The Walking Dead "Knots Untie" Review: Starving for Motivation

The Walking Dead S06E11: "Knots Untie"

Is it possible for a show to get more intriguing and worse at the same time? Because I think The Walking Dead just did that in "Knots Untie." There were some great concepts at work here, most notably the notion that different "tribes" of survivors would have different things to offer in this wasteland, and diplomacy ruled over forced aggression. But there were also some notions that don't fall in line with what The Walking Dead is, like a new blossoming love triangle between characters that we hardly knew were together or had something simmering in the first place. And of course there was the usual stock of questionable decisions that will get everyone killed. Not that this inconsistency is anything surprising! 

It's becoming clear what this half of Season 6 is doing, and that's speeding through things as quickly as it can and leaving the little details behind. Maybe it's a reaction to the earlier complaints of the series when half a season went by without anything happening (just ditch the farm, Season 2 dudes), or maybe the show knows it needs to keep the pace up in order to hold onto its gaggle of viewers. 

Whatever it is, we seem to be in a cycle of things simply happening to happen in order to keep some momentum up. In the first episode of Season 6B, the mega-dangerous zombie-horde problem that was the driving issue for the eight previous episodes was solved by... sending every character out to kill the thousands of walkers in close-quarters combat with zero plan except "see zombie, kill zombie." In the second episode, Rick and Michonne's relationship busted out of the friendzone and into Hump City with little setup except whatever went on inside the heads of 'shipping fans. And in "Knots Untie," the idea of a food shortage was the spark that jumpstarted the inevitable clash between Rick's group and Negan (the as-of-yet-unseen Jeffrey Dean Morgan), this season's bad guy, glossing over more reasonable solutions than attacking some very ruthless dudes. 

There have been teases of a food shortage recently, most notably when Deanna and Spencer planned to ration out the Alexandria pantry and when Carol mentioned using substitutes for her casserole because the nearby Safeway was ransacked of all of the cream of celery, but for the most part, The Walking Dead has ignored basic survival ideas that didn't involve four walls or avoiding getting eaten. Yeah, we've seen Farmer Rick put a hoe to some asparagus (or whatever) outside the prison and Carl has stuffed his face with pudding, but for the most part, the idea of food has been out of sight, out of mind. Just don't worry about it, people!


Which is why we have to take their sudden level of starvation and just accept it, which was a bit harder than normal since it's the plot motivator for one of the worst decisions Rick has made in the series. New pal Jesus convinced Rick to check out his camp in hopes of trading supplies or services (which Maggie found out about the hard way), and what Rick saw was a goldmine of resources. Inside giant lumber walls were vegetable gardens, free-range chickens, and busy survivors all pitching in to build a commune called the Hilltop. Their leader was Gregory (Xander Berkeley), who wasted no time being one of the most despicable characters the series has ever introduced by drooling all over Maggie and requesting some of her "services" in exchange for some carrots. Ugh, this guy. Die please. 

But Gregory was a crafty sonofabitch who knew that because he held the veggies and poultry, he held the power. This was a very interesting idea; the idea that small communities are springing up all over, each with access to certain resources or advances in apocalyptic technology that could be used to barter for other things. It's a microcosm of the world today, or a zombified version of the popular "Civilization" game franchise. I'm into this, guys! This is logically how The Walking Dead progresses to the next step. But the hopes of this idea being an integral idea to the show kind of derailed rather quickly. 

After trying to get a piece of Maggie, Gregory didn't know what he wanted from Rick and his group, and we didn't have any time to think about that because some Hilltop members returned with word that Negan killed a few of their men and held one captive. Ethan, a mountain of a man who returned from talking to Negan, said the only way Negan would release his captive brother was if Ethan delivered a message to Gregory. Apparently that message was on the end of a knife, because Ethan stabbed Gregory in the gut and then all hell broke loose as Rick and his group struggled with Ethan and a few of his party. It ended as most of Rick's fights end, with Rick covered in someone else's blood and guns drawn and pointed. (His "What?" was priceless.) It was a sequence of people acting rashly like boneheads and without any nuance, but that's the speed we're moving at here, folks. But the fight was exactly what needed to happen in order to shift the balance of power. 

Jesus revealed that Hilltop had been handing half of all their resources—food, medicine, and more—to Negan in exchange for peace. Negan's essentially a schoolyard bully or a mobster, visiting locals while cracking his knuckles and saying, "It would be a shame if, uhhh, something were to happen to this place" and taking payment for his non-action. That's when Rick said that he and his group would kill Negan and save Ethan's brother in exchange for food, medicine, and whatever else Hilltop had to offer. 

Look, Rick's decision is great for us. I mean, we all want to see a big, bloody fight, that's why we watch the show. But does Rick think he and his group are guns for hire now? Is their greatest asset their ability to beat some ass without remorse? Is it really a good idea to blindly promise a victory against a group that relies only on killing other people and taking their stuff as a means of survival? Despite what we saw on the road when Daryl did the "Say hello to my little friend" thing to Negan's gang of bikers, they're probably pretty good at killing! If it was a group of Girl Scouts that were messing with Hilltop, then sure, go beat 'em down. But Negan and his biker buddies? How many RPGs does Daryl have left? Not enough.

After being so skeptical about things in the first half of Season 6, Rick's just a "whatever, dude" dude now. He jumped in bed with Michonne, and now he's walking some of his pals into certain death (if the show sticks to the page, comic readers and those who've read the many spoilers on the web know what I mean) instead of, I don't know, giving farming another shot? I know this is the boring buzzkill approach to watching the show, to comb through the details, but it all seems a little reckless. They've only had a secure Alexandria for a couple weeks, but now Rick is ready to get back in the blood for some kale. Look, I'm not saying food isn't important, I'm just saying they've survived this long somehow and some of that had to do with the fact that they didn't go marching blindly into fights with thugs. And hey, if he wanted to kill someone for some food, he could have easily wiped out Hilltop since they only have pointy sticks as defense. Just sayin'. This is the kind of decision that will power another Rick personality change when someone dies because of his choices. 

Elsewhere, Abraham (Michael Cudlitz) wrestled with his conscience and his heart as he found himself caught between his current squeeze Rosita (Christian Serratos) and his crush Sasha (Sonequa Martin-Green). This is a storyline that's... not that interesting. Again, sorry 'shippers, but no. We're still scratching our heads from Richonne and now we have this to deal with. It's not that relationships aren't important on television, it's that The Walking Dead doesn't do them well enough to get us to care about them, and though "Knots Untie" tried to tie the idea of coupling into rebuilding civilization, there wasn't a previously established backbone to Abraham and Rosita's relationship to leave us concerned about his longing for Sasha. If The Walking Dead wants to explore the hearts of men, I'd prefer if it did by showing a zombie literally eating a man's heart out of his chest. 

