The Walking Dead "Home" Review: Don't Fence Me In

The Walking Dead S03E10: "Home"

Even in the afterlife, Lori is messing up The Walking Dead. Rick's dead wife has returned as the series introduced hallucinatory ghosts to its canon late last week, and wouldn't you know it? There was Ghost Lori beckoning Rick to leave the safety of the prison in the opening moments of "Home" because Ghost Lori would rather haunt us forever than move on to the spirit realm. So there was our fearless leader, plodding around in the exterior garden hugging and making out with the air while Michonne stared on in disbelief in one of the series' biggest bummers of a cold open.

In the immortal words of Shane, "Lemme ask you sumpt'n:" Raise your hand if you want to see Rick chasing after Dead Lori. Okay you, the one dude with the ghost fetish who raised his hand, get out! Rick's no stranger to a case of the Madness having already spent hours on the prison phone talking to dead people and stopping slack-jawed in the middle of a gun battle to see a vision of his dead ex-best friend, but it's time someone slap some sanity into him because Crazy Rick is boooooring, and has been boring ever since he first got the sweats and stomped around the prison. And for the most part, he's doing this on his own with no moral support (Hershel finally asked him "What up?" to which Rick replied, "I've... I've been... I've got... stuff out here."), taking him away from the group for a series of soap-opera acting lessons from Andrew Lincoln. Rick's mental deterioration should stoke enough concern from the rest of the group to stage some sort of cold shower or intervention, but instead everyone seems fine to let arguably their best chance at surviving this thing chase butterflies in the grass while zombies roam free in the area. Can you think of a worse journey to lead a show's main character on than a situation in which their reality is clearly altered (even Rick knows he's trippin') and it has the same effect on the group as if he had just stepped out for a long cigarette break? Rick needs to be interacting with the group, not chasing after his bitch of a cheating wife.

The absence of Ranger Rick and Deputy Daryl supposedly left Third-in-Charge Glenn in command, but his attempts to sway the troops towards his idea of ninja-assassinating The Governor were laughed at. Well, I laughed while everyone else traded awkward glances. Seriously, Glenn? You finally get to wear some stripes and your first idea is to play cat burglar? Revenge for the atrocities inflicted on him and his fair lady in Woodbury have Glenn totally bonkers.

Then Glenn and Maggie got in a fight for no reason, Axel and Carol had a chat that would prove pointless a bit later, and we were halfway through another mess of an episode that may as well have all its characters talk to bars of soap or wear pots and pans as hats and bang on them with wooden spoons. Thankfully someone remembered that this show was about killing zombies, and the second half of the episode appeased our blood lust.

Daryl and Merle came across a family pinned on a bridge by zombies, which allowed the brothers to have that "Are strangers worth saving?" argument (Daryl is pro, Merle is against). The idea was to bring Daryl back to the good guys for a bit and sell some Subaru Outbacks with the new Guillotine Backdoor feature, and both worked. But what did we learn about the Dixons in their time apart from the group, aside from seeing Daryl's back tats and child-abuse scars, that made this side trip feel necessary? Not a whole lot, and before the episode ended Daryl and Merle were already back at the prison so we can have the whole "What's Merle doing here?" argument all over again. And yes, it's coming. Prepare yourself. I was expecting Daryl and Merle to be on their own for at least a few episodes and have something interesting happen on their adventures, but that Daryl-Carol shipper fan base is pretty powerful, I guess. Anyway, it makes all that pro-brother arguing from last week seem pretty silly now.

After a bit more chatting that led nowhere (Hershel: "We need you back, Rick!" Rick: "Sorry, stuff."), Axel got cockblocked in the worst way possible while making moves on Carol, aka the closest thing with a vagina. We've seen these two really open up to each other in the last two episodes, and it was really great to see Axel accepted as a *BLAM* OH MY GOD THEY KILLED AXEL! Do these writers get off on developing a new character just enough for us to fall in like with them, only to have them eaten/shot/filleted in the very next scene? At least give us a ceremonial mustache shaving next episode please, because Axel's lip caterpillar is worth saving in a shoebox for a rainy day. I liked Axel. Sigh, throw him on top of T-Dog.

Axel was taken out by The Governor, who stopped by the prison to annoy its inhabitants rather than completely wipe them out. After that first lone shot nailed Axel right in the mustache holder, a lengthy rally of warning shots between The Woodbury All-Stars and The Prison Rats rang out and it was genuinely thrilling despite the fact that no one was able to hit a target for like 45 minutes. Then, like a game of street stickball, someone called "Timeout" while a car approached and everyone stopped shooting. This turned out to be The Governor's big move, and soon a truck busted through the gates untouched and everyone grabbed a breather instead of shooting at each other, because hey, truck! To be fair, it did look like it could have been an ice cream truck and everyone loves ice cream.

