Vikings Season 3 Finale Review: How Do You Say "Psych!" in French?

Vikings S03E10: "The Dead"

One of the great things about Vikings is that it's steeped in real-world events, with one major caveat: Since it's a historical drama, there's a clear path it must follow in order to stay true to occurrences that've been documented by historians who've put their life's work into recounting what happened centuries ago, back before everyone videoed everything and uploaded clips to YouTube. But Vikings gets to add dramatic flourishes to its narrative because a lot of the actual "history" of the Vikings is based on legend and whispers. We don't even know if Ragnar Lothbrok ever existed or was merely the star of a fairy tale Viking moms told their kids so to get them to eat their vegetables and goat hooves.

Still, there are plenty of Vikings spoilers floating around out there, in mythology books and on Wikipedia. And so I've made an effort to not "read ahead," looking up as little information as possible about Ragnar Lothbrok. "The less I know, the better," I say! That's why I was entirely fooled by Ragnar's fake death in the Season 3 finale, "The Dead," an emotional roller coaster that left my mind zigging, zagging, and thoroughly entertained.

I completely believed Ragnar was dead from the wounds he suffered while tumbling off the Parisian walls, and I was crushed. After momentarily praising Vikings for sticking to what I thought was a historical blueprint, I muttered a string of expletives and began to mentally formulate a rant for this review in which I'd beg series creator Michael Hirst to ditch historical accuracy and write his own version, one in which Ragnar lived and flattened castles forever. But Ragnar's Trojan horse jack-in-the-box scheme—which led to him springing out of his casket after the French agreed to give him a Christian burial—changed all that, sending "The Dead" in an entirely new direction. It might not have been the tightest or foolproof of plans; apparently no one thought to check Ragnar's vitals, and only Bjorn was in on the ruse. But it was a whole lot better than Ragnar dying.

Instead, Ragnar—following his big push into Christianity—leapt out of his death box and sliced open the throat of King Charles' bishop, a move that may be more telling than his subsequent knifepoint threat to Charles and Princess Gisla. What was the point of Ragnar murdering the holy man if he was desperately hoping to be admitted into heaven and reunited with Athelstan once his time does come? Surely that has to be negative points in God's eyes. I suppose he might've been upset with the bishop for shaming him when Ragnar asked for the holy bath of baptism, but I'm pretty sure Jesus said some stuff about turning the other cheek, so maybe a few Sunday school classes are in order for Ragnar. The character's fascination with Christianity has been one of the more compelling components of Season 3 (and prior seasons as well), but I'm starting to wonder where it's all headed.

I've always respected Ragnar because he's usually a man of his word; however, that's why his deception of the French was peculiar. It also came at the very end of the season, leaving us to wonder who Ragnar really is. Is he a Christian? Is he an honorable king? Or do we throw all that out the window in the face of his murder of a holy figure and his order to squeeze in one last raid on Paris even after he was paid to leave just because he's a Viking? Ragnar told Bjorn that when Bjorn becomes a leader, he'll need to lead with his head, not his heart. But Ragnar seemed to be following his heart, which was full of anger.

And that anger may be rooted in Athelstan's death. Our parting gift from Season 3 was a bucket of gasoline on the fire of Ragnar's love for his dearly departed friend. As the Vikings sailed home from France, Ragnar called Floki over and revealed, "I know you killed Athelstan." We've always suspected that Ragnar knew the truth, but seeing it confirmed—and witnessing Floki's reaction—was a chilling way to say goodbye to Season 3. We have to assume that Ragnar heard everything Floki said to him while he was in the coffin, and even though Floki didn't confess outright, he was clearly pained by Ragnar's affection for Athelstan even after Ragnar was gone. Now was the time for Ragnar to say, "Dude, I know what you did." And Season 4 had better be the time for something big to grow out of a relationship tainted by jealousy and betrayal, because I can't handle anymore simmering.

Of course, "The Dead" wasn't all about Ragnar faking his own death. Rollo enjoyed a nice, meaty story, and that's good because his character needed it. He deserves to be more than Vikings' most imposing shirtless figure, and now he's caught between Ragnar and King Charles. Rollo decided to stay behind in France at Ragnar's request, likely to remind the French they're being watched. But the French used Rollo's presence to their advantage and Charles the Simple concocted a plan: If you can't beat them, let them join you. He offered Princess Gisla's hand in marriage to Rollo, which gifted us this lovely exchange and reminded us of why screencaps were invented:

Ahhh, the international language of love! Those two will be knocking boots in no time, methinks. But seriously, props to Rollo for learning how to say "hello" in French. It was such a sweet sentiment, and his grin at the end absolutely slayed me. I don't blame Rollo for at least considering Charles' offer of the title of duke and some land in exchange for Rollo siding with the French. I have my doubts that he'll actually defend Paris against Ragnar when the spring rolls around, but marriages in those days were more about brokering peace, weren't they? Ragnar's already had his nibbles of Paris, so why wouldn't Charles do like the British kings and employ Ragnar and his men to help him rid the land of his competitors, including his brothers who hate him? Whatever the case may be, I need to see more of Rollo and Gisla as soon as possible. That's going to be a lot of fun.

"The Dead" was an odd finale that wrapped up Ragnar's raid on Paris while also planting the seeds for more French interaction in the future. While there are a few lingering story threads that may go unresolved forever—like Ragnar's Christianity or his beef with Floki—the historical-based plots are wide open, with both France and England in the mix and plenty of trouble back home. Overall, Vikings closed out Season 3 in a very nice position for Season 4.


NOTES FROM ODIN

– Yo Count Odo, what's with all the BDSM? Gisla rejected his advances, but another comely woman was ready to do whatever she needed to earn his affection. Including getting flogged to satisfy Odo's kinks.

Vikings is sometimes compared to Sons of Anarchy, and Ragnar's fake-death plan was straight outta Jax's playbook.

– I love Princess Gisla's continued anger over her father not stepping up to be a man. Someone make her ruler!

– No Ecbert in the finale! That's slightly disappointing, but then again, the British didn't really need to be part of the episode.

– Was that a Viking Snuggie that Lagertha was wearing when she checked in on Ragnar?

– Floki to Ragnar's coffin: "I hate you Ragnar Lothbrok, and I love you with all my heart. Why do you tear me away from myself?" Awww, poor Floki.

– I've heard rumblings of dissatisfaction from some viewers this season, but I thought it was another solid outing for this under-the-radar drama. No complaints here.


