The Veronica Mars Season 3 Dossier: Episodes 5-8

Guys, I'm so tired of the rape plotline. So tired. I am rape-xhausted. Sorry that I don't have anything more productive to say in this, my precious introductory paragraph, but I'm just really tired of this rape plotline. Oh, and those terrible, terrible bald caps the victims have to wear. Their heads look like giant, fuzzy pink tennis balls! To be fair, maybe this whole Season 3 story would be more palatable if I were mainlining this season over a day or so and could just quickly move past the rape stuff and onto whatever the next big case is (I'm aware that Season 3 has at least three big serialized mysteries), but I've been watching this round in smaller chunks and it seems like every time I come back to it, I remember how not-entertaining this rape plotline is? Oh and now it turns out apparently some of the rapes were faked by a group of feminists? That's not only unsatisfying storytelling but it's pretty much offensive? This show! But then again it's always been this way, so I guess maybe now is not the time to start complaining about questionable messages on Veronica Mars.

Anyway, hey guys! Sorry I've been slacking on my Veronica Mars recaps, but here is a new one! I hadn't forgotten! I just get tired of all the rape, okay? I am only human! On a more positive note, I think I like Piz so much, like so much, that I don't care about Logan anymore? SORRY FORGET I SAID IT PLS DON'T BE MAD. Okay, let's talk about Episodes 5 thru 8!



Season 3, Episode 5: "President Evil"


Case of the week: Neptune was already a full-time nightmare town, but even nightmare towns celebrate Halloween! While Veronica was chillin' with Logan in that weird dorm casino (dressed as Meg and Jack White because 2006), a couple of dudes in rubber president masks like in Point Break robbed all the patrons at gunpoint and even went so far as to take Veronica's necklace (a gift from Lilly Kane). Presumably because of how frequently Weevil groused about the spoiled rich kids at this college, Veronica immediately assumed he'd been behind the robbery, but it turned out some shady campus security guards were behind it. Also at one point Veronica got randomly told off by a little girl (stand your ground, V!), but at least the girl's purple bubblegum helped lead Veronica to the culprit. Or something. To be honest I'm not sure, I just could not believe the 'tude on that 9-year-old sassbomb.

Then in another weird case-of-the-week situation, Dean O'Dell and his wife hired Keith to find the biological father of the wife's son, who was gravely ill and in need of a bone marrow transplant. But after the bio dad was tricked into arriving at Keith's office thinking it was an audition, he declined to donate marrow and a few days later disappeared altogether. At first Keith was suspected of having kidnapped the selfish dude, but it turned out Dean O'Dell had knocked him out and taken him to the hospital for an unauthorized donation. Dang, Dean O'Dell!

Oh, and Wallace cheated on a test. Knock it off, Wallace.

The plot thickens: This episode was not too heavy on the recurring storyline stuff, but there WAS a brief tidbit: Using ATM security camera footage, Veronica identified an Asian man standing behind the most recent rape victim shortly before her alleged assault. Even though the victim claimed she'd never seen the man before, it turned out he was actually in a well-known frat AND ALSO her boyfriend. So, um. Busted?

Don't I know you from somewhere?

Hey look, it's Glee's Dianna Agron as some random smarty-pants.

The sick kid's dad was played by Richard Grieco from 21 Jump Street and If Looks Could Kill, obviously.

I will jump at any opportunity to talk about Tower Prep now and forever, so here we go: A helpful pizza shop employee was played by Ryan Pinkston! (Miss U Tower Prep.)

Wallace's ne'er-do-well teammate was played by Robert Ri'chard, who has been in EVERYTHING, most recently as a background actor on The Vampire Diaries.

Episode verdict: This episode was not the best! Not terrible by any means, but it felt lacking in certain ways, particularly when it came to the total lack of Piz and Dick. Where were they? Also this episode made it clear that Logan didn't have all that much to do on this show anymore? Lately he'd just been a doting boyfriend or a sounding board for Veronica or also just some weightlifting bro who disappeared for long stretches of time. I'm definitely starting to get deja vu from Season 2, since Duncan suddenly had nothing to do and then got written off. Stay in the game, L! But as for Weevil, I know this show constantly wants us to believe that he's capable of bad things, but come on. Would Veronica honestly pin a crime on this guy right away like that? Nine of out of ten times he'd been a hero to her; did their history count for nothing? Get real, girl.



