The Walking Dead "Strangers" Review: Unhappy Meal

The Walking Dead S05E02: "Strangers"


I'll say this right up front as a reminder: The Walking Dead: The TV Show is now well past the point I've read to in The Walking Dead: The Comics, so I'm no longer able to provide details on how the book and show have converged or diverged. But from what I understand, "Strangers" dipped back into the pages of the TV series' source material, and from couple different directions. Thus, depending on your pre-existing knowledge or blessed ignorance regarding Robert Kirkman's comics, your opinion of "Strangers" may vary. 

"Strangers" felt like an appropriate follow-up to last week's "No Sanctuary," an answer to the question of "What do we do now?" that arose after the explosive and bloody termination of Terminus. It also gave everyone a chance to take a deep breath and catch up on inter-group politics now that they weren't worried about being thrown onto a rotisserie. Mostly it was a lot of people leaving things in the past.


Tyreese officially forgave Carol, probably because he knows Carol is a motherflockin' badass and she'll make you look at some flowers if you cross her. Or, more likely, Tyreese still has PTSD over knowing that Carol did the right thing with Lizzie, and he's currently struggling with the idea of being transformed into a hardened survivor like Carol and Rick. Tara confessed to Maggie that she was chilling with the Governor when Hershel died, and the two hugged it out. Rick and Carol tried some watch-swapping again, closing the door on the tension created by Rick kicking Carol out the group. She saved everyone's lives, so here, have your watch back. You've earned it, girl (though she refused to take it). Also, Rick asked Carol whether his group could join Carol's party of one, like a beta wolf pulling his ears back to recognize the authority of the alpha. Still, Carol looked queasy about the whole thing, maybe because she found it easier to survive on her own, or maybe because shooting a little girl in the back of the head can leave someone feeling uneasy about life in general.

What was important about "Strangers"—at least for the majority of the episode—was that it brought everyone together into one cohesive band of survivors for the first time in a long while. Their unity was mirrored in those great peeking-over-the-horizon shots and wide shots of everyone traveling together; I didn't feel like I was watching a group in transition, I felt like I was watching the next iteration of survivors (with apologies to Beth, who is still missing). Even Eugene, Abraham, and Rosita seemed like vets, even though they're relatively new. Their solidarity was the exact opposite of what we saw in the second half of Season 4—when everyone splintered after the attack on the prison—and many moments before that, when the narrative was split to follow various branches of the group. And you know what? It felt great. 


So of course The Walking Dead blew it all up before the end of the hour. The first obstacle came  when the group happened upon Father Gabriel Stokes (played by The Wire's Seth Gilliam), a priest who wasn't good at fighting but may have been really good at avoiding fights. Rick was naturally cautious of him, giving him a pat-down and a side-eye so hard that his peepers did full revolutions around his head. It's clear that Gabriel was hiding something, because the man couldn't wipe the guilt out of his eyes and frequently retreated to quiet corners to curl up and stew. And judging by the scratches and hate-mail on the outside of his church, it sure seemed like the guy barricaded himself inside and left others to fend for themselves.

The Walking Dead has largely ignored the matter of religion during its run, but it was all over the place in "Strangers," and the show covered it in an interesting way. Gabriel is steely in his faith (that hand-written bible is an impressive feat), yet he's showing the same cracks as anyone else who's dealing with flesh-eating monstrosities. Were those childish Crayola-colored pictures of the Burning Bush the product of his congregation's Sunday School classes? Or were they drawn by him during a bout of madness? Was his hand-written bible entirely coherent, or was it partially a madman's diary full of bolded passages and nonsense? We don't know, which only adds to the mystery. And thankfully, he never once mentioned the Rapture or the end of days. I appreciate you staying away from a stereotype, Gabriel! It's not easy for The Walking Dead to introduce new characters effectively, but Gabriel's coming in with a fascinating angle. To be honest, I won't be surprised if we eventually learn that the guy wasn't a priest at all.


But let's got back to Carol for a minute. She apparently didn't want to remain with the group since she's all lone-wolf now and probably not looking forward to admitting that she killed another member to the rest of the survivors. She found a car and she was ready to bounce that whip up outta Dodge when Daryl asked what she was doing. "I dunno," she said, but her escape plans were thwarted when Beth's abducto-mobile sped by and Daryl decided that they should follow it. Convenient! Either Carol is allergic to sticking with the the group now, or she's undergone the biggest change of anyone on the show. While everyone else's story reset into complacency after Terminus, Carol's seemed to propel forward. 