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Jun 11, 2016
Anyone coming to this post from 2016? Anyways, I just spent the entirety of yesterday bingewatching the hell out of Season 3 and I loved it. Knew that Ragnar would come out alive but didn't know how so THAT was a shock. Athelstan's death is still saddening though.
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Dec 15, 2015
The more of Auslaug, Lagertha, Bjorn and Ragnar we see in Season 4, the better. I've pretty much had it with Floki, though he'd be a hard character to kill off simply because he is a master shipbuilder and knows the secret of navigation (as revealed back in Season 1) that led the Vikings to travel to their intended destinations so accurately. From the history books we know Bjorn became a great warrior and leader in his own right. Auslaug generates beauty, yearning and subtle ambition, and no Viking kicks butt like Lagertha. The Ragnar/Rollo/Gisla story in France should prove interesting and may well be part of the producers plan to extend the series somewhat for syndication as Aella will eventually have it in for Ragnar. Travis Fimmel is excellent as Ragnar. I'm not sure Bjorn's character has been sufficiently developed yet so that we will root for him to eventually extend the Viking empire, but maybe we'll get to 7 seasons and, by then, Bjorn may be able to continue the saga. History tells us that the Vikings came to the Grand Banks and L'Anse Aux Meadows - it'd be kind of interesting if at some points some other Vikings talked about hearing of a land far across the sea to the west.
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Nov 01, 2015
Ah but Rollo for those who do not know their history founded the Normans. The big prize is coming his way.
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Aug 30, 2015
what did ragnar ask floki at the end
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Jul 24, 2015
I just discover vikings and it is my new obsesion! This show is awesome and Travis Fimmel is amazing! I love ragnar!
-I hope Floki has what he deserves! I want ragnar to kick his crazy ass!
-Rollo, again? really? I hope he helps his brother when spring comes, otherwise he hasn't learned anything.
-I HATE gisla!! I want her head!
I loved this episode and can't wait for season 4!

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Dec 15, 2015
Gisla's speech at the end of Season 3 was a classic and I just loved Rollo's "Hello" response to her. Despite what she said, down deep she knows Rollo is more of a man than that scheming sadist Count Rollo could ever be. Just like making the priest Athelstan the grandfather of Alfred the Great, the writers made Rollo the ancestor of future monarchs across Europe. Clever, indeed! :-))
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Dec 15, 2015
Whoops, Count Odo above, not Count Rollo! My apologies!!!
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Jun 08, 2015
Wonderful drama, keeps close to what history we have of those times. Once I saw the coffin being brought into the city I asked myself how Ragnar would have heard of The Iliad and the Trojan Horse? The Princess's rant was standard fare - Frank women were strong and spoke their mind. (The translator was wise not to tell Rollo what she thought of him.) Love the detailing in this show: Floki's coffin, the jewelry, the long ships. If Ragnar cleaves to history and dies in King Aelle's pit then he may not waste any more time with trying to take Paris. Leave it to Rollo, whose descendants sat on every throne in Europe. Hope to see more of Saxon king Ecbert and his grandson Alfred (the Great) who in his time, fought the sons of Ragnar in eastern England. I wonder if Queen Elizabeth II watches the show, knowing she is a descendant of Rollo through William the Conqueror? Out of their bloodline they created the British Empire and changed the world. Ragnar's vision.
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Dec 15, 2015
I'm willing to bet that most viewers have not only googled Ragnar but also Bjorn, Aella, Ecbert, and Alfred the Great. I really miss Athelstan, even though he has been turned into a sometime narrator, but I thought it was ultra cool to bend history ever so slightly and to make him into the Athelstan who was the grandfather of Alfred, the only English king ever to be called "the Great."
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May 09, 2015
Call me ignorant/gullible/clueless but I did not even dream that Ragnar was going to leap out of that beautiful coffin and stab someone... anyone... in the throat! I was weepy and sad he had died and wondering about the future of the Vikings when he shocked the living daylights out of me, lol. Love it. Gisla's huge rant in French was priceless but Rollo's reaction was even more precious! I did not discover 'Vikings' until almost the end of the second season and binge watched the first 2 seasons. Re-watching Vikings from the beginning once more amazes and delights me at how slick and polished it became as the Seasons went on.
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Apr 27, 2015
To conquer Paris was a move made with his heart. For the good of his people. Not out of anger.
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Apr 27, 2015
If Ragnar's ploy wasn't fully evident in the penultimate episode, it certainly became even more obvious as the season finale went by (especially once he decided to privately discuss things with Bjorn). Reading that Tim genuinely believed in his death surprises me greatly (he might well be the only one out there).
Given the fact that this charade wasn't particularly believeable in the first place, at times I felt that the funeral scenes dragged on. Still, it gave the show a chance to include some meaningful story beats - such as the scenes with a handful of characters talking in front of Ragnar's coffin (with Rollo and Floki letting it all out).

The whole plot of taking over Paris in this way and then consequently leaving (all the while Ragnar struggling with his health issues) felt a little odd. The Vikings waiting for a month after collecting the payment without The French coming to ask them what the hell was going on a couple of weeks earlier came across as a weird development, too. Another point would be Kalf's and Erlendur's scheming that resulted in absolutely nothing, even though they had an entire month to act and actively seek out Ragnar's death.

I really want to like Rollo, but I think his speech to then-supposedly-dead-Ragnar ultimately proved why it's so difficult for me to. The man so really looks past his bloated ego and a desire to matter at all cost. Granted, his childlike self-satisfaction after uttering a word in a foreign language was quite golden, especially when put against Gisla's sulking behavior.

Overall I think it was a very solid season, with at least one unexpected character death. I'm still befuddled by some of Vikings' more wacky religious/mysterious visions that occur now and then, but I guess that's how the show rolls. Wessex storyline is what I consider an interesting subplot, in large part due to King Ecbert (but it doesn't hurt that Aethelwulf is growing something resembling a personality, and that Judith is pretty smart).
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Aug 01, 2015
"Methinks the princess doth protest too much."
She is definitely turned on by Rollo. She just won't admit it, not even to herself.
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May 01, 2015
Rags killed the bishop because he told Rags he would go to hell but thats not his call to make its God's. Who is a bishop to speak for God? He's not. Simple.
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Jul 22, 2015
I feel like I may be naive in saying this, but only because I have yet to see it anywhere else. To me, it seemed quite obvious that stabbing the Bishop symbolized Ragnar's true rejection for Christianity. I believe Ragnar holds no loyalty to any god... except Athelston. It appears the christian necklace is not a symbol of Ragnar's devotion to Jesus Christ but rather to Athelston, "the only person [he] can trust." This shouldn't be all that shocking considering the story (especially S03) almost relentlessly compared Athelston to Jesus Christ - in word and in imagery.

All of Vikings heavily relies on the interplay of religion, trust, and death. Ragnar had been burdened by all these throughout his rise. It's only appropriate that in Ragnar's brilliant move and semi-final word to his people (and the audience), he defies all three.

