The Walking Dead "Prey" Review: Chasing Andrea

The Walking Dead S03E13: "Prey"

I feel like I've been pretty positive about the past handful of episodes of The Walking Dead, focusing on the things the show is attempting to do well rather than pick apart some of the old bad habits it just can't quit. But that's because those episodes had some positive parts to elevate above the rest. "Clear" was obviously fantastic all around, and the two that bookended "Clear" had their moments that were worthy of discussion and at least some praise so as not to dump all over everything else. But there's a sense of impatience building up (and for some of you, already flowing over), and The Walking Dead needed a strong episode to pull it out of the muck.

Tonight's "Prey" was not that episode, nor did not have those good moments to mask the bad. In fact, it was pretty horrible through and through. "Prey" should have been called "Opaque," because it was the exact opposite of "Clear" (I know, *groan*, I can't even believe I typed that). It staggered around aimlessly and repetitively like a Biter/Walker/Zombie on a NASCAR track, dropping us off pretty much where it started with just minor discontent for The Governor among some Woodburyites and Andrea about to get BDSM'd as our payoff. Sometimes when nothing happens, some interesting things can still come out of it like a good speech about drunk neighbors or an unlikely character interaction (Hershel is still waiting for that drink, Milton), as parts of the nowhere-fast "Arrow on the Doorpost" showed. But "Prey" was a negative byproduct of expanding the show to 16 episodes (when condensing it would provide better drama), and one of the biggest wastes of an hour in this inconsistent Season 3.

The tiny wave of momentum created by Rick declaring WAR in "Arrow on the Doorpost" was squashed underfoot when the episode never revisited our prison buddies putting on war paint and drinking deer's blood or whatever it is people do to get pumped up for battle. Instead, we spent "Prey" hanging out with everyone's favorite flip-flopper Andrea as she, for the umpteenth time, tried to leave Woodbury, this time with the intent to defect and warn Rick and his peeps to hit the road. 

I know I've been something of an Andrea apologist around these parts, in the sense that I don't hate her nearly as much as the rest of the world does, but good God "Prey" certainly didn't help my case and I think I'm beginning to see the light. The problem with Andrea is less about what she does and more about how she's being used for the story The Walking Dead wants to tell. In an ensemble drama like this, I tend to look at characters as parts that serve the story rather than rational human beings, and aside from Andrea seeing how much Rick's group has changed in "I Ain't No Judas," she's been as useful as a coffin in a zombie apocalypse. In "Prey" Andrea tried to go to the prison and got caught. That's it. That's how we spent our hour. Maybe she finally waffled over to definitively realizing her boyfriend Philip was a terrible, horrible person, but beyond that, she essentially got caught sneaking out of the house like a horny teenager and shall now pay for it by being subjected to the tools of a disgruntled dentist or a gynecologist with female issues. It won't be pretty.

Bright side alert: There was a lot of accidental entertainment value in Andrea's great escape, however, as "Prey" devolved into a low-budget horror movie financed by foreign oil tycoons. While ducking away from Martinez and his men (because she was trouncing down the MAIN ROAD IN PLAIN SIGHT), Andrea ran into the woods and was ambushed by four zombies. Again with the zombie ambush! Walking Dead writers, you do realize that the way survivors avoid zombie ambushes is by keeping their eyes and ears open, right? These undead dudes aren't exactly masters of stealth, what with the gurgling and the moaning and the shuffling. Twigs still crack and leaves still crinkle under the foot of a zombie, even if they were ballerinas when they were alive. Anyone who gets sneaked up on by a zombie at this point in the show deserves to die right away. Ray Charles wearing Bose noise-canceling headphones would have known those zombies were coming. ENOUGH WITH ZOMBIE AMBUSHES WE AREN'T THAT DUMB OR DESPERATE.

Later, Andrea was jogging (she did a lot of jogging this ep) through a field when The Governor and his Mad Max truck tried to run her down by going the exact same speed that Andrea was running. But Andrea found some trees to run into and The Governor stopped pursuing her because he's scared of trees I guess? Or maybe there was a really good song on his radio and he didn't want to leave the truck? Whatever the reason, it felt like the crew just decided to shoot this scene on the way to shooting another scene and stuck that in there. There was really zero purpose for it other than to stretch out "Prey" to its required length.

Then Andrea popped out of the woods later that evening and what do you know, The Governor was pulling up in his Destructo-Truck, too! Good luck and timing on his part, I guess. Andrea ducked into an abandoned building, and Andrea and The Governor did their version of Homeland's regrettable Carrie vs. Abu Nazir in the warehouse scene, but this one went on for way too long because this filler episode needed some filler of its own. After Andrea stopped kicking buckets full of tools over, she did a cool, if unbelievable, trick to get away from The Governor by hiding behind a door that led to a stairway full of zombies. The zombies went after him, and Andrea escaped. But nothing about this scene was exciting unless you were trying to pick up on some hide-and-seek strategy. Walking Dead web series idea: flashback to how all those zombies ended up in that stairwell.

