The Walking Dead "Hounded" Review: Collect Call from Crazy Town

The Walking Dead S03E06: "Hounded"

While I can say with much conviction that last night's episode of The Walking Dead wasn't my favorite episode of the season so far, I'm having an impossible time figuring out where to place it. "Hounded" was 99-percent set-up, putting people back in their places (Rick) and moving pieces around the board (Glenn, Maggie, Michonne) as we prepare for the inevitable showdown between Team Prison and The Governor's hoity-toity summer camp of love.

I'm not sure what "Hounded" was about, per se, but the most important thing it accomplished was ending Rick's bad day. Despite what the foundation of NBC's Go On would say, on a series like The Walking Dead, Dead Wife Grief Hysteria should last a maximum of two episodes, and Rick came out of this episode cradling his newborn baby (I'm going to name her Shania, if that's cool with you) and at peace with the horrible events of "Killer Within." The Andrew Lincoln crazy eyes are gone, replaced with those of a proud papa, and this is a great thing. There's enough craziness in the world of The Walking Dead that we don't need to see Rick crying in the corner by his lonesome. The show is stronger when Rick's at the front leading the charge, and while this two-episode detour of lunacy was necessary for continuity (his wife died, after all) I didn't want to see another hour's worth of sulking. Lori's death will sting for a while, but hopefully it can be used to motivate Rick into moving forward.

But the best method of fixing Rick is up for discussion. I'm going to lay it all out and state something y'all might not agree with: I can't stand hallucinations on television. Or dream sequences. Or hallucinogenic-induced vision quests (unless they involve Homer Simpson). All those things are especially tricky to pull off when they're played off as trickery intended to dupe its audience into thinking what they're seeing is real. The problem is that revealing hallucinations to be hallucinations, especially after we've become invested in thinking they're real, is incredibly anti-climactic, and that's exactly what happened in "Hounded." The ringing phone was such a huge moment in "Say the Word," but now if we ever go rewatch that episode we'll groan and grumble about the fakeout because it amounted to an empty cliffhanger. However, Rick does love to monologue into inanimate speaking devices, so talking with dead characters at peace in Heaven does fit well into the series' canon. Also: With those dead people telling Rick that essentially he would be joining them in the afterlife soon, were they calling from the finale of Lost? Hey Lori, put Sawyer on the phone!

What Rick (and The Walking Dead's writers) need to do is give Carl a little more attention. When Carl left the room after shooting Lori, it was such a powerful glimpse of innocence utterly destroyed that I was sure it would dominate later episodes. But since that traumatic event, the emphasis has been on Rick. Daryl's story about his own mom is the only therapy Carl has received, and Carl's response was a dry, "I shot my mom." There's so much drama to play with here, and so many ways to handle it. I like that Carl being unaffected is an example of what it's like to grow up in this world, but that's something the show has mostly glazed over. I'd like to see Carl talk about what he did and absolutely lose it. Let's see Chandler Riggs show off some acting chops and break out the water works or stare blankly into the face of his shattered childhood. At the very least, let's see something. Rick's biggest concern right now shouldn't be Lori's loss, it should be the potential loss of the son he once knew. The son who shot his mother in the face!

Thank goodness Merle Dixon got a lot of action in the episode, because he's as real as it gets. Michael Rooker is cementing himself as one of genre TV's all-time best nutjobs, and his unpredictability is keeping things fun. His methods might be questionable (chasing a katana-wielding maniac in a forest full of biters and attacking two people with guns trained on his head weren't exactly smart moves) but that's just how Merle rolls, and as long as the writers keep him consistent we should all just eat some popcorn and let him go as crazy as he wants.

Taking Glenn and Maggie hostage and bringing them to Woodbury catapulted the story into the next gear, but for all of Merle's entertaining theatrics (tattlers stay in the woods, Neil!), we were left with the feeling that not much else happened. Ditto goes for Andrea and The Governor, who spent the hour yapping and flirting their way into bed. It's not easy seeing Andrea engage in adult wrestling with the man we know keeps heads in tanks because a) Andrea is fine and we want to hit that for ourselves and b) it just seems so, I dunno, irresponsible and dumb? But again, this is Andrea. The woman can't wait to move her panties to the side in the presence of powerful and mysterious assholes, and we all know this can only end badly.

Huge, important things happened in "Hounded," but they happened in largely unexciting ways. We may be seeing the strains of The Walking Dead's expandsion to a 16-episode season as things move forward at a slower pace. But at least things are in place and the forecast calls for a shitstorm.