"Knots Untie" did what it needed to—Rick is moving headfirst into Negan's orbit and they'll have it out. But it was a little clunky getting there as if the episode just wanted to get it over with. The Walking Dead can certainly justify the means if the end is as explosive as I think it can be, but I'd feel a lot better if the journey there was more fun. 



FESTERING BITEMARKS

– Jesus said that Gregory was a good leader and that everyone liked him. WHAT? Please, no one liked that foul man. 

– Maggie on Rick's plan: "It's gonna cost us something." Now THAT's some foreshadowing. 

– Carl on Richonne: "It's cool." That's all he had to say. Kids these days, right?

– If I'm concerned that I might be walking into a trap set by a guy who recently showed himself to be untrustworthy because he stole a truck, I'm not leaving him outside with only the pregnant woman while the rest of the group goes in to a sketchy building. Poor Maggie! Glenn was just like, "Later! Be back, xoxoxo." 

– Abraham to Glenn, regarding baby batter: "When you were pouring the Bisquick, were you trying to make pancakes?" Well said, sir.

– Jesus: "We're on the same side, the living side." THIS! Why does the zombie apocalypse spawn so many assholes?

– Ha ha, that lady punched Rick in the face good. Where's the .GIF?  

– The publicity photos were particularly crummy this week. I'll update this story with real photos later. I promise this.


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Mar 03, 2016
So, Negan takes half of everything from the Hilltop in exchange for not attacking them, pretty much like a mobster, as Tim put it.
And Maggie's proposal to their leader was: we will take half of everything from you in exchange for preventing Negan from attacking you. And these are the good guys? What happened to the boring speeches at the farm and countless hours discussing morality in the new world? So much for cooperation and mutual help, Maggie!
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Mar 02, 2016
wish I woke up next to Rosita!
"When you were pouring the Bisquick are you trying to make pancakes?" might be my favorite Abraham line yet!
"Good gracious ignatius."
Rick is a beast!
"These dicks just got a good story. Boogeyman, he ain't shit."
"We want food, medicine and one of dem cows."
Xander Berkeley was a great villain on NIkitita!
Things are about to get hunky dunky!
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Mar 02, 2016
Uneven episode after last week midnight run riff still good action ,agree with the review above , I don't understand Rick motives with the whole getting a alliances with smaller commuinties seems out of place. Was'nt this the same Rick who left behind other survivors behind and he bargining with going to war with Neagan not knowing the numbers or tatics very lazy . Still its better then going to the city for Beth another sucide mission. I don't trust this Jesus I think he working for Neagan seeing as the Hilltop community leader got stabbed eaisly . A few deaths next week I expect with the whole Maggie and Glen sharing baby pics always a tender moment before the dread.
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Mar 02, 2016
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Jesus has beautiful eyes, but that's not a good enough reason to trust him, guys.
Not another RV! I thought we were past that!
Reminds you of someone? Someone with great arms who rocks sleeveless vests?
When your Dad sleeps with your BFF and says "It just happen." And also, yes it JUST happened. This romantic development still feels very sudden and strange to me.
This feels like a trap.
Rick Rescue Squad!!
I've missed Maggie and Glenn.
Please get that girl some prenatal supplements.
Oh the RV is broken/stuck? I'M SHOCKED! :|
How did Rick not notice this huge mudhole? Was he busy staring at Michonne again? Eyes on the road, dude!
Jesus has beautiful eyes, but he doesn't know our life or our story. He doesn't know where our trust issue come from. Trust? Nah, I'll keep my seim-auto thanks.
NO NO NO NO NO NO! That actor always plays a bad guy! A betrayer! That guy is one of the reasons I have trust issues! ABORT!
I wish Abraham would just not talk. Almost everything he says makes me nauseous.
I don't trust him. I don't trust him. I don't trust him. He doesn't have beautiful eyes!
The details? Like how you have a barn full of walkers? Or fish tanks full of walkers? Or cannibalistic tendencies? Are your details evil?
I don't think you're a nice guy. STOP CALLING HER HONEY!
This beard and this man-bun, though.
The man-bun went so wrong so fast.
Michonne defending her man.
Why aren't Jesus and his beautiful eyes the leader of this group. He's so calm and sensible.
Daryl ain't afraid of the Big Bad Wolf. I love his negotiating skills. "Will you hook us up?" I can picture little 1st grade Daryl on the play ground like "If I beat up your bullies, can I have half your lunch?"
Oh snap! Maggie is the Ambassador.
Glenn is so supportive.
"We're gonna get Craig back." Because Negan is messin with the wrong people.
Whoa! Michonne just touched Rick's butt!
Awwww! Daryl looking at a sonogram is my new favorite thing. Other than Daryl's arms and Jesus's eyes. Have I mentioned Jesus eyes?
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Mar 01, 2016
"Keystone Cops"! I still cannot get over the fact that a skilled and determined/focused group of survivors can lose a truck filled with necessary supplies while chasing around a stranger that stole their truck. The old Rick we know and love would have immediately solved the problem by terminating "Jesus". Now we are to believe that the group is going to attack a totally unknown enemy. "Seriously"!?
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Mar 01, 2016
Hey when Darryl looked at the ultrasound picture he ALMOST smiled! I've never seen him even come close. That's a win right there.
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Mar 01, 2016
After the episode finished all I had to say was - what a waste of time.

And what's with all the awful awful pairings, with no chemistry whatsoever getting it on? I so don't wanna see that. No I prefer blood and gore thanks.

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Mar 01, 2016
I'm with Tim that things are getting more intriguing and worse and the same time.

Sure, I look forward to the big confrontation with Negan. It'll be fun to watch, but I just don't care. All those Big Things we cared about in Season 6A -- Is Glenn Dead, how to survive mass zombies in Alexandria, what happens between Carol and Morgan, what about the Wolfman etc. -- melted away like a spring snow flurry.

Now we've got new things to worry about like they are really important -- food shortages! Gregory! Negan! Rick-Michonne! Abraham-Sasha! -- but those will resolve or not depending on how the writers want.

6A broke my ability to care about this show.
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Mar 01, 2016
It's been more than "a couple weeks". Greg Nicotero said it's been about 6-9 weeks since the wall was breached.
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Mar 01, 2016
I kinda feel like a lot of your issues would be addressed with a simple quanitity fixed to the timeskip. I personally got the impression that it was more than just a few weeks, which would go a ways to explaining the sudden "richonne" relationship, food shortage etc.

Also, lets be honest, killing others is really the only thing Rick's group is good at now.
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Mar 01, 2016
This was my favorite gif from the episode:


I love how Rick just walks on screen with a gun. Classic. Obviously they should have just taken everything from Hilltop and fought Negan on a full belly and with TWO bases but I guess I understand the civil approach too!