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Apr 27, 2015
This season was much better than the floundering season 2. Through about 2.5 seasons I considered s1 to be the strongest, but with the home stretch of s3 now done, s3 has a real argument to overtake s1. I like to nitpick, so none of the following should be taken to mean I didn't immensely enjoy this season.

With the way s3 ended, I feel like the flashes to England since the Vikings departure were more unnecessary than ever. Without Vikings around, I don't really care what Eckbert's up to or the psycho queen of Mercia. I'm glad they were left out of the finale, but it begs the question, why have we been wasting time with them in previous episodes?

The biggest thing I'm unsure about how I feel is Ragnar's deception, re-plundering, and murder of the bishop. I mean, fine, it's a very Ragnar thing to do, but it kind of erases his entire storyline about trying to convert to be reunited with Athelstan. Either he thinks the baptism alone will guarantee his entrance to heaven (and I could buy that he thinks that, but if that's the case then the show could've been clearer about that), or else I feel like his bromance with Athelstan is tainted because he just pretty much did the opposite of what will help him see his friend again. Murder, betrayal, etc....I'm guessing not things Athelstan would've ever lead Ragnar to believe would help him get into heaven. Because of the way it played out, I'm unsure of how Ragnar really feels about Athelstan and what his real hopes are to be reunited with him in the afterlife. Perhaps the joke is on me.....I suppose Ragnar gave me everything I needed to know when he buried his friend. He told him "I will never see you again. Something tells me your god would object to letting me into heaven." Maybe I should've known that in Ragnar's mind he is forever separated from Athelstan and that any attempts to convert would be only a ploy. Frankly, that is preferable for me, because in that scenario at least Ragnar still loves and misses his friend. As it is, I'm a little unsure about what's really going on in Ragnar's head about Athelstan. Many plot points make it clear he loves and misses him, but still, the priest-murder and overall deception, betrayal, and plunder of the French make me wonder if Ragnar is at all serious about trying to get to his friend again. I really hope the show doesn't mess that aspect up, because Ragnar's love for Athelstan, especially since his death, has been the most compelling storyline thus far on Vikings.
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Jul 05, 2015
Rgnar is not a Christian, and he is never going to be a Christian. His belief in his gods is strong enough that he does not fear other peoples golds. Flokki fears Christianity because his faith in his gods is weak - he fears they can be ousted by Jesus and the Christian God. Remember when Ragnar buried Aethelstan? The very last thing he did was take Aethelstan's cross and say "Forgive me my friend for what I am about to do" Even that far back he planned to subvert that religious symbol to help in conquering Paris. He probably didn't know exactly how it would help him at the time, but he had already decided that he could use Aethelstan's death and his cross in the plan. I'm sure he thought he and Aethelstan understood each other well enough that Aethelstan would understand.
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Jun 08, 2015
This is an historical drama so the King of Wessex being the grandfather of Alfred the Great must set his feet towards conquering Mercia to make himself king of ALL the English. Then using Mercia as a base closer to the new Viking settlements in eastern England from York south to the channel, he will be able to fight the Vikings led by Ragnar's sons and by the Danish Guthrum. That was King Ecbert's vision and later, Alfred's to complete. Ragnar's baptism was a tool in his warchest, that's all. He loved Athelstan but I think he knew Athelstan was consumed with his relationship to Christianity or to the Norse gods. Always, Ragnar kills to get rid of competing personalities or advance his vision. From the first he resisted orders to raid east, he went west and continued to go west, drawn by some unknown call. It's obvious his vision extended beyond his own life and times. His love for Athelstan may have him setting his people up to convert to Chrisitanity after his death to be part of the future.
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Dec 15, 2015
ArmyBrat73, there is much to what you say. It occurs to me as well that the killing of the bishop, who in many ways represented the wealth and pomp rather than the soul of the church, was not only a tool in Ragnar's battle strategy but also an illustration of how a partially converted pagan still with devotion to the Norse gods had not fully grasped what Christianity was about. He understood rituals but not the teachings of the faith, largely because he couldn't fully buy into everything Athelstan tried to teach him. If he had, he could not have continued to follow the Norse gods, nor would his people likely have followed him. To me it is interesting because of the childlike interest Ragnar has shown in his friend Athelstan's faith - he likes it and he knows it has power, but he has not grasped its essence. Indeed, historically, it took a fair amount of time and some generations before the Christian faith became written on the hearts and in the minds of northern Europeans.
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Apr 27, 2015
Ragnar knows English and now Rollo is learning French, they would be unstoppable together.
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Apr 26, 2015
I was not fooled or shocked by Ragnar's coffin resurrection at all. The split second I say the coffin I knew what was up. My ancestors come from Italy but we have a Norman name and so I have always been fascinated and curious about its origins. The "coffin" trick was one of the legends associated with the Southern Normans. I'm not surprised the writers of the series might dip into various legends for ideas for the show. Of course it could be a total coincidence but I was not surprise at all.
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Apr 27, 2015
I don't have the same heritage but also saw it coming.
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Apr 26, 2015
I was so hoping that I was right about Ragnar fooling Odo. The first clue was Ragnar wanting to Bjorn to do something for him and then not hearing what it was. The 2nd clue was waiting out the Franks until they wanted to know what was up (which gave Ragnar time to heal). And the 3rd clue was the request for a Christian burial, and then having it be closed-casket. The Vikings had no problem with the dead being shown in all of their glory. But I was on pins and needles until he jumped out of the casket.

Odo is such a freaky creep. I'm sure that Gisla had some clue/instincts that there wasn't something quite "right" about him.

While I understand her horror at being traded like a cow at market, those things often happened in those times to daughters of rulers. And I think Gisla will appreciate Rollo's courage and fire much more once she finds out he's been baptized. She definitely appreciated those attributes at the battle on Paris's walls.

I can't wait to see what happens next season!
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Apr 26, 2015
"...maybe a few Sunday school classes are in order for Ragnar."
heh heh :) This made me see Ragnar crouched at a tiny table next to a bunch of 5-year olds watching a nice lady put felt cutouts of the three wise men on a story board. I know they have Sunday school for grownups but that's what I remember.

Like Tim, I enjoy that Vikings is not hampered by a need to adhere to an entirely well-documented period of history. I enjoy the legendary and the mystical feel. (The Tudors pissed me off because it should have been a lot more respectful of history.) But I haven't tried to avoid the source material here because I don't see it as spoiler, so I knew that they were probably borrowing Bjorn's trick for this episode. And it was a little suspicious even without that foreknowledge--the parting speeches from Laggy, Rollo and Floki were a tip-off (and paid off more than once). I was overall very happy with the events of the finale (though Odo's predilections seemed like a cheap and pointless leveraging of the 50sog nonsense and no more of That Business is required) and many of the performances were outstanding. Watched Rollo's proper introduction to Gisla half a dozen times and saved it for future giggles. His Winning Smile takes the cake :) the sincerity had to have melted her heart a bit.