But instead of being filled with frozen dairy products in the shape of Spongebob, it was full of zombies! A lot of zombies! It was like a clown car full of zombie clowns! It was The Trojan Rabbit of Zombies! Perimeter successfully breached, The Governor and his thugs chuckled and went home leaving me puzzled about that plan. Was his intent to drop by, ruin the element of surprise, and leave the zombie apocalypse equivalent of a flaming bag of dog poop on their doorstep as a message? This was a great job for an annoying neighborhood teenager, but for a man bent on squashing the life out of his rivals, I would have put a little more effort into it. I mean, they took YOUR EYE, Governor. That deserves a little more than a slap.

And that's the thing about this climactic scene, it was super cool but did it make a lot of sense? Was this part of a larger plan or did The Governor simply get so mad that he needed to annoy Rick's group immediately? Something feels off about the whole thing if breaking down the gate was The Governor's main objective. Ditto about Daryl and Merle leaving and then quickly coming back, Carol and Axel's talking, and Glenn and Maggie's fight. These things are happening, but to what end? Show me some purpose, The Walking Dead!

"Home" was an incremental improvement over "The Suicide King," but didn't quite pull Season 3 out of the rut it's stuck in. These past two episodes stink of the writers stalling after overloading the front half of Season 3 with the good stuff, and now we're just watching people leave the group and come back, others go crazy or get angry and become problems, and Beth feed a baby. The Walking Dead is pretending that things are happening right now, but really it's just shuffling pieces around the board and hoping the finale gets here sooner.


NOTES

– So Tyreese and Sasha and those other two actually left the premises completely. They'll be back, and I hope something interesting happened to them while they were gone.

– Daryl heard a baby screaming inside a car with closed windows before he heard men shouting and gun shots. Daryl is baby crazy, look out Carol!

– Also, Daryl and Merle should be looting those cars on the bridge instead of getting away as fast as possible because they're in an argument. Am I the only one who wants to survive this thing?

– I think it's time we all accept the fact that a crossbow isn't that great of a weapon in times like these. Daryl had to run around and yank ammo out of dead zombies, reload, and then hope he didn't miss. I'll stick with a flamethrowing missile launcher, thanks.

– The best thing about the episode (excluding all hatchback-related zombie kills) was Bear McCreary's score in the opening scene. We've seen him step up at times with some great pieces, but the overall series score has been so inconsistent that it's very noticeable when his tunes really add to the moment.

– What was happening at Woodbury? Not a whole lot. Andrea walked around looking for The Governor, Milton stammered, and The Governor actually complemented Andrea on her good speech and suggested that she lead the town.


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The writing has become laughable on the show. That shootout might be the worst thing ever, except for cowering Carol using Axel as a shield. That was awesome. She has grown a lot since season 1. The Governor is just a moron. He could have taken them prisoners and tortured them.
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In the previous episode review you were complaining that the characters weren't showing true bonding stuff, and now you're complaining about the Dixon bond defining stuff (which could soon be relevant). Sorry it wasn't interesting enough, but it was something that was being verbally clamored for in the previous article.

Honestly, outside of Glen's whining and Rick's needless crazy period that I too agree is tiresome, it took reading the last two episode reviews to some how acertain that the past few episodes have no apparently been enjoyable?

Also yes, sad Axel died, and Woodbury citizens are very much akin to those awful girls on those spoiled "sweet 16" reality shows.
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Really? "This show is about killing zombies." Are you that stupid? This show is about how people would deal and survive with a zombie apocalypse. Go watch Dawn of the Dead or some shit you damn retard. You need to stop watching the Walking Dead if you think that's what the show is about.

