The Walking Dead "When the Dead Come Knocking" Review: The Cabin in the Woods

The Walking Dead S03E07: "When the Dead Come Knocking"

If you're looking for a solid blueprint for future "non-event" episodes of The Walking Dead, you can't do much better than "When the Dead Come Knocking," a flat-out entertaining hour that put things in place for a midseason finale that appears to be only the beginning of the impending war between Team Prison and The Woodbury Militia.

Just as humanity has been ripped out of many of our characters as they struggle to survive this kill-or-be-killed world, so too has subtlety been ripped out of the show. There aren't many original philosophical questions left for The Walking Dead to ask, so the future of the series will rely a lot less on thought and more on cracking skulls as it transforms into the ultimate road-trip-without-a-destination horror movie.

"When the Dead Come Knocking" understood this notion and had a blast being sinister, particularly in the scenes with Maggie and Glenn in the post-apocalyptic world's lamest bed-and-breakfast. Merle and The Governor were just plain rude to the little lovebirds, throwing punches instead of saying "please" and playing one-sided strip poker with heavy implications of savage rape in an attempt to learn the location of the rest of the group. Credit where credit is due: Glenn showed a lot of moxie by not giving up the details of the prison even as Merle threatened to cut off his schnozzle and later gave him a hungry new roommate; the latter event resulted in one of The Walking Dead's best sequences ever as Glenn became a man and a half in taking out that walker while duct-taped to a chair. What a frickin' badass! And that roar he let out after putting the chair leg—which was still taped to his arm—through the zombie's temple was a proud moment for breaking stereotypes of Asians on television everywhere. I kinda wish he had said some cool one-liner, like "Have a seat!" or "Chair today, gone tomorrow!" when he killed the zombie, though.

Maggie also held her ground for as long as she could and steeled herself to be forcefully "governed" rather than give up the location of the group. That scene in which The Governor made her strip and pushed her head onto the table could have gotten real bad real quick if he'd actually gone through with it, but it appears that even the television version of The Governor has limitations on what he is and isn't willing to do. The Walking Dead under close watch for its gratuitous violence, and adding a rape would only draw the wrong kind of attention to the show. Those who've read the comics know that a similar scene didn't pull up short, so I'm assuming there was some discussion of what should have been done here and it was the right decision. No one wants to see rape except for virginal Japanese business men with schoolgirl and tentacle fetishes. Rape sucks. There, I said it.

It was only when The Governor put a gun to Glenn's forehead that Maggie reluctantly blurted out "prison." If we're being honest here, I probably would have spilled everything as soon as Merle started taping me to a chair because I have hairy arms and that stuff hurts coming off! But seriously, in this day of every man for himself, the amount that MagGlenn was willing to endure earns mad respect. The real scary part, which I'm surprised the episode didn't focus on more, was that Maggie and Glenn could hear each other while they were in separate rooms. I don't like to commend despicable behavior that often, but that was some good torturin' and Merle and The Governor each deserve a raise.

The same cannot be said of Milton, The Governor's head scientist who's been forced to test his hypotheses the same way wizards did in medieval times. His haphazard experiment to find out whether old Mr. Coleman would retain some of his human consciousness after he turned was about as well thought out as an experiment to determine whether an alligator would eat steak off your face. Maybe it's just me, but I would have restrained that almost-corpse a lot sooner than they did. And if raising a hand was the key signifier in the experiment, why not restrain Old Man Coleman just above the elbow rather than unshackling his attacking arm? Now Milton has zero data to publish for his weekly 'zine and the wait for another Woodbury resident to come down with cancer will be unbearable. The blasé attitude toward zombies by some characters on this show can be maddening at times, and no quest for knowledge is worth letting a zombie flail freely. That's how these zombie apocalypses get started in the first place. C'mon, scientist! I'm beginning to doubt you were even a scientist before the dead started rising.

Back at the prison, not everyone was getting along. It's hard to tell if Carl made the call on his own to save Michonne, who picked the perfect time to faint from her wounds after her long walk to the prison. Upon her arrival, she was treated erratically, with Rick offering help one moment then squeezing her bullet wound the next. Michonne kind of deserves it with her bitchy attitude, which is becoming quite the chore as the season progresses. We don't know her anymore than we did when she was a hooded figure saving Andrea at the end of Season 2 and the only thing I've learned about her since is that she has a nice butt. I'm still not sure why she agreed to go back to Woodbury with Rick and company given her loner attitude. Michonne, you are truly an enigma that I am not going to try to solve.

