Young Justice Series Finale Review: Business as Usual

Young Justice S02E20: "Endgame"

I don't like to speak ill of the canceled, but this was a pretty lackluster finale. You know, aside from that one part that elicited a bit of emotion beyond boredom.

Young Justice has never been that great of a show for me. Its first season picked up a lot of steam toward the end as it finally found a solid balance between character- and action-driven plots, something it had generally struggled to achieve before the last three or four episodes of that season. But then Season 2 more or less eradicated all of that with tons and tons of new characters and a shift from character-focused stories to more action- and plot-driven narratives that ended up being more convoluted than complex. What's more, the show decided to ignore the richer character beats that its undercover operations and burdens-of-leadership plots provided. It would've been one thing had I found the invasion arc and the end of the world timeline more engaging—I could've forgiven its lack of character depth—but since it wasn't particularly satisfying, both flaws became increasingly noticeable.

And that was certainly on display in "Endgame." The big showdown with Black Beetle was hardly worthy of the term 'showdown,' as it essentially amounted to "Get into position to reprogram his scarab." For what has been the show's biggest bad, and the source of some very good action set pieces, this was a very dull fight. It was a good final showing of how Jaime and his scarab have come to terms with each other—and of all the character arcs the show's done in the second season, Jaime's has perhaps been the cleanest and most consistent—but it also very easily set up the final big MacGuffin montage.

Because there's nothing I love more than a MacGuffin montage.

Did any of you find that run around the world to stop the Reach's magnetic disruptors interesting or exciting? I found it decidedly anticlimactic considering the season's worth of build-up that led up to it. Yes, a great deal of that was dealt with in "Summit," but the episode just frittered away the momentum. There were some good bits, including Wally and Artemis interacting in Paris and Black Lightning offering to mentor Virgil, but as a big bit of world-saving action, it was decidedly flat.

Not to mention all for naught if it only takes one of those disruptors to destroy the world—the one at the Arctic was doing a bang-up job of causing (un)natural disasters that would consume the world (why were there 20 of them then?) and bring about Bart's timeline. And so the remedy, as is often the case, was for the Flashes to run really fast, counter to the disruptor's energy flow, to dissipate it. I'm not knocking this as it's a common-enough solution to these sorts of plans in comic book narratives, but they sort of did the same thing in "Bloodlines" to stop Neutron, just sucking out oxygen instead of energy.

At that point, the episode started setting up the third season that will never happen. Wally's death was surprising as hell considering the show's general unwillingness to actually kill anyone prior to now. My sadness at his passing felt a little hollow given how small of a role the character had this season, and was driven more so by my fondness for him last season and Artemis across both seasons. Had he been more involved in the action this season, it might've hit harder. I wanted it to hit harder.

But clearly Wally's death was intended to have very real effects on the characters, and I wish we could've seen that. Dick left the team in Kaldur's hands (with Barbara running missions from the Watchtower!), Bart assumed the Kid Flash mantle, and Artemis retired her archer persona (and cover identity, really) to resume her identity as Tigress because Artemis was Wally's partner. It was a way of honoring their relationship, and it was very touching.

The destruction of those Reach disruptors did serve a narrative need that will go undeveloped as well. It allowed Lex Luthor to become U.N. Secretary General, and Vandal Savage, as had long been suspected, delivered Warworld to Darkseid on Apokolips. So, yes, the universe's most ruthless despot now has a mobile base of operations that is armed to the teeth. No need for parademons now! I wouldn't call this an exciting development since it was something that had been floating around the series since the first season, but it represented a shift to a threat that felt decidedly more brutal and dangerous than the Reach ever did.

Despite my decidedly conflicted feelings about Young Justice overall, and this season in particular, I am sad that it's over. I've been writing about the series since it started, and as a result, it's been a significant part of my writing-about-TV identity, and so it's leaving a bit of a void. But it's also, along with Green Lantern: The Animated Series and Star Wars: The Clone Wars (and probably TRON: Uprising), another loss in the ongoing struggle to maintain, at the very least, ambitious and entertaining action animation on American television, and that doesn't benefit audiences.



Notes & Quotes

DC Nation Short: Another Farm League. One with the Flish against Captain Cod that was weird and Green Lamprey versus a hippopotamus Sinestro. My only takeaway from this collection is the reminder that the lamprey is a horrifying creature.

– "Now all the hero meat will die."