Of course, that's not what everyone's talking about after "Strangers." That honor belongs to the episode's final moments, in which Bob ended up one-fourth of the way to the joke, "What do you call a man with no arms and no legs floating in the ocean?" Bob, despite the fact that he spent most of the hour being upbeat and putting a positive spin on the discomforts of a zombie apocalypse (you jinxed yourself, dude!), felt his optimism drain after the supply run with the Toxic Avenger zombies. A walker sprung up from the sewer water (didn't you see the bubbles, Bob?) and pulled him under, and the popular and obvious theory is that Bob got bitten while submerged and was counting the hours until he turned. How else could you explain his demand for one more big kiss from Sasha and his lonely strolls away from the group? 


During one of those strolls, Bob was captured by Gareth and the surviving Terminus members, who are now a band of traveling hunters. Gareth explained that he had to evolve, but if you ask me, he still hasn't provided a good-enough reason for why evolution must involve eating other humans. Apparently the "man's gotta eat" line is a favorite among fans of the comics, and yeah, he sounds cool saying it, but it represents the bullshit logic of some sicko who just wants an excuse to be depraved. Carl can survive on pudding alone, Gareth. 

The money shot of "Strangers" came in the final scene, when the camera pulled back to reveal Bob's amputated leg, his foot on the BBQ, and Gareth and friends gnawing on some freshly grilled Bob Leg... and in Gareth's defense, it did look pretty tasty. Some people are calling it the most disturbing moment in the history of The Walking Dead, but those people obviously closed their eyes last week when faced with the baseball-bat throat-slitting blood trough. However, we now have final, 100-percent confirmation that the Terminus guys are indeed cannibals, so Kirkman and Scott Gimple can finally stop dodging the question we knew the answer to months ago. 

The scene was a fun, horror-movie-style way to wrap up the episode, and it established Gareth and his "Hunters" as Season 5's official bad guys. But I think they still need more development if we're expected to perceive them as a real threat. From a tactical standpoint, they don't seem particularly dangerous; Rick managed to get his entire party out of Terminus alive, and after holing up in a secure encampment that they managed as if it were a corporate-owned slaughterhouse for who knows how long, the Hunters now face the new challenge of surviving out on their own (in contrast to Rick's group, which has bounced from place to place). Can they adapt that quickly? Yes, they eat people, but that only comes into play once someone is captured. I'll be looking for some other reason to be really scared of these guys.

"Strangers" was a fine episode of The Walking Dead that gave us an idea of what Season 5 will focus on. But I wonder if we're looking at another "Rick's group versus another group" scenario, which the show has obviously done before. Hopefully we'll find out sooner rather than later.



NOTES

– "Right there is why we're waiting for our moment," Abraham said. What was he talking about? Was he just referring to his "Washington D.C. or bust" speech, or something more? 

– Is Daryl's new role to kill zombies that are about to get Rick? He did it last week, and he did it again this week. He needs some story. 

– Michonne minus her katana feels so wrong. Someone get that lady a sharp stick or something. Blunt does not suit her. She's best when she's slicing!

– Hey Tyreese, it looks like you didn't finish off that guy from last week, as he was snacking on Bob's leg. 


Please avoid spoiling possible plot elements for those who haven't read the comics by clearly and boldly labeling any comics-based discussion. Thank you!


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Nov 10, 2014
wait, wait -if Bob is infected and just waiting to turn, then surely his blood is zombie pus heavy? If it is, shouldn't the Terminus now also be counting down to Z-Day? Additionally I did some research - I know, whoda thunk it right? - and apparently if you eat human flesh for any length of time it can cause alsorts of issues, not the least of them insanity........that snippet made me go hmm....

Do you know what I think would be cool, the Terminus (should that be Termini in the plural?) going zombie; but, because all the human meat eating anyway, there's some weird glitch with the virus and they retain more of their (albeit limited) intelligence than the usual zoms? (Do you like my nickname for the zombies? Sorry it's a work in progress so, you know, give it time.) Yes I know they're 'walkers' in the show, but in my world they're Zombies.....Zoms; or Zumbas....no, wait, that's a keep fit thing....sigh.
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Nov 04, 2014
"The scene was a fun, horror-movie-style way to wrap up the episode, and it established Gareth and his "Hunters" as Season 5's official bad guys."

Haha, did you enjoy eating those words upon watching the next episode :P ? I was actually curious even before seeing that if the fact that Bob was obviously tainted meat came into play, and I was surprised to see that even though it did, the question as to whether it mattered really didn't get answered..
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Oct 27, 2014
that was not her with Daryl at the end. Maybe Daryl escaped and met up with Morgan or someone else? TWD 503 Tonight
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Oct 27, 2014
Those guys from Terminus really should expand their diets. Really, all they'd have to do is add in a few onion pieces, some pepper pieces, some spices, and some small pointy sticks and they'd have something. Then, they wouldn't have to eat their bob meat so plain.
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Oct 26, 2014
How is Eugene supposed to save the world. Given most of the planet wiped out.
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Oct 26, 2014
Question is not whether he can save it - I'm pretty sure he can - question is: who would he be saving it for?