My only complaint with this episode is that seemed less well crafted than usual and the music took me out of it a couple of times. I tried Vikings because it kept coming up in Recommended For You lists; without that, I would have ignored it as a likely death metal panderfest, and was pleasantly surprised to find it so weirdly elegant and deftly handled. But the Safety Dance going down in Ragnar's funeral procession and the music when Ragnar pops out of Floki's magnificent casket were seriously disappointing. Not sure what the change is, but it made me appreciate the subtlety with which they've handled scenes like this in the past all the more.

Nevertheless, season 3 was a joy and you can count on me to stand in line for the season 4 premier and show up for these reviews. Thanks for the very enjoyable writing!

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Apr 26, 2015
Great finale!
Ragnar just knew how to "read" the seer's prophecy...
I'm curious as to what Ragnar is going to do to Floki now that he told him that he knows.
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Apr 26, 2015
The only problem with this season was all the stuff happening back in Kattegat when Ragnar wasn't there-- the Wanderer, Siggy's death... what's up with all that? So far we've had no real answers and it barely connected to the rest of the plot. They'd better do something else with the Wanderer in the next season, cause otherwise it's just too random, story wise.
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Jul 05, 2015
I'll bet Aslaug is knocked up and its the Wanderer's child. Do you remember in Season 1 when Lagertha (the most magnificent woman EVER) was ruling in Ragnar's stead, and some guy and his wife came in with a baby the guy said was not his? After hearing the story, Lagertha related the Norse tale of "The Wanderer" who is a god,and told the husband, (who hadn't had a child with his wife ) to shut up and be grateful, for his son had been fathered by a god. Same wanderer. Same deal.
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Jul 08, 2015
I think you're totally right, I completely forgot about that bit in Season 1. Thanks for the reminder ;)
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Apr 25, 2015
Coughing up blood one minute then springing out of a coffin the next? Nah couldn't buy that ending at all, way too far fetched. Glad Ragnar got to tell that jealous madman Floki that he knows who killed his friend. The expression on Flokis face was priceless.
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Apr 28, 2015
over a month had passed and if he was going to die of internal bleeding it would not of taken that long and before his "death" they showed him weak and sick (easy to fake), not coughing up blood.
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Apr 27, 2015
That was over a period of weeks or months. Not days.
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Apr 25, 2015
Yeah, I admit, that was my thinking once I got over the shock of seeing it happen. Sometimes writers go out of their way to add an ending that is unique and shocking to the audience. This one was that. However, like you, I did find it a wee bit of a stretch, but it didn't upset me to watch it.

The better ending was seeing Rollo's smile when he saw how angry the Princess was. That was priceless. He must be pretty confident in his abilities to wipe away her frown and change it to all smiles. Lol
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Apr 25, 2015
I have so much love for Ragnar, my absolute favourite character on TV at the moment. Can't believe I have to wait a whole 10 months till the next season. Each season blows me away and manages to introduce strong and compelling characters from Kalf to Ecbert (I find most shows fail at introducing new characters that are as loveable as the original cast but that's not the case with Vikings).

On another note did anyone else notice Bjorn starting to take on/mimic some of Ragnar's mannerism? A few subtle twitches here and there but perhaps a way of laying the ground for his eventual take over.
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Apr 27, 2015
YES! I thought the same thing when he moved his had like Ragnar does.
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Apr 25, 2015
At one moment I thought I saw him crouch almost in an impish way that Ragnar would have and thought that was a curious moment but now that I read your post I'm sure of it and a few other mannerisms, it's a nice touch from the show/actors. Nicely spotted!
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Apr 25, 2015
Good call on introducing new characters that are just as appreciated. Lost did that as well, in fact were the masters of adding that touch.
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Apr 25, 2015
what is up with TV getting all Fifty Shades of Kinky these days?? cashing in on that hot mommie-porn mess does not make for titillating tv.. but maybe a few LoLz.

speaking of... yet another Prank!! *eye-roll*.. first that hair/hand funny bit.. now Zombie Ragnar!! - ohh man.. History did not happen this way people..read a fucking book.

& oh Rollo.. turning on Ragnar again.. but atleast this time you got that money, land, & pure french Princess Poontang to wipe off your filthy traitor mouth. - enjoy son, enjoy. :P
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Apr 25, 2015
Also what's with 50 shades of kink lately? 2 times in a week, this show and Gotham.....
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Apr 25, 2015
* This was the best season of Vikings. Who are these complainers.

* Yes, King Ragnar Lothbrok misses Athelstan. That doesn't mean that King Ragnar favored and loved Athelstan over Bjorn Ironside, Rollo, etc.

Perhaps moreover, Ragnar considers he's a descendant of Odin (which means that so is Rollo, Bjorn and Ragnar's other children, etc.)

In addition, King Ragnar plans for Bjorn to be the heir apparent.

* King Ragnar only told Bjorn of the plan because Bjorn knows that he's the heir apparent. King Ragnar wanted to know what the various people actually thought of Ragnar. King Ragnar didn't want to risk someone actually killing him.

- And it worked out. Bjorn Ironside is now even more established as the heir apparent. King Ragnar knows that Laegtha remains loyal. He knows that Rollo wants something for himself. He knows that while Floki hates Ragnar, Floki also loves Ragnar more than Floki loves anyone else.

* Obviously the biggest development is Rollo becoming a Duke and getting a ton of land and wealth. And Rollo gets to marry a Princess.

Rollo has essentially leapfrogged and greatly surpassed King Ragnar Lothbrok.

- And unlike Ragnar's former alliance with King Eckbert, King Charles actually needs Rollo's help and actually is giving Rollo value. In essence, Rollo immediately is the second most powerful (and likely second richest) person in Frankia.

* King Ragnar doesn't like that Floki killed Athelstan but Floki is simply too important to the Vikings. Floki builds the ships and the other things the Vikings use for war.

* It'll be interesting to see how Vikings deals with Rollo and King Ragnar's sons going forward.

* Finally, obviously the French live better than the British.
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Apr 25, 2015
i read up on some viking history and it is to soon to kill ragnar off this season was the best it seems to get better each season
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Apr 25, 2015
The one question I have about the entire series is this...what's with the language. When people from various regions speak in English, is that simple for us as viewers? The Vikings speak English. The French speak English. The British obviously speak English. Yet there always seems to be somebody translating...why?

