We Finally Have Those 2012 Dead Pool Winners You Asked For

You've waited and waited and waited some more, and now those of you who've been so patient (and even those of you who haven't been so patient) are about to get some answers regarding last year's Dead Pool winners. We're gearing up to launch the 2013 edition next week, so we figured it was high time to double-check our math and crown some champions. We'll keep this short:

Congratulations to ...

1ST PLACE: JordanClark2 (42 points)

2ND PLACE (TIE): Neksmater and hannah_, (41 points)

3RD PLACE: DraicKin5 (39 points)

4TH PLACE: AggelikiSetsi (37 points)


In the end, it came down to the tiebreaker. The highest score was 37 points, which resulted in a five-way tie between Jordan, Neks, Hanna, Draic, and Agge. We factored the tiebreaker by awarding up to five extra points, depending on how soon someone's chosen tiebreaker show was picked up for a full season (+5 after two episodes, +4 after three episodes, and so on)Jordan had The Mindy Project (+5 points), Neks had Vegas (+4 points), Hannah had Revolution (+4 points), and Draic had Go On (2 points). Agge didn't have a tiebreaker (whoops!). 

Anyway, the simple reason it took so long for us to tell you this is that we were trying to build a leaderboard that would display scores for everyone who entered, and the plain old truth is it never happened, and then we had to move on to working on other things (like show communities!). Sorry about that! Will you please forgive us? We promise it won't happen again this year!

For those of you who'd like to tally your final score at home, we've posted the final point totals for each of last fall's new shows below (only eight of them are coming back this year!), and you can find your Dead Pool 2012 list at the following link:


www.tv.com/users/[Insert your case-senstive TV.com user name here]/lists/deadpool-2012/


666 Park Avenue: 6 points

Animal Practice: 8 points

Arrow: -2 points 

Beauty and the Beast: -2 points

Ben and Kate: -2 points 

Chicago Fire: -2 points

Elementary: -2 points

Emily Owens, M.D.: 7 points

Go On: -2 points

Guys With Kids: -2 points

Last Resort: 6 points

Made in Jersey: 11 points

Malibu Country: -2 points

The Mindy Project: -2 points 

The Mob Doctor: 5 points

Nashville: -2 points

The Neighbors: -2 points

The New Normal: -2 points

Partners: 7 points

Revolution: -2 points

Vegas: -2 points


Have a great weekend, everyone! And check back next week for Dead Pool 2013!

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16 points in the end so not too shabby for a first go
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Wow my first dead pool ever! 2nd place! TOTAL beginner's luck
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When do we get to start the 2013 dead pool?
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19 well

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Woo, first ever Dead pool and I got 14! Brutal!!
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Well, I got 3/5 that were cancelled before the season ended, and had Malibu County, which was cancelled at the end. Chicago Fire still trudges along, though its ratings still aren't that great (is it a good show?). Overall, I'd say my picks weren't bad.
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23 points. Nailed Made in Jersey, Animal Practice, and 666 Park Ave. Minus 2 for Guys with Kids. Oh well, I did respectable.
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Oh and 5 for The Mob Doctor too, so 28 points.
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13 points for Emily Owens and 666 Park, but then got -2 for all those shows that aren't even worth mentioning...go figure! So I ended up with 5 points! Geez, did a lot better last year. Next time I won't take it personal (I was looking forward to Made In Jersey, Partners, Last Resort & The Mob Doctor so I didn't include them :/)
This year will be tougher though. A lot more entries and given 2012 it could go either way.
Good luck to all this year!
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I had absolutely no beginner's luck, even though this was my first year playing. -5 points! Oh yes, I win.
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I think it'd be fun to see who the lowest-scorers are, too; mostly because of how terrible I did on this pool. Congrats to the winners.
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Damn, 19 points.
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A sad 12 pts with Elementary as my tiebreaker...

37 pts seems like a dream number, what were they clairvoyant?
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Congrats to our winners for having such wise foresight. Thanks for posting the results, staffers.
Yeah, so what you're saying is this will totally happen again, right? ;-) It's ok. A leaderboard would have been fun though. Don't forget, you can also just click "see all my lists" to find your Deadpool 2012 list.
Jeez, only 8 shows are coming back from last year, and this year's season looks like crap too, TV is totally dying, y'all! Deadpool '13 can't come soon enough (seriously, this season already started).
My list only netted me 19 points, and included:
  • 11 points - Made in Jersey (so obvs)
  • -2 points - Chicago Fire (WTF NBC, generic and expensive and not a breakout star, naturally you throw money at it?)
  • 7 points - Partners (so very obvs)
  • 5 points - The Mob Doctor (FOX'D!)
  • -2 points - The Neighbors (whoda thunkit, looked like a turd and had a giant ensemble cast and no ratings, then the awfulness of the rest of network kicked in)
and Elementary was my tiebreaker.
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hm, 8 points.....neighbors, mob doc, malibu country, made in jersey, guys with kids and tie breaker chicago fire.