If anyone is interested, I review/recap the show every week and make original memes and gifs of each episode. Hopefully it makes you laugh: http://mikeydislikesit.com/the-walking-dead-knots-untie-review/

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Mar 02, 2016
And no talk aboutthose guards using spears instead of bows/arrows to protect the Hilltop walls.. that was soo stupid as well.
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Mar 01, 2016
Romantic and sexual relationships, people having babies... isn't it clear that the theme is about building a future? They haven't done much of that so far, so using it now to push on the settling note.
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Mar 01, 2016
Totally disagree.
As other posters have pointed out, Negan was a problem they would have to deal with sooner or later - preferably sooner and maintain the element of surprise.

I'm actually surprised people seem so surprised about Rick and Michone. I certainly don't think it came out of nowhere.
She's been bonding real close with Rick and Carl ever since the reunion after the prison and there have been instances where I've felt I've detected a bit of a vibe between them - and I'm not a "shipper", not in TWD.
I'm not opposed to romance or couples on the show, I love Glen and Maggie for instance.

Rick and Michone trust each other with their lives.
They think alike enough for them to work smoothly as a team but are emotionally different enough for them to set the other back on the right path when needed. They seem to share the same sense of humour, she gets along great with his son(and daughter too I would presume)they're physically attracted to each other and they've seen each other at their absolute worst already.
They've made it this far through Hell holding hands - why Wouldn't they fall for each other..?
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Mar 02, 2016
I wouldn't say the confrontation with Negan is inevitable, to be honest if I'd be in that situation I'd just cut my losses and move somewhere else. They don't have that many people with combat experience and even if they did, why risk it.

I am glad they're going about it this way though, since it's a TV series and all and I'm definitely not against some good action scenes.
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Mar 01, 2016
Yeah, I'm really confused as to how people didn't see it coming.
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Mar 01, 2016
Completely agree with you. The only thing surprising about Richpnne is that it took this long to happen and that so many people felt blindsided by it....how could you not see that coming?
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Mar 01, 2016
It's funny how we all watch the same show but see things differently. I'm not saying anyone else is wrong, but I didn't mind this episode.

I figured Rick brought his strongest fighters because he had already decided that they weren't leaving without food, even if they had to take it by force. Plus I think he was trying to intimidate them. He left Carol, Morgan, Rosita, Carl and few capable Alexandrians to protect the town, I don't see anything wrong there.

Agreeing to take on Negan is definitely a bit rash, but it wasn't Rick's idea it was Daryl's. Daryl killed almost 10 of Negan's men and is under the belief that they're only about 20 or so guys all together. They think he's(Negan) a bully not a threat. And after what they've dealt with, I think I can understand why they're a bit cocky, and desperate.

That love triangle. At first I thought the whole Abraham Sasha thing was ridiculous, and it definitely came out of left field. But it does make a bit of sense. I love Rosita as much as the next person, but I get it, they got together by chance, it's not like it's some epic love. Abraham's intrigued by Sasha, and now that he has choices he's asking himself what he really wants. That's not so difficult to understand.
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Feb 29, 2016
You couldn't drive around the giant mud puddle?
Bet you wish you had that grenade to use on Neegan you used to light that fire with a few episodes back.
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Feb 29, 2016

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Feb 29, 2016
I couldn’t help but notice how awfully pretty Jesus hair is. I mean the man really is a miracle worker not only can he outsmart and outfight Rick and Daryl and escape any makeshift prison but also keep his hair and beard perfectly trimmed, shampooed and blowdried throughout. Maybe he can give Daryl and the rest of the gang a few hygiene tips in addition to all the food and supplies

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Feb 29, 2016
No one should be surprised Maggie is having a Baby. Birth control by now is gone. Pills would be expired, has to be a shortage on condoms. Can not run to Walgreens. Surprised more women are not having babies.
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Mar 01, 2016
Condoms don't go bad for a few years and there wouldn't be a shortage cause, like, not many people boning during a zombie apocalypse and it's not like people put condoms very high up on their grocery lists when they're scavenging. Plus, not that difficult to pull out or keep track of menstrual cycles. Plenty of ways to avoid getting preggo and even if you did knock someone up, I'm sure you could find some pharmacy with some baby killer juice or plan b's to keep around.
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Mar 01, 2016
I will give you that we can count 7 days after menstrual cycles are safe, but pulling out does not work. The second you are in sperm is released in small amounts & the whole time you are doing it. Granted it is small amounts but you can still get prego...
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Feb 29, 2016
Well that was just bad. I mean bad on all counts.

Maggie and the tomatoes? You grew up on a farm, do you think it is feasible to drown your seeds? And use PVC pipe, you are literally surrounded by a damn forest. I am sure the PVC could be used someplace better.

jesus is apparently not just a magic figure in myth. Jesus the character is also magic, can slip ropes and pick locks. Great. Why not, then gets snuck up behind on by a teenager with one eye.

Then, in a brilliant show of forethought, and tactical planning. Rick, the moron, takes 5 of his best fighters with him and Jesus. Good idea, it isn't like they were just attacked by crazy people with W's carved in their head and they don't know how many more or out there, there group was just accosted by morons on motorcycles and they don't know how many of them are out there. But by all means take most of your best fighters with your dumbass.

Taking the fighters with them telegraphed that there was going to be a fight. This show really truly needs to write better.

Speaking of telegraphing, they should put a bigger sign on either Abraham, Rosita or Sasha getting killed. My guess is Abe because of the whole Negan thing and he couldn't even get a guy trying to choke him off of him.

Another single car accident. This, as well is a poor plot point that has been used time and time again. There has to be something else that can be utilized.

At what point in time when they meet and obvious scumbag like Gregory do they just bypass all of the bullshit and shoot them in the head and be done with it.

There is no way a small hilltop community would have that much food unless that food and other stuff is grown outside the wall and if it is then the wall is pointless because all of their stuff would either get stolen or ruined.

I see they didn't go back for the truck like they said they would. That truck had necessary rations that wouldn't all have been spoiled by being in the water.

Taking on Negan. It is a bad idea. The conflicts that Rick said they never had any problem with. That is easy for him to say because he keeps getting lucky and surviving despite being terrible at it. My guess is that they are going to half ass it like they usually do, lose a couple of people. Rick is going plan it, because he is the leader, despite never having done anything like this before. They are going to take the whole group which is a bad idea. It should be a small, light group with a QRF a mile out, utilize the RPG and whatever explosives that they have and their best long distance shooter that they have.