Season 3, Episode 6: "Hi, Infidelity"


Case of the week: The big case this week centered on Veronica herself: After her paper scored the best grade in the entire class, her professor took her aside to offer his support/sponsorship for a summer program or whatever that may or may not lead directly to a job at the FBI. But then the creepy T.A. in the weird wig (because that was totally a wig, right? Have we talked about how that T.A. was definitely wearing a wig yet?) accused Veronica of having plagiarized the paper, so the whole episode became about Veronica clearing her name. After doing some cyber-sleuthing to prove that her paper predated a copy that had been posted online, Veronica followed the uploader's trail to the Neptune Grand where she discovered her professor having an affair with Dean O'Dell's wife. As it turned out, the T.A. had faked the entire thing just so that Veronica would discover this tryst for herself. Um, okay, thanks, T.A. Everybody's cheating on each other, what's your point?

The plot thickens: The closing tidbit of that T.A. plotline was the reveal that he had ALSO been investigating the serial rape case (per his Carrie Mathison-style wall collage of evidence), which I think was supposed to make him look suspicious, but his weird wig had that angle covered already, don't worry.

Speaking of the rape case, Veronica fully debunked the most recent victim's rape allegation (yay?). But apparently not ALL of the rapes were faked, so the case was still open! For example, when Mac's roommate Parker (hypothetically Mac's roommate Parker because WHERE WAS MAC ANYMORE?) smelled a cologne on Mercer (the casino mogul) that smelled like one her rapist was wearing during her rape (Axe? I'm going with Axe), Veronica snooped in Mercer's dorm room and found electric clippers in his underwear drawer. Meanwhile Sheriff Lamb found Mercer's empty lockbox (from the robbery in the previous episode) and it contained empty containers of GHB. So, bingo! Mercer's the rapist. Let's pack it up and go home because finally this plotline is concluded.

Except, nope! Logan was like, "Mercer's innocent, Veronica you gotta do something." So ugh. Back to square one there. The problem was that Logan claimed he and Mercer had a rock-solid alibi for when the verified rapes happened except he refused to divulge it to Veronica. That's not the best way to treat your girlfriend, particularly when her entire lifeblood is secrets and the exposing of them. So yeah, rocky waters ahead for the LoVe ship. (I think I prefer "Vegan" for the ship name but it wasn't up to me.)

Here's Piz sitting on a couch! Hi, Piz! Okay, the thing was, I'm not gonna lie, he was sorta creepy in this episode. He was trying to arrange a kinda date with Veronica despite knowing full well she had a boyfriend, and he used that old tactic of getting her agree to a group hang-out and then didn't invite a group. But Veronica did bring Parker and Parker got a crush on Piz (fair enough) but he didn't like her back and then after that it became very clear to Veronica what was going on, and that made things awkward. Okay maybe he wasn't that creepy, he was just following his heart, you know? Lay off Piz, everybody!

Meanwhile Keith and Harmony started boning a ton even though Harmony had a husband but Keith only agreed to be her male mistress after he crashed his car into some dude and decided he wanted to live while he's young like One Direction says to.

Also Wallace quit the basketball team so that he can study more.

Episode verdict: I liked this episode more than the last one. Everybody except Wallace had an interesting plotline (Wallace will never have an interesting plotline, so no worries there) and I love whenever Veronica has to do self-serving casework. Raises the stakes! And while I'm not tired of Logan exactly, I appreciated that Piz's appeals skyrocketed just as Logan took another turn for the shady. This show is really good at telling us who we should sympathize with and when. At this point my sympathies are aligned with the best haircut 2006 had to offer.