If all that's left are people like Terminus's, Joe's gang and so on: would it be worth it or would you be buying some time for what's left of mankind to finish one another?

Not to mention, children are the most vulnerable among the population. At this rate, whether they cure it or not, the human species will be effectively extinct in one generation.
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Oct 26, 2014
I did notice something that might be a little off. Didn't the doctor, Eugene Porter, claim that the cure for the zombie affliction was to "kill" all the zombies. Yet, if I remember right, in a previous season, didn't the Walking Dead cast discover that they were all infected with it automatically? This is why they've spent so much time spiking people and such who had died without being bitten. So, how would killing off the zombie hoard change anything, at least as far as the affliction is concerned? Everyone would still be infected. It would get rid of the menace of the hoard, but you'd still have the dead coming back to life; the affliction would still be there. So, in essence, killing off the zombies would not be an actual cure.
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Oct 25, 2014
I don't know what it is, but I really want Beth back in the group. The show needs some love triangle or better some sexual tension, cause on the relationship fronts it's all a bit automatic pilot.
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Oct 26, 2014
they need showers first
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Oct 26, 2014
True, as lovely as it is to see Daryl embrace Carol, Maggie caress Glenn's hair or Rick resting his head in Carol's neck we tend to forget these signs of affection are done despite sweat and dirt.

They care about one another so much that Sasha doesn't mind Tyreese has baby pooh all over him, Bob that Sasha hasn't brushed her teeth in days or that they have basically just came out of a sewer.

However, what's endearing for them may not be so for a potential sexual partner.
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Oct 25, 2014
I'd say relationships have more than enough tension, if only because Rick & Carol aren't quite clear yet which makes it a shaky ground for Judith & Tyreese, forces Carol away from Daryl and puts Daryl in the midde of it, which is the very last thing Rick & Carol want while coming to terms with what they did last season.

Abraham himself is causing enough damage by looking at Tara, Michonne and basically every girl that moves as a suitable replacement for Rosita. It may not be the love triangle Shane, Lori and Rick used to be, but its far from an automatic pilot.
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Oct 24, 2014
Just when I really start to like Bob, and now he's Terminus survivor steak? Or least his leg is, anyways. . .

I think Bob was bitten when the Walker, or Floater, pulled him under water in the cellar, which is why he was out crying in the woods. He was probably contemplating offing himself, and now Terminus is dining on infected Bob-BQ. It will be interesting to see their reactions if he lets them know about their oversight and if there is any consequence from eating infected steak. Will heating the leg meat to at least 170 degrees kill the infection, like salmonella?

I hope Bob has the last laugh on Garreth and crew, especially the douche from the cabin, where Tyreese should have made sure he was dead, by crushing his skull in with his boot.

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Oct 23, 2014
You show us Lenny and then leave him out. WTF? I really want to see him in this but I bet they ruin it by having him be the saviour next.
Who knew Bob's Burgers could get so dark?
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Oct 23, 2014
awesome
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Oct 23, 2014
It took me a while to warm to Bob so I was miffed when he took that ducking, there's no way he didn't get bitten. Now that he's leg has gone to feed the cannibals, I really hope he did get bitten and that those mofos turn in the most painful way possible. Cannibals ugh! RIP Bob.
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Oct 22, 2014
Ok, so that was the same guy Tyreese was beating on last week. I was a little confused at first. I really enjoyed this episode, I'm glad to see them taking pages from the comics and inserting them into the show (even if they involve different characters.)

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Oct 23, 2014
Honestly, it's been 3 days into it and I can't possibly see the resemblance you're al talking about.

That guy looks nothing like the one from the cabin.
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Oct 22, 2014
i thought it was dumb they dumped supplies off the shelves possibly ruining some items. could have been done much better/smarter, but i guess it would have been boring for the show to have them sitting up there just poking walkers in the head while they moved down below.