Either way, poor episode.
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Mar 01, 2016
As WallyAG mentioned, Jesus knew Carl was there. I was skeptical at first but think Jesus will be a good character for the show IF he can survive now that he's in alliance with Rick. He probably should have investigated Alexandria more closely to find out how many native Alexandrians are still alive since "the group" showed up. I have a feeling his Hilltop Colony will be a lot thinner by the time Rick is finished with them.

Frankly, I cannot wait until they invade Negan's compound. We know they are going to get caught like they did at Terminus, and I can't wait to see what they do to allow it to happen. I'm sure they will get stuck in the mud on the way or round a curve too fast and flip over. Of course when it happens, Jesus will conveniently lose his escape artist skills, and they will have lost all their guns in a lake or something. It's gonna be good!!!

But I don't want to see too many major character deaths--well maybe one or two would be okay--but I hope Daryl, Glenn, and Michonne survive and maybe Maggie but not looking forward to another baby in the fold.

When the season picked back up, I mentioned in a reply to you a project--I am involved in a podcast type thing about TWD and would welcome your perspective but not sure it could work even if you were interested.



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Mar 01, 2016
So Jesus in his infinite omniscience knew that Carl would appear behind him and not put a round into the head of a stranger, in a house that his sister sleeps in. That is a very large assumption to make. But to me that is just the writers appearing on screen again.

i agree that the Hilltop group will be a lot thinner, that is just the legacy of Rick at this point.

I hope that Negan's is good. I kind of felt let down with the way that everything with terminus ended. For the build up that they had, it was kind of pointless.

Pm me with the details of the podcast and we'll see what we can do.
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Mar 01, 2016
I think Jesus sensed a presence and saw him via peripheral vision. No, I don't think Jesus has divine powers but has keen senses.

Reports are that Negan himself may not appear until the season finale, but that is not confirmed. Also reports that 2 versions have been filmed--one with explicit language since Negan in the comics is known for his foul mouth. I am anxious to see what comes of this after all the Negan hype.

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Mar 01, 2016
But again, he can't assume that Carl wouldn't kill him. He looked around the town, he should have been able to tell that they had just went through some stuff and that intruders would have, should have really, been met with an automatic bullet in the head.

Why can't he have divine powers, Rick does. Rick can operate without food and knows no things like exhaustion and has his inexplicable ability to keep surviving. Why can jesus have some of that magic.
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Mar 01, 2016
Probably right about the tomatoes, didn't really pay attention to it

It doesn't take magic to slip ropes and pick locks, and I mean, it's not like these skills came out of nowhere. They were a pretty big part of Jesus's introduction. I don't know if Carl really got the drop on Jesus, or if Jesus just didn't care. I'm not sure what he would really do anyway, he doesn't want to beat up Rick's kid when he's trying to be diplomatic, and any sudden moves could set off Carl.

Of course he's going to take experienced people with him, he knows settlements are trouble. The 5 best though? Eh, I disagree. Daryl, Michonne, and Abraham are up there, but pregnant Maggie? Glenn is decent, but I don't know if I'd call him one of the best, he's good at not dying, but not necessarily the best at killing. As for the other stuff, it was recent for viewers, but not that recent for them. A lot of unspecified time has passed (at least several weeks, possibly a few months) and they've had no trouble. It's not like the town was defenseless either, a lot of the Alexandria rando's have become competent since then, and a lot of the main cast that was left behind is still experienced, like Carol, Morgan, Sasha, Rosita and umm, lesbian girl. I'm not the best with names.

A fight on the Walking Dead!? That's like saying the show has bad writing because it telegraphed there will be zombies. There's also barely any non fighter characters, I mean...it's the zombie apocalypse, and our main characters are a group of survivors. Even the less than experienced characters like Eugine and Gabriel have now fought their fair share of zombies.

Yeah, Abraham is probably dead. I mean, maybe Rosita or Sasha will be offed, but I doubt it. Usually it's the character that gets the focus gets offed, and his desire for a family seems to be dulling his fighting side. Even without delving into comic lore, things don't look good for him. Rosita feels too minor of a character for the writers to remember to kill off (I'd be more worried if she gets a focus episode) and while Sasha has gotten some attention, I feel like they want to build her up more, likely using Abraham's death as an arc or something.

Agreed with the car crashes. It's always really funny how many people crash with seemingly no reason besides just randomly serving off the road.

The stuff with Gregory just seemed like awful writing. The only reason I can think of that Rick saved him is because Maggie didn't tell him everything that went down.

It did seem way smaller than in the comics. I'm not sure how much food they actually had, presumably they could have raided a bunch of stuff after the fall on top of whatever they've grown and stuff. Honestly, I thought the town was visually lacking.

As others have pointed out, taking on Neegan isn't a bad idea, they know he'll be a threat at somepoint down the line, so why let him amass more power. Obviously things are going to go wrong, but the preview made it seem like they were at least trying to be smart about it. Given the writing quality of TWD, who knows what the end result will be.

Definitely wasn't the strong episode, more meh than anything else. Felt like a lot of filler with the rescue of Jesus's buddies, and the Gregory stuff was lackluster. But a lot of the issues you raised weren't really issues or more just minor nitpicks.
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Mar 02, 2016
Yeah, if Rick hadn't saved Gregory - if Gregory had died - I don't think it would have been difficult for Rick to establish himself as the natural leader of the Hilltop Community too. Hilltop and Alexandria would have become allies and worked together, no need for negotiations or deals.
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Feb 29, 2016
After the citizens came out of their homes to fight the walker horde, Rick feels like the citizens can protect the town. Sasha, Rosita, Stewart and the gay couple, can not remember their names and a few others are still there. Not just Carol, Morgan and Carl. Plus I use pipe in my garden. It does not rot or bend with the weight of veg. I will give you how wet the ground was.
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Mar 01, 2016
Killing zombies isn't the same as taking on a group of individuals motivated to deprive you of your stuff and possibly your life. Rick does not delegate well. Two of the better ones should have gone to the meet. With one following as a backup. Two fighters with one or two of the shlubs should have gone after the truck. That is the number they went with and you cover all bases.

Actually he should have gone after the truck first, because then they would have had more of a bargaining chip other than their hilarious ability to luck their way out of confrontations when negotiating with Gregory, plus the two guys that could actually fight wouldn't be dead or injured, Gregory would be dead, because you can't tell me he isn't going to double-cross them. Then, once you find out about Negan, you have more fighters, and two to three people that know the layout of his compound and you are able to operate while you are nourished, and have a better tactical advantage.

As for the PVC, I would think that it would be better served to create a drip watering system rather than tomato stands.
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Feb 29, 2016
My thoughts exactly on how utterly dumb it was that all of 'em just up and left Alexandria unprotected.
Yeah, even assuming that Carol, Morgan and Carl stayed back if either the Wolves or the Saviors were to attack, they'd be goners no question.