Season 3, Episode 7: "Of Vice and Men"


Case of the week: In a classic Veronica moment, she got tired of all the haters and went into hiding. Okay, maybe not "haters" but she did get super disillusioned with Logan and her dad not being honest with her anymore, and she decided to secretly crash in Wallace's dorm room while he was gone. That's basically going off the grid for a college student. Fortunately for us, Piz came back early so they shared a room together and he was in his bathrobe a lot, but that's all beside the point: The case of the week involved a visiting teenage girl who aimed to crash with her boyfriend only to discover that he'd gone missing. While popular consensus was that the dude was just breaking up with the girl in the most awful, passive-aggressive way imaginable, Veronica felt bad and pressed onward with trying to locate him. As it turned out, he'd suffered a head injury while surfing and wandered into that one bar with all the awful Irish thugs. Mystery solved!

As for that bar scene, boy was it unsettling to me when the one brother picked up Veronica and carried her around the bar! I know Kristen Bell is tiny, but I don't like seeing her get overpowered like that! I like it when she's a tiny stick of dynamite, but that's me. Oh, last thing about this scene: Vinnie Van Lowe saved the day! That was great. Also he did it by holding up a broken flip phone and pretended to film even though it didn't have a camera. 2006!

The plot thickens: Mostly Veronica just agreed to exonerate Mercer from being the school rapist, but she did it with a big chip on her shoulder toward Logan for his refusal to explicitly explain what their alibi was. As we came to learn, Mercer was doing his radio show during some of the rapes, and then later he and Logan were in Mexico burning down a motel room for another one of them. Yeah, it was the Mexican motel fire that Logan was trying to cover up, but after all he and his family had done/been through was that seriously even a big deal? I don't know. Logan's shadiness seemed kind of unwarranted in my opinion. But yeah, Mercer was set free.

The biggest and scariest turn of events was that Veronica suddenly found herself directly in harm's way when the school rapist drugged her hamburger, followed her to the parking lot, and then shaved off a lock of hair as a warning. I don't know, it might've been more serious if Logan hadn't realized something was wrong and came looking for her. Phew!

Also Keith and Harmony broke up because Keith Mars ain't no runaround skeezer and also Vinnie Van Lowe blackmailed him. [sadface emoji]

Episode verdict: This was good! I liked all of the scenes of Piz sleeping on the floor. And as much as it freaks me out to see Veronica in harm's way (I shouldn't be watching TV, apparently), I appreciated the forward momentum in this plotline. The rapist is now fully aware of Veronica and she's in danger now! That's progress.



Season 3, Episode 8: "Lord of the Pi's"


Case of the week: On the eve of a huge vote to determine whether the fraternities and sororities should be allowed to continue raping, shaming, and hazing the student body of Hearst College, the deciding vote and heiress to the Hearst fortune went missing. But since that heiress was played by PATTY HEARST we knew something was up. In this case she'd gone into hiding and it had something to do with a secret lesbian affair she was having with her student assistant. Other than that, though, she seemed pretty willing to get rid of the Greek system, so that was chill of her.

Meanwhile Veronica was still helping Dick with frat stuff. Specifically in this case, a frat bro put a plastic egg up his butt:

Also, here is Veronica Mars doing this:

The plot thickens: So here's where the rape plotline got really terrible: It turned out the group of campus feminists (including the former editor of the student newspaper) had faked Claire's rape (in addition to others) for the greater good of getting the Greek system shut down.

This was the worst, obviously. Writers, I'm mad at you guys now. This reveal was arguably even more offensive to me than the homophobia and pro-cult nonsense in Season 1. Sorry, I'm never letting that stuff go because these are things that will forever tarnish this show's legacy. Seriously, Veronica Mars could've been A LOT more perfect. But now it is very much not.

Anywaaaaays. Logan and Veronica's relationship also took another major hit when he phoned her in the cafeteria and watched with his own eyes as she declined his call and went about her business:

Cold! (But I was on her side; Logan needed to not be so shady after all he'd put her through. Also, if I am about to eat a hamburger, I will send the Lord Himself to voicemail.)

IMPORTANT WALLACE UPDATE: He got a nice haircut.

So yeah. Hope you weren't expecting to learn who'd drugged and nearly assaulted Veronica in the previous episode. Remember, this show was PRE-TVD so it was frequently in no hurry to give us what we wanted, story-wise. Long live TVD.

Don't I know you from somewhere?