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Oct 22, 2014
obvious theory is that Bob got bitten while submerged and was counting the hours until he turned. How else could you explain his demand for one more big kiss from Sasha and his lonely strolls away from the group?

i thought this too, but no one mentioned it on the talking dead. thought that was weird.

also i thought it was weird that no one thought of the possibility that tyrese didnt actually kill that dude that threatened the baby in the little house in the previous episode. we didnt see his body.
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Oct 22, 2014
Carol was going to check on the guy in the cabin, but Tyrese told her not to and she respected that. She shouldn't have. I do think Bob was bitten and that's why he left the group. But, I have a twist on that. What happens when you eat zombie flesh? I am hoping the Terminus gang turns zombie, but very slowly and painfully. It would be a fitting end. I do want Rick to find Gareth before he turns and beg him for a quick death. Request denied. Oh, Father Gabriel is a priest. There was a picture of him and the zombie woman with the glasses before the Turn.
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Oct 22, 2014
The dinner scene lost some of its impact on me because I watched a saved episode of Z Nation on the weekend and they had the same storyline.
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Oct 22, 2014
Z Nation sux. I never stop watching shows once i start (until they are cancelled), but i stopped Z Nation after 2 eps. it sucked sooo bad.
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Oct 22, 2014
"Michonne minus her katana feels so wrong. Someone get that lady a sharp stick or something. Blunt does not suit her. She's best when she's slicing!" really that should of had Carol find her katana rather than daryl's crossbow.
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Oct 26, 2014
I'm still hoping that someone in Gareths group brought the katana along and she ends up getting it back.
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Oct 22, 2014
also, the ending with Bob ... oh man, will the group have to help another guy with one leg survive again j/k
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Oct 22, 2014
Lets say its not about the actors, they are still ok, but I definitely miss some sort of decent / interesting writing. This ep (and also a bit for the previous one) feels sort of cold and doesn't make you connect with the actors as before.

The cannibalism, for me, is over the top. I guess it is part of comics, but it doesn't seem to fit in the story line. And why, or even how, is it possible that they encounter way more other alive people compared to the first seasons?
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Oct 22, 2014
I don't know if it's just me, but at times I find Daryl extremely sexy!!
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Oct 22, 2014
Lesson learned,,,,,,,whenever you run across any cannibals.....make sure and take them all out....if not they will come back to bite your ass.
After being seared into my brain...those final few mins of the episode will be with me for quite a while.
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Oct 22, 2014
Guys, while responding to a comment just now, I came to a disturbing realization. Tyrese is this season's Andrea. He's not a "pussy", as some others have claimed--he's worse. He's making stupid ass decisions that are endangering the entire group.

Sigh. Why does this show insist on making *someone* on the show an absolute idiot with good intentions? This far into the zombie apocalypse, everyone should have wisened up by now.
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Oct 22, 2014
True but at least Tyreese did not go into a flooded basement of zombies and risk getting who knows what type of infection, etc. That scene was really just a contrived scene, and they were stupid not to leave at least one person up top to keep watch.
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Oct 22, 2014
Also, I know they were basically allowing themselves to be sitting ducks down there with everyone going down, but I guess at least one person played RPGs before the apocalypse. Number 1 rule: Never split the party.

I guess they figured they needed all four people down there to take care of the zombies, and they couldn't trust Gabriel to have their backs if they left him up there. I can kinda see it. I mean, I would've tried to take as many of the zombies out from above first so that only two of them would've had to go down, but that's just me. I prefer to play it safe.
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Oct 22, 2014
I can forgive them going down there. I mean, they were hungry, there was a lot of food, and Gabriel had said he'd picked every other place clean. I probably would've considered the risk worth the reward too, though hopefully, I would've been a little smarter with the execution.

Here's something to consider though: how did they get all that food out of the basement? The stairs gave out when Gabriel tried to scamper up in his panicked state, so did they device some sort of pulley system? I can see them getting out using the metal shelving, but those containers would be way too heavy to lift up over their heads, and with all the water damage, there'd be a risk of more of the floor collapsing.

Also, why were the zombies even active? They were down there at least a year, right? I think it's safe to assume that they tried to hole up down there, someone turned, and all was lost. So at some point, those zombies would've tripped or lost their balance in the water, and without any outside stimuli, they would've just stayed down. That obviously happened at some point since their entire bodies were waterlogged even though the water wasn't quite waist deep. Also, that much time in the water, shouldn't the flesh have just fallen right off the bone with the slightest movement? *shrugs*
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Oct 22, 2014
Reply to your last comment that has no reply feature--drat! Yes, that woul have been cool if others had risen up, but how would they be anchored underwater and not float to the top? I suppose that being waterlogged makes them heavy; otherwise, there isn't much to them but skin and bones so they should float pretty easily--except for the waterlogged issue. Am I making sense? lol!

I must not have seen all of the containers down there, but that makes sense. It must have taken a long time to get all that stuff up to the main floor.
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Oct 23, 2014
Actually, I think becoming waterlogged as the opposite effect. That's why when someone drowns, the body often isn't found until much later, once the body rises back up to the top. Dead people sink, then float back up to the top after a few days. So I guess you're right, the zombies couldn't have been waiting for unsuspecting victims to just happen by. Damn you, science. :(
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Oct 22, 2014
Good point about getting the food out. Frankly, that execution would have been more interesting to me as a viewer than seeing a bunch of water logged zombies. ha ha! And, yes, the zombies should be pretty "rotten" after 2 years unless they didn't turn until much later. Maybe the people retreated to the basement just a few months prior to this--after Gabriel denied them entrance to the church. Greg Nicotera said they were trying to make the walkers look like they had melting skin, so I assume they were trying to capture that type of decomposition that you mentioned.