NOTES

– I imagine Rick seeing Michonne just walking around among zombies falls somewhere between seeing Bigfoot and a unicorn. Rick's mind = blown. And how badass was it that she delivered the baby formula? Eat it, Pink Dot!

– How did Neil go from being a pants-peeing scaredy cat to WE MUST HUNT HER DOWN IN THE WOODS so fast? I can't say that I'll miss him.

– Sooo... Carol was just hanging out in a room this whole time? Hopefully there will be more to the story than just, "I was hiding from zombies." Good to have her back, though!

– With Michonne now at the prison, does that mean we definitely won't get that horrific scene from the comic book?

– Will someone give Beth something to do please?

– Maggie, don't say "It's a great day." That's a jinx, don't you know that by now?

– Think of all the fun bitergrams you can send to your friends by following Michonne's "Go Back" lead: Lend me a hand, break a leg, use your head, etc. What fun!

Comments (144)
Submit
Sort: Latest | Popular
I love the name Daryl gave the baby... (Lil' A** Kicker)
LOL! ❤Daryl❤
Reply
Flag
❤Daryl❤
Reply
Flag
I like the name that Daryl gave the baby... (Lil' A** Kicker)
LOL!
Reply
Flag
It was a smart move: when in doubt, used the zombiegram!
4
Reply
Flag
Great episode and loved Michonne's Bite-o-gram!
5
Reply
Flag
Yeah, that was gruesomely cool & for me was a great moment of rare comic relief.
Well, I laughed my ass off at least. Comedy is where ever you find it I s'pose ::shrug::
3
Reply
Flag
In the end of the last episode I was going crazy about the phone call but when I heard the second call the jig was up. The "something" Beth will be "doing" is gonna be Carl. In the past episodes Beth and Carl shared a fair number of smiley looks, to me that smells like future romance.
Reply
Flag
I laughed out loud when I saw that Michonne was carrying the pink basket! I like the way The Walking Dead has these little jokes from time to time - like when Daryl said he understood those guys in prison because he grew up with that kind - but would leave them on the road just the same.
1
Reply
Flag
Saywer would actually wonder off and get turned. Who do u think would fit best.....from LOST?
Reply
Flag
Question for those who read the grafic nobel... Do you still enjoy the show knowing what's going to happen?
I liked this episode a lot. Michone is so badass...she's now one of my favorite characters. Andrea should get a bullet in the brain...she's hot I'll give you that but so damn annoying. I bought the call for a couple of scenes...It was really hard to believe but with help of a little something called suspension of desbelief had me til Hershel picked up the phone. Sure, y'all ready knew it was an hallucination...so there's no fun in that. I do think it was rushed in some parts...Like the transition from this dude that got killed by Merle...way to damn fast as you point out. Also Daryl waiting outside that room to find this chick named....IDONTREMEMBERHERNAMERIGHTNOWSHESKINDAANNOYINGANDDIDNOTHINGBUTCOMPLAININTHEENTIRESHOWANDWHENSHECOULDHAVEBEENHELPFULDELIVERINGTHEBABYGOTLOST was kinda out of the blue.

The crew is getting smaller every episode -.- I guess next season will get a couple of new additions...
1
Reply
Flag
Yeah well ur annoying too retarded, we didn't need a speech. Andrea has been through some tough 💩 (sh*t).

Great now everyone's gonna start blamin me for postin
"hate comments"... *sighs and rolls eyes*
Nuttin new...
Reply
Flag
My answer to your question is yes, I read the series and enjoy the show even though I know what's going to happen. It's no different than watching some other show or movie that's based on any given novel I've read. Where it IS fundamentally different is the style of enjoyment that comes out of it. When I watch the show, my enjoyment doesn't come from wondering "OMG! What's going to happen next!?" It comes from seeing how they handle the adaptation of the story & characters onto the screen. (...but there are enough differences 'tween the two that I DO occasionally have some OMG moments anyway.)
The old saying "The book is better than the movie." applies here, but that doesn't diminish the show's coolness, it's just a different type of cool.
I remember during the 1st season hoping to myself that the show survives long enough to get to the prison & the Gov...& now that it's playing out already, I'm lovin' it hardcore geek-style.
Funny thing too: As cool as the show is now, it's nowhere near as cool as it's going to get later in the future...but it ain't about having a map & knowing the destination anyway. It's all about the roadtrip itself, y'know?
More +
Reply
Flag
I for once I don't think I ever view a movie about a book I read...The only exception that I can think of is The Lord of The Rings. I did read Harry Potter for example...didn't even finish to watch the first movie. It's just so damn annoying knowing how it will end. I'm a spoiler free guy, I hate spoilers, I commit to watching a tv show or reading the comic/manga/book, almost never both and if I do I watch the movie first and then I read the book.