And yeah I liked the start, I liked every bit. I understood every bit. All of it made sense to me. I enjoyed every scene. So what? You should GTFO and go watch some B movie about zombies.
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Carol has come a long way from the abused housewife we saw in season one. The way she used Axel's body as a shield without a) so much as a second thought and b) whimpering. Badass. Although I was fully expecting Axel to come back and bite her. Was so relieved when he didn't.
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I haven't read the comics, but since she got to Woodbury and people started complaining, all I want for this show is for Andrea to go full-out bad-guy. That would make up for a lot of things.
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Has anyone asked how the bad guy got in the tower in the first place? I thought it was a great episode minus all that lori shit and as much as i wish it was just death to zombies and anyone who crosses the gang but you do need some 'real life' moments as the show is about real life zombies. Shit does happen and does need to be talked about. You can tell the prison has made them soft since at the end of last season they could shoot a moving zombie in the head every shot from a moving car. The brothers going walk abouts couldve lasted a little longer. Axel getting popped off was awesome I just dont know how no one could hit a target except the guy in the tower.
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Axel cant be thrown on the same pile as Tdog, Tdog deserves his own pile as he lasted more then half a season. Probably had the same amount of lines though haha
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LOL. Too true!
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Thanks to TBBT and all that talk about Lori dying,I started watching TWD. I like this season the most atm. Season 1 just dragged,then finally something happened at camp and they moved on. Season 2 was better,but with Shane and Lori and Dale,it was boring at times. I like this season the most,because of Michonne and her use of katana. Only smart one,beside Daryl,who aren't using guns. Glenn,Maggie,Hershel are also ok. And Carl is in same boat. At least one kid,who can act on tv.
I laugh at these zombies....I mean walkers(wtf!?!?!)...some barely walk,then if needed they run and when they are in a group it is funny to see,how some people "act" zombie-like:D No wonder people got overrun,when they feed zombies,they ran from them and there are only 2 coming at them in slow-motion,they shoot them in chest instead of head. One would think,that with all these tv shows and all,people would know how to kill zombies. Sigh...all this aside,it is still one of better shows to watch,because they are not afraid to kill main-ish characters. Please don't kill Michonne or Daryl anytimes soon.
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No offense to the fans of the horrid actress that played Lori but who did at AMC does she have incriminating pictures of? I thought she was dead and I was back and happy about that fact and there she is again. Damn this show just when I thought it was getting better.
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I understand where the Governor is coming from. Firstly he wants revenge, just going in and killing the group isn't really enough, he can make their lives hell, destroy their plans for a stable future, destroy their hope. Secondly he wants to make sure that nobody else can get a foothold in the prison in the future and therefore become a threat to woodbury. The main point of the attack was to destroy the front gate.

Tactically it achieved, removed a supply line from his enemy i.e the open space that could be used to grow food, placed an obstacle before any other supply line because they have to now get through a bunch of walkers to get out of the prison, and made their defensible position slightly less defensible.
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great deductive skills!! XD
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That shooting scene was laughable retarded. This may be on of the worst WD episode.
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I'll admit that Axel was growing on me as a character, but I still think he was in prison because he guest started on Dateline NBC's To Catch a Predator.
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This might be pretty heartless but I actually laughed when Rick was like "I've got stuff" and Hershel had the "you're kidding right" look on his face... oh Rick, such poor excuses...
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I laughed too, I don`t know if it was their intention or just how Andrew Lincoln pulled it off but it was definitely a little funny.
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" I'll stick with a flamethrowing missile launcher, thanks." Naaah! Gimme a fracking sword man!!! Gimme a Katana!
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How about a bolt pistol, ala No Country for old Men...just a quick punch through the brain and you can use it over and over?!? Need to stock up on C02, I guess! haha
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Mmm that sounds interesting... but man wielding a Katana is seriously bad ass, a bolt pistol is... erm rather freaky! LOL. Plus not very practical to run with the CO2 LOL.
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booo, I liked Axel..
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Firstly, OH MY GOSH (i think that is what yanks say instead of god these days?).
I was half asleep on the couch when suddenly BAM I got woken up. Had to skip back a bit to see that perfectly placed headshot (with a Steyr AUG from about 500 meters, standing and losely aiming, but OK). But it woke me up. Then to commercials and I thought: "Wow, great cliffhanger!". But Glen Mazzara wasn't done yet and kept spending blanks as our beloved prison inmates traded ill aimed shots with our not so beloved Woodburians. All in all, a nice way to get rid of Daryl's competition to Carol's affections, as I was actually thinking what will happen when he gets back to Sing Sing and finds his dear sweetie chatting it up with another guy. But, BAM, the guv'nor solved it.

Secondly, Tim Surette, I think you don't see the above mentioned guv'nor just the way that I do. He didn't come to wipe out Rick and the Gang, he came to play. Otherwise he wouldn't have shot an unarmed man but Rick instead. No, the guv'nor is in it for the fun. He tried to kill a few people, dropped off some ghouls as a valentine's and then headed off, leaving his business card for Rick, stating: "Hi there, I'm the guv'nor, come out and play!". He'll be back at Woody's by now, talking to some new Futurama heads and waiting for the cat and mouse play to continue. Him being the cat, naturally.

On another subject: Did anyone notice the lack of southern accents from the main cast ever since season 2? It seems that even in a world ruled by the dead, being categorized as a hillbilly is not a thing someone wants to be,
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The fight between Glenn and Maggie wasn't for "no reason". She's pregnant. This explains why she was so upset with Glenn only caring about one thing...whether she was raped or not.

Darryl and Merle had to go to the woods so they could argue and Darryl could realize who his "real family" was, the Prison Rats. This also gave Merle the opportunity to see that Darryl had been abused as a child also...so now Merle is going to become a good guy. And of course, their timing back to the Prison had to be perfect to get the group to allow Merle back in.

Now we can get back to the core, important issues of the show....Derl, Cerl, Merl and Cerl.

Your reviews are great and tend to voice exactly what my coworkers and I discuss about the show.
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I agree the argument between Glenn and Maggie was not for no reason. The tension they have built up for some time needed some airing. I am happy it did. In such situation, usually a man would be most concern if the woman was rape and also about revenge. The woman would be piss with the man for thinking this way instead of caring for her.