And correct me if I'm wrong but by all means was it not Daryl who proposed the idea of ending the Saviors and Neegan for "Food, medicine and one of 'em cows" ? Rick only practicly amended the idea with the ever genious "Confrontation's never been something we've had trouble with" line.
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Feb 29, 2016
i feel like gregory is the next governor , hate him already

michonne couldnt see carls face she was ashamed xD !

i hope glens death is not what they meant when maggie said its gonna cost us

btw WHERE is carol *_* !!
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Feb 29, 2016
Tim is way the hell off on this one. Negan seems to be basically a feudal Lord with his men-at-arms extorting supplies from the peasants in the surrounding country. Sooner or later they will discover Alexanderia and then what? Does Rick's group surrender?That means they wind up as serfs feeding Negan's army. Negan will take their supplies and probably some of the women too. He would without a doubt confiscate all their weapons and leave the survivors defenseless.
Do they wait until they are discovered and then fight? Even if they won, their sanctuary would be destroyed just like the prison.
Do they run away. Run to where exactly? Their food situation would still be critical. Maggie would still be pregnant. What about the Alexanderians? Would they be able to survive?
Worst of all, everywhere they went there would always be another Woodbury, another Terminus, another gang of wolves, another Govenor, another Negan.
Rick made the right choice to fight while they have the advantage of surprise. They know where Negan is but he is still is unaware of Rick's group. The food Rick got is a bonus for something they would have to do anyway.



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Mar 02, 2016
Negan is probably somewhat aware of Rick's group though, since a part of his gang got RPG'd to hell .. wouldn't really seem like the work of a lone wanderer.

From a theoretical point of view I think there's enough places in the world to run to where you could comfortably live out the rest of your live without too much hassle.It just wouldn't make for a very interesting show.
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Feb 29, 2016
Prediction on who Negan will kill off the bat (pun intended)

He will choose Glenn (just like the comics) - but Abraham will take his place

I dunno whether I would like that because i want it to be a character that is universally liked (Daryl) - but there is just something very 'final' about Abraham lately - talking about settling down (with Sasha, not Rosita) and he just seems..... content

I thought this episode was MUCH better that last week's snooze fest
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Mar 01, 2016
I'm actually thinking he might find out, by the ultra-sound photo or somehow, that Maggie is pregnant, and beat her into certain miscarriage.

If Negan is as despicable as I've been lead to believe, I can just hear the line

"Well, I've never killed an unborn before, but there's always a first for everything":)

I think that would be, unexpected to most, while staying Somewhat true to the source, at the same time(spiritually at least.

I'm going to Hell, aren't I...?
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Mar 01, 2016
I can't see that happening - they didn't even kill Judith (when she dies in the comics)

The writers don't have the balls for that - plus, imagine the controversy it would cause with the social media pricks
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Mar 01, 2016
I think Glenn will die as in the comics. They are following the comics storyline, they even are setting up Maggie as leader and she will replace Gregory in the Hilltop
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Mar 01, 2016
But i think the several fake-outs of his death this season alone has already made many fans (including me) feel indifferent if/when he does eventually die

I think it needs to be someone completely unexpected and universally loved (Daryl) - he doesn't appear in the comics, he is a beloved character, and like Abraham, his arc seems 'complete'

Imagine if they followed the comics with the govenor's beheading of Tyreese? that's why they changed it to Herschel, so it had an emotional punch

I am not saying i don't care about Glenn but his fake-outs have been so irritating that if he is the first victim of Negan, it wouldn't really matter to me (and i can guarantee that other viewers would feel the same way)
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Feb 29, 2016
Abraham is one person who is funny one minute then you want to kill him the next. I have grown use to him so I think he will die this season. Love his out look on birth control. LOL
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Feb 29, 2016
To be honest, I think Rick can afford to be a little confident when it comes to dealing with assailants. Let's not forget he's been wasting a-holes since season 2. But of course I do know that this one won't be pretty...

I'm not so much worried about the Abraham love triangle because I don't think it's going anywhere.

Where is Morgan! This is his returning season! How dare you leave him out for two episodes straight!

Where is Carol! Isn't she the star of this show or something?

Where is Spencer and Aaron and Heath? How are we supposed to get attached to these people if we never see them?!

And last but certainly not least... WHERE IS DWIGHT AND HIS LADY FRIEND?!
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Feb 29, 2016
Not saying you're right or wrong about it as an episode of TV, but the last few episodes are setting things up just like in the graphic novel, albeit with some characters standing in for others. Going forward, I think you'll be pleased, and some inevitable deaths will take place (in different circumstances and maybe with different characters, of course) to slake your bloodlust.
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Feb 29, 2016
When there are 20-30 people left alive in the world even a ginger can find himself in a love triangle.
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Mar 02, 2016
the facial hair helps
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Feb 29, 2016
I think most people call the group's decision to go after Negan stupid, because they already know about Negan. From the standpoint of the group, he is just another asshole, who bullies farmers, that can't defend themselves. After all the shit, that happened in the past, they propably don't expact many people to be able to stand up to them.
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Feb 29, 2016
Completely agree - it this was an original story, the audience wouldn't be calling the group 'dumb'
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Feb 29, 2016
Meh. Few walkers being seen, never mind killed = more onus on the writers to come up with something else that's interesting. Their record is spotty to say the least, and not improved by suddenly and inexplicably deciding that Abraham should have a new crush. Is it follow the leader now? Who's next to look for a new hook-up? How about Gabriel?
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Feb 29, 2016
– Jesus: "We're on the same side, the living side." THIS! Why does the zombie apocalypse spawn so many assholes?

All the nice guys tried to help someone and that always ends badly. The arseholes who only think about themselves tend to survive for that reason.
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Feb 29, 2016
I think if that were generally true as a rule, we wouldn't have come as far as we have, as shitty as humans can be.
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Feb 29, 2016
I know somebody already posted this but i added some slo-mo for dramatic effect ;)

This can't happen too often in my opinion. Knock out with one blow? She got an excellent right hook. Lol.
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Mar 01, 2016
I know that actress, I am sure.
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Feb 29, 2016
Rick wasn't expecting it at all that's why he took so much force from it.
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Feb 29, 2016
Loved this. She has what it takes to be a fighter. Jesus keeps saying they have no fighters. Well, here is one in training...
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Feb 29, 2016
BTW, I vote for Rosita. She's a fighter and loyal. We haven't seen much of her and Abe since Eugene the Perv spied on them whilst they were doin' the big nasty many episodes ago. And in real life, our gal will freestyle for a cause. (Not a PETA fan, just a Rosita fan.)