Camp icon and national hero Patty Hearst played Selma Hearst Rose, and it was terrific seeing her do something outside of a John Waters film. Love her.

Episode verdict: Honestly, that fake-rape reveal was enough for me to flip my television the bird. By comparison, the poop-encrusted plastic egg was downright classy and thoughtful. So yeah, other than the faked rapes, this was a largely entertaining episode! So many Patty Hearst in-jokes!


To sum up: As you may have noticed from my very perfect and not hastily written opening paragraph, I'M TIRED OF THE MAIN PLOT RIGHT NOW. Can we please end this nonsense and get into a main storyline that isn't bad and offensive? I realize I'm ranting in the present tense about a show that ended years ago and all I need to do is just keep watching, and I will! But at this point it's mostly for Piz. More Piz plz.


QUESTIONS:

1. Am I wrong about this rape plotline? Did it bug you also?

2. How mad are you that I'm not shipping LoVe very much? Can we still be friends though?

3. What is your favorite Wallace plotline of Season 3 so far?



PREVIOUSLY...

The Veronica Mars Season 1 Dossier: Episodes 1-8
The Veronica Mars Season 1 Dossier: Episodes 9-16
The Veronica Mars Season 1 Dossier: Episodes 17-22
The Veronica Mars Season 2 Dossier: Episodes 1-4
The Veronica Mars Season 2 Dossier: Episodes 5-8
The Veronica Mars Season 2 Dossier: Episodes 9-12
The Veronica Mars Season 2 Dossier: Episodes 13-16
The Veronica Mars Season 2 Dossier: Episodes 17-19
The Veronica Mars Season 2 Dossier: Episodes 20-22
The Veronica Mars Season 3 Dossier: Episodes 1-4

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Price, oh Price. I would so love you to do the rest of this season. I'm not too proud to beg! Pretty, pretty please?!
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okay, i just need you to finish the dossier's for season 3 because:

a. you are in my brain and we think the same thoughts
b. closure
c. I AM TEAM PIZ ALWAYS AND FOREVER AND NO ONE ELSE IS. except you. so come back please.

thanks!
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Now that Pierce is back, will he continue doing these dossiers? He stopped right before one of the best episodes of the series... And I'd love to see him finish the show just before the movie!
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Me too!! I just bought the 3rd season (I can't believe I didn't already own it) and I am reluctant to watch past episode 8 without added commentary. I kno...crazy, but come on Price, finish the dossier for the series!!!
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So....no conclusion to Veronica Mars? I'm happy for you Price, but bummed that those of us who have hung in with you on VM are never going to read your closure...you're only one episode away from the end of the heinous rape storyline, for god's sake! Hopefully you will come back w/your thoughts when/if you finish season 3; I know I for one will be excited to read them. Good luck in your future venture!
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Price, I don't know what the heck your deal is with the rape storyline. I loved it, and thought it was well done. Just because a rape storyline is being shown doesn't mean it has to play out a certain way for it to be good. If the writers of VM wanted to show a rape storyline, they can damn well do it anyway they want to- it doesn't always have to involve admirable/heroic/morally right characters or their actions, so to me, showing the reactions (and actions) of the different characters on the show, no matter how reprehensible they might be, seems to be a pretty spot on move, because Neptune has never been presented as a place with a population that is morally good or heroic. The characters are more often then not questionable, and if you think their actions/reasoning is offensive, remember that certain events can be powerful motivators, just as Veronica pointed out in 3x08, and these characters were never hinted as role models, but different human beings that have very different beliefs, and as such, they will act accordingly.
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1. No you are not, and yes it is. I was not a big fan of Season 3 VM in general though. Rape is one of those hot button issues that I find myself very passionate about, more specifically crimes against women and children in general, It's been that way for as long as I can remember, so there were many things that rubbed me the wrong way about the rape storyline. I found myself more annoyed by it more recently when I rewatched the series, than I was at the time when it was airing.
2. Not mad. Overall, I liked my Veronica Mars single and doing her thing with the investigating. Some ships I liked better than others, I like LoVe, I like Viz, and shockingly I didn't mind WeeVer. But basically, I preferred her single. So yes.
3. *crickets chirp* ???? Ohh! That time he shared the screen with Rider Strong. Rider Strong was so handsome back in the day (still is). I loved me some Shawn Hunter.
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Just reminds me how much I miss this show :(
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For the record, it's not confirmed that any of the other rapes are faked. I highly doubt that the rapes from last season were faked. The feminist would've given up that plan if took that long. You need to finish the rape storyline before you write it off. But yes, the feminists are pretty terrible. But so is everyone! I think you miss the conventions of the genre when you don't realize that everyone on this show is terrible in some form or another.
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I'm not sure a/t my LoVe feels now. At first I was all Team Logan o/c but in season 3 they made just EVERYTHING to stop caring a/t their pairing. I was tired of all this old trust issues/bad boy issues/etc.