IDK...
Reply
Flag
I really enjoy watching the show even though I read the comics but the only issue is when there are great characters who've been reduced to pitiful impersonations of themselves. I thought Lori was bad but Andrea is a stupid bitch and I hate her.
Reply
Flag
Phone calls have been used since The Ring in 2000. Rick simply used it to resolve things with the dead instead of getting killed by his inner demons
1
Reply
Flag
Seems like many shows are on a hallucination binge right now. This episode was awesome, except for everything concerning the Governor and Andrea. And that weird kid with Merle. Michonne's sword techniques make me laugh. Jumping from a tree and beheading the guy was hilarious. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be perceived like that. But the 'GO BACK' was brilliant!

Please don't substitute Maggie for what happened to Michonne in the comic!! I'd be so angry!
2
Reply
Flag
Hallucination was uneffective for the viewers but effective por Rick in order to come back to life , I am just hoping they don't use this resource again anytime soon . Michonne and Merle were the highlights of this episode .
1
Reply
Flag
'Tis a good thing that Andrew Lincoln's Hugh Collinson character got killed in the first series of Strike Back because I think this is one the best roles he's ever had! And in a horror tv series go figure!
Yes, this felt like a chess game... pawns died right & left LOL!
Now, how about that phone therapy!!! And I spent a fortune with a shrink!!!!
Reply
Flag
So, at this point, we see in Woodbury (population 75-80 people tops according to Governor) that there is only a handful of soldiers. Let's say 10-15. Michonne killed some of them, others kill each other and the rest are useless in real combat.
I hope they don't show us a full-scale fight between Woodbury and Team Prison because it would be over within 30'' as portrayed in the show, Team Prison has Rick-Daryl-2 Inmates (one gigantic) and even little Carl is more experienced in combat and now they add Michonne, it's like Miami Heat getting LBJ after Bosh-Wade. The othe camp now has the Governor, Merl and maybe Andrea and a blind (obviously) archer-girl
1
Reply
Flag
I totally agree! when the bizarro-glenn and other dudes died I was like, how many 'warriors' do they have? (and the one dude that suddenly changed from wimpy kid into a super-killer after one zombie kill.. well if all the woodbury people are like that then ok..)
Reply
Flag
"With Michonne now at the prison, does that mean we definitely won't get that horrific scene from the comic book?"
Can someone tell me what happened in the comic book - don't hate me but I didn't read the comics
1
Reply
Flag
SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER
... she gets raped by the Governor. A lot.
SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER
1
Reply
Flag
Oh ok - thanks
Maybe that was a bit violent for TV
1
Reply
Flag
I will not be surprised if Maggie gets the treatment Michonne did in the comic book.
1
Reply
Flag
Exactly what I was thinking, specially since we're so emotionally attached to Maggie, Glen and their relationship
Reply
Flag
This comment has been removed.
Reply
Flag
Yeah, that would be a kick in the nuts. A good television-kick in the nuts, but still a kick in the nuts!
Reply
Flag
I think the hallucinations are important they either show regrets, passion or simply a meld of them both. It simply gives an insight into the character, the real truth about them. There is a need for characters to have depth to them, for it strengthens the story line and it humanises them even more. Besides TV is the media that embellish things. I have read the comics and the comic/book is always better than the picture. What can be said and done in comics/books is limitless and time is far more flexible in comics/books so I never compare them to the TV show/movie.

The characters this season are developing nicely and like the comic they are not being rushed, time is taken to develop them. We see their rawness, mistakes, regrets, fear, craziness, lack of judgment, courage… and so on, thus we can say that this person is a frakkin idiot meaning Andrea ahhahahaha…. Michonne is wow, scary and sexy at the same time. ‘Me’ thinks Rick, Michonne and Daryl will be a psychotic combination. I pity the Governor ahahahahaah…
Reply
Flag
"Will someone give Beth something to do please?"

NOT CARL!!! (they are seriously cute, but way too young to play "Andrea & the Governor" IMO).
5
Reply
Flag
"Sooo... Carol was just hanging out in a room this whole time?"