Run away from The Governor once, good on you. Run away from The Governor twice, shame on him. But run away from The Governor three times, shame on The Walking Dead, so just as Andrea was approaching the prison, The Governor popped out from nowhere like a ghillie-suited sniper and grabbed her. Nice try, Andrea! All you had to do was scream to Rick or, you know, pay attention to your surroundings. In the final scene, we saw Andrea chained up in The Governor's kinky room, prepped for a good old torture scene. Something tells me that maybe now Andrea believes The Governor is a bad guy, but I still wouldn't be surprised if she slept with him anyway because she's the hottest of hot messes. 

You'd think that because Andrea's near escape took up so much of the episode, it'd be memorable, but I only know what happened because I took notes. I've had trips to the bathroom that were more tense than these scenes. It's too bad, because with just a few strong creative choices, they could have been at least entertaining on purpose. Instead, bleh. Andrea murdering some zombies in the woods was tacked on. The chase through the field was lame. The game of hide-and-seek in the warehouse was directed so poorly that suspense never entered the scene. And The Governor popping out from nowhere to catch Andrea? Is he Rambo now? This is the laziest this show has been in a while.

But dare I say that Andrea's storyline might be better than what was given to Tyreese? With the stupid mostly knocked out of Andrea, someone else needed to play the role of clueless character who was unsure about The Governor. Tyreese and Sasha were more like new-to-Woodbury Michonne actually, with Allen, the worst character in the show by far, playing the part of new-to-Woodbury Andrea. Allen: Don't mess this up for me, I like it here! Tyreese: I think The Governor might be a mass murderer! Allen: Who cares, I like it here! Yes, once against it's back to the recycling machine to find a storyline, only this involves characters we barely know (and one we can't stand) who drummed up old jealousy issues as their source of conflict. Tyreese really should have done us all a favor and held Allen's head a little lower over the pit so the zombies could eat his scalp, because the sooner Allen is horrifically murdered, the better this show will be.

Tyreese had concerns about the tactic of using Zombie Warfare, but the smooth-talking Governor quelled his fear by saying he was just gonna use the zombies to scare Rick and his group. Tyreese said, "Oh okay, that's okay then." And that was that. That's like me saying, "I'm not actually going to eat this delicious looking burrito, I just want to hold it." It's pretty weak overall, and not the way we wanted to spend more time with Tyreese.

I guess we should also talk about Milton, who is now mid-Season-3 Andrea. He knows enough to realize The Governor should be stopped, but he can't allow him to be killed. And he's the worst liar in the world, barely able to hide the fact that he burned the zombies and that he told Andrea everything. There, we talked about Milton.

"Prey" needed to follow the tiny sliver of momentum of the last episode and build up the inevitable final battle, but instead, we chased a blonde through the woods and played the "good guy or bad guy?" game with Tyreese and Sasha the contestants. Even though the episode was mostly confined to Woodbury and Andrea, two of Season 3's biggest problems, it wasn't those two factors that made "Prey" such a chore. That blame falls to the storytelling, which was just an hour of chasing Andrea. I'm quickly joining the ranks of the frustrated as even I can't talk myself into thinking the season is in a good place.


SURVIVAL NOTES

– If Season 3 ends with Rick and company needing to save Andrea from The Governor, I'm going to throw my TV out the window. More likely, either Milton or Tyreese will help her escape before the big battle with the prison. 

Yes, I will have a GIF of Andrea tripping and knocking over a bucket soon! (Edit: and it's here, plus her late episode trip!)

– How sneaky was Andrea when she was about to shoot The Governor through those wide-open blinds? And how blind was The Governor not to see her? 

– The episode opened with a flashback to Andrea and Michonne in the woods with Michonne's pet zombies, and I still have no idea what the purpose of the flashback was except to be the first half of a match-cut with the zombies' chains and the chains used in The Governor's torture chamber. 

– Ummm, since when are Andrea and Milton so close that she'd kiss him on the cheek? 

– So I guess The Walking Dead is ending most of its episodes with music from small artists now? In anticipation of the release of its crappy soundtrack? Tonight's song was "You Are the Wilderness" by Voxhaul Broadcast.


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After watching the first scene of this episode again and Michonne's response to the memory of her "pet zombies'" former selves, it's clear she was probably victimized by them -- rape, maybe, explaining her steely reserve; I haven't read the comics -- but that helps relate the scene to the rest of the episode. The predator connection. I concur, though, it's a strange if not extraneous leap.
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In all honesty I saw the episode as somewhat of a canonical filler that added character depth for a lot of the people we see on the other side. We see a reason to why Milton can't allow the Governor to die, we see that the group Rick casted away aren't really hungry for vengeance as much as wanting to survive and we see how much Andrea has grown and rebuilt as a person after being broken down. A decent episode if you ask me
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I love Andrea. There, I said it. She's been one of my favourites since the beginning, and all I've wanted ALL SEASON was for her to merge back with the prison group. *sigh* So close!
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Andrea has got to go. She is a walking, talking liability. And although not a character flaw, it looks super fake when she obviously slows down the momentum of her hand right before she stabs a zombie in the eye. Let Michonne shine.