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Apr 25, 2015
They ALWAYS show a few scenes, where people speak native language. Then they start speaking English and use a translation dude to understand each other. I don't see anything bad here. You have a pretty good idea, which language which people spoke and at the same time you don't have to constantly look into subtitles to understand, what they say. For me it's a very good way to kill two birds.
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Apr 25, 2015
Which is more or less what I'm thinking. That English is spoken only when it wouldn't throw off the story telling between two different cultures.

It is an interesting way to get around the language barrier without constant subtitles...just as long as you don't think about it too much...lol
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Apr 25, 2015
Yes, it's for viewers and due to fact that languages spoken then are not same as spoken now. so it makes sense that people would speak English among themselves and revert to their languages only when there has to be alnguage barrier, like Northmen/Saxons and Northment/Franks
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Apr 25, 2015
I get the strategic language barrier, but don't get them speaking anything but their native language amongst themselves. Again, unless it's strictly for the viewer and something I should just shrug off.

I'd have to re-watch to be sure, but this all started for me after Ragnar reached an agreement with the English. Both knew the other spoke English, but at dinner, Aplestan was translating from English and Latin (which I get) to Nordic. There was another scene as well somewhere, but can't recall.

Either way, not a big deal. Just curious.
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Apr 25, 2015
Nobody speaks those languages as native speaker since they are dead ones. You can sometimes see they speak "their" language haltingly, as if they've just learned it. So ahving everybody speak Enlish is easire for actory, makes ther speech ore fluid.

And obviously for viewers as well, since we see show in English.
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Apr 25, 2015
I think I ran the full gauntet of thoughts and emotions during this finale episode

- OMG Ragnar, is actually going to die!
- But at least Floki is bulding him a proper boat for a Viking funeral
- Wait, a Christian burial? Ragnar, what have you done?
- Why is everybody paying their respects to a closed casket? Hmmm...you know, I betch that thing could hold A LOT of axes
- Dammit! Only 6 paul bearers are going in, it's not a Trojan Horse
- Holy crap, it's a Trojan Horse!
- For a kidnapping? Effective, but didn't see that coming
- Ragnar's letting the princess go?
- Oh, I get it, just a ploy to open the gates
- Bjorn is AWESOME!!! All hail the new king! Just not quite yet

Somebody make season 4 start NOW please! I need to know what Rollo is really up to and what's going to happen with Floki.

"What was the point of Ragnar murdering the holy man if he was desperately hoping to be admitted into heaven and reunited with Athelstan once his time does come?"

Because while he really would like to see Athelstan again, he is first and foremost a Viking. And killing the bishop sends that clear message to both the French and his brethren.

"But Ragnar seemed to be following his heart, which was full of anger. "


Which, if I'm correct about Ragnar's loyalties being to the Vikings, is exactly why he killed the biship. It was the right move from his head to setup Paris as an annual hunting ground and not his heart to be reunited with his old friend.

"I've heard rumblings of dissatisfaction from some viewers this season"

People can be idiots ;)
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Apr 25, 2015
Great finale! Ragnar's trojan horse move was cool and that face tho!!! wonder what other kinky stuff Count Odo is into and Princess Gisla's rant was hilarious. Who knew that Rollo was bilingual!! what a boss!!
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Apr 25, 2015
Vikings is a way better seriez than GoT...i just love it...
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Apr 25, 2015
I like them both, but like you, if I had to say which one I find more pleasure in watching, it too would be Vikings.
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Apr 25, 2015
They're absolutely different. You shouldn't compare ice-cream with pizza.

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Apr 25, 2015
He's not actually comparing the two, he just said he likes it better. In all honesty, I love both Got and Vikings. But when watching new episode of Vikings it just has this ''unwrapping long expected gift'' effect on me. GoT is great but it doesn't feel like that for me any more.
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Apr 26, 2015
Yeah, I have the same feeling. Vikings is a unique show and GoT is just another Lord of the Something Cool.
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Apr 25, 2015
i trully enjoyed the first 2 seasons of GoT...and then..meh....it just doent feel like it used to...But Vikings...it still got me on the edge!!!i still like Got but...no joffrey,no party!And khaleeshi needs more screen time
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Apr 25, 2015

And I love Rollo smile at the last moment, very funny!
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Apr 25, 2015
Like whatever girl, I will make you say hello in viking languague in no time XD
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Apr 25, 2015
I first thought that Ragnar´s dead was very anticlimactic, but Lagerthas´s goodbye was very heartbroken, short but full of meaning. I think that she is so upset not just because she felt out of the plan, but also because she knows now that Ragnar has heard it and knows what she really desieres.
I like the season a lot, but I miss Kattegat, so much scenarios, I want a bit more of domestc troubles (with the earls, etc...) but I´m sure season 4 is going to be epic.
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Apr 25, 2015
How did Ragnar manage to spend all that time in that coffin without moving? I think he used that mushrooms Floki used in season 2... But in that case, he wouldn't be able to hear what they said to him. (Wich is not so good because Lagertha's goodbye was a great one)
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Apr 25, 2015
Another awesome review, Tim. I'm hope TV.com pays you what you are worth. You are definitely THE MAN!
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Apr 24, 2015
Sorry to go against the flow but Ragnar's "Haha, I trick you!" stunt was stupid. It showed him in particular and Vikings in general to be untrustworthy and any deal they make not worth the paper it's written on. Consider that in England he acts differently and honours his word, even going so far as to give more, as happened when Ecbert asked for more troops. And it's Saxons who try to screw them over time and time again.

But we get to see another split scene, contrasting Viking and Christian rituals, the other one being last season's weddings.

Honestly, I wasn't sure if he's actually dead or not. At first I thought he is because show just might do that, since it already plays fast an loose with facts. Then I remembered the prophecy that "dead, not the living will conquer Paris" and I figured "OK, 50/50 it's a trick".

And the princess' outburst, priceless. I fully expected we'll get to see her rant than Rollo looks at wanderer and he says "Princess doesn't like you and refuses to marry you" OK, that was because I reembered a scene from a movie when somebody says "I hate movies with subtitles. You have somebody talk for long time and you only see "No" subtitle". Instead Rollo doesn't get it and tries to charm her by smiling and learning some phrases

Also not sure where they are going with Rollo's story. On one hand it's repeat of season 1 finale/season 2 premiere when Rollo allies with jarl Borg against Ragnar. OTOH it seems they are alluding to creating of duchy of Normandy, when land was given to Northman by the name of Rollo. But that happened in 911, 66 years after Paris siege/sack and that Rollo was born about the time of these events. It wouldn't be first time events were fast forwarded, in season 1 Northumbrian king gives Ragnar what looks like Danegeld, i.e "here's some money, now go away" which happened later.