But it didn't make me grow fonder of Piz, idk why. He always seemed a little boring to me. I think they just didn't know what to do w/him or how to put him and V together w/o enraging LoVe shippers. Well, w/o enraging them MUCH at least))
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Yay glad the VMars recaps are back. I thought you might have gave up on them. Yea the rape plotline sucks especially when most of it was a big fakeout. Never heard the name Vegan but I like it but I think LoVe looks/sounds better. My favorite Wallace storyline is coming up. I believe the rape storyline ends in the next episode, and its a really good episode.
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So glad your VMars reviews are back, I've missed them! But you missed a couple 'Don't I Know You From Somewhere"s:

In 'Of Vice and Men', the Meryl girl is played by Amanda Walsh, who was a MuchMusic VJ for a while (Or, if you're not Canadian, she was in Beauty and the Briefcase haha).

Also, in 'Lord of the Pi's' the lesbian student assistant is and always will be remembered as Dee Vine (yep seriously) from 'Drive Me Crazy' - starring Adrian Grenier and Sabrina the Teenage Witch! Long live terrible movies!!
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Yay! Yay! Yay!
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Was Veronica Mars good at washing her face? Because Kristen Bell is GOOD at washing her face.
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When I think about late Veronica Mars, the bar scene sticks out in my mind because it was the only time she was ever caught on a lie. Normally she could use her mouth to Bugs Bunny her way out of anything. It was pretty bold to bust the cliche there and almost have her get beat up.

Logan pretty much does nothing in Season 3 but lounge around on his couch, play Mario Kart and whine. If you're waiting for something good to happen between them, that's in Season 4, now available on DVD in Neverland. But LoVe has been confirmed as destiny by the writing staff, even though the series doesn't last long enough to get there.
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Can you post a link to writing staff talking about Logan & Veronica as destined? Wonder how this will play into the VM movie...
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I really thought you’d given up on VM, so I’m pretty excited the dossiers are back!! Yay for you!!
First, some thoughts on your article:
1) Oh, come on!! You keep talking about the T.A.’s WIG but you still haven’t realized he’s the same actor who played Lucky in the last episodes of season 2??? That’s why the wig and glasses!! They had to make him look differently, in a cheap fashion, because the show was running on a low budget (I guess that also explains the tennis-ball look for the girls who were rape-victims).
2) I agree that the whole rape plotline was weird, creepy and awkward, but isn’t that how rape actually is? I mean, how can you tackle such an awful issue in a TV show? You could never do justice to all the parts involved. And I understand why extreme feminists could be offended by the portrayal of them in the show, but if you’re watching Veronica Mars you should NEVER EVER FORGET that first and foremost you’re watching a (neo)NOIR show, and, by definition, everyone has to and will be corrupted and of dubious morals, even our heroine, Veronica herself. I’ve always watched the show with this in mind, and I can really appreciate how no one is ever straight good or straight evil. It’s something really hard to accomplish, especially when the show is not pointing fingers to make you hate anyone for their wrong-doings.
3) Now I’m really pissed-off! Well, sort of… well, not really pissed-off, but you know what I mean! How come you didn’t notice (or if you did, you failed to mention it) that “Lord of the Pi’s” is an amazing homage to one of the greatest movies ever made, “The Big Lebowski”? The show has referenced this movie since pretty much the beginning, and now comes season 3 they decided to do an entire episode using the plotline of the movie. Awesome!!
Now to your questions:
1) I think I already answered this? It didn’t bug me that much, but it turned out to be quite tiresome.
2) I was and always will be LoVe shipper. But I’m ship-friendly. I respect ships of all sorts.
3) Wallace who? At this point in the series, the only thing that I liked about Wallace was his friendship with Veronica. Other than that… snooze-fest!
Okay, if you’ve made it this far into my rant, a world of thank you!! And I wanted to tell all my fellow Veronica Mars fans that you should check out my Tumblr: marshmallow-the-vampire-slayer. It’s about my two TV obsessions: Veronica Mars and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. (I did some gifsets with all the references in the show to “The Big Lebowski”). Thank you and a good day to you too, sir!
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I can deal with you not shipping LoVe, especially the season 3 version. But seriously you like Piz??????????? That's just wrong on so many levels.
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First off: YAYAYYAYAYYAY your VM recaps are back!!! Praise whoever it is u praise and rejoice in this moment.
Questions:
1. Yeah it did bug me about the way that the feminists faked the rapes that was horrible. I cant really remember how I felt about this plot when it first aired besides it being dark. But when I rewatch the show I know when it ends and how it ends and that the things that have happened need to to complete the storyline but to also move us into the next one.
2. We can still be friends. I have always been a huge LoVe fan, but I love Piz aswell.
3. Idk I liked the class experiment he did with the prisoners and the guards The part when Logan streaked and saluted him in class always cracks me up.