That scene in which Rick, Daryl, Oscar, and Michonne stumbled into a hermit's hideout and stabbed him in the back after he made a break for the door is a pretty good indication of how far this series (and its characters) has come since its first one-and-a-half seasons, and it may be my favorite scene in the whole episode despite it being a throwaway. In the old days, there might have been a lot of contemplation and discussion of what to do with this innocent crazy loner who thinks he's still fighting the Civil War that may have dragged out for a few episodes, but now the apocalypse veterans stab first and save the moral dilemmas for how to kill people and not if they should kill people. This show is done playing around, and the indications are very much that Rick and his group are done saving people despite our first reaction to be "Save the Humans!" I don't know what the hermit was doing in that cabin or why his dog was taking the "play dead" trick that seriously, all I do know is if some strangers came into my house and woke me up while I was trying to sleep I'd run for the door too. R.I.P. clueless mountain man, we'll miss you.

"When the Dead Come Knocking" successfully set up the finale without feeling like it was doing so. Every story was interesting (the lack of Andrea and The Governor's developing love story helped a lot) and chugged along nicely, leading to a finale where both parties, unbeknownst to each other, are ready to attack. Will the two assault teams meet halfway between their home bases or will Carl have to defend an assault by The Governor? All this is going on and there's still half a season left? Keep moving this fast, The Walking Dead.



NOTES

– Imagine how proud the grandchildren of the man who played Mr. Coleman must feel right about now.

– If there's one chit-chat that just made me laugh, it was Rick and Carl talking about naming the baby. You earned so much respect from me by shooting your mom in the head and then you undo it all by asking that your baby sister be named after your third-grade teacher? Nerd alert! C'mon, Carl. In a world where half the people who started on this little adventure have died in the last year, maybe you should pay some respect to them instead of your dead teacher. And what's wrong with "Asskicker Grimes"?

– I was really impressed with Bear McCreary's score in this episode. He hit both the chilling and touching scenes really well, and his work in this episode was his best on the series so far. The pounding fuzz at the end of the episode was particularly outstanding. Between McCreary and Breaking Bad's Dave Porter, AMC has the lock on outstanding modern original scores.

– Hello, Andrea putting on pants.

– Maybe "Hounded" should have been called "When the Dead Come Calling."

– It's a wonder that the rest of Woodbury is ignorant of all The Governor's evil practices, but fresh meals and springtime cocktails must help keep people looking the other way.

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After the awesome Glenn fights a zombie duct taped to a chair moment. *Slow clap building to a respectful and strong standing ovation* Just Amazing go Glenn.
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He has grown a long way from the delivery boy we met in season 1, he's now a man willing to survive and its been a priviledge to witness his character development
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I agree that AMC has some great composers on its network. Too bad they are being jerks about putting out original score soundtracks! Bear has been trying to get an album made for awhile, and just keeps hitting a wall with the network execs.
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I was really impressed by Lauren Cohen's acting during the scene with the Governor. The subtle changes in her expression from terror to anger to desperation multiple times was amazing.
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This show actually uses her acting range in a way Supernatural and The Vampire Diaries never did.
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I never watched either of those shows, so she's completely new to me.
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I made the mistake to watch her Supernatural "performance" in you tube, don't bother. She's much better in The Walking Dead.
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I don't understand why Michonne didn't tell Team Prison she knows Andrea and the one who kidnapped MagGlenn was Merle. 'Cos she must know about them, right? Andrea has certainly mentioned them and told her their names. How many Ricks, Daryls and Hershels are there in a Zombie Apocalypse? When she was watching Merle kidnap MagGlenn, he asked them where his brother was. And she knows Merle was part of Andrea's group and Daryl was still with her on the farm. That was weird. It would have made things simpler.
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Well, at least they named that baby. Welcome to your life, baby Judith. There's no turning back
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As a fan of the comics, I almost couldn't watch the scene with the Governor and Maggie. I had no idea how far the show was going to take it. I just kept screaming, "Not Maggie! Not Maggie! NOT MAGGIE!"

I don't think there have been many other times when I was so relieved a television show DIDN'T go there.
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Agreed. I prefer my dystopic apocalyptia as twisted & disturbing as possible in the normal run of things & while watching Maggie's scene, I was surprised when my eye started to twitch and I realized how repulsed I'd have been if they actually played it out. That's some good writers they have to make me care so much about a fictional character. It makes me appreciate the show even more.
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Repulsed is absolutely the right word. And I've never in my life been described as squeamish. Definitely a testament to how much they've made us care about a fictional character.
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This was a great episode! And what I really liked was the music and the sound. It was simple but haunting.
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Are we *sure* the rest of Woodbury is unaware of the Gov's extra-curricular activities with zombies? Wouldn't it be awesome if we found out the entire down-home, small-town population was down with desensitized brutality and an "anything for the cause" mentality?