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Feb 29, 2016
O___O yeeeeeeah Abrahams a dumbass for even considering the other chick. He could be boning this in the shower, but instead he wants to get with the constipated-faced hardass.
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Mar 02, 2016
This may be news for you, but 'hotness' is very low on the list of reasons why guys like one girl more than another
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Feb 29, 2016
This episode definitely jumped things ahead, glad we're finally seeing other groups that aren't total dicks, only partial dicks. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

Hilarious, I said the same thing when Rick once again got someone/something else's spooge all over his face, once again, again, redux. There has to be a crew member standing behind the camera with a big squirt bottle of gore in one hand, and head wetter in the other.

So ... Maggie was raised on a farm, but can't even grow a flower?

As stated, all the good fighters in one Walter Whitemobile?

Also funny, Rick driving into that sinkhole. Then Jesus stating, "Never mind, we're here." Camera pans up, there's a huge wall just ahead worthy of Game of Thrones. I guess Rick was focused on the road and didn't see it.

And Gregory the flaming douche. Another perfect casting for Xander Berkeley, making a fortune as the typecast wanker. {Warning to apocalypse leaders: Don't set yourself up as king by taking the master suite, it only adds to your douchiness.} That room should have been reserved for the sick/dying/elderly/wounded, etc.

Ever try to throw a spear? It's not for everyone.

I'm enthused to see the show move ahead, and amused how so many cry foul about spoilers. If you don't want spoilers, consider getting offline. :)

Remember the 3 B's. Bullets, beans, and bandaids.


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Like he was saying. Anyone dare to comment?

I'm always surprised that all the technology still works and they have generators including fuel to power them. It looks like a very old pc with a floppy drive. So i guess that thing must be at least 15 years old maybe older. The imac hastn't got a floppy drive since 1998.


I always have difficulties with finding the baby on ultrasound pictures. But that black spot in the bottom of the picture is its heart right? It was that thing throbbing so it must be.


Oh hell no Michonne. Don't even think about it. (sigh) So it's only a matter of time before Michonne gets pregnant with Rick's child.
Is it a good idea to have a baby during a zombie apocalypse? This is a matter of opinion but i have to go with NO. They could steal some condoms and/or birth control pills from a pharmacy (and some Xanax for me) but i never seen them being that smart.

They all look so happy. What can possibly go wrong?
Glass half full and all of that. LOL.

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Feb 29, 2016
Ya no I don't think Michonne is looking to have another kid, beside she's got Judith.
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Mar 01, 2016
But if she keeps doing it with Rick on a regular bases. You know what's going to happen...
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Mar 01, 2016
Maybe Abraham can spare some condom's. He doesn't need to always use two. ;)
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Feb 29, 2016
"– Jesus said that Gregory was a good leader and that everyone liked him. WHAT? Please, no one liked that foul man."

Yep, I'm sure everybody loves Gregory. Especially the ladies! He's a real catch. At least that's what Gregory's self-advertising must say to everybody.
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Mar 02, 2016
Wasn't there also something about if someone else was leader Gregory would be trouble or someone to worry about? I guess it's less drama if they let him think he's running things.
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Feb 29, 2016
Rick confronting Negan... on purpose? What could possibly go wrong? Absolutely nothing. His plan is perfect!

Truth be told, if Rick and his bunch were to rain Hilltop and get their suppplies by force, something out of character for them, that wqouldn't be much help, because Negan would go after the people in Alexandria pretty soon to restore his kind of "order." And sooner or later Negan will find Alexandria on his own, especially after the RPG incident. In a nutshell, confrontation seems to be inevitable. It's just a matter of choosing when, and how and where.
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Feb 29, 2016
And Negan probably would find Alexandria on the day that ALL of the fairly competent fighters/protectors are together on a road trip because that happens just about every day.
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Feb 29, 2016
I thought this was the best episode since we thought Glen was without a doubt, dead. Everything is making a little more sense, and therefore, it's more exciting. They should go after Negan. He obviously is operating very close to Alexandria... Daryl, Abraham, and Sasha know that first hand. He's a threat they will have to take out anyway, might as well get a bunch of food and supplies for it at the same time.
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Feb 29, 2016
Hmmm you make a decent argument I guess. I just felt like it was crazy to attack their compound, when you have a walled town as strong as you do.
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Feb 29, 2016
Don't forget what happened at the prison! They had a strong defensive position there too. It's true they killed the governor and destroyed his army but they took heavy casualties. Worse than that, their haven was destroyed and Rick's group wound up on the road again. If they wait to be attacked the same thing will happen!

They have a tactical advantage right now. Rick knows about Negan and where he is located. Negan does not know about Rick's group. That could change any day.
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Feb 29, 2016
@TimSpot
Here is your gif

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Feb 29, 2016
She's so skinny that I think her arm would break if she tried to punch Rick.
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Feb 29, 2016
she took a few strides, how could he not see that coming...
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Feb 29, 2016
Did anyone else think that after this episode where we were expecting nothing more than meeting the Hilltop that the show was going to basically laugh at Abraham's little love triangle and he was going to be a casualty? Maybe I was overtaken with all of the foreshadowing of other stuff, which, mind you, I was fine with. Other shows do it and even though it ends up not being your favorite episode, it usually signals the show has a clear plan. Which, okay, spoiler alert, apparently we are almost apeing the comics word for word and scene for scene at this point.......larger more spoiler point...




















Apparently people more familiar with the comics than I are a little concerned because what happened in this episode was like Episode or book 96 and Negan's introduction happens in 100 and for that to line up with the season finale, no one is super sure what the show is actually going to do different because there isn't a lot of comics material between what happened here and next. My thought of Abraham started when Sasha got herself replaced with Eugene that, geez, is it going to be a blood bath. And then when Rosita gave him that necklace I was like, ugh, are we going to maker her feel guilty on top of everything else? Like, I could see the group's hubris getting higher if they are minorly successful on their little Seal mission next week (like they think they kill Negan) that they start the trade with Hilltop and what happens happens, Rick retaliates underestimating and then they meet the real Negan.
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Feb 29, 2016
I agree that Rick's decision in this episode was completely and utterly stupid. Since when have they been guns for hire? And Rick knows full well that if they go up against a well armed group they WILL lose people, and they are likely to make enemies. And for food? Why not just have your damn people work their fields to get the food they need, while growing your own? It seems like a very contrived decision.
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Feb 29, 2016
If they're that hard up for food, why drive the truck full of food all around the countryside last week?
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Feb 29, 2016
AND why not take a dive, open the back, and salvage what canned and "waterproof" items that you could???
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Feb 29, 2016
That's a good point.
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Feb 29, 2016
ONCE AGAIN, TIM, It has not been just a couple of weeks since the zombies took down the walls. It has been over two months. That is a long time in a show that took half a season to show a period of week. In you spare time, I encourage you to go back and have a look at the opening to last week's episode. Look at how much the baby has grown. Also, when people talk for weeks on end about the lack of food, perhaps there is a lack of available food for them. That's not likely to go away until the crops begin to bear fruit (if they ever do). Rick and gang certainly know a lot about being hungry, and they are not eager to suffer like that again.

