satisfying surprise! If I wasn't in love with this show before then, that certainly sealed the deal for me.



2 - After everything that happened, I was hoping and thinking that it would be Duncan standing at the door.



3 - Lianne is a horrible excuse for a person, but she's got serious issues that may have changed who she is now from who she was before - and she is still Veronica's mom.



Rant #1 - It's been touched on several times already - Your feelings are understandable, but I thought it was an incredibly accurate depiction of HS thinking and peer-pressure, 2005, don't ask don't tell, etc. It was this kid's worst fear to not get into the military (because there would be nothing left for him, he'd never amount to anything, his life would seemingly be over). I felt like it was more about THAT, than the methods they used to get him there. Also, G was a party favor back then and, yes, far more acceptable to use amongst HS kids.



Rant #2 - There was a LOT that led up to that moment with Duncan, and everything you think you know up to this point - you don't. Veronica doesn't just get over anything, she keeps her emotions locked up inside and she'll have trouble with that down the road.



Can't wait for you to start Season 2!! I'm having a great time experiencing it all over again with you and everyone else here!
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1) Someone spoiled me on both season one and season two who the killer was, which sucked. But I didn't predict it before I was told. I don't think I would have predicted it either!

2) I was fairly certain it was Logan but I was also hoping that it was him and not Duncan.

3) Lianne is definitely the worst.



Love your recaps!!! Just one thing - Duncan's Dad is Jake Kane, not Charles Kane.
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It was a really good season. And the finale was freaking awesome!



Well I knew that there is something really wrong with Aaron Echolls. I mean I knew he was sick bastard, but I never suspected him of killing Lilly. But there was a lot of really suspicious people.



I was hoping that it was Logan at Veronica's door, but I had some weird feeling that it was Duncan.



yes, Lianne is the worst. Really, really the worst.
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I did not predict the killer, sadly, but on the message boards for Televisionwithoutpity there were people who had Aaron Echolls pegged as the killer as early as the Echolls Family Christmas episode...

To that I just say, wow, that had to take real detective work...
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1) No way! Totally shocked, although that being said I had no idea who it was at all... so I think I'd have been shocked regardless of who it was...

2) I hoped it was Logan but thought it was probably Duncan after their teaming up earlier in the episode.

3) The literal worst...



Excited to see what you think of the increased amount of Dick (Ryan Hansen) in season 2... love him as the dumb comic relief character!
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Why this site censures the h o m o part in homophobic? It's a bad world in English? (sorry to ask...I'm Italian and I do not want to use an offensive word...)
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you shouldn't be so judgmental about the date rape case quite yet. the duncan-reveal was only half of what actually happened. you'll have to wait for the end of season 2 for the real deal.
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corrections:

the PCH bikers tied Tad to the flag pole, remember Weevil asking his boys where the video came from...



& its JAKE Kane, not Charles. lol
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Also in the Weapons of Class Destruction episode you missed out Theo Rossi from Sons Of Anarchy! LOVE HIM.



The only reason they used being gay as a threat was because he wanted to be in the military and she was exploiting the homophobic stance of the military.



And i think you'll find that Veronica doesnt just get over the rape thing, she has serious trust issues that she never gets over and i think its important to see that she bottles these feelings up and that makes her a better detective.
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Who else is proud we gave Price a new favorite show? I feel like we OWED you at least that, sir. HOLLA!
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Also Price...the Veronica's rape case? Just wait. Please. I won't say anything more. Just you wait, there was no downgrading. I always assume they realized they couldn't fit THAT reveal into this season, so they kept it for season 2. It's not over. It's far from over, sir.
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- I didn't imagine Aaron as the killer, expecially after his "bonding" with Veronica...Total surprise..

- I was really hoping it was Logan, but I usually ship tv-relation doomed to fail...so I fear it won't be him..

- Lianne is totally the worst.

About the rape thing, as they said, it will be reprised, and I think it was handled in a very mature way..It wasn't a rape in a street, it was a different enviroment and it's ok if they handled differently...

About the homophopic episode, I too think it was ok, they did this prank only because the guy was homophobic...I didn't see it as offensive in any way...

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MOREMOREMOREMOREMORE. Thank you, Price Peterson.

1). Nope, but I suspected there was something dark about him alright, like some episode - be it season 1 or beyond - would reveal he had corpses sitting in chairs in his basement that he enjoyed tea parties with on a Sunday afternoon. Typical absive dickhead stuff.