Oh god how I love this show. Kristen Bell is my favourite female actress. I just watched the movie Hit and Run with her and Dax Shepherd in it. It also had Ryan Hanson (Dick) in it which was cool, a mini VM reunion.
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Well, the next mystery about the Dean drags even more and is more convoluted and pointless than the rape one (though less politically incorrect I guess) so good luck...

Watching S3, I am sad to say, one understand why this show was cancelled - I wish it was different but they messed up with these less than interesting mysteries that were executed poorly.

Oh and yes, LoVe is definitely the only way to go I am afraid. The show partly failed because they f***ed up that part too...

Still VM rocks!!!
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Spoiler alert!!!
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-I can say that I didn't hate the rape plotline. I didn't love it either, though. I just liked seeing Veronica Mars fully unleashed in a more professional, adult kind of way. I would have been happy with any kind of big case, though I do like the ones at the end of this season better than the rape one, so I guess you're not wrong.
-I am not mad at the lack of the LoVe Ship. Logan still is one of my favourite characters for the complete arc he goes through during the course of the show, but he was never my favourite guy for Veronica. So I'm okay with that. Also, I'm a huge fan of Piz, too. More Piz = better in my book, and if I were Parker, of course I would develop a crush on Piz (honestly, though, I more developed a crush on Parker, but that's me and my ways, and not your problem).
-Wallace kind of got sidetracked about in season 3. He was much more present in the first two seasons. There's a later thing with Wallace that I liked from this season, but at this point, he hasn't been more than a set-up for Veronica's awesomeness.
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I never like rape plotlines--or Law & Order SVU--so I feel your pain. But I never jumped on the weak, simpering, aw-shucks Piz bandwagon, so him creepy trying to get Veronica was pretty low on the entertainment scale for me. I kept waiting for season 3 to get good again, but it never really hit those memorable plot/episodes. I blame it on a lack of Logan/Veronica riffing, but it could have been questionable morality points in the underlying plots.
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I'll never understand why TV nice guys are labeled "weak" while jerks are supposedly "strong" examples of what men should be. If any of you girls were dating Logan in real life, you'd dump him too.
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First, "you girls" is kinda condescending. Second, I never posited Logan as an example of a "what men should be." Third, I don't mind nice boys, I do mind spineless ones. Piz was introduced as a pretty incompetent boob who needed saved by Veronica, he never sparred with her the way Logan could. He pretty much hung around like wallpaper too weak to tell Veronica how he felt about her and waiting for an opening to sneak in accidentally. He never really stood up for himself or what he wanted. I like equality and Piz was never up to Veronica's strength.
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I agree. Piz never seemed weak, he's just not a fighter. Getting into a fight with someone doesn't mean there's strength of character. I'm still a bigger fan of Logan's character and feel Piz didn't fit, but I never viewed him as weak.
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It's not about fighting. Logan's punch first ask questions later was one of the weakest parts of his character. But Piz was just a comical beta character and Veronica needed an alpha. At least a guy who could give her a run for her money snark, intelligence, and confidence-wise.