Question for me is: Did Daryl really take 10 minutes to gather the nerve to spot in her room? Becuase, seriously, that man has feelings for her!
Reply
Flag
It seems that he knew she was in there, but didn't know what state she was in...
2
Reply
Flag
If you love someone, set them free in a zombie apocalypse. If they come back they are yours. If they come back to life, they are still yours if you need to gather the nerve to kill them.
Reply
Flag
This comment has been removed.
Reply
Flag
This comment has been removed.
Reply
Flag
I'm worried the horrific scene from the comic that involves Michonne will instead involve Maggie. That would destroy me!
3
Reply
Flag
I'll kill all of them if that happens to my beloved Maggie!!
Reply
Flag
Please... don't do this to Maggie!! Please...
Reply
Flag
heck Yeah!, Sawyer!!
1
Reply
Flag
Andrea's side-butt FTW
2
Reply
Flag
agree, ppl might hate on Andrea over here but she's still hot :))
Reply
Flag
I believe we were told last season that Beth is 16. Frankly though, even if she was 20...well, the world has changed. When society has gone and your potential partners are severely limited a 10 year age gap wouldn't be an issue I suspect.
Reply
Flag
isn't Beth a teen or something in the show? if she's in her twenties her 'thing' with Carl would be even sicker than it is now.
Reply
Flag
Zorroboy, the actress is 27. The character probably is probably in her 20's. (Wasn't the young man who died on the farm her husband?)
Reply
Flag
Im not sure what her age is, but is it wrong to say that beth is also hot. better than andrea
Reply
Flag
I think that if they changed things from the comics it would be just to surprise the comic readers but alot of people who watch The Walking Dead don't read the comics so i don't know what they're doing with the whole Michone/Maggie thing ???
Reply
Flag
Is it just me??

I haven't read the comics. At the end of last season we found out about this Michone
character with her sword and 2 zombie friends and I thought oh man she is gonna be badass amazing. So far this season besides some pretty cool zombie kills shes been a pretty crappy character. Her acting is pretty bad with very little dialouge thus far and she just is pissed. I expected to find out more of a back story with the 2 zombies on chains, weren't they supposed to be here boyfriend or family?? But instead she killed them within minutes and that was it. I know they explained it as a cover but common that was lame. Although being smarter then Andrea she so far has been a BIG letdown
1
Reply
Flag
I'll second what prowly said. I'm personally a big fan of non-dialogue acting. In the film world it's known to be one of the toughest things to pull off as an actor. You really have to look at characters that say little. It's all in their body language, their facial expressions, and their reactions; whether they be dramatic or subtle, sensible or unexplained. I've held back on reading ahead in the comics because I don't want to know what happens next, but I have read a decent amount Michonne, and her character has layers--they've just yet to be added. Right now she's playing the mysterious one. I'm sure we'll eventually find out more about her and soon enough her quiet, subtle acting/character will mirror her personality/past experiences. If there's anything I've gathered just from watching her so far, her gut is always right, she does what she has to and holds in the emotion, and she's a persevering fighter. Someone like that must have quite the back story.
Reply
Flag
Brother and boyfriend. In the comics, she ends up beheading them as soon as she meets up with Rick's group because she didn't need their protection anymore, and thus released them, in a sense.
She's pretty traumatized, so you shouldn't expect to see her openly dishing about her life until after she's had time to settle in with the group and get comfortable. In any case, don't blame the actress--Michonne's supposed to be angry, quiet, and distrusting. The character doesn't have much range at this point, but she's doing a good job.

TL;DR version: it's just you.
1
Reply
Flag
I never thought of that.It would be cool.
Reply
Flag
I don't know, they might briefly cover it in a flashback like when they showed Lori and Shane meeting Carol's family for the first time. Or they could devote the season 4 webisodes to them. I think that would be cool.
Reply
Flag
Not that its important, i dont think they are going to explane that in the series
Reply
Flag
You're right, ZB. My bad.
Reply
Flag
It wasn't her brother and boyfriend, it was her boyfriend and his friend. if i remember right
1
Reply
Flag
I really liked the episode for various reasons.

I really enjoyed the phone calls Rick was having, and suspected from the beginning that he was taking a trip to crazy town, so there was nothing disappointing about it to me. I liked how accommodating Hersh was about it. He checked the phone line, and clearly understood what was going down, but he was incredibly understanding, and even offered to wait with Rick. How great was it that they brought Amy, Jim, Jacqui, and Lori back like that? I really hope the voices were done by the original actors. I guess it would have been a little too obvious had Sophia gotten on the phone, but I'm still disappointed she didn't make a cameo. Ditto on Shane.

Okay, so I'm a little mad at Glenn, Daryl, and Rick for just assuming Carol was killed even though there was no evidence of her attack. It's interesting that she had the strength to keep pushing the door (even though there were zombies out there. Wtf, Carol?) but couldn't manage to call out at all when she heard Daryl, Carl, and T-Dog2 talking right outside.