I'm picturing a future scene where Rick and the others appeal to the people for help against the Governor, and the people are all like "no, we're all aboard the Governor Train."
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I think they know something is wrong, but probably just turn a blind eye to it, 'cos they're comfortable and safe. And we haven't seen so much "real" interaction between the Governor and his people. When the girls were new in town, I think everyone was putting on a show, like, "Look! It's paradise here!"
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Is it too late for Andrea to grow a brain?
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well given that Rick's group "left" her to die and the govenor is her new best friend... I wouldn't be surprised if she takes his side.
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I think so unfortunately...she'll probably end up shooting someone we love, maybe Maggie cuz she doesn't know her. Then later when Rick's group is like "WTF?!?!" She'll say something like 'oopsies!"
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In response to the comment below, it's my turn to say, oopsies ;)
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Maggie and Andrea were on the farm together for the whole of Season 2.
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I hope this doesnt happen but something tells me it will.
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This is Andrea we're talking about...
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Great episode -although I'm wanting to see a little more evil out of the Governor. I feel like they're soft peddling him a bit. Sure, he's crazy and a nasty guy, but so far he really isn't rising to the level I was expecting. Perhaps next episode will kick him up a notch.
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"Hello, Andrea putting on pants. "

yeah i rewound the dvr a few times to see that. i even put it in slow-mo once. very nice
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Wait, I'm reading your review with Todd Akin, and he wants to know if you mean that just legitimate rape sucks.
Michonne does have an amazing ass, I only realized it in this episode.
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I was surprised Michonne didn't describe the people who are the main soldiers of Woodbury. You would think they would get it that it was Merle. But she's not the most talkative person, whatevz. Glenn the mannn! The glennman! he's awesome. Killed the zombie like a baws. The whole thing with Maggie just left me like, THAT was the 'great' rape scene? Hope it doesn't happen altogether but I thought the interrogation was quite weak. They could hear each other so just do something with that, like make Maggie scream or something. They should've just done the gun-pointing in the first place. Crazy dude in the cabin, how the hell did you survive up until now?
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yeah the maggie scene was pretty pathetic... I haven't read the comics and after reading all the comments on last weeks review about some messed up scene coming up, that was a let down. Making some chick take off her shirt is used way too much in movies/tv. I was expecting something way more gruesome, not necessarily rape.
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I know! He could have made her lick a dirty sponge or something...No imagination...
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He survived by staying really warm and cozy, under that blanket.
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when you think about it, it's been what, a year since the shit started? Not that long for some crazy hillbilly to survive in a cabin, but still a bit of a stretch.
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hahah dirty sponge... nice one. anyway, i mean if he's that crazy that he thinks in a zombie apocalypse cops still protect you, well, he might think the zombie's knocking on his door are Jehovah's witnesses or something.
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Bear McCreary has been doing the best scores on television since his brilliance first gained notice on the reboot of "Battlestar Galactica".
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Despite the small hick-ups in plot, zombie inconsistencies and an occasional character black hole (Michone, who, if ever does not snarl or sneer, it will be a revelation --> see overacting, and Maggie who seems to just have disappeared), I do believe WD may at the top of my list as TV show of the season (along with Homeland, Mindy Project and Go On). Most of the plot is to the point, most characters are getting more awesome by the minute (Glen, Carl) and Rhedus just does miracles with the lines he has. A great little show that could!
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- I like Michonne being an enigma.
- That scientist gives me the creeps. I see him getting a next "volunteer" to die just to be able to continue his experiments.
- I didn't miss anything when Glenn killed that zombie, the scene didn't need to light up the mood with a one-liner. Glenn rocks without words !
- Although Maggy wasn't literally raped, I feel that she was still violated all the same. It was a matter of the mind and the Govenor totally f'd hers ! I hope she recovers from that.
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I like Michonne and her mystery, but she should have told them about Andrea and Merle. What's to gain by not telling them??? That just seems like a plot device..
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I don't know yet, I dare say it is a part of the mystery. She doesn´t trust people easily, could be just that, she choosing to be in control of the situation by not telling these strangers everything (in case they decide to go differently about the rescue of their friends or something). It is also a bit of a puzzle that our friends sort of trust her so quickly into going to that city (which could have been a trap). I am also wondering if they would follow blindly her plan to go in.
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I like Michonne like this too
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In response to your comment above, they also took that prisoner dude w/ them. I know he earned their trust and all, but still...
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Glenn ROCKS !!!