And I liked this episode. Was hoping for Andrea's death. oh well.

Could the governor and MIlton be brothers? Why hasn't one of them killed the other yet?
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The dumbing down of Andrea is nearly complete. For whatever reason they are doing it. Basically that was an hour of Andrea being a B Horror movie actress, committing B movie mistakes resulting in getting caught again. Because she didn't adhere to the one and only simple rule of their universe. A person isn't dead unless you personally ram something through their brain, or see someone do that. Why not take his truck? If he took the keys with him. Hot wire it, or render it useless. Thought it didn't help that the person having delusions was on watch guard duty. Who's bright freaking idea was that?

She should have shot the Governor in the head in the torture chamber, and then escaped in the clamor. Or teamed up with the pseudo scientist and led the town. Assuming the second banana would just jump right into the Governor's spot, without the Governor's supernatural ability to somehow come off uber creepy and sketchy but having that not be picked up by the characters, I am not sure how he would take over.
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Mate Positive Review: Mate will just say "great episode, let's hope they keep it up."
Mate Negative Review: Long, in-depth look at all the continuity issues and all the logic problems of an episode, and his take on what characters should or shouldn't do.

Sorry, I couldn't resist that Mate. lol. I will say I agree with most of this, but I felt Andrea not shooting him in the head was more the fault of Milton than her. A scene earlier, he said she will never get close to him, but then a scene later she is very close to him and he still denies her the kill. Where's the logic in that? She's to blame too for not going through with it, but still.
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Hey, my reviews of POI, Justified, The Americans, Grimm and some of the Arrow that I have really liked and other shows are just as long. My negative reviews just happen to be more memorable.

As for Milton? HA. Andrea is, well was a formidable, she could have slapped him away and shot the Governor without even breaking a sweat. It was another scene that seemed. Either way it is still the dumbing down of Andrea. She is a shadow of what she was last season. I hope they redeem her before the finale. I am not sure even her killing the Governor will accomplish that.
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Yeah, I miss those reviews since I don't watch those shows. I guess it only applies to The Walking Dead. As for Andrea, I don't think she will be redeemed, and at this point, I'm not sure if I even care. She finally realized the Governor is evil, after several episodes of people telling her, so I don't think one scene in the last two episodes will make up for her stupidity that lasted most of the season, and is still pretty much ongoing.
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Excellent review, Tim writes what I think. The Walking Dead seems as random as the weather, and I feel like if you want good episodes, you have to take terrible episodes. It's like "Prey" was more meant for a future in syndication, perfectly unimportant for the endless regurgitation of episodes out of order. Definitely someone needs to remix this show for new viewers down to its reasonable length.
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I've never been a fan of Andrea's but after seeing her take on zombies (and the Governor) armed with nothing but a pocket knife I'm actaully starting to respect and (dare I say) like her a little bit more. I do agree that she is still completely useless - which is a shame 'cos according to friends of mine who have read the comic she is supposed to come across as more likeable. In fact they say that she is one of their fav characters. I am going to give the writers etc the benefit of the doubt as i get that TWD is an ensemble piece and not everyone can get to be the quarterback.
Was it just me or did anyone else find it kinda jarring when TWD moved from zombie horror to classic stalker/slasher horrror? It felt really weird.
I like how they are keeping the theme of 'humans are worse than zombies' - as shown when Andrea decided that it would be better to wade through a crowd of zombies rather than face the Governor. Although I think I must have blinked or something 'cos I don;t understand how got past them without any of the zombies in the stairwell trying to bite - surely she would've been an easier (closer) target than Phiillip?
I really hate it when the villian pops up at exactly the right time and place without being spotted to stop the hero getting rescued - how did he get past the crowd of zombie back to his car, drive past Andrea without being spotted and know to hide in exactly the right spot to grab her before she got to the prison?
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"Twigs still crack and leaves still crinkle under the foot of a zombie, even if they were ballerinas when they were alive." Spoken as a person who truly has no clue about ballet, or ballerinas.

Incidentally, I loved the episode (finally got to see it this morning). I don't try to overthink everything an just enjoy the entertainment. I actually screamed when the tree-zombie grabbed Andrea, and I was literally on the edge of my seat when they were in the building. I had a definite "ew" moment watching the burned zombies still writhing and reaching...effective! The only complaint I had was Andrea standing in plain sight behind the grating watching the Gov.

Oh, and "duh"...if you couldn't figure out why Andrea kissed Milton on the cheek, you have no heart. It was not an intimate or sexual kiss.
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I think black people might be immune to The Governors charm.