Darryl came back was not for no reason too. He heard Merle mentioned that the governor is the kind of guy that would definitely take revenge and attack the prison. So Darryl was worried and he decided to go back. He challenged Merle to follow him and Merle did. I was thinking perhaps there is redemption for Merle and he would join the group.

Then just when the group is willing to start accepting him, the writers would kill him off :-)
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1) Rick Chasing a Ghost - To me it makes perfect sense, this is a guy who cannot stay put and always looks for a way out, a mission,a distration, etc, so he doesnt have to face the issue at hand, this was something Shane even brought to his attention several times, like him wanting to leave when Carl was dying, or when Carl killed Dale, etc... Now he has a bunch of unresolved issues which are a) His wife cheated on him with his best friend b) has a baby that may not be his c) Did not get to resolve his conflict with his wife before she passed away ... Lori ghost its his subconcious trying to make him face there things.

2) Daryl & Merle - I like that he came back so quick, he grew to love everyone in the group as his fam and realized that Merle was just an ass..

3)Few things that made no sense a) WHO the hell was with the BABY when everyone was outside?? like they just leave her in a box in the floor?? Shouldnt someone had stayed behind? b) How that guy got up in the tower?!?
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Worst gun fight ever!
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Wait a minute! Where's big black guy who was friends with moustache skinny white man? Did I miss his zombie death? I thought that man on a tower was that black guy! And it was someone else from Woodbury? How da hell did he end up there? And in all I agree that they are screwing second half of a season with these kinds of episodes. I know second half of this episode was great filled with actions and tension but not that much sense though( And I didn't like how Governor was so "awesome" and didn't give a damn to get shot by thousands of bullets, he just stood there like crazy person, no bending, no motions, just shooting like commandos. It was ridiculous. Who is he? Terminator? I hate Governor, he is ridiculous character. Wish they killed him already. I want Tyrese and his sister (or wife) back. We need some new hot interesting chick out there. I'm tired of Maggie antics, Carol, Andrea's stuckness as script device and mute for some reason Mischonne. Give us new faces already. These characters are awful.
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you mean Oscar? He was killed in Woodbury when they went back for Glenn and Maggie.
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first zombies now ghosts... man the world is really screwed... what's next ghostzombies?!
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There's always been ghost, it's just we haven't seen it on the show.
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there are no ghosts, he is halluzinating and psychotic due to stress/sleepdeprivation
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i know, it's called sarkasm
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Actually its called sarcasm, lol. Sorry, i had to.
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Ah that's cool, Ralle1988. I guess I shouldn't talk then since I can't spell a single german word- except "sarkasmus" now ; )
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oh sry... i'm from germany. here it's called "Sarkasmus" it's a spelling reflex... happens sometimes
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2 points:

- First, any one else notice that the Governor now thinks he's bulletproof? This is the second week in a row that bullets are flying inches away from him, and he's scoffing at them like they are bread crumbs on his shirt...Watch the look on his face during these scenes. True nutjob this man is.

- Second, the show made a point of showing the dead guy on the tower, any chance the group forgets about him, he reanimates and kills someone we all love?
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I don't think he's bulletproof, I think he didn't care whether or not he got killed trying to avenge Penny. He has lost it, just like Rick.
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The Governor -é um filho de uma quenga!- I liked Axel! ;x
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i have some questions
1- where in the blue fuck did Glenn go? he didnt go to woodbury, so did he just go cruising for some zombie hookers? do the hookers have zombie pimps?
2- where did the other group go to?
3- how did that guy get in the watch tower?
4- how come rick can talk to dead Lori on the phone, but once he meets her there is no conversation
5- why did no one bother using the scope on their rifle except for the Governor when he killed Axel?