.... amazing acting....
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Top zombie kill of the season, I believe...and the primal scream afterwards was awesome!!
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Michonne needs some character development ASAP
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Other than the awesome swordplay, she's somewhat annoying at this point. Always bitching and not answering any questions or being helpful.
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Exactly. Especially when she walked up to the prison looking for help and then said "I didn't ask for help". You kinda did Michonne...
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Almost forgot, so Andrea pretty much tappin anything in power thatz a little crazy...so if Michonne took over, bet Andrea would get with her. It's the end of the world, everybody straight? Andrea would swing both ways, still don't like her though
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They had 8 months together. I think she tapped that ass, already.
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exactly why michonne was so reluctant to leave andrea behind and then agreed to go back for her.. lol
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Glenn I love you!! Just when I thought I was falling head over heels in love with my first Red-Neck Daryl, Glenn you step up. You know just how to "pull a chair out." Made my night!! You a beast....mean that in every possible positive way.

Ok, so this episode was good, I'm not gonna knock it. The lack of Andrea was a plus for me, no fan favorite over here. The small moments they did show her, it was the cold hearted her. The whole there will be nothing left about Mr. Coleman, nice. Thank you for just killing Mr. Coleman. How out of all the people who have had first hand experiences with Walkers is he the one doing these experiments, he obviously has no clue what's going on. The Governor should take him for a walk, lol, let him experience first hand what's out there.

I was sitting on the edge of my bed 12 minutes before the show came on getting ready like I was at the movie theatre, so I'm not going to lie, they had me reeled in before the show even started...Also, I was sure this episode would tell us the kid's name, that was one of the little things I like to worry about in shows, which here....a major let down. Was that teacher Hott (wait that might be weird), was she just his favorite, or last teacher? My third grade teacher's 1st name is Jane, see how irrelevant that was just like on the show, oh, we are also facebook friends and she uploaded pictures of the me I was 15plus years ago, I don't care.

Back to the show, I loved the toss this guy we just stabbed out on his own porch as the bait and switch, we'll escape through the back. I laughed so hard as the commercial here that came on right after that scene was KFC "something something about eating fresh!!" Amazing add placement. In all honesty, if the governor would have raped Maggie, I would have stopped watching the show. I know, I know, the comics...but that's a whole different ball game, this is TV, it feels way to real. Like KFC.

Now, #TeamPrison, the whole grabbing Michonne's leg was ridiculous I was sure that maybe Rick should wait a second since she's attempting to give you information about your friends. She probably would've told you about Andrea and Merle too if you hadn't been a dick so quick. Glad the kid (Carl- who's come a long way since being responsible for Dale's death) decided to save her, she held onto that adrenaline rush all the way to the gates. Cut the chick some slack. Michonne must have a crush on Andrea like Tim Surette or something, I would not have went back.

Fav Moment of all this episode, the Beast Glenn:
Interview with the new world head of Security...
So Glenn, how did you get this position?
Glenn: It all started with this crazy guy Merle, a weird basement, some baby formula, and a Walker that didn't want none!
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"– It's a wonder that the rest of Woodbury is ignorant of all The Governor's evil practices, but fresh meals and springtime cocktails must help keep people looking the other way."

This is the same type of phenomenon that aided Hitler's rise to power. Combine fear, desperation, powerlessness and hopelessness and you get a population of bystanding sheep willing to go along with anything so long as they believe their ferocious wolf is keeping the other ravenous wolves at bay. Before long, the individuals believe the machine and its momentum have grown too powerful to be diverted and to speak up in opposition would only be suicide.

However, I think if the good little folks of Woodbury saw the bubbling wall of severed heads, they would feel more motivated to put the brakes on the Governor.
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Very good episode. Glenn was totally badass, and I really liked Maggie's scenes too. But why didn't Michonne tell them about Merle and Andrea? That part didn't make any sense to me. She knew that Glenn and Maggie belonged to the same group as Merle's brother, and she knew that Andrea used to be part of that group too. And what's with all this "I didn't ask for your help" nonsense? Her reasons for going to the prison in the first place must have been these:

1. To get her gunshot wound treated.
2. To get the protection of others until she has healed or died.
3. To let them know about Glenn and Maggie and deliver the supplies they had collected, as a favor to some friends of a friend, or as payment for 1 and 2.