For me, I think the zombies just are not that scary anymore unless it's an unusual situation like when the horde broke through the prison fence last season and Rick and Carl were the only ones on guard. These water zombies just were not that scary. As for Bob getting bitten (which is likely what happened), that was kind of a stupid mistake on his part.

Another point--where did they get those big plastic containers and carts for transporting the food? It would make sense for the food bank to have items like that but you'd think all of that stuff would have been looted by now.
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Oct 22, 2014
Some of the containers were in the basement. Remember how Bob was messing with one before he got pulled in for an underwater kiss? I'm not sure how he could've avoided the attack. I mean, the water was *not* clear, so there could've been any number of sleeper zombies resting at the bottom. *That* would've been interesting. Like if they'd all gone down the stairs, and suddenly, dozens of zombies just rise out of the water? Opportunity lost.
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Oct 22, 2014
Theory: the cannibals actually saved bob's life by amputating the bitten leg, and they all get infected and die while bob escapes and starts walking around with crutches like Hershel.
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Oct 22, 2014
you would have think they would have looked for bite marks before eating him. even if it was a bite on his leg, i doubt they cut it off fast enough.
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Oct 22, 2014
Loved the fist bump in the beginning. "Maybe I'm leading you into a trap so I can steal all your squirrels" line was funny and a walker with glasses! those must be rare. I do miss Michonne without her sword and poor Bob!
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Oct 22, 2014
yeah they are trying to add variety to the walkers. Did you notice the bearded one?
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Oct 27, 2014
No think I missed that one hah
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Oct 22, 2014
Stupid question, I know...but couldn't they have used long, pointy objects to skewer all the zombies in the head BEFORE jumping into the basement. And was it really such a good idea to push the shelves on top of the zombies, thereby submerging them and making difficult to track...and giving them the perfect opportunity to nom on Bob.
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Oct 22, 2014
i thought it was dumb they dumped supplies off the shelves possibly ruining some items. could have been done much better/smarter, but i guess it would have been boring for the show to show them sitting up there just poking them in the head while they walked by down below.
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Oct 22, 2014
Not stupid. In fact why didn't they just shoot the zombies before they went down there?
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Oct 21, 2014
I am pretty sure Bob is infected. I think all the Terminus survivors become infected with Bob's Zombie infested blood. ( Why did Bob went alone outside and starts crying before they capture him ?)
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Oct 21, 2014
He was either bitten under water which was apparently confirmed on some website, or he was a part of terminus originally and feels guilt for letting the group go there. Either way Its obvious he was a part of terminus before he met rick and the group. Gareth Knew his name and talked to him like he knew him. Why was it an act of the cosmos that they found bob? And what did Gareth mean when he said to bob you cant go back?
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Oct 22, 2014
on the season opener when bob was trying to reason with gareth he said we can go back we dont have to hurt eachother(something along those lines) and gareth said we cant go back. then gareth talked to rick a moment, the 'Hitters' were about to kill glenn and then carol's explosion went off. As for the thing about bob being an original terminus member- i freakin hope not. That would b aweful. All that time he spent with the group and now a thing with sasha. If he is an original terminus member he better hope he dies b4 sasha or CAROL gets word of it
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Oct 22, 2014
Hey i just saw an article that says the hunters eat Bob's leg are eating tainted meat. I am so grossed out by this episode now. Hannibal was better and sympathetic when it comes to these things. =D
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/10/21/the-walking-dead-bob-s-horrifying-secret-tastes-a-lot-like-revenge-2367190?lt_source=external,manual,manual&conversation=2369990
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Oct 21, 2014
Just came up with theory. Bob was part of terminus. He was sent to the prison to try to lure survivors back to terminus and in the process he became close to them. Gareth says to bob at the end of the episode that its cosmic justice its him they found and were eating. Explains why bob feels guilty cause he knows he cause the death of a lot of the group and almost got them all killed. Food for thought.
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Oct 22, 2014
Only Bob did not go to the prison. He was just wandering on the road when Glenn and Daryl came upon him.
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Oct 21, 2014
Why was the cannibal guy acting like it was such a big deal it was bob they caught? Did I miss something? Maybe bobs guilt at the end wasn't cause he was bit, but because he came from terminus? I remember when he showed up last season I always thought he was up to something and we never really got an answer as to where he came from. I think maybe he left terminus because he didnt agree with what they were doing and ended up joining the group that destroys terminus only to be eaten by the group he originally left.
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Oct 22, 2014
On any other show, I'd say it was a likely notion. But honestly, Walking Dead is notorious for missed story opportunities and I just don't think they'll go in that direction...but who knows?!
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Oct 21, 2014
That's because bob is part of the group that destroyed their home - hence the cosmic justice idea.
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Oct 21, 2014
Yeah but how did he know his name? I think its obvious they were hunting ricks group after terminus so I would think they expected to catch some of them. Just watch the clip again at the end. There's definitely some signifigance to Bob being the one they caught. Gareth also said You cant go back. It was definitely odd when Bob wakes up that gareth right away calls him by his name. I was waiting for Bob to say how did u know that and he didn't. It sort of makes sense if you go back. When Bob first showed up he wasn't the happy person he is now. I believe its because he was at terminus and left because they were turning to cannibalism. He had no hope for humanity. Than he met ricks group and his hope was restored. The first 2 episodes he was in he seemed really shifty like he was up to something or hiding something. Who knows but this is whats fun about the show! :)
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Oct 22, 2014
Eh... I LIKE that theory, but its probably unlikely. Why then, if Bob is a member or former member of Terminus, was he thrown into the train car with the rest of Rick's crew? Wouldn't Gareth have singled Bob out and done something different with him?
If you're telling me it was the sake of appearances (like some twisted undercover cop operation)...there's no point in keeping up appearances when you're finally caught and thrown in a train car.
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Oct 22, 2014
well, the Terminus ppl were skulking around at the beginning when daryl and carol were talking. Whos to say that they didnt hear bob being refered to s bob or when he was first captured(which we never saw) all we saw was rick michonne carl and daryl go in, the others were already in there.God i hope bob wasnt with their group at the beginning!
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Oct 22, 2014
And they have been following them.
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Oct 21, 2014
Awful episode after the first one. really bad. Lots of sitting and talking with nothing interesting or important said.