– Mark Rolston allowed so much disdain to seep into Lex's voice when referred to everyone as "heroes" while delivering the anti-Reach technology, and I loved it. Best line delivery of the episode. Second best? Black Canary thanking Captain Atom for handing over chairmanship of the Justice League.

– I didn't discuss Conner and M'gann kind of reconciling. It was... fine, I guess? Again, it was one of those incidents where I felt disconnected from the arc because it hadn't been very well developed. But I'm glad to know that Wendy and Marvin are together. Thank goodness.


What'd you think of "Endgame" and the series as a whole?

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It was a good episode, nothing special and Wally's death was very manipulative.
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I'm sad to see the show go as it's one of the only cartoons I've watched in a long time that incorporated interesting arcs and character development.

One thing I'm critical about the show though is how while it seemed they did a good job of representing just about every race/ethnicity in their characters, Asians, especially Asian males were always portrayed as ineffective and weak. UN Secretary Tseng? Rhelasia? It also seemed like several characteristics of the alien villains suspiciously resembled Asian stereotypes.

I get that Hollywood doesn't like Asian males (they have no problem portraying Asian women, usually in the arms of white men - I get that), but I was really disappointed in the skewed portrayal in a show that's largely viewed by children, teens, and young adults. I think I recall one neutral depiction of an Asian male in the episode where Earth attempts to launch a satellite into space (he plays an engineer, of course).

We still have a long way to go.
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YJ and clone wars were the only 2 kid cartoons I watched. YJ had it's moments, I just wanted more from it. It wasn't in the same league as Batman TAS, Justice League, or Batman Beyond. Clone Wars was awesome when it was stories with Maul, the droid arc was a little boring, but Asoka's final arc was well played. Please tell me there are going to be good cartoons coming out....when is the new Batman and Star Wars Detour coming out?
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Also, Jay Garrick's a coward. We saw him as part of the 40 heroes assembled, but he never made it to the north pole? Shame on you, Jay. It could have been you instead of Wally.
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Jay's top speed has always been WAY lower than the rest of the Flash's though, which could be why since he isn't powered by the speed force. In the comics, his top speed was like 200 mph, maybe. However...Wally was also the fastest Flash in the comics, and that wasn't the case in this show. So...who knows.
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Oh really? I learned something new... about Jay, I mean. What about Max Mercury? Where was *he* hiding?!
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I knew this day was coming! It didn't make it easier though... To pay my last respects, I won't include any criticisms, just the good stuff ;-)

I loved the whole YJ series, it's actually the first DC series I've followed. I hear they won an Emmy award! If that's true, a believe they deserved it. The best thing about it was without a doubt the characters. Although, because there were so many of them in Season 2, I think you had to pick your favorite one and stick with them, hoping the next episode will expand on their arc.

My personal favorite character arcs were

1. Aqualad - noble responsible soldier, turned arch enemy, turned undercover good guy & conflicted son, turned the guy who fools all the villains and destroys their alliance from within. Phew! What a rollercoaster ride! I don't know whether I preferred AL as a hero or a villain... He was awesome as both, with that same intensity and decisiveness applied to both roles. I would have loved to see him with an on-screen love interest, instead of constantly heart broken over Tula. There was a hint at one, with the kiss on the cheek in the last episode of Season 1, but I guess it's tough to start a relationship when you're going undercover huh.. My favorite line of his was from his Atlantis episode, when he finds out Tula is with his old friend (name forgotten). When they are under attack and Tula is injured, his friend wants to back him up in the fight and he says "No. Your place is with Tula" This line alone showed such insight into the kind of character he was. He wasn't going to fight for her, he respected that she had made her choice. This I believe was also the moment he made his crucial choice of Atlantis vs The Team.

2. Miss Martian - She grew from slightly annoying taglining teenager, to powerful psychic, and in season 2 got way more secure about the identity she wanted to morph into (doesn't every adolescent want that power), and became quite serious and certain about her role in the grand scheme of things. Perhaps too certain, ignoring Conor's warnings about her power abuse... Then of course she finally sees that her aggressive psychic barrage on her enemies has terrible consequences on a certain undercover friend. I like how the guilt makes her totally withdraw, going the other way and not using her powers at all unless she gets considerable pressure from her team mates. The writers did well in making her gradual recovery from this trauma believable. They are also exceptionally good at placing characters in the right place at the right time without making it seem too convenient and coincidental.

There is so much more I love(d) about the show, but let me leave it here, else the tears start afresh!