Maybe also to get them to help her get Andrea out of there, but I expect that she's the sort of person who would rather go alone. So it would have made a lot more sense for her go in there with a "I'm injured and I have news and supplies for you" attitude, instead of a "I didn't ask for your help" attitude.

She should be concerned that Darryl will turn against them when he finds out that they're going up against Merle, so she should at least have told Rick about Merle.
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In a behind the scenes interview, the actress says Michone is keepings bits of info back because it gives her a sense of control in a tense situation. Can't say I buy it myself. Just seems like 'forced angst' to me. Where you add drama by making someone dumb or have them do something illogical. It's just lazy writing.
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it's just adding up to the ultimate 'OH MY GAWD, my brotherrr' drama-moment. and ofc the 'Andrea! you were alive????' moment.
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What is it with you and tentacle fetishes? I swear this is the third time you've made mention of it! lol

Great review though, I totally agree that Glenn was a total badass this episode!
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Lol...
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I thought this was the best episode of the season so far, hands down, aside from the one with Lori's death and not because she died Lori haters, but because that entire episode was so damn powerful. But on to this one!

It was gripping, powerful, EXTREMELY tense...just WOW. I thought they really outdid themselves this time - I don't get the moaners here at all. And on the matter of the Governor and Maggie's scene; I do not think for one second that he didn't do it out of moral qualms or guilt - he didn't do it because he didn't want to. Simple as that. If he had wanted to, he would have. He went into it thinking "I'm going to threaten her with it and she'll tell me what I want to know." And when she called his bluff, he backed off, but he never stopped because he had emotions or guilt or, you know, human feelings. People, this is the dude that killed an innocent soldier and then beheaded him; he is a sociopath. If he had wanted to rape Maggie he would have. It was a power move.

Again, fantastic episode and I'm counting down the days until the mid-season finale!!
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Very good episode, yep Lori hater over here, hahaha, so that was good too. The Governor didn't rape her because unlike the comics it's TV, that was my theory on the only reason he didn't rape her.
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Firstly - Product Placement = UGH - come on Walking Dead, your better then that!
Secondly - Asskicker is a way better name then Judith, seriously, what a stupid name, she could of gone through life as Asskicker, it's not like she was going to get teased by the other kids at school!
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What was the product placement?
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Did anyone *say* that they where Hyundai cars? If not, I don't see why it would bother anyone. Every car is *some* brand. I remember noticing the H symbol on the car as they were driving out of the prison, but it's not like when Tony Soprano said that he had done some research and Nissan is the safest car there is, or when Carmela Soprano was showing off her new car and telling her friend that it's a Porsche Cayenne, like the chili. And don't get me started on the topic of product placement in 24...
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The Hyundai Cars they drove
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I'm pretty sure someone named Asskicker is more likely to get teased than someone named Judith. Anyway, I'm glad they didn't name the kid Hope like they do on every other show.
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but still, naming your baby sister after your 3rd grade teacher... there's something really unsettling about that.
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What about Sophia? Oh, Carl...
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Judith is seriously disappointing. I was hoping for something a little more relevant. Hope was probably too on the nose. I'd have called her Miri - short for Miracle.
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I was so uncomfortable while watching Maggie's scene. I was literally squirming in my seat. I was just so glad it didn't happen.
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Same here, I grabbed the remote and was ready to give up on a show I love
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Not that good episode IMO, but as far as it goes GREAT SEASON!
Does anyone knows when TWD will come back, I mean, after its mid season finale...