Overall it was an interesting ep. I wouldn't actually call it best in season and whole season finale aspect could have been handled somewhat better. It leaves too many things open. You have Wessexian destruction of Viking settlement, you have Rollo's "betrayal" (quotation marks because we don't know what's actually happening) and you still have unresolved problem of Lagertha/Kalf. And you get "I know it was you Floki. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!", which will have to be dealt with.

I just hope next season doesn't do time jump when all that is already resolved and we get flashbacked to what actually happened.
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Apr 25, 2015
Good catch. I forgot that prophecy.
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Apr 25, 2015
I forgot that prophecy too. Good job they've mentioned it in this episode.
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Apr 24, 2015
The 'Trojan horse' move IS inspired by real history. Read up on the life of Bjorn Ironside and the siege of Luna in Italy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Björn_Ironside I was very impressed that they included that in the show and predicted it after the scene where Odo was presented to a sick Ragnar -- Ragnar was faking to be more sick than he really was. It was very exciting when I realized that. His sickness had to be convincing. Also, (just in terms of the show) consider that Ragnar might have told Bjorn to encourage everyone to speak to his coffin. In the process, Ragnar gets to hear what everyone really thinks of him.
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Apr 24, 2015
Hahaaa!! Fooled you!! Those who know Ragnar knew this was a trick. I was in denial about him dying but I was fearing it also. He had me going there for a second. That was perfectly executed. I didn't like that they were still questioning Ragnar. Didn't he already told yall to shut the hell up?! Does he have to repeat that he's the king and it's ultimately his decision? Hasn't he already proven he gets the job done to everyone's benefit? Ragnar didn't ask for this and I love that he says that yet it fell to him to lead. All he wanted to do was explore, find a better way for his people and satisfy his curiosity. We root for the Vikings and we want them to succeed even if Ragnar tricked the Franks even though they cooperated. In warfare if you see an advantage you take it. Finding out this was all a trick was funny when u realize Ragnar heard what everyone said next to his coffin. Ragnar has mischief in his eyes. He's curious and adventurous but is he still dying? Side note: Rollo is going to marry that frigid bitch and make her loose.
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Apr 25, 2015
I am really curious to see how Apollo and his future bride work out their differences. Don't forget, he was baptized, so this may be his in.......in more ways than one. As for frigid.....I don't know, she is one PASSIONATE woman. I'm not so sure that adjective is appropriate here.
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Apr 25, 2015
There's a fine line between being passionate and being a complete zealot.
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Apr 24, 2015
I was also fooled by Ragnar's death, thinking, "Well, it IS based on history, and History does jump this show in the future quite a bit (I mean, within only 10 minutes of they show they had been in Francia outside of Paris for more than a month, and they are always away from home for long stretches of time), so maybe this really was Ragnar's end." And while they carried him in through the walls of Paris and into the halls of the church I thought, "Well... I don't think I can watch this show anymore without Ragnar... I mean... it's Ragnar," and I really did catch myself hoping it was a Troy move and Ragnar would jump out, alive, even though that would kind of trod on the respect I had for playing things out historically... and DAMN if I wasn't pleased to be errr... disappointed? Nope... not disappointed at all in retrospect, even if that part never happened in history.

And then the way they played in the voice over of the prophecy of "Paris being destroyed by the dead" was genius, and the shot preceding it of Bjorn raising his arms to usher in the vikings, and Ragnar wading out against them to meet his son -- a beautiful and extremely well done sequence. I could watch that one part over and over again.

And yes, Rolo's "Hello" and grin at the end were priceless! As was Ragner facing up Floki. Wow.
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Apr 24, 2015
I had to go with the second poll option. Not that it was a bad episode but it was kind of low key after the previous 2 but don't get me wrong still a good episode and great season.
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Apr 25, 2015
and a little predictable. But good season in general.
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Apr 24, 2015
I feel the same. :-)
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Apr 24, 2015
I understand Tim's confusion regarding who Ragnar is and what his beliefs are. That being said, I dont think that Ragnar is being inconsistent and furthermore I think that he is not facing an existential religious crisis. Vikings were welcoming to all Gods, and this is just one more in his religious pantheon. The fact is that he doesnt see the world in black or white but shades of grey, which is interesting when combined with religion. I think in his mind he is trying to find a way to meld Christianity with Viking religion.

From the beginning of the show, he has been using Christian religion against itself. One important element to conquering your enemy is to know them and in particular their weaknesses. That was his aim initially with his friendship with Athelstan, from his raids on towns during Mass in the first season, to using Athelstan's knowledge of King Ekhbert to secure an alliance, and now using Christian/French hope of a Viking Christian king. He keeps using the Christian religion as a weapon against Christians to secure his victories while maximizing his people's morale via Viking beliefs and religion. Perhaps, those characters who are truly loyal to Ragnar have figured this out (aside from loyalty from emotional bonds).

As for being a man of his word, I think he tries the best he can, but he wont do it at the expense of being "a true Viking king" and winning glory and money for his people. He wants the best for his people and wants it more than he wants his own success. This, among other things, like creative planning and so forth, are why he is a successful leader.
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Apr 24, 2015
Love this show. Last night's episode was the best! So many people are missing out by not watching this great historical drama!
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Apr 24, 2015
For all those that think Rollo is betraying Ragnar, I don't think so. I think he's going to want to share. HOwever, Ragnar never told anyone about the failure of the English settlement, so I don't think Ragnar is going to want this deal after the burn in England. That last scene was so priceless. The look on their faces. Of course, for the fans of the series, this is par for the course for poor Rollo. He was rejected by Lagertha. (and has been for at least 20 years) He was raping the slaves, and resorting to sleeping with the drugged women at Uppsala, and sleeping with desperate married women. Then there was Siggy who was basically doing him to get back her old position. Even Queen K, slapped him across the face. (and that's saying something) I am wondering what Ragnar has in store for poor Floki.
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Apr 24, 2015
I knew Ragnar was up to something, loved it when he said "I win!" lol Killing the bishop proves that he hasn't converted to Christianity to me. He needed everyone to believe he was sincere, and his grief for Athelstan was certainly sincere, but he's not giving up his gods for the Christian one. He had his prophecy - " Not the living but the dead will conquer Paris and the Bear will be crowned by a Princess" It's weird that these prophecies come true, because it adds an element of fantasy to the show, but I like fantasy, so I'm alright with it.