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I got sick of rape being a plotline in each season, it was brought up in some way throughout the entire show, and that got a bit tiring. However, I don't look at this as offensive. I like to take shows/films like Veronica Mars - noir-ish stories - and accept that people will do awful things in them, because very few noir-esque stories feature characters who DON'T do awful things and try to justify them. I never felt the writers were trying to convince me any actions the characters take were good going up against evil, I feel like I'm watching characters make bad choices because they've been morally corrupted at some point. 90% of noirs appeal is being able to watch people be awful without having to sigh and feel like we're meant to be on their side. (Which is partially why I dislike TVD, it's a show that tries to get us to love everyone but never shows us why we should love them. It TELLS us, through other characters, but we never see. Elena does awful things but we're still being convinced she's a an angel, because everyone f***ing LOVES Elena, but I should probably not talk about TVD, far too much to say, and little of it is in support of the show.)
Rape, in the real world, isn't viewed unanimously as an evil thing that must be stopped. Heck, there's an entire TOWN that tried to cover up a rape committed by numerous players on their school team because it's a good source of money to the town. People can be sick when it comes to rape, whether they're in support of it or not. It's not always okay to have a rape storyline featuring The Victim and The Rapist and The People Who Are Team Victim. Rape's scary thing, and people take desperate measures to DO it, and sometimes to stop it. Rape, as a plotline, was getting old, but I was never offended. I don't want to sound annoying repating the word 'noir' over and over so it seems like I'm trying to sound smart (well, I am, but only a little), but that is, essentially, what noir is. It's hard to swallow at times but you don't have to take sides. You can be your own side. No one is trying to make you pick a team - that said, I'll always be Team Veronica (she with her own moral black holes.)
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I might add this is why Piz never felt like a good fit for me. I might have to rewatch to be sure, but he didn't fit in quite right because, if memory serves, he was pretty much a good guy through-and-through, and Veronica Mars almost prided itself on being about not-good people. People who were morally corruptable, and he seemed someone who had their morals well intact. Could have been a good foil for Veronica, then, teaching her about doing good even though she has a thirst for vengeance, but nope. He just never felt right, not as a moral compass or a love interest. A fun guy, but maybe not one we needed.
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Yey I'm so happy the veronica mars recap is back I was worried for a while because you at least have to make to episode 9. (no spoiler intended) but mostly this recap couldn't have come in a better time, they started airing in my country reruns of the show 3 episodes at a time every Saturday and last week I got as far as episode 7 of season 3 so I'm totally reliving the show again because last time I watched …well let's just say it was a long time.
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Not just the rape plotline, the whole season 3 is weaker than the first two
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Not sure if it's a ****spoiler*****

okay, thanks, T.A. Everybody's cheating on each other, what's your point?

All will be revealed.
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I actually enjoyed this plotline originally. I dunno, I never really found it offensive, but I guess I just realized that the sad fact is that it's not the first time a rape has been faked. I find it more offensive that women would do this to begin with, with just makes life more difficult for those who suffer it legitimately. Although I will admit I enjoyed the second half of the season (and the second plotline) more.
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I guess the reason I found it so offensive was exactly because some of the rapes had been faked. Yes, unfortunately that does happen, but no where near as often as it is portrayed in the media. Studies show about 2% of reported rapes are falsely reported, which is about the same percentage of falsely reported crimes across the board.

Now, 54% of rapes are never even reported in the first place and 97% of rapists will never spend a day in jail. I find those stats much more upsetting that the 2% of falsely reported reported rapes, so.

It's not any supposed high occurrence of falsely reported rapes that make it hard for women to come forward, it's the fact that the media (fictional programs and news) vastly over-represent the tiny number that are faked.