it was an good episode, as a little side note, i think it may have been better if the Governor shot axel in the heart and he reanimates while carol is using him as a shield, so she has to hold him off until he gets headshot by one of the many bullets being shot at her - it would have only needed to last 20 seconds, but would have been an exciting scene
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I had all of the same questions! They left quite a bit unanswered. And your scene with Axel definitely would have been better. Too bad you don't write for the show!
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zombie hookers.....very good
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Can ppl really not understand what Glen and Maggie are fighting about?
Glen ASSUMES she has been raped without ever asking her about it, transforms the rage and humiliation that HE feels about what happened to HIM into a crusade about his poor, violated GF, and then proceeds to advertise her business to basically everyone else. When he finally gets the balls to ask her, of course she's mad! He's been misrepresenting the incident to the group out of his own rage/humiliation, downplaying being severely beaten like it doesn't factor into his need for revenge, and airing out Maggie's business to all and sundry.
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Spot on with your reasoning. But they actually had already talked about it- I don't remember exactly when the scene was but he asked and she didn't tell him details of what happened but said he didn't rape her. But Glenn apparently thought she lied either out of humiliation or to protect him from the truth. So that's another reason she's angry.
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well put indeed, I share you POV completely. While others praised Glenn for stepping up as Rick went to 'Mad town', I was thinking it was more to his rage than taking in charge of the group - it's his trust issues and his humiliation first, only then safety of the group and Maggie. Quite unfortunately. Well, hopefully they will survive all this s..t as a couple
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Well, it's hard for him too. He doesn't want to bemoan being a victim. When everyone says stuff like: "You need to get a handle on your rage, even though you're in bad shape from having the crap kicked out of you," he turns it around to "Look what they did to Maggie!" It's about his sense of what it means to be a man, especially in survivalist times like these, and to handle things like a man (the heroic Westerns tradition illustrates this well)—he can downplay or "get over" his own pain, but his precious girlfriend? Men (and women—just not shown so much in literature) feel entitled to be outraged for their SO's sake. Many men (and women) handle traumatic events by transforming their own need for justice/revenge into a sense that someone else's pain must be avenged. That way, they can ignore that this totally horrible thing that they can't just get over happened to them.
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Well put
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I didn't get that until you said it. does make sense though...
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Great review Tim, it made me laugh a couple of times while reading it (the parts about Axel, so true it's funny as hell). I also couldn't understand the fight between Glenn and Maggie, I mean wtf?
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I think Rick is mad mental crazy and has been since he started talking on the phone with dead people after Lori died.
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Why shouldn't Rick be hallucinating ? Those people are al on the brink of starvation and then I'm not even starting on the mental stress he is going through... I didn't mind him going of the deep end so far. I'm sure the close call at the end of the episode will have been a wake up call for him !
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Plus he's been getting less and less sleep, which only compounds the problem.
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Ok, I get it Rick has issues regarding losing his wife, etc., but him cuddling with ghost. Hmm, that's over the top even for me. Even I now hope that this topic will cease to be escalated in such ways as it is ruining Rick's character. I can accept him as a person who's struggling with his loss, missing his wife, even seeing ghost, but actually being touched by one?
Daryl's walk with Merle was almost a complete waste IMO too, but, well, at least he's back where he belongs. Regarding Merle, i just hope he won't survive to the next season, until then I'll take him.
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yeah merle is insufferable, he's got to go. hope it's bloody!
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Oh and teh ghost thing is ludicrous. just cuz this is a zombie show, does NOT excuse this kind of tacky move on teh writer's part....
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The undead have now been relegated to minor annoyance in the show it seams. I hope the show focuses back to the zombies apocalypse.
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it shouldn't as the zombies are not the real nadies here... they are vorace but predictable whereas humans are cruel, sadistics and far more dangerous
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The show is not "about killing Zombies" It's a character-driven show about survival (yes, by way of killing zombies), relationships, and rebuilding some semblance of a civilization.
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In my humble opinion, the show despicts the de-evolution of society in the face of an extinction event. The fight for survival, in the minds of some, is the survival of the fittest. Those who would take advantage of the weaker in our society would do the same in the apocolyptic setting. Zombies merely serve as a reminder of the global crisis.
Rick's psychosis is the result of being underfed, being overwhelmed with responsibility and grief, and exhaustion. As far as Glenn and Maggie are concerned, that is psych 101 of being in a relationship where one member has been violated or is presumed to have been violated.
As much as I like Axel, I found myself wondering how he could survive in this world olonly seconds before he was shot. He had no chance with Carol, and Carol's swoon when he called her a lady was not a response to Axel but to having never been called a lady before. Axel was a hapless failure long before the apocolypse and clearly would not have survived outside of the security of the prison. Axel's conversations with Carol in this episode articulated this eloquently.
Daryl had to be with Merle in order to realize that his own character had developed and he no longer needed his "jackass" big brother.
The Governor did exactly what he said he would do: repopulate the prison with zombies so that no one could live there. The gun fight was the distraction for getting the truck of zombies into the prison grounds.
I feel that those who call for more on-screen zombie killing are much like the residents of Woodbury at the fights! The reviewer, and the general populace seem to miss these finer points
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Well said.
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The whole time I was thinking why is Axel talking so much and stealing screen time and then I got my answer, he was gonna die.
Also can someone explain to me why since december they keep showing us that Andrea is coming to the prison and it still isn't happening? Get on with it already.
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"Thankfully someone remembered that this show was about killing zombies,"
I dont recall the show or indeed the comics the show is based on being about 'killing zombies' the thing that makes this show interesting is the inter-personal and groups battles they all endure time and again.
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I meant to add, but forgot, that unless Daryl is fletching some pretty amazing arrows (bolts) for his crossbow regularly there is no way that his arrows should be flying so accurately. Wood would warp after a few shots from a crossbow, unlike with a bow (which would take longer). Most of his bolts/arrows look like the store bought aluminum shaft type with the coloured 'feathers'.