I couldn't tell if Daryl and Carl were commiserating/bonding or if Carl just pretty much went "Your mom died? I had to kill mine. STFU, I win."

Guys, did you notice how they killed Bizarro Glenn just in time to bring Glenn to Woodsbury? Coincidence?

I had some high hopes for Merle. Once the first two dudes were killed, I figured he'd just off Neil and go in search of his brother. "Here's my 'permission,' Gov!!"

Speaking of Neil, what a great character. I started out liking him for figuring out the puzzle, and hoping he'd survive when he figuratively crapped his pants over the message, and then just completely writing him off as soon as he started talking back to Merle. Time of Death: "I'm not going to lie to Governor." Damn, dude. Talk about Darwin award.

How will things play out between Merle and Daryl? Will Merle survive to see season 4?

Oh, Andrea. You are truly my least favorite character this season. Here's hoping you redeem yourself soon.

And finally, congratulations to Axel and T-Dog2 on being accepted by the group. Nothing like a zombie attack to ingratiate yourself with the new group. T-Dog2, though? You need to dial it back a little, man. You've already had more lines than T-Dog had in all of season 2. Just... shh, okay? Quit calling attention to yourself, man. It won't end well.
More+
2
Reply
Flag
The original actors that played Amy, Jim, Jacqui, and Lori were credited at the end, & on the Talking Dead aftershow Andrew Lincoln said he had them all call in.

Pretty cool of them to do it.
Reply
Flag
Absolutely! My friend had confirmed Sarah Wayne Callies through the Talking Dead, but I guess he missed the part about the other actors.

Oh, and I guess IronE was there too!! He was the silence!!!
3
Reply
Flag
The bitergram was epic. Started the episode off great and gave crazy Merle a reason to be himself. The rest of the episode was ok. It was by far no episode four of this season, but good none-the-less. I like too like the name Shania, brings back some good memories of her dad even if we hated him. Hallucinations rarely work, unless you're like Steven Speilberg or on his level, you should try things like that that take expertise and great actors. I am exceptionally happy that Rick has now realized that he has kids to take care of whether they're blood relatives or not. Come on Rick get back to leading the group.
Michonne, my hommie, love this chic from the time they introduced her character to current, I can't say that about many characters.
You are correct on b) irresponsible and dumb, but a)naw she is not hot, Maggie's more attractive than Andrea. I still just can't stand Andrea and as they said on the talking dead, at this point, I'd rather see Carol and Daryl than to see Andrea and the Governor get down again.
A better hallucination woulda been to have Maury on the phone than dead characters, but hey....
More+
Reply
Flag
Why did they dig a grave for Carol last week if they were going to fill it in again without the body.
Reply
Flag
It seems the guys had absolutely no faith in her, and just assumed they'd find a body. Someone else suggested that they went through the motions as a form of acknowledgement for the person. Symbolism and whatnot.
Reply
Flag
Pretty good episode I think, but the scenes with Rick were a complete waste of time. I will never understand why writers are so fond of hallucinations. Their only purpose here was to delay Michonne's arrival to the prison to the end of the episode. It would have been much better to have her arrive earlier, and get her introduction to the group out of the way in this episode.
Reply
Flag
I disagree, granted i`m not a big fan of the hallucinations either but in this case it was a wasy to give Rick closure. Remember he and Lori were on bad terms whren she died and he always fell guilty for that. So he needed a chance to apologise and move on.
Reply
Flag
There has been a cluster of hallucination episodes lately. I just saw the latest Revolution. It wasted about half the time on hallucinations. Two weeks ago Last Resort did something similar.
Reply
Flag
Yes, it seems wrong. I think the hallucination episode of Last Resort was extremely bad, but as a whole, the show is far better than Revolution. I don't think the acting is a major problem though. It's the writing. It's like none of the writers have any talent or skill.
Reply
Flag
yet last resort gets cancelled but revolution, with its bad acting, gets to stay
4
Reply
Flag
So i knew the phone call was a hullicination b/c of the comics... but i wanted them to add to it by that after he snapped out it that the zombie with the big belly was actually zombie Lori that he stabbed a bunch a times! Like Carl lied and didnt really shoot her... and the zombie's big belly was Lori's preggers belly! that would've been really interesting...
OH man Ive been reading yall's comments, and I really hope that what happens to Michonne in the comics doesnt happen to Maggie! I think Michonne could mentally handle it better... NOT MY MAGGIE!!!
Reply
Flag
Pretty cool episode. I hated Andrea a bit more than Lori for most of last season, and now I remember why. She's an idiot. Most of this episode was kind of boring, but Merle kidnapping Glenn and Maggie is an awesome plot point. I haven't read the comics so I don't know potential future plots, so to me, having Rick's camp + Michonne square off with The Governor's camp sounds pretty awesome to me. Daryl's going to be fun to watch, struggling with the love he still has for his brother and the connections he's made with Glenn, Maggie, and the rest of the crew. I hope Andrea decides to defend the Governor and Michonne cuts her head off.
4
Reply
Flag
As far as Daryl confronting Merle goes -I would dearly love to see him buck expectations - both ours and Merle's - by just cooly killing him without any waiting for chat or angst. It would be cool to see him realise without much inner debate that his group , not Merle, are his family now and that Merle is a threat to them that needs to be taken out. Merle's face would be a picture, I suspect,
Reply
Flag
What? No Fringe review?!?!
1
Reply
Flag
Fringe is still on?
Reply
Flag
Final Season
1
Reply
Flag
I agree with your view on hallucinations. I am not really that big of a fan and can't really think of a time where I really enjoyed the use of one. While much may not have actually happened in this episode, I did enjoy it while watching it.
If they kill Glenn or Maggie I will be pissed though. Especially Glenn, he is awesome and I have loved him since the first episode, however if they kill Maggie Glen will be sad and I don't really want to see that. I like her too though.
Michonne just walking with the walkers was awesome though. Rick looked bewildered and Michonne became even more bad ass.
1
Reply
Flag
If Glenn dies by the hand of Merle and the Governor, I'll stop watching, yes Daryl is my fav even if his brother is racist, but Glenn is the MAN! It's only acceptable if Glenn dies by 'zombies' or some heroic scheme to get the group away from walkers
2
Reply
Flag
I want to read the comics, and if something happens to Glenn in the comics itz okay because it's not this character. Know where I can get the comics from?
Reply
Flag
Don't read the comics. Never read the comics.
Reply
Flag
This comment has been removed.
Reply
Flag
In the comics they drag that phone storyline for much longer. It worked fine there, especially because I was reading all of the comics, one after the other. In the TV show the scene didn't have the same impact, and I'm glad they got it over and done with in one episode. I mean, it's over and done, right? Rick is not going to carry around a dead phone just to have imaginary conversations with his dead wife when he knows this is just his imagination, right?