Another bad character introduced and a horrible actor as well. Not liking the priest already. Sometimes its better to skip crap from the comics.

Ending was brutal and pulled the show back to where it should be going at least.
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Oct 22, 2014
Stuff happened. Carol and Rick "made up" in a way. Tara came clean with Rick and Maggie. They decided to go to D.C. And what's wrong with Father Gabriel? I didn't think he was a "horrible actor."
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Oct 21, 2014
Sentimental episode. There were some nice reunion moments already good described here by Tim. Does it has to be like this always? An explosive brutal and excessive good episode that gets follow by a slow sentimental, kind of boring episode. It was kind of good to see Gareth again, even when he was eating Bob´s leg. Gareth brings something different to the show, his good soft convincing sales narrative is quiet the contrary to the speeches of other people. I just don't think he is going to last very long though. Sorry to see Bob go this way, just when I started to like him.
One thing: No way I believe Michonne is not missing her Katana, I mean it is her signature weapon.
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Oct 21, 2014
One of the Terminus Cannibals have Michonne´s Katana, and that is how she gets it back. Just a theory.
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Oct 21, 2014
i just cant wait to see those terminus bitches die! Especially the ass that wanted carls hat and had his hand around Judith's neck. In the words of black cindy from orange is the new black 'kill the bitch! OUT!" lol
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Oct 21, 2014
The Walking Dead pretty much sucks.
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Oct 21, 2014
Ya kinda knew Bob was about to be in trouble since they gave him so much to say and do this last episode. I hate that they are still doing that. Build the character up to kill him/her off like the audience is stupid. Oh wait...
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Oct 22, 2014
Yip me too. And then they went and introduced a new black male character - and then I definitely knew that Bob was gonna be offed. It is after all what happens every time they introduce a new black character - the existing character dies.
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Oct 23, 2014
See I wasn't going to mention that part but yep that's exactly true.
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Oct 21, 2014
Anyone else got the feeling that the scene where Daryl asked Carol if she needed any help and dropped the water was actually a blooper?
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Oct 21, 2014
I liked that they keep it though, they are lovely when they are goofing around.
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Oct 21, 2014
"Well, give the man a hand!!" Clarence Boddicker-Robocop
Too soon??
Excellent episode. Maybe better than last weeks.
Grade=A-
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Oct 21, 2014
I agree. It doesn't always have to be fast and action-packed episode. It was expected that after explosive premiere there would be slower second episode
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Oct 21, 2014
I was impressed at the leg eating finale... I didn't know I wasn't ready for it... I think I'm going to lose a beloved character this season....
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Oct 21, 2014
– Hey Tyreese, it looks like you didn't finish off that guy from last week, as he was snacking on Bob's leg.