- I figured, that in an post-apocalypse world, women/men would stop shaving (their not-that-everybody-looks-parts); so, I was really surprise with Andrea's Legs... Am I been so naive?
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agree, wasn't the best eps, plot hardly moved forward with the whole grampa-zombie thingy, and crazy cabin dude. But it was obvs just leading to the awesome mid-season finale :)) I hope. (as long as they don't drag it out..).
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While I was watching this episode, I got a weird vibe that Andrea would make a great big bad for a post Governor story. She's erratic, making her hard to predict, seems attracted to power, likes violence a tad too much, knows Team Rick's weakness and has a grudge against them (assuming they take down the Governor at some point, that will be two of lovers they've killed + the whole abandonment thing).
Besides, going down the road of character redemption followed by death would be boring - having Andrea evolve into a super villain would be way more interesting, especially since we've known her from the start (as opposed to the usual thing, where they introduce the villain then give us backstory)
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Note: WTF is in Andrea's bag that she feels the need to carry it everywhere? A change of clothes? Tampons?
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Tampons! And maybe a force of habit, the Governor crazy, so he'll do her on or off her menstration though, lol
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It's probably a force of habit at this point from being constantly on the move for the past year. Keep everything you need close to you in case zombies show up and you have to bolt.
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Maybe Andrea doesn't want anyone to steal her last few pairs of sexy undies (that she keeps hidden inside her bag). Who knows if she would ever find better pairs in this post-apocalyptic world...
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What I learned from this episode was that if I wrap myself with duct tape then walkers can't bite me :)
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If you're talking about Glenn's arm, I was under the impression that he blocked the walker bite with the chair arm taped to him & not just the tape.
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Yeah I think you're right, I'm pretty sure it was the wood from the arm chair that stopped the teeth from going through. The mad scientist used a protective sleeve but that looked like he used something stronger than duct tape.
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I wonder if I could bite through duct tape :)))
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the scientist dude did it also in several eps before. I guess it would work, just like Superman's anti-kryptonite suit :')
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But we were shown the Governor's men successfully using duct tape on their arms to ward off bites, weren't we?
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Another fantastic use of a miraculous product!
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Walking Dead just gets better and better and this time GLENN was the best.
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Funny Tim but thankfully Glen didn't do a cheesy action one liner and Michonne is getting on my nerves as well. I mean really how are all these secrets going to help her. Where's the logic in assaulting Woodbury and springing I know Andrea and Merle on the group. Thankfully good sense prevailed and no rape nobody normal wants to see such horror.
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But you have no problem with gore killings and man-eating?
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No your playing the splitting hairs game. The example you used involved a zombie. A woman being held to a table and raped is reality based and can't compare to fantasy gore.

What a phony.
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What is it with you and zombies? You keep mentioning them while there are non-zombie-related moments in TWD. Let's play your game: Rape by a Governor of a remote village in order to give away the location of your survivor friends that have barrickaded in a prison during a zombie apocalypse is not real. Better now?

What a hypocrite
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No troll that's not the point but since you want to be an ass about things have at it. BTW killing a person in a cabin and feeding him to zombies is not real.
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So, rape is real, killing a person in his cabin isn't. Great.
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No since rape entails worse implications than gore and zombie eating isn't real but rape is.
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Can't Michonne talk? I mean I understand that these are strangers and strangers can be a bad thing, but maybe implying that Glenn and Merle sounded like they knew each other could have helped. She has the sense to bring the baby formula, but she can't just say the guy who took your people knew you or he had a missing hand? Her character had just gone down after her awesome intro.
Best kills we've seen in a while though, with Glenn's chair kill and the hermit being stabbed and fed to the horde as a means of escape. Character development is great, but kills like this is what attracted many to the genre, and so its nice to see them once in a while
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Andrea needs to die, hopefully her and Michonne can gun each other down in the mid-season finale. Also, why did The Governer send Andrea in to take out the old zombie guy in the first place? Also, I've never done it in real life, but I'd imagine sticking a knife through the top of a freshly dead someone's head might be a tad more difficult than depicted in the show, just sayin'.
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Andrea running around with that gun in the dark in the 'next week on...' seriously freaks me out. I swear, if she ends up shooting one of Rick's group.....
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She's gained muscle mass, we just can't see it:) so it was easy. But I think he sent her with the scientist Milton, so he could go take care of business without the chance of her finding anything out.