I found this episode to be a bit, blah. Not that I'm not interested in the Abraham/Sasha/Rosita triangle, something which has been brewing since the group first landed in Alexandria, btw. I just don't find the topic of trade that interesting.

Yes, the leader of the Hilltop group was a jerk, and kind of stupid. You have a mafia type (I did like that analogy) taking your food and killing people willy nilly, yet you are not interested in trading for ammunition? This group is like Alexandria on drugs.

Also, I don't like anything that moves Rick and company closer to Negan. I have said before and will say again, everything about that name bores me.
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Mar 02, 2016
I agree, the lack of food has been mentioned + why would they regularly drive out to raid for food if there was still enough at home? That food's running out has been clear to me for some time. What I'm wondering though is why the Alexandrians didn't start growing crops way before they met Rick, and if they all failed, why didn't Maggie the farm girl start teaching them how to grow crops as soon as they settled down in Alexandria. Why isn't growing food top priority?! (Ok top priority right after making sure the walls are up and strong)
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Mar 02, 2016
I can't answer the first question except that the Alexandrians were not the most practical people. I guess they figured as long as food was regularly available, they wouldn't sweat it. One of the first things Maggie did was talk to Deanna about planting food. I think they didn't have enough room within the walls and had to wait until the expansion was finished.
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Mar 02, 2016
Aha. Ok then.
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Feb 29, 2016
Tim doesn't take notice of this show unless people get massacred - he a prick
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Feb 29, 2016
I'm going to have to give you a thumbs up on that one. You are so astute.
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Feb 29, 2016
I think Rick is thinking about this from a potential view.


Because of the encounter with Negan's men, they already know they are just killers. And the wolves that attacked Alexandria are also part of Negan, right??


Instead of having to deal with them later, on their own terms, why not take the element of surprise and get a good deal out of it, bij bringing the fight to them.

Abraham's interest in Tara, not interesting. And besides, when you have someone like Rosita, why would you need another cookie??

Rick was epic again this episode, and people where afraid he would have gone soft lol.

I like the Jesus character, he's like Houdini.
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Feb 29, 2016
The Wolves weren't part of Negan's men.
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Mar 01, 2016
Aha ok well the wolves aside, the bikers where, and their encounter wasn't good.

So he knew it would be future trouble perhaps, don't know, well they need food :P.
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Feb 29, 2016
It's not Tara ( she's Libean;-) , Sasha is who you're thinking of. Also Abraham wants another cookie because he's a greedy s.o.b.:-/ What about Eugene? The local genius needs some lovin' too!
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Mar 01, 2016
Lol you are right sir, i meant Sasha xD.


Yeah Eugene needs some lovin' too i agree. And well he might come in handy with all his genius stuff.
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Feb 29, 2016
I'm gonna spend the next few weeks watching lots of hilarious cat videos to balance out the inevitable emotional turmoil from watching nice folks die on this show. Still suffering from the demise of Jesse.
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Feb 29, 2016
Sadly, this episode kind of bored me. Not nearly enough action.

I dunno, sometimes this show tries to sell you on certain things that just aren't convincing, but it zooms the characters around on the chessboard to accomodate where the writers want to take them, like Abraham's crush on Sasha. Maybe they should try getting us invested in the relationship that he already has with Rosita first instead?
However, everyone passing along the picture of Maggie and Glenn's baby's ultrasound was pretty cute. At the same time, though, it was mind-bogglingly stupid to bring a pregnant woman along at all into such an unknown situation. These people sometimes! Ugh.
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Feb 29, 2016
Man, that sequence of dialogue before the opening soundtrack "Your world's about to get a whole lot bigger" really drove home how good this season has been and is going to get. So far, we've only seen Alexandria as a community of survivors through Rick's Groups eyes, and I cannot wait to see other establishments, especially The Saviours. Haven't read the comics, but certainly know that Negan & the group is by far the worst villains ever encountered along with some of heart wrenching sh*t that will or may go down. However, even if Rick has no idea about this, it seems really stupid & frankly quite overconfident to go in head on. They've been seen in "Groups of 20", they are ruthless and armed, and you go in with 8 to take down a whole base. And that too while relying on one guy who seems like he could betray, and with the duplicity we have seen on the show, you'd think Rick would re-think? This seems like it'll be the start of War between Alexandria & the Saviours, and the chances of the former certainly do not look good in the short term (next episode) and the long term...Other than that decision, the episode was really exciting, in the way it introduced Jesus - a likeable good guy and Hiltop. Mostly all the character focus was on Abraham & Maggie/Glenn - both of which i foreshadowed more dread ahhh! The philosophical thoughts of Abraham from questioning bringing life into this world and his feelings for Sasha all seem to set up a tragic ending, just as he starts to adopt a happier attitude. Although...I thought the same thing in S6A and that didn't happen.
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Mar 02, 2016
Are they not even going to drive back to Alexandria with all the food first, BEFORE attacking Negan? Driving back, not only would they be able to make sure the food ends up where it should this time, but also, they could discuss whether it might be a good idea to leave the pregnant person back home, maybe take Carol instead? Maybe even to simply inform them what's going on? What if they fail and all die and the people back home have no idea what happened, and that they should expect an attack from a group called the Saviours soon.
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Feb 29, 2016
The most impressing thing to me is that the Hilltop plantation is a friggin' prop. That's one awesome prop for a TV show.

I agree with @maracusj1973 about the one-car accidents. Zombie Apocalypse survivors must be the worst drivers in the world. Not only that but they left Alexandria with all of their best fighters in ONE vehicle yet again. Suppose the RV had broken down as oft happens, or suppose they ran out of gas? They had a one-gallon can which would not do much good for the RV.

I like Jesus so far. He is sly and unruffled by Rick and Co's shenanigans. Maybe he should be the new leader.
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Feb 29, 2016
World's getting bigger! Lol, it was nice seeing another community that's relatively functional. I liked the look of it. The showdown part was great with Daryl breaking that dude's arm, Michonne taking down that chick who punched Rick, and of course Rick himself. I knew that anyone who was worried about Rick getting soft was jumping the gun. He may be happier now and a bit more willing to trust people, but he's still not going to hesitate to kill when it's necessary. But I don't think it's going to be that easy to take out the saviors, guys. :p

Glad to see Maggie taking on more of a prominent role. Abraham's a little too weird for me, though. :p

Rick: "What?" LOL.