Anyways, sorry you got a whole essay there but it's an important distinction to be made :)
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Best surprise ever! Happy you're back to re capping, like the idea of Vegan instead of LoVe!

I agree that the plot line about the rape got a bit stale after a while, but if I remember correctly they put it to rest soon? I don't know I might be wrong, I don't work well with time lines on shows.

And no worries you'll get a lot more of Piz soon! ;)
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It's BACK ! thank You Price, it is Christmas after Christmas.
I had to watch the 3 seasons again when you started recaping them just to be in phase with you.

I understand your anger towards the Rape Plot. I thought it was very redundant too especially since we've already talked about rape during season 1 AND 2.
I wish the writers could have thought of something a bit more original. However, the ending of the plot gets better.

I am a big LoVe shipper, I think they have great chemistry together but I agree with you on the role of Logan during the first half of season 3. They spent 2 seasons building its character until the "we are epic" scene just to make him a shadow character. But when he comes to rescue Veronica after her encounter with the rapist how knighty he looks!
That's odd. I wish they did more with Dick too... more on his relation with is dad/mom,...

I liked the prison game because I was so sure that Logan would win it, but Wallace really outsmarted him (not really him but the stupid guy who spilled it out)!

I don't get why you like Piz so much, I think he's ok but not that great. I rather watch Vinnie saving the day by tricking his Irish clients !
The scenes with Veronica getting in harm's way were quite impressive and stressful, I think they add some depth to the serie.

Please keep recaping !
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I love Piz so I am totally with you. Logan was so annoying in this season. I know that he was so worrying about Veronica, but all the time all these secrets and hidden past. Nope. And Piz is adorable.
Yeah, rape as the main plot was a bummer. Nope. I was so tired of it that.
Wallace... Well about him. He is just the time filler nothing more. He had absolutely no good plot lines this season.

And I am happy that you are back with VM!
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SO MAD AT YOU for not shipping LoVe anymore, Piz is the worst!!
I do agree with you on the whole rape plotline, I remember when I was watching these episodes for the first time and getting more than a little pissed off with how drawn out and stupid the rape storyline was. And from what I remember, it was almost the end of the season when it got sorted. Can anyone confirm?
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It ends in the next episode.
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It ends pretty much in the dead middle, and then the second major plotline of Season 3 takes over pretty much directly after.
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OMG I literally watched all of these episodes for the first time within the last week. It's like a normal show review for me, thanks Price! The rape stuff is uncomfortable and I also disliked how the victims were portrayed as wanting the frats taken down more than finding the actual rapist. Piz is great, Logan is waning, Wallace is desperately inconsequential. Can't wait for the final three installments!
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I liked Piz but I never liked him for Veronica. He always came across to me as childish and spastic. For me, regardless of how awful Logan was being at any given moment I always loved the chemistry between him and Veronica. I never felt that with any other guy she dated on the show. Once again, I always had the sense that Veronica would never survive with a nice guy, an average joe, etc. Logan was passionate about everything whether it was good or bad - I liked that for Veronica.

Never liked Wallace. I could see his purpose in season 1 but then he could have disappeared and I don't think I would have noticed.

Don't like rape storylines of anykind. TV always seems to trivialize every aspect of the dispicable act. Having said that, I loved Veronica Mars so much back in the day I could have watched her reading the phone book especially if Logan was in an episode to make me smile.
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You are NOT WRONG! I hated the rape plotline sooo much, and the reveal that some were faked was downright rage inducing. 2006 was supposedly only 7 years ago, but it seems like a lot longer and we've come a very long ways as a society if that ish was cool back then. The whole thing really just contributed to my general dislike of season 3 :( I wish I could say it gets better, but I don't really remember the rest of the season.

Logan, Logan, Logan. When did you become a super lame character again? You used to be so awful in season 1 but now you're just dull. That's worse! Go away, Logan. I for one would ship Veronica living da life as a single lady, but Piz is pretty darn likable.

Wallace had plotlines???
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IT'S BACK! Thanks Price so much for this! I've been missing these recaps.
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Sad you came back to the recaps not having a good time. I remember the rape plotline being controversial. I am glad to see the recaps again though!
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