Just being picky. Still, Tim, if you want to talk about the lack of practicality of weapons, just take a look at Rick's gun at the end of the episode -- it becomes a glorified fist because in zombie world there is a lack of bullets.
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I think what they discussed after the episode on "Talking Dead" about what the Governor is up to really makes sense. It's what I thought while watching the episode. At first, as Tim put it, it makes no sense why he'd basically be trying to "annoy" them. However, when you really think about it, he was doing much more. He doesn't want to simply walk in and kill them. In his mind, they deserve worse than the other groups he's killed just for supplies. These people are responsible for the death of his zombie daughter, the loss of his eye, the deaths of several of his people, and the disturbing of the tranquility of his town. Not to mention that if not for them, the people in his town wouldn't have started to see the man he really is, making him have to put someone else in charge. To him, these people need to be completely destroyed. Driving up and just killing them all would be too easy. Killing Axel, destroying the gates and releasing a bunch of walkers did one thing other than annoy Rick's group. It showed the Governor's strength. He did it to show that he could. To make Rick's group fear him more. He wants to break them down little by little before he crushes them. The episode didn't leave me questioning his motives, but instead realizing even more the man that the Governor is becoming after the loss of the last thing he loved.
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Exactly!! The great thing the show is doing is showing The Govenor become the monster we all know he is supposed to be. Again this was also mentioned in Talking Dead... Tim do you watch that?
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Tim, i think you need to watch this show with a little bit of a less critical perspective. Let’s face it the holes you pick in this show are minor compared to the major criticism. Where do they get water? The water supply would be contaminated and i have never seen it rain once. So if we can forgive this blatant fact we can forgive the character believability factor.
By the way loved your daryl baby line....classic
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Lol, that's funny...
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Ah, but you forget, that it rained in like 1st or 2nd ep of season 1. They must have stacked enough water to last them till this day LOL And also when Herchel was wounded and brought to the cell, wasn't it Lori who opened the tap in an actual cell and there was running water there - for some strange reason it seems water supply is somehow intact LOL but let's also face ti, that's like minor details, as long as this show keeps me entertained, they are not bugging me in the least
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It's Atlanta area. It rains all the time - in fact, it rains so much it has been deemed "uninteresting" and gets no screen time - though a big group of zombies getting distracted by lightning and thunder at a climatic moment could prove to be good theater
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good point :) I wasn't aware that it should rain all that much in that area. Still maybe the logic behind all this is that only action happens that it does not rain. Like everything freezes or something while it rains until it stops LOL
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Good point, Brian! I don't think I've seen it rain in zombieland once either, nor has anyone commented on that fact.
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There were like two completely different episodes condensed into one: one was boring, bleh, meh, Lori GTFO, and the other was utterly crazy and had me on the edge of my seat. The way they killed off Axel was awesome, especially because of how unexpected it was and how his brains spilled all over Carol's face (lol). I have to say that, having read the comics, I found that both Rick's insanity and The Governor "surprise" attack are... underplayed, let's say. In the comics, Rick goes bananas after the attack and two deaths, and after being in isolation with Carl for quite some time. In the show it seemed a little rushed and not so firmly rooted on an emotional breakdown (yes, his wife died, but they weren't even together, and he had made it clear he didn't want anything to do with her). In the comics, the Governor's surprise attack was actually a surprise (it happened MONTHS later), they weren't expecting him and he actually overran the prison, it reshaped the story so far - while here it was just so rushed and ineffective that it bordered on laughable. I was actually expecting the van to explode and was quite disappointed when zombies got off. So while I was quite satisfied with the last ten minutes of the show, knowing the original story, I know it could've been soooo much better. And I really hope they drop the Rick-is-cuckoo storyline because they aren't pulling it off, and they are really ruining the remedial work they had done with Lore before killing her. An improvement, but not the best we've seen. They are still flunking on the character development side of the show. Maybe they just need to do away with it and focus on smushing zombie's brain, which is always awesome and welcome!
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Did anyone else notice the continuity errors regarding Daryls torn shirt? It gets torn, his tattoos are on the right, camera looks away while he puts on his backpack, his tatoos are on the left. We get to the prison, his shirt is still torn, but completely different than it was before. I noticed that, but somehow managed to miss that Merle was upset over seeing his scars. I thought it was about the tattoo at first, and was like, "what, did Daryl get branded?"

I also thought the scene of Maggie and Beth feeding the baby was unnecessary, and I'm worried about what they're going to do to Maggies character. My impulse says they are going to use this as an excuse for more drama, and Maggie to start wanting a kid.