Also, this episode was lame. Just filler, and terrible terrible filler.
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Remember in LOST Season 6..That season gave us one of the best eps ever :Ab Aterno..and one the worst: The Man across the Sea..Well Clear and Prey fit those criteria. IMO Like that S6 of Lost. We are too close to the end of the season for this type of episode..( and it was avg at best..and really not needed espcially to fill the whole 44min!!) everyone needs to be involved ..Walking Dead you are the big dog Now!! act like it!!
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Umm, can we talk about the plot hole of the Governor leaving his truck outside? The whole time she was in the warehouse I was like, just get through the building to the back then circle back around to get his truck and drive yourself to the prison. Hello! Even if he had the keys on him, surely the first thing you learn to do in a zombie apocalypse is to hot-wire a car. Then she successfully escapes and just keeps walking? Ugh.

I agree with Tim that this was filler. I mean you could've at least made some kind of character moment with the ep. Thanks for that waste of an hour, amc. grr
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Thank you! that is exactly what I would've done. why walk in a zombie apocalypese when there is a perfectly good car waiting to be hot wired?
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Its as if they put the two people we hate most on the screen the entire episode in hopes we will fall in love with them so they wont kill them off. Let him turn and let him take her down with him. They have no problem killing people we actually like to watch, why dont they do us fans a favor and make this the best season ending yet.
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a complete wasted hour... an entire episode dedicated to the most hated characters: andrea and the governor.. who by the way, i believed was not just scratched by walkers but also bitten. Pay attencion when he walkes after talking to tyresse and the group, he tries to cover his torso, in a very suspicious way. i hope he became a walker and his last supper is andrea
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So unimpressed with this episode. With all of Andrea's dumb choices this season I really couldn't care what the Governor does to her. And it is so disappointing when you can see where the finale is headed, especially if its centered around a character you'd quite happily see killed off.
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Tim, your schtick is getting a bit old at this point. Can TV.com get a reviewer that actually enjoys the show?
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I made the same comment a few weeks ago. And other members pointed out the fact that he does actually like the show. But as a regular reader of reviews here on TV.Com, I also noticed that most of Tim's reviews are negative. (except for POI)

So yeah I agree with you.. It would be nice to have a reviewer of TWD who can give the show some more credit. I also think the show makes some mistakes and logical errors. But what show doesnt? Since TWD returned in February, I have read 1 fairly positive review (episode "Clear") And for all the other episodes, the review was entirely negative. So if he really likes the show like I do, he would be able to point out the good and the bad stuff. Not just the bad stuff. Like you said, It's getting a bit old now..
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I don't know. I prefer the balanced approach. Don't get me wrong there have been times when Tim has criticised things that I thought were great but a) he does make good points and give valid reasons for his opinion and b) from what I can see he comes across as a huge fan of the show that occasionally gets frustrated with it because it isn't as good as he thinks it could be. I don't think that this makes him a 'hater' but a passionate fan that wants the show to be the best that it could be
I think that he does point out the good stuff as well. - Re-read his review for 'Clear' I don't think that reviewers should just say how great the show is all the time. I want to read their opinions whether I agree with them or not as it makes see the show from a different perspective.
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Has anyone noticed how every freakin season ends up with Andrea being saved by someone else....its exhausting!! 1st season: dale talks her into not taking the easy way out and they end up getting out just seconds before everything explodes. 2nd season: she's just about to get ripped apart by zombies when "WOOOOOSH!!" Michonne saves her butt just in time. 3rd season: We havent seen the finale YET but it definitely looks like we're going straight ahead into another "save the good for nothing dumb blonde" episode. Andrea do us all a favor and PLEASE PLEASE just die already!! Believe me you wont be missed.
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All things considered, it was an okay episode, despite being filler. The chase scene was a bit unbelievable, although I do think that other than the poor, predictable writing, they did shoot the chase scene rather well.

I still reflect after every episode the same way: *sigh*... so Andrea's not dead yet? Maybe next episode.
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Another useless episode, which wasn't even fun to watch. And I was so happy when I found out last year The Walking Dead would have 16 episodes! How disappointing it has been! When I finished watching "Prey", something occurred to me, which filled me with dread: I wonder if this preparation for war will stretch up to the finale and then - guess what? It won't happen this season! The scenes of the next episode too bored me to death: What?? Are they still talking about giving Michonne to the Governor?? WE KNOW IT WON'T HAPPEN, for God's sake! Stop wasting our time!
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When Andrea did the hide-and-seek trick with the door (the only good moment of the episode, IMHO), I was pretty sure the Governor was killed by the walkers. I was surprised that his death was so low-scale but I really thought he was dead. There were many walkers, no space, and his gun was not fully loaded after he shot some waklers earlier. So how come he got away? Also, he was pretty badly cratched after he returned. Was there zombie scratches and if so why is he OK? I dont thin they could be made by Andreaas she didn't get any chance to do it. I really dont remember if he was scratched when he attacked Andrea so maybe I'm wrong but still this escape seems a bit too easy..
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Really? You feel like he the Governor couldn't have gotten away? All he would have needed to do was just turn around and run away. There was space to move away: the way he came in. Instead, he starts blasting bullets at them, and freaking out: "Eeek, I am going to die!"