Called it! ;)
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Oct 21, 2014
Yet another Wire guy joins TWD.. this is getting better!
All I want now is McNulty and Bunk as a Zombie kicking duo!
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Oct 21, 2014
Chopping off a leg to start with seems very impractical. If they're keeping him alive to keep the food source fresh, it would stand to reason that they'd want to bring him along when they travel. In that case, you'd want to chop off his arms first, making it harder for him to harm you and get away, but leaving him mobile enough to keep up under his own power.
One-legged Bob will need to be carried to keep up.
Stupid cannibals.
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Oct 21, 2014
Also, there isent enought meat to feed them on a starved arm. A leg on the other "hand" got a lot of nice muscle to feast on
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Oct 21, 2014
You've thought this out way too well! Hopefully not based on personal experience:)
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Oct 21, 2014
But they don't want to get out of their hunting ground, they are still using the same technique: to use the wounded one to lure the rest out.

Instead of Terminus, they are just using Bob.
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Oct 21, 2014
I love me some Döner Kebob from time to time...
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Oct 21, 2014
Pretty sure Bobs bit. He was way too 'life is glorious' not to have something like this happen. I'm holding out for Bobs leg being an infecty as a Zombie scratch and all of those Terminus Cannibals chocking to death on it. Zombie stealth attack by Bob as his last stand before he goes.
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Oct 21, 2014
Yes...but maybe he was bit on the leg that got the chop?

Wheels within wheels...
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Oct 21, 2014
I agree with you on the cannibalism part. It doesn't seem very ... practical to become a cannibal when your food source has become a scarcity. On the contrary, it seems quite cumbersome.
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Oct 21, 2014
Isn't the point that they turned to cannibalism to expand their food options as well as eliminate competition for other food sources?
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Oct 21, 2014
Then why would they start to specifically hunt for humans now? Those last few minutes didn't make it seem like eating a human leg was a chore.
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Oct 21, 2014
I have to disagree. I think the leg scene is far more shocking than the slaughter scene last episode.

It's one thing to think that you are going to die in a quick blow

It's entirely another to wake up, noticing your leg gone and watching people actually eating it. Imagine realizing that the only reason you are still breathing is that in a short while, someone is going to come up and chop another limb and start eating it. Then another then another.
You have no more reason to exist other than to be someone's meal and the amount of time you have to live depends on when they feel like snacking.

Even if he is rescued, he will still have no leg. Possibly another and who knows what. I would take the quick death over that horror any day of the week, thank you very much.


As for why they are cannibals, I haven't read the comics, but I think last episode cleared that up. They were part of the survivors of Terminus original group. The people who were constantly raped, beaten, tortured etc
They constantly had the motto there of you are either the cattle or the slaughterer (or something like that) so they adopted it entirely.
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Oct 22, 2014
My thoughts exactly. I was about to write a comment to the same effect. I think it's far more horrifying to slowly watch your body parts being eaten. There are no words. That explains why he wasn't even saying anything, it was the pure horror of the situation. It's good that this show still manages to surprise!
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Oct 22, 2014
Yeah, I was totally surprised they did something that dark on screen. I mean we all guessed they were cannibals (haven't read the comics) but to actually see that on screen is something entirely different.

Huge improvement over last season.
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Oct 21, 2014
Is this a case of one Wire alumni in, one out? When does Bunk turn up?
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Oct 21, 2014
The Hunters is a pretty short part of the comics with a quick, awesome and somewhat game changing ending (in the comics at least). But then again they didn't take seven books to open up the barn, only like, one, so you never know. Personally i love the Hunter-storyline in the comics, but this is completely based on how they executed it. I think that this season has been a bump up so far, but they are on thin ice since before. Do NOT drag this out for more than like, six-seven episodes. I guess that the scene I'm thinking about will be used in the eight episode as some sort of ending, that's okay as long as they keep putting out good episodes. I'm kind of afraid that we will get a Beth-episode to fill things up, and if so; I really hope that they don't focus only on her.

Gabriel was a little toooooo girly around walkers, I mean, sure, he has stayed inside a lot, but it has been pretty long hasn't it? Eugene also suffered of a little "new charactertitis" when they wanted to make sure we understood that he can't take care of himself, but he's already getting better. (you don't have to make the characters totally worthless for us to believe that they could use some help during the zombie apocalypse..)