Anybody noticed the Governor making ///////// marks in his notebook when Andrea showed up? Crazy lunatic's pastime?

Merle really became faithful to the Governor and, on the other hand, is so ready to sell out his former friends. Well, he lost his hand because of some of them, but I didn't think he would blame Glenn for that. It was all Rick and T-Dog.

Since Merle lost his hand, should we assume Merle is the only character losing a hand in show? some of you know exactly what I'm talking about.

I know Andrea is completely deluded, but I actually thought Andrea and Philip's "sane half" was actually a good match and they looked so nice together. You see, TV Andrea has nothing to do with comics Andrea, and neither does the Governor. But somehow I think when Andrea learns about the Governor's dark side, that will be a deal breaker.

I love that we can't be sure what happens in the comics will happen in the show, and some things we are already sure won't happen. But based on everything presented in the show and the comics so far, I really fear for Glenn and Maggie's safety in the next chapters.

That Woodbury Girl-with-the-Bow seemed like the worst shot ever: she missed two shots!
More+
Reply
Flag
Hah. I liked your 'on the other hand' comment. Merle and other hands...
Reply
Flag
In the comic the phone story happened much later on. They shouldn't have done it so soon in the series, i think thats why it didn't work to well.
1
Reply
Flag
I must say prowly, it is good to be able to discuss the difference and possibilties between the series and the comic. i got all the guys at work on to the walking dead series, but none of them have ever read the comics, so i just spoil it for them.

I told them about the governors daughter and the phone calls the week before it happened not expecting it to be in the series, my bad
Reply
Flag
Sure, I can see that... but as you said, I think losing Lori and Judith was the biggest factor. I think if they did it later, it would cheapen his relationship with his wife if he managed to keep it together then, but lost it later. Anyway, I guess we should just agree to disagree on the timing of Rick's visit to crazy town. :)
Reply
Flag
Prowly. I think it was also rick choosing to stay and fight for the prison while everyone else went back to the farm that contributed to him loosing his mind. i know lori and judiths death were the biggest factor.
1
Reply
Flag
Lori's death was the trigger in the comics, so it pretty much had to happen now or else they'd have to kill Carl in order to justify it later. Blame all of the Lori haters who were calling for her death these past two years.
1
Reply
Flag
If they waited to do it until it happened in the comics, you're talking about waiting another two seasons minimum.