Next time: TURN AROUND!
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Okay, it's official. If the Govenor is not dead by the end of the season I am cancelling my series recording. Done! I'm SO over this show!
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My bad - "Governor" - WORST, VILLIAN, EVER!
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ok, not a lot happened, but I had my heart POUNDING through most of this episode, and what other show menages to pull something like that these days?
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I understand that creators are trying to milk this show to the very max, but IMO episodes 13 and 14 should've been just one episode instead of what we have now. Well, there are just two of them left, so hopefully there is no time left for nonsense and we're back to business of TWD awesomeness :)
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Well... it was bad. Simly because it was an stretching device... and since BDSM has been mentioned that does not sound pleasant at all.... One thing everyone i think has to agree with is the fact that Tyrese acted like a naive child when he was told that the zombies were just for show... "Why didn't your man just said that?" Becaaaaause thaaaaat is noooooot the reason? That was quality lazy writing there. You just don't found that anywhere (well in Lorenzo Lamas's Octopus Vs Megashark maybe but that is besides the point). Sure some scenes looked well but i have to say that episode was not redeemed by the little good it had. I don't want the show to be exactly like the comic, but maybe is time to go back a bit because we are dragging this storyline severely here. This prison thing should have ended already.
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I agree this episode sucked. But they still better not kill Andrea. They already killed Lori, who everybody also LOVED to hate, so can we please keep Andrea? And turn her back in the Andrea of the past two seasons? The one who outran the zombies for DAYS when Rick's group LEFT HER BEHIND. The one who was found by Michonne, back when I had amazing fantasies about the two of them being bad asses. Because that's what they are. Andrea's only part of the show this season was to introduce the Governor and keep one of the "old gang" there to give us a perspective of some sort. Although I have no fucking clue what the perspective is supposed to be, but that's the only way I can defend the writers choices.

Next episode better be Michonne kicking down the door right when the Gov is about to start his torture bullshit and have her cut off his head and then have them all head out and do some other shit cause this is getting booooooring.
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The Andrea of the last two seasons? The one who still sucked, made stupid decisions, and was, in general, a liability (see: shooting Daryl)? No thanks. Write the character out of the show already, please.
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I think the problem with this show is that they don't stick to one main writer, each time a writer leaves you can feel the difference, and it doesn't feel right.
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I feel like I've not agreed with you for several episodes now. The ones you thought were great character development, I thought were boring filler. I thought this episode was amazing, and I hate Andrea with a fiery passion. I loved the horror movie feel of it, and I think this is what Andrea needed to go through in order to be able to get behind straight up murdering the Governor. She knows he's crazy, but he's been nice to her, which can make the crazy seem less real. Now, he's been mean to her, so her scorned-woman wrath can be fully unleashed and maybe she'll do something productive during this war.

And I felt like Milton is developing. I don't think he was actually trying to hide that he burned the pit of zombies. The way he said it was more like he was telling the Governor he did it and kind of daring him to do anything about it. I also understand why he wouldn't be so gung-ho about killing the Governor just yet. I don't know if you've ever been friends with someone who turned out to be an absolutely terrible human being, but I have, and sometimes, it takes a while to separate the good person you thought they were from the monster they have proven to be, which makes it difficult to automatically wish for their death just because you don't agree with a couple things they've done. This is made harder when you know they've been through a tragedy, like, I don't know, losing their daughter to a zombie apocalypse. Am I saying the Governor was right to do what he did or that I personally sympathize with him in any way? No. But I do understand why Milton did.
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Well said. I wonder if Tim just kills the people around him who make decisions he doesn't agree with?
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Tim your review was just YAWNNNNNNNN.. Good for you that you didn't like it. And all your little sheeps here in the comments just think what you think.. IMO it was the best episode since they returned in February. (with "Clear" obviously the best ep)
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This episode was proof that the entire show, from the writers to the actors to the zombies, is comprised of underperformers. The entire show is terrible, and most here watch it for lack of any other zombie fiction on tv. Apart from the show's employees, there is also culpability at the highest decision-making echelons of AMC, who showed their disdain of this demographic by not inventing a new show, but instead adapting one out of a graphic novel written a fat slob. Well, I shouldn't call him fat, but Google the guy. The point is that this magnificent trope of zombies deserved better than The Walking Dead: The Show.