Also, with Tyrese gone, I'm getting really fed up at the writers inability to write for a black male. T-Dog was barely present for the entire 2nd season, only to die when they got Dexter, who died as soon as Tyrese walked in. Now their solution is to hold it over us that "oh, there's a black guy who we didn't kill! And he will appear sometime in the future again!"
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I noticed the tattoo thing as well and it distracted me so much I didn't even see the scars.
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Dexter? You mean Oscar? or ru confusing shows now :P
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Actually I forgot his name. Dexter was the name of the prison inmate in the comics.
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No, no errors there. He has a mirrored tattoo both on the left and the right of his back. Shirt stays the same.
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No he doesn't. Upon further inspection of the scene, the shot where it's on the left is a mirrored shot. If you watch it, you'll notice that the crossbow and bolts switch hands as well.

As for the shirt, you may be right. When I watched it again, I noticed that he's now wearing a vest over his shirt at the end of the episode.
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You are right - the tattoo traveled! Either a mirrored shot or they painted it on the wrong side which is hard to believe.
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I guess they have enough felons running around -
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Each week I love the episode and then read these reviews and feel like we've watched completely different shows. I loved season 1 (except for the last episode) and hated season 2 because it was all talk and no action. Now this comes along and it's AMAZING, yet the reviewer hates it. I wonder would the show be better if it was just killing zombies all the time? If we never had any character development at all? My answer is no, there needs to be a mix of killing and talking. If you want a zombie slasher you can watch a B-movie or play video game. I don't think this show was ever supposed to be just action all the time.
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The reviewer is not suggesting that there must be action all the time. In the contrary he just wants more sense when the characters are doing all the talking
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AND I THINK HE IS RIGHT.. Just take a look at the scene between Glenn and Maggie. It was nonsense. Ok sure she was almost raped but I think that scene should've been GLENN making sure that MAGGIE was ok. But we received a reaction from her that was not believable.

Merle and Daryl should have been alone a bit longer, just to justified Daryl's decision to leave the group.

Last week for example Andrea's speech was cheesy and bad. There was no way that speech could convince the people of woodbury to stay there.

The reviewer asked for more action scenes because apparently that's the only thing the walking dead manages to do right.
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Yep. Tim's issue is more with *how* the char development is done. The point is kinda the (sometimes cheesy) dialogue leading nowhere or progressing too slow. As soon as that gunfight in the end started the story began progressing fast and I bet most of us woke up at that point. Until then nothing really happened in the episode - including many (not all) character interactions.
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Agree with the opening scoring -- one of the better parts of Rick's plunge into insanity (I had hoped it was temporary, but after seeing the preview for next week's episode I guess it is not).

The Merle/Daryl thing can be explained off pretty easily, and I think you're being a bit over critical of it, Tim. Obviously Daryl and Merle had to come back to bail out the group, but more than that Merle touched on a few nerves not caring one iota about the baby on the bridge (or the family), saying his friends would be toasted by the governor, and just being an ass while Daryl has grown fond of gentler company.

The end was pretty intense, and while it raised a lot of question marks (I too was thinking -- "perfect time to hit your targets, peeps!" when the truck entered the prison grounds and stopped), it made me want the governor to take a bullet or arrow more than I had wanted it before (knowing, of course, he wouldn't). And how about Carol using Axle's body as a shield! Sorry, Axle... I liked you.
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Your flamethrowing missile launcher comment made me think of this:

Master Shake: “Where the fuck is my flamethrower?”
Frylocke: “Oh, that? Well, that probably got lost in the move.”
Master Shake: “That’s a quick response. Maybe you hid my flamethrower because I make poor choices with it.”
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It kind of seems like Walking Dead is trying to not be like comic and are therefore doing things in the show that are counter to what happened in the comic. And some stuff just didn't translate well without the comic knowledge. E.g. Michonne vs. Governor, the Governor did absolutely nothing to Michonne to warrant her level of hatred towards him. And with the prisoners and Tyreese. I don't know if they think that the 12M people who now watch the show have gone out to buy the comic to see what happens, but I'm guessing they haven't. So when you start doing stuff just so that it's not the same as the comic, it sometimes doesn't really make sense to people (the majority of your audience) who haven't read it. BTW it's a good comic, like there are worse things you can do than recreating it scene by scene.
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Naruto is written basically scene for scene from the comic and it is pretty successful. Obviously with live-action (and censorship), you couldn't do everything you can with the comic, but I would have had no problem with them following it pretty closely.

Once that truck rammed through the gate, I'm pretty sure every person who has read the comics got really tense.
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Naruto is a POS for faggots
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You sound very mature. Thus, your opinion hurts me greatly.
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Naruto is awesome.
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Also? I was half-expecting Rick to see Lori when it was really a zombie. That scene where she touched his face, and he closed his eyes at her touch? I was really expecting the camera to spin around and show us a zombie about to bite Rick's nose off.
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Me too! Kinda like when Daryl kept seeing Merle in that episode in season 2 but it was really a zombie tugging at his shoe.
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I'm pretty sure Ben and Allen will end up in Woodbury where they belong.

It seems like the warning bells are finally starting to go off inside Andrea's head. Still a little slow though. I hope she's just formulating an escape plan or something.