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Feb 29, 2016
I may skip the next couple weeks to binge watch 3 in a row, since this POTENTIALLY intriguing arc is moving so slowly:-/ I'm just really indifferent about all things happening in the Walker apocalypse right now. Everyone doing dumb things, to move a slow plot along....I'm just....I can't. ..sigh, whatev's:-/
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Feb 29, 2016
As a non-comics reader - this was a great episode of The Walking Dead. I'm not gonna judge Abraham for his weird Sash obsession or why they won't just go back swim down into that POND and get some of the food from the truck - lots of that stuff was sealed water tight - whatever. Plot holes aside - I'm talkin bout totally changing the flow of the show in a way that moved everything forward - with a good amount of action, some great back and forth dialog between the characters - a good soundtrack for the new "town" - and some fun Negan talk too. It's too bad there are so many people who spoil the comic - to the point where most of us know where this is leading but - anyways I like these kind of eps even if Tim found it boring and tedious at times. 9/10.
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Yeah, i agree it's disappointing that viewers aren't going to be able to go into the Negan stuff with that same naivety as Rick and the crew because of people spoiling things. It would've brought it up a level if viewers were able to be on the same level as the flow of the story. Some of the suspense/surprise/wonder is going to be lost because of spoilers. I don't think it will ruin anything but it would've been cool to have no spoilers and not be expecting anything with Negan/Saviours like Rick and the crew is.
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Feb 29, 2016
Also - best part of whole ep:

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Feb 29, 2016
It made me chuckle - because we know Rick :)
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Feb 29, 2016
Is it possible to be 100% on board with Tim's reviews one episode and then totally disagree the next episode? Anyways, I thought this episode was fine.
*Nobody cares about the Sasha-Abraham-Rosita triangle.
Rick and Michonne. By no means do I consider myself a shipper and it did happen pretty fast. It was like BAM they're a couple. I was like wait, what?? However, they are literally perfect for each other. I wasn't blindsided by it because I felt writers have been dropping little hints since season 4. I feel like Carl had the perfect response when Rick told him. It's cool. What else needs to be said?
*TWD is never going to be Breaking Bad or Fargo Season 2. Sometimes you're just going to need to use you're imagination. Yes, food has never been a driving force, but last time I checked people need to eat. The only thing Rick's group can offer is their badassness. These people took out the Governor's group, Hershel's farm, the Wolves, the cannibals. They are guns for hire. Yes, this plot maybe wasn't executed the best but to be fair it was Daryl who said Negan is just the boogyman.
Arrr, didn't you just say a couple reviews ago that you didn't want Farmer Rick? Make up your mind man.

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Feb 29, 2016
re: Tim's reviews - yes, yes it is. I agree with Tim about 75% of the time but still consider him a very good and honest critic even when we disagree.
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Feb 29, 2016
Re;Slayme3- Agreed. I appreciate that he's willing to stick to his opinion, i prefer his honesty tot he crap[ we get on Talking Dead, but sometimes he's just plain wrong.
Sorry Tim, love you much!
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Feb 29, 2016
so much typo. I wish we could edit comments. lol
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Feb 29, 2016
How many single car accidents can one show possibly have?

"[There's] two more [of us]. They ran on ahead". Umm...weren't there three more?

"Storm must have passed through...we're stuck". No Rick, you dummy, you just drove straight on into a conspicuous mud puddle surrounded by dry ground.

Xander Berkeley's in charge? Run, don't walk. This guy always plays sketchy characters.

"There have been teases of a food shortage recently..."

Which I don't entirely understand. Sure, they were rationing before, but before the population of Alexandria was A LOT bigger. At least half (if not more) of the people have died, so shouldn't the food situation instantly get better? It's not like they were starving when Diana was around, so how exactly did things get so dire?

"Which is why we have to take their sudden level of starvation and just accept it, which was a bit harder than normal since it's the plot motivator for one of the worst decisions Rick has made in the series."


And THAT'S saying something because Rick's had a sh*t ton of bad ideas.

"Elsewhere, Abraham wrestled with his conscience and his heart as he found himself caught between his current squeeze Rosita and his crush Sasha"


No, just no! On the up side, it guarantees that at least one of those three will die. Rosita's tops on my list, but it wouldn't surprise me if either Abraham or Sasha bought it as well. Just so long as I don't have to waste any time watching TWD try and force this down my throat.
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Feb 29, 2016
50+ people can eat a lot of food in 2 months.
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Feb 29, 2016
They sure can. But Diana was still in the "sketching out phase" of her whole agriculture plan so they must still have had plenty of food left. A couple of days later, those 50 people were down to 15-20 plus Rick's group especially doubling their previsions.
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Feb 29, 2016
No they currently have 50+. Jesus counted 54 in this episode, unless I misheard. You're assuming they lost half their number during the attack. But even if they did lose half, they were already on strict rations 2 months ago, so of course they'd be back to rations again now. They might have done okay food-wise for 2 months, but they'd easily be back to where they were by now, if the scavenging wasn't going well (which they said it wasn't last episode). They aren't starving to death, but with winter coming and crops refusing to sprout, they are thinking ahead.
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Mar 02, 2016
What? They mentioned that crops were refusing to sprout? Or this this just what we viewers must assume? I've been wondering why they haven't been growing crops in Alexandria from the start. In the prison they started growing crops very quickly.
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Feb 29, 2016
You're right, I remember him saying that now. So, if they have 54 now, then there must have been well over 100 prior.

Of course, now that I think back, despite Maggie saying that they're been working for a few weeks, over two months has passed since Diana was in charge.

I guess TWD's lack of effective writing just justify this "all of a sudden" food shortage.
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Feb 29, 2016
Much better Ep this week than that abomination last week.

The stage is set for an epic battle.

Episode did a good job of moving things toward something exciting... the suspense is there, the mystery is there...

Xander Berkeley is always great. Solid addition to the series. Enjoyed the back and forth between he and Maggie and good to see Maggie finding a new role within the team where she can take center stage.

That death scene where Rick stabbed the guy was insane, the way it was shot was really clever in how it got your focus going to Michonne and then boom! Whoever set that up bravo actually shocked me with that... And Rick's like "what? What are you looking at..." lmao.

Our team is a little too cocky going into this battle with Negan and the Saviours though. I'm scared we're about to get deep into some extreme shit we aren't prepared for haha. "We" as in the audience and our main group. A storm is coming.

I'm not feeling Richonne yet because it wasn't built and established properly so it's going to take me awhile to adjust and i'm still not feeling that doctor... Denise is it? Don't know why she keeps getting screentime and so many others don't. She sucks.


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