Anyways, granting that we are already here and got suckered back in to not being complete massive haters is because the mid-season comeback was great and the show seemed on the up. Wasting our time with the nonsensical Andrea making another un-escape from the wooden Governor was a huge troll. This is brainless, heartless film-making.
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Allow me to update. There are now currently 15 dimwits including iodselle. Censuses are always important...but really all this shows is a more severe gang mentality than the one iodselle conceives, and follows up with irrefutable pretension. Please, "like" iodselle by all means...but know that you're pathetic in doing so. Yay!!!
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haha don't cry child..
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i cry for humanity is all :-(
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Really? 6 people think we can't form our own opinions that happen to agree with tim's? Don't be so dense. Sounds more like you're finding excuses to validate your own opinion, rather than be intelligent about it.
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^ This.
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Another awful episode. There is nothing scary about the Governor anymore, the writers have done away with any bit of intrigue or mystery with this guy. Andrea is beyond painful. I don't car what happens her. Last week we had these great character moments between Daryl and Martinez, and Hershel and Milton. I was thinking, oh I'll be disappointed now when Martinez dies cause he seems like an ok guy, stuck in the middle of all this crap. This was from 5 minutes screen time, so I know the writers have it in them to do great things. This episode though, maybe it's because Andrea has done a Lori, and is beyond redemption as a character, but I had zero investment in it. When the show is at it's best, I can overlook the inconsistencies, but when it's bad they just become even more glaring. Andrea can stroll to the prison in one episode, needs a car to return, then she can't even find it in this episode??? Zombies can sneak up on Andrea in the woods, yet they are so loud normally, grunting and moaning. Which is it? It was a relief to see Rick at the end. There is nothing good about Woodbury.
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I haven't read all the comments, so don't know if it has been brought up before...

Governor was looking pretty exhausted and in pain when he came out after talking to Tyreese. Could he be bitten ?????
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Oh good, it wasn't just me! I thought so too!
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I knew that if Andrea didn't kill the Governor when she had the chance she would wind up being his next victim.
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I think instead of wasting a whole episode on Andrea, show us some of the other people from the prison going out on a scout - either checking on Woodbury, trying to find supplies/ammo or maybe even bumping in to more strangers to see how other people are surviving. Add a bit more realism to the show. When they walk past an abandoned vehicle, check to see what it has to offer, how much fuel is left etc...
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Well honestly last episodes of TWD is really slow. I truly didn't need full few episodes of boring stuff and I truly hope we will see Governor dead before this season finishes!
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Man, I fast-forwarded most of the episode. Poor Andrea, she has the worst luck with men. I mean, Shane and the Governor? C'mon!
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Am I the only one that thinks the Governor might have been bitten? First he pulled the "let's only roll the window down halfway so I look like Wilson from Home Improvement", and I was like WHOA HE GOT BIT. Then he walked in for that awful Tyrese scene, and I was like, Oh, his face is normal. But then while he was talking to Milton, he kept pulling his jacket tighter and nursing his side.

I don't know, just something that popped into my head and now I can't shake it.
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I agree,but he was also scratched...didn't they say,even that is enough. When I saw him having cuts on face,I said oh,oh...someone is in trouble:D
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I never thought of that until you mentioned it - totally agree.
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It would be ridiculously stupid if he didn't get bitten! What he has now? Iron skin? Special kung-fu skills? Had no ammo, bunch of zombies was on him already! I say no freaking chance! If he is not, then this show gets just stupid...
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all the zombies came from his front , so if he just turn back and run the other way , and just exit the building ...
what I finf really stupid is that he captured andrea in silence , the first time he was in his car like a texas chainsaw massacre maniac , honking and everything , next time he dit it Dexter's Style , coming in silence from behind , maybe with a seringue too , who knows ? now andrea is on a torture chair , but why ? torture is made for make people talk , she doesn't have any secrets , he seems to have gynecologist equipment on the table , but he slept with her already , so I am thinking he knows her well on that part too ...
If he kills her next week , who will miss her ?
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I will miss her.
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I don't understand how he couldn't have. There was a whole swarm on him! I'm thinking he's gonna be some super-zombie thing.
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i disagree about the zombie ambushes for one of two reasons
1. the most obvious one: this is a show about zombies
2. do you want his to end up like terra nova? not even working that part of the story?
i say squeeze in as many zombies you can
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I believe the point is not Zombies themselves, but the way zombies are coming, unnoticed. The characters should be aware of Zombies in their surroundings at least in the woods due to dry leave cracking and other noises.
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Yeah. bleh.
But I'm kinda looking forward to watching Andrea being tortured to make up for her all-season suckiness :D
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And her ghost will haunt us for rest of next season? Lol. Becareful what you wish for. We are not done with first ghostly wife of our leader. :)
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Oh SNAP!!!
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And what about the gasoline ? if this show wants to be realistic , about how people would live in a zombie apocalypse , why are they wasting gasoline like that ?
last week they used a car and daryl's bike to come to the meeting , so you use gasoline twice , this week it was gasoline to burn zombies.