You've never stabbed someone through the top of their freshly dead skull, whatttttt?!!? You living under a rock:)
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I always assumed it was so easy for them to knife people in the head because they'd been dead and decaying. Apparently in the WD universe, our skulls, which protect our brains from substantially hard blows most of the time, can be split open as easily as watermelon.
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This makes me think of Bio class when I broke a scalpel trying to cut through a foetal pig's skull. If it's that hard to get through something like that, imagine how difficult it is to get through a human's!
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I guess we just have to keep in mind that it is based off a comic book; hence comic book style violence.
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My favorite part was the commercial break immediately following the crazy cabin guy being graphically eaten. Within two seconds we went from bloody, bright red intestines being pulled out of his body to "The Walking Dead is brought to you by Kentucky Fried Chicken, see why fresh is better..." --- Really?!?! Was this intentional?
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I laughed at that too.
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dammit! wish I had american tv-channels :))) sounds awesome.
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That was so funny. I will not be eating KFC for a while....
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Certainly seems like it. Did it not make you hungry?
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I loved this episode because it had a lot of character development and I was surprised since they found Carol that she didn't have a little more screen time. I like how the two camps are trying to figure each other out. Glenn was the man! Maggie was the Woman!
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The scene with Carol, Rick and the baby is definitely my new fav. Absolutely heartbreaking.
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Tim was right, Carl said 3rd grade teacher.
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why andrea didnt tell milton what they learned back in CDC in atlanta, she knows walkers dont have humanity in them.
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Would have been pointless. No scientist is going to take second hand information of another scientist's work from a lay person. And for good reason, she could have completely misunderstood what she was shown.
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I don't know if its humanity they are looking for but atleast some resemblance of their former life. In the first episode when Morgan saves Rick you see Morgans wife constantly come to the door and turn it because something in her tells her she knows that place and maybe that is what they are trying to find out.
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Wow! This ep gets a 20 out of 10 on the bad-assery richter scale. It's hard to decide which bit I liked the most - Glen killing a walker whilst duct taped to a chair, or Rick and the group, killing the oldtimer and feeding his corpse to the walkers whilst they escaped out the back. LOL!!! this show is frickin' awesome!!!!
I too am getting a bit pissed of with Michone (although I have to say, she actually looked scary than the walkers when she standing on the otherside of the fence looking mean!)
I love Bear McCreary's work - ever since the wonderful score he did for Battlestar Gallactica.
To be fair to the residents of Woodbury I too would consider looking the other way if I got hot food and water, and shelter during a zombie apocalypse. I wonder what will happen to the town though? the only way I can see Rick successfully taking on the governer and his men is if he breaks down their defences and lets loose a bunch of walker whoopass as a diversion. Otherwise they are just plain outnumbered. Although having said that, Merle seems to be one of the few men left in the town that can actually fight (didn't the rest of the group that go out to fight walkers get killed?) I'm not sure if the other guys in the town will be a match for Rick and the group because of the easy life they've been living.
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Great episode, this was supposed to be a set-up for next week but still it was great in itself (the score at the end helped). The biggest thing however is 1. Andrea's behind looks gread 2. Michonne's behind looks great 3. Maggie's whole body looks great. WTF? Why don't everybody get along and have fun with these girls? Forget the zombies, people...

I also loved how the Governor decided that Maggie was the less hard one by threatening Glenn. In most shows and movies the girl is threatened and the guy is forced to give information

I'm wondering how much screen time next week's battle is going to take. You have 4 members of the Expendables (Chuck Norris with rasta included) against 1 horny English man, 1 old guy with one hand, 1 muscle with two-digit IQ and 10 militia that can't shoot a tranquilized rhino standing 2 feet from their nose. It's like 4 Dream Team players against 10 players from Angola
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I was kind of wondering what Michonne was playing at when she omitted the fact that she overheard the convo. between Glenn and Merle before Glenn and Maggie were taken. I thought she would've mentioned Merle and Glenn knowing each other and that he was asking Glenn about his brother. Meh. I guess maybe she didn't hear it very well or something.

The guy with the cabin in the woods seemed to be unknowing about the walkers and what the world outside is basically like. The confused look he gave when Rick said there were walkers outside, screaming "I'm calling the cops!", and trying to run outside pleading for help seems to suggest he's not aware of what the walkers are. You'd have to be a REAL shut-in -- like, in a prison kind of shut-in -- to be that oblivious after all this time.

"And if raising a hand was the key signifier in the experiment, why not restrain Old Man Coleman just above the elbow rather than unshackling his attacking arm?" Logic? How dare you use logic to question easy thrills?