I think they decided to move it up to show what kind of fragile mind state Rick is in, having just lost his wife.
Reply
Flag
I completely agree, I do not like hallucinations and those type of sequences on television or movie. So this episode wasn't one of my favorites, still good, I mean its Walking Dead. And I do not like The Governor, just too creepy for me. I did however really like the ending and see me loving the next episode, with Michonne showing up like that. Will probably be cringing for poor Glenn though.
Reply
Flag
They should name the baby Judith <3
1
Reply
Flag
I feel a Daryl/Carol relationship in the near future. May be the tie that really binds him to Rick's group instead of joining his brother...
6
Reply
Flag
I thought the scene with Daryl finding Carol's knife, and his reactions were just endearing. And finding Carol.. oh man I think I'm the only one that was really moved by that scene. In the beginning I thought please not sth between those two, but now it would be the cutest.
3
Reply
Flag
Merle will just kill Carol and some how blame it on Walkers in order to convince his bro. But yeah, it would be a good storyline
1
Reply
Flag
Beth had something to do, she stirred stuff....
And is it wrong that I kind of thought that they're prison block looked cosy all ckeaneed up like it was?
Reply
Flag
well if i was trying to go after glenn and maggie, the safe bet be walking up to the front wall with the girl shooting arrows, she couldn't hit s**t
2
Reply
Flag
That was almost funny after she boasted about what an awesome shot she was.
3
Reply
Flag
hah, kinda laughed there. she would totally panic in a real life situation with a zombie in front of her. Unlike Daryl. She gonna get eaten y'all. and we're gonna laugh about it.
1
Reply
Flag
Maybe they laughed them selves to death. Or when she aimed for the dad, she missed him and hit her brother.
2
Reply
Flag
"You know Hawkeye and Green Arrow? I'm better. Watch this!!"

miss

miss by a mile

(Andrea goes out and kills it herself)

"OMG I HADS IT!!"

How the hell did that kid manage to kill her zombified dad and brother? Apparently, not with a bow.
4
Reply
Flag
Obviously no one was on the phone as per the old man's look and quick departure to leave Rick alone. The first call was from Amy ( dead ) and Rick didn't answer a question that was asked...and she hung up. The second call was again Amy and then Shane was the person ( ghost ) asking repeatedly if Rick had killed anyone, and whomever else he had killed after admitting to one and why... then the question about the baby and Lori.... all the things he didn't want to talk about was being posed by the subconscious "ghosts" of what he didn't want to face. Then Lori... the last voice.
1
Reply
Flag
Wasn't bad. But wasn't that great. The only issue that I really have was that if the little town that Glenn and Maggie and Michone and Merle were in. If they are roughly in the same area of operations so to speak. Wouldn't the town have already been picked over by the Governor's town already.
Reply
Flag
Merle said that they were close to something called "the red zone", which apparently means certain death if you enter it. So they may prefer to send looters in other directions.
Reply
Flag
I thought they were talking about the herd of walkers when they referred to the "red zone". I think at the start of this season Rick's group had a map with markings on it where the herd was following them?
Reply
Flag
Did they trim the thread sizes? I could have sworn we could do 1 or 2 more branches before. Price to pay for notifications, I guess?