The scenes during the dinner was awesome, good to see all of the characters behaving like one group instead of many small ones. Don't have much more to say about that!
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Oct 21, 2014
I have read the comics, and I know what you are talking about. On the TV show they made decide to extend this story for the final end sequence at mid season. Maybe not. But I agree, this story should not last more than a couple of episodes, three at the most.
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Oct 21, 2014
Yeah I read it too. I truly hope they move on quickly. It makes me uncomfortable when they go to close to the comics. I think the show does its best work when the characters ie, Dary and Merle, aren't from the comic. I get nothing but bored watching the comics play out on screen. This wasn't an exception.
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Oct 21, 2014

I would have like to see Negan, The Sanctuary... would do great TV show. And of course I will like to see Carl as he is in the Comics. But Negan must come to the TV The Walking Dead
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Oct 21, 2014
Hmm, I think Bob just might get the last laugh on the Terminus cannibals.
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Oct 21, 2014
I know Bob is relatively new to the group, but dude should have been on HIGH alert when another person of colour was introduced to the group. They might have gotten away from the trend last season, but just like dipping into stories from the comics, TWD always returns to it's roots. Being charming, getting extra screen time and being volunteered for a mission DEFINITELY should have tipped him off that his hours were numbered.

As for this theory of him infecting the Terminus people, I'm not so sure about that. TWD plays pretty fast and loose with it's rules, so I suppose anything is possible. Everybody's infected, but there's something about a zombie bite or scratch that's different? These people have been, at one point or another, covered in zombie guts and blood while almost constantly sporting some sort of open wound with no ill effects, so I'm not seeing how eating will do much of anything.
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Oct 21, 2014
If they follow this like they did in the comics, I don't think it'll much matter for the Terminus group.....
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Oct 21, 2014
btw Am i the only one who without knowing anything about the comics, knew they were in for some bad times when they got to terminus? i mean come on Every time i heard the name terminus i immediately went to the word terminate! OXY moron guys! "Terminus. Those who arrive survive" ? More like Terminate!Those who arrive will help us survive-by eating them!
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Oct 22, 2014
What makes you think you were the only one who suspected bad things at Terminus? Every viewer I know, including me, knew it would be bad. The characters on the show did not know, although Rick's group was a wee bit more cautious than Glenn's group.
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Oct 22, 2014
i meant just seeing the signs b4 anyone got there.Also no need to sound rude i was simply asking if anyone else thought that.
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Oct 22, 2014
I wasn't trying to sound rude, but your post sounded like everyone else on the forum was acting surprised that Terminus was a bad place. I guess I misunderstood your meaning. You're right; it was pretty stupid for them to expect good things at Terminus.
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Oct 21, 2014
Terminus, Latin, means 'destination'. As in 'Come here and you're at the destination of your survival travels. You won't have to go anywhere else.'
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Oct 21, 2014
Actually, Terminus isn't in the comics so everyone was in the blind. But yeah, I think that there was a universal understanding that Terminus was bad.
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Oct 21, 2014
But... if the Terminus cannibals ate Bob's leg.. okay, so everyone's already infected and roasting something probably kills the ... virus or whatever it is... It means nothing that an actively infected Bob was being eaten? Disease-wise?
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Oct 21, 2014
The rules haven't really been clearly defined on this virus or how it can be transmitted across the board, but in most cases, not many "living" organisms survive over 200 degree temps.
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Oct 21, 2014
Looked like Bob was medium-rare. Is that enough to kill zombie-coli?
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Oct 21, 2014
Oh, I don't eat anything with a face.
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Oct 21, 2014
Well. it's kind of established that everyone is infected in a sense. But the bite or scratches from a Walker are deadly in of themselves. So the odds are that Bob is not FDA approved and wasn't "prepared" properly. Even if his leg wasn't laced with nasty Walker germs...it's still in him and could be growing.
Think about this....Bob will soon be getting a fever and looking sick. If you are the cannibals you will assume it's because you took the dude's leg and his body is in shock. By the time they get done with more Bob, they will be sick themselves.
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Oct 22, 2014
FDA approved? Classic! Awesome line.
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Oct 21, 2014
I don't understand something . Bob knows cutting a bitten limb ASAP can save a person (see Herschel). So, if he has bitten, why didn't he tell the others so they could cut his leg?
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Oct 21, 2014
Who's to say he was bitten in the leg?
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Oct 21, 2014
Well, I think we would have noticed a zombie so close to the surface to be a biting in another part. But you are right, it has not been proven.
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Oct 21, 2014
Bob was pulled under water. He could have been bitten just about anywhere...arm, torso, neck, etc.

As for what was noticeable, TWD has always had a high suspension of disbelief when it comes to stuff like that ;)
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Oct 21, 2014
Now I know what Bob's Burgers are made of.
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Oct 21, 2014
LOL am i the only one that remembers bob being in CECIL B. DEMENTED? he was funny in that...didnt he huff paint in that movie? huffing and drinking. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAd bob lol jk! that movie was funny tho
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