Anyway, this was a really cool episode. I can't wait for the next one.
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Awesome episode, Awesome review. What I really want to know is who is Andrea going to side with? We know she likes powerful men even if they are crazy (she was all set to run off with Shane), but when she finds out what The Governor did to Maggie and Glenn will she turn, or is she just too mad at Team Prison to ever go back to them?
I think Rick only squeezed Michonne's wound because she refused to tell him where Maggie and Glenn were, and that makes sense to me. She was withholding information about their family and for all he knew at that point she was part of capturing them and was sent in as a spy or thief. But at least he didn't bend her over a table and threaten to rape her.
It's interesting that every conversation about last night's episode has the same attitude towards Maggie's almost rape: Genuine happiness it didn't go all the way. I surprised myself that the moment I thought it was going to happen I was truly disgusted, but I would have expected someone by now to be indifferent. We've seen innocent mountain men a few squirrels short of a stew killed, little kid zombies shot in the face, a kid shot his mom before she was really even dead, but the line in the sand is rape. I don't know if it says something about this fan base or people in general but it's surprising to me.
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That is a really interesting point. I felt the same way - I could handle all the violence, but rape seemed a step too far. I think it might be because the violence in the show doesn't feel real. I mean in the context of the show it does, but when in real life would a zombie kid get shot in the face? But the rape scene - it felt like something that could and does happen in real life, and that made it much more horrific than the other stuff we've seen. Plus which there was no justificiation for it. Practically all the violence in the show happens in the context of a 'them or us' situation. Take the death of the old timer for example - if they'd debated and let him go or failed to restrain him they probably would all have ended up as walker food.
I think it's a good thing that the fan base draw a line in the sand at rape. It show that we are not completely desensitised. Even if we do like things a bit gory! :-)
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Well said. I can take all the gore, but two things that got to me in the series were Rick's reaction to Lori's death and the almost rape. Both of which are very real situations. It's these kinds of scenarios/character moments that give this show it's respectability as a drama.
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"Siddown, bitch!" is a Glenn catchphrase that might have been great. More like Glenn L Jackson.
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Brilliant! If Glen did say a line, that should have been it! I like that he didn't though. It felt more real. the primal scream was much better.
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Although that would have been the perfect line for Jesse Pinkman in that situation!
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Oh, definitely. We don't want TWD characters putting on shades and saying cool things like that! :D
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By the way Tim, you're a fan of The Wire surely. So I'm sure you know of a certain actor coming into the series shortly to play a certain character. We'll both look forward to that. ;)
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"C'mon, scientist! I'm beginning to doubt you were even a scientist before the dead started rising."
Bingo. Milton = Eugene. He told The Governor he was a scientist and may be able to bring his daughter back. That's why he looked shocked/scared when his experiment failed, he NEEDS it to work. He isn't muscle, and he isn't female. What use is he to the Governor?
Milton will escape and meet up with Abraham, feeding him the bullshit story Euge told Abe in the comics.
Come on Tim, I'm beginning to doubt that you've even read the comics past the known point of what you have to review of the show.
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I have my doubts regarding Milton's longevity. Anyway, his behavior was fairly stereotypical of scientist types. I don't know what kind of scientist telecommutes, but it's safe to say he was fairly reclusive--no family, no friends, no coworkers. Dude apparently didn't even have a weekly D&D group. But I digress... as a scientist, he was so focused on the results that he overlooked the dangers of what he was attempting. Maybe since he telecommuted, he wasn't familiar with OSHA's zombie guidelines? It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the original Day of the Dead had some similar elements.
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For a show that was ever so close to being an utter disappointment this season has completely redeemed it. Each episode this season has been very solid and this one was no exception. I know everyone but Rick is pretty much fair game for a meeting with the reaper, but if Glen is on that list any time soon I will be disappointed. Glen and Daryl have been pretty much the only two characters who have avoided most of the poor writing from previous seasons and certainly my favorites.
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Michonne is growing fast as one of my favorite characters, I don´t find so difficult to understand her attitude, if she has been out there alone against the walking dead all that time. I believe her interest in going back to Woodbury is basically Andrea. What else could it be. I think the scene between the governor and Maggie was meant to tease us with the comics announced rape. I'm also glad it didn´t happen. But the tease felt strange.
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and for the 2nd week in a row... Andrea's ass FTW!
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Andrea should put her pants on and get her badassery back. They making her again behaving like silly cow. two or three episodes in a row walking back and forth. c'mon I was afraid this episode will again drag some things on like Andrea snicking around making up her mind and prison folks are walking back and forth searchin Glenn. But thank god some things went forward a bit faster. still I'm irritated that all ended when they got to Woodbury. I thought so. anyway will see how it's gonna play out in mid seas finale. and Michonne should be more willing to talk, to articulate things to folks, for example that she knew Andrea. all she does is looking with frown and not talk. is she shy or something?
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She never really found her badassery in the show. We kind of saw a hint of it when she killed all those zombies right before she sat on Shane... there was also the incident where she almost killed Daryl because she was stupidly feeling empowered and decided to take the shot instead of letting the guys move in quietly.

Really, TV Andrea has been pretty much nothing but bad decisions from the very beginning. I'm hoping she'll redeem herself when she runs into Rick's group, but right now? I'm wishing Dale had left her at the CDC. She's nothing like the Andrea from the books.
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A very well done episode. It might be my favorite thus far. Also if Rick ever goes down. I vote Glenn for the leader of the group. I was surprised by the head butt to Merle, good job Glenn.
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