that was fun watching my score go down and then up and then down again.
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wait, 10 pts. do i count my tie breaker?
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I had 19 points with my tie breaker.
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I'm new to this... is the dead pool choosing shows that'll survive or that'll fail?
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5 shows that'll get canceled the soonest (points off for how many episodes air before the network announces cancellation) , and then 1 tiebreaker choice of first show to get a full order pickup. So 5 fails and 1 success.
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Ah, thank you.
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This was the first year that points have been given for tie-breakers, so really the highest score was 37. Last year's highest was 48. Only 11 people had negative numbers with the lowest being -10. 8 shows were cancelled, compared with 7 this year, however many were cancelled early enough to give 9 or more points. 12 shows generated negative numbers, compared with 14 this year. There's not that big a difference, but it was enough to result in more lower numbers this year than last.

Here's last year's results for those who are looking for them:
http://www.tv.com/news/dead-pool-hq-staff-picks-updated-ratings-and-commentary-26778/

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Wow - this is really interesting. Thanks for the analysis!
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-3 points, yay me! :(
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Oh my.
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I got 1 point. HAHA...goal this year is to end up with more than one point!
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I still think my picks weren't too bad but I only made 14 points.. Can't wait for next week!
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I think I'll pass, as I'm quite sure I did not do well. Thanks to TV.com, though, for all the hard work!
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Oops! I bothered... I got a whopping 3 points. haha.
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Good News - I chose The Mindy Project as my tiebreaker.
Bad News - I didn't need a tiebreaker because I chose The Neighbours & Guy's With Kids, which both looked legitimately terrible, and Go On, which looked too good for NBC to 'get it'.
Total: the -6 from the three above wiped out 666 Park Avenue so I finished up with 5 points courtesy of The Mob Doctor.
Conclusion - I'm still rubbish at this!
Roll on Dead Pool 2013.
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I can't believe I put Arrow on my list! I scored a lousy 4 (i guess, iwas too depressed to keep counting) but as a below comenter said, i picked shows that seemed dumb, and those are the ones that people and/or tv execs loved, apparently. Come on! Guys with kids? Malibu Country? and who could have known after The Neighbors' pilot? I guess I was only right with The mob doctor (dead on arrival) and Partners (ughh).
I hope i can do better this season
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10 points (not counting tiebreaker) - clearly i have different views than the networks on what should make it and what shouldn't. I had Beauty and the Beast, The Neighbors and Malibu Country in my picks.
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Rats 35 points total. Shouldn't've chosen Vegas as a tie-breaker show

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You weren't wrong, the network simply took longer to give it its full order, it was a crapshoot. Obviously you have the touch for placing so high.
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Man, I think I would have won if I played. I had... maaaaath..... 42 points!!! That is my favorite number!! Ahem, excuse me. Yup, playing this year.
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My problem is I pick shows that I think look dumb and should be cancelled and it turns out that's what everyone ends up watching. I can't believe I lost points on the neighbors. Ugh.

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How did I lose points on Ben and Kate? Didn't that get cancelled?
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It did get cancelled, but only after being picked up for a full season. If any show received an order for more episodes during the season I think we automatically lost points because technically it was renewed for those back-nine episodes.
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Wow, it's shocking to know that only eight are returning. I mean, I know its television and there's a lot of turnover, but it sort of surprises you when you look at it in a list like that.

Anyway, if my calculations are correct, I got 24 points, minus four, but plus five for my tie breaker, so 25. So you're telling me Guys With Kids got a full season? I do not remember that happening, oh well. I also had The Mob Doctor, Animal Practice, and Made In Jersey, which, I'm fairly happy with myself about.

Mindy Project was my tie-breaker, which I'm very happy with myself about.

Stupid Chicago fire. I underestimated what NBC call 'a hit' now days.

This upcoming season looks like its going to be a hard one. There were several shows you new would instantly do bad last season, this season there's a hell of a lot more bad it looks like, and not just in the comedies.
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PS - yeah, seriously, stupid Chicago Fire, what the french, toast? I also got suckered into seeing "ensemble cast, expensive stunts, low buzz, and then it's also not a breakout" being seen at NBC as a hit.
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You don't get points for your tiebreaker UNLESS YOU TIE. :p
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Dammit! And here I was being all happy with myself haha
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Good God! I was thinking about the 2013 Dead Pool and yall are just now putting out the names of the winners?! Haha dudes. I am ready for the 2013 Dead Pool to begin. Bring it on!
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Well, I've seen a few already and I'm definitely picking Ironside. "Shoot the hostage in the leg."