The story started 2 years ago or maybe more , and they still have gasoline at this point ? and food , ammo ... we see michonne and andrea eating in the woods , some can that was really close to empty , but nobody ever seems hungry or worrying about that.

so this show is not realistic , and not entertaining , that's why it's so boring.it should be one or the other.Realistic or over the top with action and fun
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I've discussed your points with others on here before. The show is very inconsistent with their zombie rules. How can four zombies can sneak up on Andrea in the woods? There was zero grunting, then the arm goes around her and they become super noisy, which is it? Depending on what the story needs the zombies go from super terrifying to really easy to kill.
It's not two years in Walking Dead time, it's only coming up on a year, if you google it you'll get the timelines. Still they don't have any concern about wasting petrol, and they have a never ending supply of cars??? I know they syphon petrol, but they have never stopped at a gas station. At the start when Rick had a horse, that made sense, no fuel and you can eat it if you run out of food.
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Yeah it is coming up on a year. All this started what around it was Summer? They spent that and some of fall in farm... then they jumped ahead through most of fall and winter back to spring...so its now coming back up on summer year two if they don't jump ahead again in season 4.

But anyway co-signing your sneaky, loud, stupid, smart, random ass zombie comments. I think that because walking dead goes through so many writers or the people over them, it shows alot sometimes.
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ok I said 2 years because Andrea and michonne have been alone 8 months if I remember , and episodes are so long and boring that sometimes an hour feels like a month.
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Great review , funny and really similar to what I felt during this episode.

This show is so caricatural now , the governor is ridiculous , not scary at all , the zombies ambushed are really really predictable and dumb.Why is there so many zombies in the woods , and around the prison , they are slow and easy to kill , 30 minutes and the field would be clear again.
When the governor said that people are most scared about a zombie at the end of a chain than a gun on their face , it was so stupid.Seriously , look andrea killed 4 zombies with a butter knife in 10 seconds , I understand it was scary at first , but after a year or two killing zombies almost every day , I think you would get used to it.

I can't wait to see this season over , woodbury gone , and something new and exciting , but how would the writers do that ?

About the music at the end of the show , it really looks like they want to copy sons of anarchy , but they're bad at it.
I remember the funeral of Opie with the song "The lost boy" , this was very intense and moving , I love this song ever since , and everytime I hear it , it reminds me of that scene.

I can't say that about the walking dead scenes , you kind of forgot the episode right away , and hope next week will be better ... and it never is...
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I actually liked this episode. Andrea finally made a choice and picked a side. It really pissed off The Governor and brought out more of his darker side. Anyone else notice he's started dressing like a villain since Michonne killed Penny and took his eye? No more J. Crew. It's Darth Governor now. And he's taking what is his by kidnapping Andrea. Even if his truck can't drive over tall brush and through a cluster of trees. *eyeroll at reviewer* I loved the zombie ambush Andrea put on him, but I knew he wouldn't die there. He also found out that Milton didn't have his back in many respects. His oldest living friend turned on him. That doesn't bode well for Milton's future. Things aren't lookin' too good for Andrea right now, either. But I think it's more of a possession thing than hurting her for leaving. The chair just happened to be there and ready for Michonne. My opinion.
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All the recently added musical numbers at the end are surely little more than another way for AMC to milk this show for all it's worth, this time via iToonz. Groan.

Tim, why did you choose that particular stabbing scene for an animated gif? That was the worst kill in the episode, with Laurie Holden the actress clearly pulling her punch right at the end. Weak scene. Much better was the Governor's shovel-to-the-head scene inside the abandoned building.
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I disagree. Sure, Andrea could've taken the truck or slashed the tires. Yes, she should have heard those zombies coming a mile away. And why do the Gov's men still follow him despite knowing Rick's rescue mission was justified and that the prison folks pose no threat to Woodbury? But...

Michonne saying her armless zombies deserved what they got, were bad to begin with... cut to the Gov, we can infer the same about him. Maybe also a reference that he's no longer human (figuratively speaking).

Andrea was a catalyst:
She challenged Milton to act. He finally opened his eyes and acted against the Gov. We needed to see Milton's secret/not so secret defiance (confiding in Andrea about the Gov's plan, setting the zombies afire) in order to believe an upcoming bigger (deadly?) defiance. It also showed us how he lost the Gov's trust.

Andrea leaving Woodbury led to Tyreese putting 2 and 2 together regarding the Gov and the scene before that showed us he's a bad shot. :) He knows the deal now, but he knows better than to say so. He and his sister will either stay and sabotage or escape to the prison. And we know why Allen and son won't.

We saw the Gov lie to Martinez - supposedly someone he trusts - about Andrea, implying he hadn't found her. As far as we know, he's never done that before. Maybe Martinez will find out and be the one to rescue her... and put down the Gov? Speaking of, I think Milton or someone else unexpected (Carl? Tyreese?) will do it. Too many others (Michonne, Maggie, Glenn, Rick?) have claim on him, how can one choose which should be the one to carry out justice?