Rollo and Gisla are going to be fun, I hope. I know she's into him. Maybe when she finds out he's been baptized she won't hate him so much. Rollo is everything she wishes her father could be.
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Apr 25, 2015
Excellent points about Rollo being baptized and being the opposite of her spineless father, whom she dispises.
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Apr 24, 2015
I liked her strong will and how she stood watching the battle with no fear. Then she turns into a spoiled child at the table during dinner with her father. She was pouting and sitting like a two year old. Same with her speech to Rollo she wasn't brave or regal.
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Apr 24, 2015
Yeah, god forbid she should object to being married off to an enemy!
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Apr 26, 2015
And beyond that, she really is all about national pride and is furious that her flimsy pater keeps going to the appeasement well. If she had actual power things might have gone differently. I liked how they showed her being recognized as the de facto leader after the king left the throne room (when the subjects circled her in reverence).
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Apr 24, 2015
Actually the fake burial scene is straight out of the history books - but it was Bjorn, in Italy.
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Apr 24, 2015
either that or it was Hastein. In any case its not historical fact . Its very debatable.
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Apr 24, 2015
imho Hastein was a different incident.
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Apr 24, 2015
Anyone else wanting to see Ragnar and Lagethera back together?! Even though they were only together for 1 season, his marriage to the bird with permanent resting bitch face has never seemed as real. I don't like her and think he should bin her off, daughter of a legend or not.

Anyway moving on, it has been a strange season, I think the loss of so many great characters (tolstein, athelstan) in the show has taken away some of it's charm and their charm. There's more people involved now but they're almost faceless you know what I mean. I can see a time jump in season 4 and it possibly ending with him dying and moving to his boys stories... either that or maybe he gets a season 5 out of it so that the lads (and us) have enough time to grow up with them and we get to see them develop. I wouldn't be cool if all of sudden his lads were like Bjorn (after being like 2 for ages) because at least we got to see Bjorn and saw his character develop as a kid. Young Bjorn had some great great scenes in Season 1. I remember that time jump taking a while to get used to actually. I wouldn't mind seeing them all going back to that Temple again as well, try and pull the unit back together again. It all seems frayed and dispersed and that don't sit well with me either haha.

I'm hoping Fimmel gets at least two more seasons, it's always been him that's drawn me to the show, the way he pulls off cheeky and devious yet charming all at the same time. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm just not sure the supporting cast is strong enough. I think it would have been had they allowed more of them to survive but it feels like the cast (other than the main few) are rotating in and out every season so we don't actually grow to like anyone or develop a viewer relationship with them. I'm rambling here now anyway. It was a pretty decent finale, there were some plot holes in the Paris attack but overall they've really moved the show up a gear. I think i'm just missing the show of season 1 and 2. But that's just me being nostalgic and not wanting to let go, so used to hollywood endings and stuff like that I suppose :P
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Apr 25, 2015
Yes to Bjorn taking over after Ragnar passes, but no to Lagertha remarrying Ragnar. She is a much stronger character without him.
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Apr 27, 2015
Oh I don't want them to get married, just bang haha!
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May 10, 2015
Oh, nothing wrong with that. I'm sure Ragnar misses that too. After all, She is a very passionate woman.
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Apr 25, 2015
The fist thing I tought when I believed that Ragnar was dead was that the worst part was tha Lagertha and Him hadné had another night together, I ship them so much, I´m sure Ragnar still lover, and Her desires him, despite all her rage because all the bad things he had made to her :-)
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Apr 24, 2015
"Vikings is sometimes compared to Sons of Anarchy"
Plus Travis Fimmell looks so much like Charlie Hunnam in his Vikings getup
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Apr 25, 2015
Travis Fimmell would have been so much better as Jax!
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Apr 25, 2015
Charlie Hunnam is a very embarrassing actor and i never understood why he got praised on this site.... but Seeing anyone else as Jax is scary
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Apr 24, 2015
Great episode. I did know Ragnar wasn't dead though. His death is a catalyst for the huge upheaval in the ninth century England. There was no way the showrunners would tweak the show so much. This is History Channel after all.

As for Rollo, next season will be eventful. I don't want to spoil anything for others with history. :) Gisla is totally into Rollo, no matter what she says, and he likes her as well. This is certainly a step up for her after being stalked by that creepy sadist Count Oddo.
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Apr 24, 2015
YEs I saw the look on her face when he said hello. History says the Franks loved Rollo. I think Rollo intends to double cross the Franks and share with Ragnar, but I think he will start to like the people of Frankia. They will start to like him, and he won't be able to betray either one. After the I am King speech, I don't think Ragnar's going to like that Rollo took it upon himself to take the treaty. I think she's naive but senses something is wrong with Odo, hence why she says "he threw me to the dogs." History says, I believe that Rollo was loyal to the old Carolingians and Odo is king for a while, but he has no heirs.
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Apr 26, 2015
I don't know the specifics about his terms with the vikings after he becomes duke, but given that things seemed to go well for his subjects, I suspect he will pay tribute from his coffers to the homeland and that anyone who wants to settle in frankia will be welcome to come... not a colony but almost a sister region. That's what I hope.

Gisla is no idiot. I'm sure once the rage at being traded like a cow goes away, she will be happy that she was at least traded to a kinder and better looking farmer who eschews the nipple clamps. Someone else here says historical Rollo treated her badly but I'm hoping that's not the case and besides, Gisla seems to be one of those figures more legendary than well-documented and a good candidate for wiggle room so hopefully Hirst will give us something great between them. Rollo's better-documented wife may follow a short but loving marriage that ends with a death in childbirth or something. But that's getting way too far ahead.
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Apr 24, 2015
I thought the BDSM was gonna be some 50 shades of grey style, BUT OH DAMN!
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Apr 24, 2015
Yes, I want Rollo and Gisla together now too! I didn't know how much I wanted it till now! They are both such powerful people in their own rights. Plus she already saw him murder a bunch of people that time on the top of the castle with the banner. So she know's he's got a bangin' body. He'll be nicer to her that that creepo guard.
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Apr 24, 2015
Count Odo is a awful piece of work. I would marry Floki before I would the Count.
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Apr 24, 2015
It should be interesting to see what the series does with their relationship. In reality, Rollo was cruel to Gisela, his first wife. I look these things up as I descend from both Rollo and, apparently, Ragnar's son Sigurd 'Snake Eye' and Ragnar if he even truly existed. Watching this series has really made part of my genealogical history come alive.
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Apr 24, 2015
Omg, those suckers straight got PLAYED! That's how you play somebody right there lol. Ragnar is above all else, a genius. I'm so glad he's not dead cuz I fell for it and I was FURIOUS. I was gonna quit the show if he was dead cuz I'm #TeamRagnar all day every day. I was like "they can't kill Ragnar! I will not watch season 4! I don't give a f*ck about the rest of these bitches. I don't care about Rollo. Don't care about Bjorn. Kinda care about Largatha but not enough to watch a Ragnar-less Vikings."