Mate: Your theory of the red zone would work for the Woodbury citizens, but not Merle's group. They are/were the Governor's lapdogs, which means they'd know what was and wasn't bullshit. Case in point: they were hunting Michonne, though everyone in town believes people are free to leave whenever they like. Similarly, they took part in the raid that resulted in the deaths of those military men a few episodes back. If the red zone didn't really exist, they wouldn't have mentioned amongst themselves. Besides, people aren't allowed over the wall, so having a fictional red zone doesn't really serve any purpose.
Reply
Flag
Perhaps. I am not sure what the "redzone" is being utilized as in their world. It can just be used in the town to keep people there. People are less likely to take their crap if their is no big boogey men out there. Or the "red zone" could be a giant horde. Either way, michone with a little gore on her and merle seemed to make it ok.
But good point, I kind of glossed over the red zone.
Reply
Flag
I thought that this reviewers comments about Andrea are just inappropriately crass.
1
Reply
Flag
Crass, yes. Inappropriate? Not in the least. He called it like it is.
1
Reply
Flag
And yet, totally accurctae. I've been saying on the forums they should raid a sex shop and loot her some toys so maybe she'll start thinking clearly. She's more driven by her hormones than the teenage boy on the show and she's a grown woman.
5
Reply
Flag
Please, pleaaase dont dont do to Maggie what they did to Michone in the comics , in dont think she could recover from that experience
1
Reply
Flag
What happened to her in the comics! I was wondering when I read the article haha
Reply
Flag
*SPOILERS*
The Gorvernor rapes her and tortures her several times , it was in front of Glenn too , so thats why im afraid that they do that to Maggie instead :(
Reply
Flag
Omg i was thinking The same thing!!!!
Reply
Flag
"...we were left with the feeling that not much else happened..." That sums up my feelings on this episode, just a filler episode to get things moving in the upcoming episodes. And the faux-hallucinations... well, I didn't bite on the cliff-hanger from last week, knew all along that the phone call was gonna be just Rick's delusional state of mind.
Also, was I the only one that had Henry Pollard (Adam Scott) in my mind saying his famous line from "Party Down" when Merle screamed at Michonne "we having fun yet?"
5
Reply
Flag
Oh lord, I had to pause the episode to give me time to stop laughing after he delivered that line.
1
Reply
Flag
Same here! I started laughing, which is not the common reaction when you're watching zombie-apocalypsis show.
Reply
Flag
I'll always associate that line with Scott's character in Party Down. What an awesome show that was.
1
Reply
Flag
True that! Loved Party Down! Anything from Rob Thomas, really!
Reply
Flag
Ha I was wondering if it was an homage or something! It seemed like such a weird thing for Merle to say.
1
Reply
Flag
Maybe Merle is a hardcore Party Down fan?
Reply
Flag
What about the hallucination scene in the Sopranos in season one where Tony hallucinates the rat?
Reply
Flag
I feel very bad for Maggie and Glenn. And not so much for Andrea. Really interesting to see how things unfold from here on. Even for the comic geeks it's impossible to make any predictions.
Hopefully all three survive this Woodsbury ordeal. Got right from the start of this season a bad feeling for Glenn, but pleaaase Maggie and Glen have to survive! For a little bit at least.
1
Reply
Flag
What if the voice WAS real but pretending to be Lori? Hell there must be more 'others'.
OWWW LOST! what a bad ending that was..
Reply
Flag
I knew those voices over the phone were familiar. Well at least Rick got some kind of closer with Lori even though it was all in his head. Andrea, Andrea, Andrea, you big dummy. And is it just me or does she get comfortable a little bit to easily. Anyway, what a dummy. When Merle said he was going to steal a ride, I was hoping he wasn't going to run into Maggie and Glenn but what do you know he does. Can't wait to see Daryl reaction to the news that a) is brother is alive and b) he kidnapped Maggie and Glenn. Speaking of Daryl, look who found Carol. Glad she isn't dead even though knew she wasn't.
1
Reply
Flag
ok, evryone is talking about the horrible scene for michonne and that know it could happen to maggie, please i need to know more!!
1
Reply
Flag
*SPOILERS*
The Gorvernor rapes her and tortures her several times , it was in front of Glenn too , so thats why im afraid that they do that to Maggie instead :(
Reply
Flag
Michonne could always go back to woodbury with rick when they try to rescue glenn. Alot that happened in the comic could still play out. Michonne gets raped, Glenn crys and Rick loses a part of his body.

I just can't imagine Andrea commiting these acts on the governor, its just not the same.
Reply
Flag
Maybe it'll be Andrea who gets revenge then. She'll be angry at the Governor and herself for being so stupid.
Reply
Flag
if it happens to Maggie instead, i don't think she has what it takes to get the same revenge on the Governor as Michonne does in the comic. That was even more graphic than the incident itself.
1
Reply
Flag
Read the comic.
Reply
Flag
where can you find it, send a link, I've been trying to find it
Reply
Flag
I can't wait to see what happens between Daryl and Merle. You know Daryl is NOT going to be cool with his brother kidnapping two members of his group and torturing them. There is going to definitely be an internal struggle for Daryl in coming to terms with who his brother has become and how to balance his attachment to the group. Daryl tries to act like he's an island but you can tell he truly cares for these people.
5
Reply
Flag
Season 3 finale... Daryl & Merle showdown.
5
Reply
Flag
PLEASE let them not make us wait for the season finale to make this happen..
2
Reply
Flag
Can. Not. WAIT.
4
Reply
Flag
There were quite a lot of tense scenes in this episode. Stand-off with Merle, opening the door to Carol, Michonne appearing at the prison. It was good, but I wish Andrea/Govenor wasn't happening.
3
Reply
Flag
Same! Any dexter fans feeling similar about the whole dex/hannah schpeal?
2
Reply
Flag
Same to both shows. Sex apparently really does sell, because there is no other reason to have either of these relationships/fbuddies courting's
Reply
Flag
Load More Comments

Like TV.com on Facebook