Poor Axel. The show really zigged when I expected a zag on that one. I really thought there'd be a little more development before he became a casualty. So much for the prison crew. RIP, my red-shirted homeys.

Why did they go through all of the trouble of hiding Lori's face through the first set of hallucinations? They obviously got Sarah Wayne Callies to reprise the role, so why all the lighting and angle tricks? We knew it was supposed to be her, so why not just show her from the start instead of making us think they got some stunt double for the shots?
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A few notes - obviously, Merle is a mole. The sooner he is assimilated, the better. Second, the Governor lost his sniper and wanted to breach the hideout and bring walkers to the area to hopefully do his dirty work for him. He does not want to destroy the compound, as it would be another locale for the group. Third, I'm assuming the doctor will be similar to the comic book doctor.
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I liked this episode but im not sure if its because it was actually a good episode or is it because someone died, im starting to believe TWD writers have trained us in some weird way to only accept the show when it shows us death. With that said I was completely caught off guard when the Governor arrived, and loved the scenes with Darle & Meryl it showed how much Darle grew as person and how much Meryl was stuck in his ways, Meryl was basically trying to hold Darle back but he was already hero you could see it through his actions.
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Did you called them "Darle" and "Meryl" on purpose or did you just mixed up their names unintentionally? Just curious!
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lol im not sure I didn't really notice that until now maybe it was subconsciously.
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Maybe because DavidJackson8 had used those spellings
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I'd have liked to have seen Darle / Meryl (pretty much sounds the same anyway) on the road together for a bit longer than the half episode we got. Killing zombies and eating squirrels, that's the life I want to see! But, uh, I guess I'm happy they're back -- so long as the group doesn't yell at each other about Merle much more... just accept that you can use him to fight the Guvna, then deal with him afterwards.

I kind of like seeing Rick going crazy... but uh, fuck off apparition-Lori. She's lame EVEN IN RICK'S IMAGINATION. If you're going to have Rick imagining her, at least make her ride around on a pony shooting lasers out of her eyes.
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Well, I thought it was an awesome episode. Gov laughing and shooting his gun into the air shows that he doesn't care so much for plans. He's about as looney as rick. And I clapped loudly for the return of the Dixons, similar to how I clapped the first time I saw Han Solo return to help take down the death star.

I think we can all agree the ghost of lori is a stupid plot line, but it's here, so we're gonna have to ride it out and deal with it
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Thanks for the Star Wars spoilers. Jeez guys I will get to it... at least so I can understand the vast majority of pop culture. Actually I don't care. Spoiler on.
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It's not clear to me why Glenn and Maggie are fighting. I got a vibe he didn't like she obeyed the Governor, but I'm not sure...

About the weird tactics of the Governor... maybe he is trying to make the group attack Woodbury again, so when he kills them and take the prison his action can be justified? Just a thought.
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Maggie and Glen are fighting because he's using what he ASSUMES happened to her as a way to justify his feelings for what happened to HIM without having to cart around the baggage that he's traumatized himself. He's also yelling out things like "You don't know what he did to her!!" like he knows what happened (though he never asked), totally misrepresenting the scope of her trauma to Rick (and others). It's her business, and he needs to deal with his own humiliation/rage.
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Thx, that makes sense!
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Must be some victim mentality thing that I'm not getting. I thought Glenn was mad at her for revealing that they were at the prison, but apparently, she's pissed at him. WTH?
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I think she's pissed at him because he DIDN'T reveal the location (which means he preferred protecting the whole group rather than her, he knew they would hurt her if he didn't speak and still he kept his mout shut to protect the others).
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Man, I hope that's not it. I mean, it would be one thing if it they were a bunch of strangers, but her dad and sister were at the prison, and based on the Governor's actions, she should have been able to guess he wasn't interested in going over there and making friends.

I thought it was stupid of her to blurt out the true location rather than send them back to her farm where that herd of zombies might still be loitering about.
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If you say so. It definitely doesn't fall under actual logic though.
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Troll logic.
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"I love you more than you love me because you put the lives and safety of my family and our friends ahead of my dignity whereas I gave all those mfers up just to save your hand?"

How offensive would it be if I said I could only accept this if we chalk this up to woman logic? Maybe Maggie logic? Because it's definitely not actual logic.
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You're right, that woul've been smart. Still, I don't think that while you're half-naked and believe you're going to be raped you're going to think straight and make up something. I do think that Maggie is mad at Glenn for what I wrote before, I think that even though she knew he was protecting the group (her family included), the fact that Glenn knew she was being tortured and still wouldn't talk while she caved in when she learned what they would do to Glenn somehow means to her that she loves him more than he loves her. Hope it makes sense...
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I am SO GLAD that Tim said Trojan Rabbit instead of Trojan Horse.
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And if that doesnt work, you can always try a Trojan Badger......
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