Princess Gisla......that's how you READ somebody for filth!!!! Lmao! She held nothing back. She read him up one side and down the other lol

Her father is such a p*ssy! He's the very definition of the word coward. As soon as he said he was gonna offer them something far more precious than money, I knew instantly he was gonna give her in marriage. Triflin. Although I admit I am very much interested in seeing Rollo and Gisla on screen together.
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Apr 25, 2015
Ragnar thanks you for your loyalty and passion for him. You wanted more, you got more. But if I may disagree on one point- I think Bjorn is going to be a beast too. I think, if you open your heart, he may even win you over and make you forget Daddy Ragnar. And of course, Lagertha is hot, hot, hotttttttttt!
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Apr 25, 2015
Bjorn may grow to be awesome as well, but he doesn't have daddy's looks lol. NO ONE CAN MAKE ME FORGET TRAVIS FIMMEL'S FACE LMAO.........HE'S GOT BRAINS AND LOOKS. Lagertha is hott, I will admit that.
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Apr 24, 2015
I actually like the King I thought it brilliant. It sort of sucks being compared to a dead man all the time. (Charlemagne) and is bound to destroy one's confidence. I think he knows something is wrong with Odo. Gisla can't marry into his brother's families because they are such bad relatives, they won't help him. The King has no choice. At least, he thinks the Vikings might be loyal to him as paid mercenaries. The Greek Kings of Constantinople used them this way.
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Apr 24, 2015
He's not a p*ssy for marrying Gisla off to Rollo, he's a p*ssy for hiding in the castle and then fainting like a b*tch lol. Prior to this episode he was forcing everyone else (including his daughter) to deal with the Northmen because he was to scared to get out from under the bed.
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Apr 24, 2015
Currently watching and I'm the part with the BDSM and I have to be honest. As soon as Thirsty Ass Bitch and Old Freak walked down into the tunnels I immediately paused my TV and looked at my friend and said "Hold the hell on. Why they gotta go to the basement though? He must be in to some freaky sh*t. She clearly thirsty as hell if she's willing to go down to the unknown."

Nope. I couldn't do it. I woulda had questions, I woulda been asking "Why are we in the basement? Why can't we just have sex? Why couldn't we stay in the room we were in? Why we gotta go to the underground railroad? All this is unnecessary, I'm not that thirsty and you not that cute, I change my mind."

And then when she agreed to go along? I said "oh hell naw, the thirst is too real in this bitch. She's clearly dehydrated." I couldn't do it. NOPE.
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Apr 24, 2015
I can not imagine wanting a Title or money so bad I would let the Count even touch my hand much less let him degrade me like that. Keep your Title.
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Apr 24, 2015
Exactly! Nope. Ain't nobody got time for all that, he better find somebody else.
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Apr 24, 2015
OMG! The thirst was damn near killing that girl! Almost couldn't watch the damn scene; I though that girl is a goner!
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Apr 24, 2015
I thought for sure he was gonna kill that thirst-bucket lol. I thought "oh well, its a wrap for you. I bet you'll control your thirst next time."
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Apr 24, 2015
Damn I said the same thing. I thought he was going to kill her and bury her in the basement.
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Apr 24, 2015
Exactly! Only a thirsty hoe would put her self in a position for that to even be possible. NOPE, not me.
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Apr 24, 2015
Well, to be fair - Vikings have been taking VERY lightly on historicity. The historical Rollo lived some century later than Ragnar, so the Gisela he was given was Charles the Bold's great-grand-daughter, not his daughter, for instance. And I wont even get started on the Saxons... Knowing history doesn't spoil the series for me, sinceit doesn't really care for hostory. However - watching Vikings does ruin your history knowledge, if you think you'll actually LEARN something from the show.

That said, Season 3 was the strongest so far. The story actually made sense (exept for the historicity, ofc), and the acting was notably better than the previous two years. S1-2 were "just" visually and musically beautiful, S3 was actually pretty descent television!
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Apr 24, 2015
Well, since it's based on Viking sagas, the veracity of those is also in question. They seem to be part legends and part actual history. We're not even sure if Ragnar actually existed or if he was amalgamation of several people.

Still, his death in Paris was never in the cards, no matter how light on history Vikings are. It's just too big a deviation. As for the other changes and inconsistencies, it is historical drama, not a documentary, so some adjustments are to be expected.

Point of the show is not to teach you history, but to make this period interesting enough for the viewers to want to learn actual historic background of these characters and events from the proper sources.
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Apr 24, 2015
Regarding the vikings, that is true. But in the case of the saxons and the francians, we have a pretty good idea of their societies, rulers, warriors etc. And the show treat it VERY liberal. And much of the norse society as depicted in the show is made up and/or changed from archeological findings.

which dont necessary is to say its a bad series. just a bit... silly :)
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Apr 24, 2015
Also, can we all just simply agree: NO "Fifty Shades of...whatever" jokes.

Odo showed kinky shit happened long before that stupid book and movie came out. Hell, the 1980s showed that!

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Apr 24, 2015
I thought he was going to bury her in the basement.
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Apr 24, 2015
It was never in question that kinky shit existed before 50 Shades of stupid came out! Have you heard of Marquis de Sade? Even he didn't invent sadism, it was just named for him.
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Jun 09, 2015
Civilized societies practiced sexual sadism as far back as the ancient Greeks and Romans. It was Christianity that added guilt, remorse and forgiveness to the soup.
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Apr 24, 2015
Wait. Hold up, Tim. If you made an effort to not "read ahead," looking up as little information as possible about Ragnar Lothbrok. "The less I know, the better," I say! -- then how would you know enough to want to beg Hirst to ditch historical accuracy? I know the history, but that wasn't the reason I wasn't close to fooled by the fake death.

I mean, what show would kill off its star -- and one of the most dynamic characters on television -- for a somewhat clunky storyline that took almost a month? Com'on! If Hirst really wanted to kill Ragnar, it would have been on the wall while fighting and got his first look at Paris (and would have ditched historical accuracy). Speaking of the French, would they really be that stupid to say "Hey, you were cutting our soldiers' balls off a while ago, but sure. Why not? Come on in now"?

As for Rollo...well, I'll respect your "less you know" policy.

Yet still, though there were things I thought were kind of weak (like what was happening in England after the important vikings left. Who cares?), I did completely enjoy Season 3. So I guess: I Win.

BTW: NICE COFFIN, FLOKI

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Apr 24, 2015
Well, Being Human (British version) killed off all three principal characters and replaced them with their equivalents.
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Apr 26, 2015
Unfortunately, none of the replacements came even close to as good as the originals.
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Apr 26, 2015
That's that.....
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Apr 24, 2015
"...what show would kill off its star?" Possible spoiler but if you haven't watched Game of Thrones, just look up reaction to red wedding on youtube.
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Apr 24, 2015
All I could think was: "Oh, my god... Brother's war part 2? Damn you, Rollo!"
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