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How the hell did The Neighbors last so long?
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The pilot was TERRIBLE. But folks who watched it said it got consistently better.
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I left it off My Deadpool last year, and rightly so. There was just so much buzz about it (didn't matter that it was all negative) that enough people tuned in to get in another season.
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Congrats JordanClark2

Its amazing how all my picks were cancelled, but i still got a poor score due to the fact that 2 of them (Malibu Country and Guys with kids) didnt get put out of our misery until their seasons finished
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I may try one more time, but it's clearly a crapshoot. Made in Jersey was actually good, but it was cancelled during the first episode over the phone. Also, I don't particularly think Will Arnett is funny, but he still makes it to round 2. It's certainly got nothing to do with taste or logic. Like I said, it's a crapshoot. What did the winners get anyway?
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I ended up with 1 whole point last year! Woo-hoo!
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@JordanClark2 Congrats! Solid picks.
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Maybe you should outsource your arithmetic needs to India (or 4th graders).
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Also, when a reply is removed, presumably because it is spam, could you automatically remove the notification, too? Pretty please?
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"we were trying to build a leaderboard that would display scores for everyone who entered, and the plain old truth is it never happened"

That's alright. We don't need something that fancy (although we certainly wouldn't mind it). Maybe you can do something simpler, like add an automatic calculation of our points to our "my dead pool 2013 picks" pages.

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The dead pool was a lot of fun last year. I put several hours of work into it, not counting the time I spent watching episodes. I checked out trailers and ratings, and looked into which networks were more likely to cancel something early. I still think my choices were pretty good. But they clearly weren't good enough.

1. The mob doctor.
2. Partners.
3. Made in Jersey.
4. Malibu Country
5. 666 Park Avenue.

Tiebreaker: Arrow.

(For those who don't know, we chose five shows that we thought would get cancelled early, and one show that we thought would get an early pickup. "Early" means "after a small number of episodes").
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FINALLY. I had been waiting ALL YEAR for you to tell me my picks sucked.
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Congrats to JordanClark2!
And to everyone else: better luck next year, which starts next week.
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Can somebody explain what this is, I wasnt around when this started apparently.
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You really don't want to know.
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Before the fall TV premiere season, you try to choose which new network shows you think will get cancelled quickest, and for a tie-breaker, which new network show will get picked up for a whole season first.

You tally up the points based on the number of episodes remaining on their original order (most shows get about 13) at the time of cancellation. You lose points if a show you chose gets picked up.
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Basicly, a TV.com user selects new shows that they expect to fail (five, I believe) and the worse the show fails, the more points. I don't know all of the exacts and such though. I'm hoping to participate this year!
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At the start of every new TV season, the writers and users of TV.com get together to form a deadpool and take bets on which shows will be cancelled the quickest. You pick 5 shows that you think have the highest chances of being cancelled and accumulate points if they are. The number of points you get decreases as the show you pick continue to air eps without cancellation being order(for example, a show cancelled after 1 ep airs will get you more points that a show cancelled after 2 eps air). Shows that aren't cancelled and are renewed instead get you 0 points/negative points(not sure which).

In case of a tie at the end, you also pick a tiebreaker. The tiebreaker is the show you think is most likely to be renewed. In the event of a tie, the chosen show that got renewed the soonest wins.
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All the bad shows that lasted the year even though they were doomed killed many, many picks...
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Too many negatives. There were only 7 shows one could pick without looking points. What it really came down to was luck.
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It's true that you couldn't win it without getting lucky, but there's certainly more to it than just luck. Those who picked Arrow for example can't really blame their loss on bad luck. It's a game of skill and luck, like poker.
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Nope--pure-ass luck is the only skill required...
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No, it's analysis. Partners and Made in Jersey had bad buzz and bad marketing, the combination of no audience confidence and no network confidence told us that it was doomed. There are people who make fortunes on these sorts of things, it's their job to read these scenarios and make million-dollar deals based on it. So this is our fantasy football league, just because we do it for fun doesn't mean it's random, people do it for a living too.
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Of course, most of those people do worse than JordanClark2 and end up dead in a ditch with a mind full of chemicals like a cheese eating high school boy.
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Can't wait for the Dead Pool this year. I already have some picks in mind.
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Mob City is on my list
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Yeah. I am excited to do it this year! I didn't do it last year. I already know what shows I am going to select.
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