The Gov's chasing of Andrea was suspenseful imho. I jumped when the zombie grabbed her from behind the tree - even though I felt it coming! I found myself rooting for her when she was in the building (and here I thought I wanted her gone!). I jumped again when the Gov got her outside the prison. I love it when a show does that. It also left her sitting in his special chair. I don't know the purpose for that yet... maybe the Gov will be killed by someone rescuing her?

The music at the end was great and I'm not even a fan of that style. Last week's (Fink) was perfect.

This is a zombie apocalypse, not Shakespeare. The first time someone told me about it, I laughed. Maybe the difference is in our expectations? I watch to be entertained, and it did the job nicely. :)
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As always, great review Tim!
Pretty stupid and subpar episode, scenes looked like a cheap horror movie.
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It was a bit disappointing that they didn't move the plot forward more, and that we hardly got to see the guys at the prison at all. The worst moment was obviously when three walkers teleported in right next to Andrea. I was just waiting for it to happen. I was thinking "there's going to be a ****ing walker behind the tree she's leaning against", and I was still kind of surprised by it, because I didn't think they would make the scene that dumb. And then we saw that she also had two walkers right in front of her. She obviously couldn't have missed those. So they must have teleported in.

But I didn't *hate* the episode. It was below average for this season, and above average for what's on TV the rest of the week. I'm going to watch The Following tomorrow, and I already know that that's going to be a lot dumber.

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Tim, all I'm going to say is 100% accurate & awesome review---love the review but not the episode.
...lol, burritos;-)
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forgot to say that I'm surprised with how many people liked the episode but to each their own and I'm sure I watch/like stuff that most would roll their eyes at
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I have to agree....this episode was pretty weak. When it was over I felt pretty empty. I did like the abandoned warehouse scenes tho. The actor who plays the governor does a great job of being scary, and I was wondering how Andrea was going to get out of that situation. I loved how she hid behind the door, and the governor just went batshit crazy and killed them all, I guess. He seriously could have just left. He is really touched.

Andrea's trips, stumbling into lound chain fences and the like was annoying. She was giver a really raw deal by the writers tho when she got caught at the end by a Jason Vorhees channeling governor. That was uncanny, and unrealistic. Even for Andrea. That's her lot this season tho....

Rick chalking up what he thought he saw to another delusion was priceless. Great acting job there when he shrugged it off. Classic Rick.

And yes...Milton was so proud of himself when he told the Governor he hoped he found out who torched the biter pits. He's really growing on me and his new attitude, while it may get him into trouble, really takes him from the naive person we met earlier this season.

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Well Andrea is really regretting not killing the Gov in his sleep now I'm sure. I really hope she gets out of there before the big battle because they need more people on Team Prison and she cannot end the season as a damsel in distress. And I think we're going to find out more about what Michonne meant by "they deserved it" in the opening flashback, with her pet zombies. Also I really like the songs being at the end of each episode and I hope they continue to do it in all of them.
Right now, I am just really worried about who is going to be killed off in the big battle, it's freaking me out thinking about it. AGH this show!
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I'm sooo glad AMC got so involved in the production of this season. Almost every episode lately seems to show just how much the suits want this show to succeed and how valuable their input has been. Bravo!

There is literally no amount of torture that I will be unable to watch Andrea endure. Just sayin'.



PS:Can I have my "Hell on Wheels" back now?

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It makes me wonder.. every season when it suffers a bit...is it because of another show runner.... AGAIN! Or the start of the turmoil initially starting for HBIC at the moment. Its like every show runner gets wound up by suits or some asshole at AMC maybe? We don't know yet. But somebody doesn't know how to play nice.
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So boring. Possibly the worst episode of the series.
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No! I think you're too critical of the hide and seek in the factory, that was definitely not that bad at all and the complete look of callousness on Andrea's face as she watched the Walkers chase The Governor was great to see. There was only suspense from the question whether Andrea was going to get eaten or not, but it certainly was entertaining with the psycho whistling. I'd say Andrea vs Governor and Milton's 'character development' were minor redeeming qualities of the episode.

However the Governor's car chasing was mind boggling. We can all says thanks to the God of convenient arrivals and running predictions.
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Although I do have to vent a little frustration regarding the fact Andrea ignored the truck parked outside. Maybe she's become a true pessimist and decided he'd taken the keys?
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hot wire it or slash the tires as others have said
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Can she hot wire it? I've not seen her do that before, but then that does not mean she cannot. Slash the tires! Now there's something I missed, good call!
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-_- smh Andrea, all you had to do was take the Governers effing truck when she left the house of horrors; she is the epitome of dumb blondes.
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I know, right?! Hot wiring is like Zombie Apocalypse 101!
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Even if she knew how to do that, it would have been very risky, considering that the governor was probably already on the way back to the car...with a bunch of biters right behind him.
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Be realistic. If you set somebody up with a zombie ambush would you be expecting them to make it past the second wave of those weirdos? Let alone make it past them to run through that factory AND meet me back at your truck. The Governor is a freak show.
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They weren't between him and his truck, so he could just ignore them, turn around and run back to the car.
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