2). Wallace, Duncan or Logan. I wasn't sure.

3). UGH. The very worst.
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1. Can't exactly answer this question seeing that I shamefully read that Aaron was the killer. (Why did I do that?!)

2. I'm thinking that it's Duncan.

3. She might not be the worst when compared to the worst mother that I've ever seen on tv (a.k.a. Lori Grimes from The Walking Dead)



I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I haven't seen the second season yet. And right now, I have this sudden craving to take a trip to the nearest DVD store and get it...
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1 I did not predict that. Took me by surprised and I liked it!

2 I was thinking Logan.

3 She's a horrible human being.
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1. I honestly think no one would have predicted that.

2. I thought it was Duncan but hoped it was Logan.

3. Definitely yes.

Really, the season 1 finale was so great, I never could have imagined the season 2 finale to top that, but it did. It really did.
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1.- Not at all!!! Papa Echolls was a total surprise

2.- Not a clue at the moment. And was the most enjoyble surprise to see it was.....

3.- Please! That lady is baaaad news...
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1. Nope, and that was the last (only?) time I remember being genuinely surprised by a tv show.

2. Honestly? I kinda hoped it was Lilly.

3. Lianne is the Abbey Bennet of VM.
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Hey Price. You missed it, but the guy that played the bully in 'Weapons of Class Destruction' was Theo Rossi.... SOA's Juice.
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I was almost fearing you'd given up on VM!! I've been waiting for your dossiers so long!! They've rekindle my love for the show all over again, and I've just finished rewatching the third season (#VeronicaMarsMovie!!!!)

First I'll answer your questions and then I'll comment on some of your issues with the show.

1) I did not predict Aaron was the killer! But, with the benefit of hindsight, there were PLENTY of clues to at least consider him a suspect (Trina's boyfriend beatdown, beating his son). But the first time around, it was definitely surprising and shocking! I love VM precisely for how unpredictable it was for viewers.

2) Without spoiling? I can only say it was who I wanted it to be.

3) She's so totally the worst!! Stealing your daughter's college money? COME ON LADY!!! Wasn't it enough for you to blow up Veronica's savings in a treatment you dropped? Veronica was right all along: the hero is the one that stays, and the villain is the one that splits.



Now.... as regards Veronica's rape, don't be so quick to judge the development of that storyline just yet, there's more to come... that's as much I can say without spoiling it for you. However, the way they handle rape in season 3 was quite controversial, I believe you'll be doing much ranting when you get there.

As regards the whole "homosexual scandal", I didn't see it that much as Veronica herself considering homosexuality is something to ruin someone's reputation but rather as using what bothered the guy the most (he was clearly homophobic) against him, and potetianlly ruining his militar career, which was what he cared about the most. It wasn't a reflection of her stand on homosexuality, but rather a reflection of his.

Hope I see the next dossier soon!!
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- No, my thought was it was a regular (Logan, Duncan, Weevil).

- Think? Logan. But VERY good cliffhanger.

- Yes but she gets a run for her money.



I had a different take on A Trip To The Dentist. I think the point of that storyline was that while a bad thing happened, there wasn't a lone bad guy responsible which really fucks with Veronica's whole worldview that she developed in the past year. While the other storyline (lily's murder) had a nice easily identifiable bad guy (Aaron Echolls) that she even got to fight in the end, here she is denied closure and has to figure out how to deal with it. EVERYONE's responsible for her rape and no one is reponsible at the same time. Logan should have been more careful about who he shared his personal stash with. Meg should have stepped in when she saw how out of it Veronica was instead of leaving the party. Dick shouldn't drug his girlfriend (okay, he might be mostly responsible here). Madison shouldn't have spit in other people's drinks. Veronica should have known better than to drink anything handed to her from god knows who. And Duncan should have fucking stayed and talked to her in the morning instead of just leaving (and you know his memory of what happened was just as suspect as the rest of the testimony in that episode right? I highly doubt Veronica was as responsive as Duncan claimed she was.) The whole point was that a series of vaguely dumb and impotently malevolent choices by several random people lead to the event of Veronica waking up alone with her virginity gone. And she had no one to really hold accountable for it. Real-life implications aside, this was one of my favorite episodes of all time actually. Oh and about the homophobia and unfortunate implications? Buckle up, it's only downhill from here.
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