In a word, Young Justice = Irreplaceable.
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The show did win an Emmy. Phillip Bourassa won an individual achievement award for his character designs. (Though it should be noted that it's not a "competitive" category, just people who receive the award.)
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Wonder if KF "dying" was all part of the setup to the Flashpoint movie due out in a few months
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woah, is there really a Flashpoint movie? I MUST WATCH!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League:_The_Flashpoint_Paradox#Justice_League:_The_Flashpoint_Paradox

On April 25, 2012, DCAU Batman voice actor Kevin Conroy let it slip that he had just recorded his lines for the animated movie version of DC Universe-changing Flashpoint.

WBA confirmed the actor will be playing Bruce Wayne/Batman in the non-Flashpoint era sections of the film.

Along with Ron Perlman, Dana Delany, Vanessa Marshall and Nathan Fillion reprising their roles as Deathstroke, Lois Lane, Wonder Woman and Hal Jordan/Green Lantern, actors announced are C. Thomas Howell as Professor Zoom, Kevin McKidd as Thomas Wayne/Batman, Michael B. Jordan as Cyborg, Cary Elwes as Aquaman, Tim Daly's son Sam as Superman, Danny Huston as General Lane and Justin Chambers as Barry Allen/The Flash.

The film will be released on July 30, 2013
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I think Wally would have been brought back in season 3 somehow, like maybe his essence was trapped within the speed force or something.

I do have a question though--who was the guy calling the shots from the Watchtower during the egg deployment mission?

Oh, and did y'all catch how Arsenal was invited back on the team? Why did you even bother kicking him off, Dick?
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Same question about who that was. He looked like he was a white guy wearing civilian clothes. And (if I'm remembering correctly) perhaps with graying hair?

Later we saw The Atom in his suit and shrunken. Maybe he changed clothes?

I can't think of who they would have coordinating such an important thing in the WT with that appearance.
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Too young to be Ray. My guess is Marvin (noted at the bottom of Noel's review in reference to M'gann and Conner's conversation), since he's the only unnamed person there. Probably from a deleted episode, given that this season ended up short (which would also explain some glaring plot holes I've noted in previous ep comments).
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You know what? I was ready to shoot down your theory, but I don't recall seeing Marvin since the time skip, and it really could have been him. I'm not sure how or why he would have ended up in the Watch Tower, but I guess he learned about the team's secret identity at some point, sort of like Mal. Of course, this begs the question: where was Wendy?
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Light brown skin, brown hair, and a soul patch. The Atom is also seen on Captain Atom's shoulder in the same scene. ... Which brings me to my next question. Captain Atom was just chilling up at the Watchtower while the world was on the verge of being destroyed? Worst. Justice League Chairman. Ever.
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I am sad to see this series go, this season finale was not what it deserved as it really was just a SEASON finale. Would have been nice to get season 3 but we all got screwed on that one.

I wonder how many different characters were ever in charge off the JL before Captain Atom? do they change every year? and I didn't like the idea of Aqualad being placed back in charge after returning they should have taken time for him to learn how all the team members can work together and all that stuff.

One thing that really upset me about season 2 was the writing off of Red Arrow after Arsenal showed up, I know they are both Roy Harper and all that clone stuff, but why didn't he help out at the end and rejoin the team? especially since Artemis changed outfits and they could use an archer on the team. I liked Red Arrow for all the time he was on the show and he ended up one of the most screwed over characters.
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They helped... both Roy and Roy-Clone were among the huge group of heroes awaiting Lex's blue-pod-of-teh-win to be handed out. Though I don't recall seeing them fight the Reach-drones... but we had 20+ drones and we only saw like 5 attacks.

But I agree with your overall statement... hardly anything happened with them this season. Roy-clone was pretty much off camera the entire season except for those 2 episodes (finding Roy, stopping Roy from killing Lex). And that's it... just mentions of him being a daddy. And Original-Roy... not much save for the whole "You'll never take me alive" bit.
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I have to agree with just about everything you said. The first season really came together well at the very end but the Second Season with the additional characters and setting up the Reach just felt short. I think in Young Justice's case their ambition to make a complicated story ultimately fell short. I mean the Reach were never particularly interesting and the whole Blue Beetle angle for me kind of grew irritating, especially when they brought in the Runaways. Still I will miss the show.
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Yeah, this endgame finally was a setup for a season 3.. sheesh.. oh well. sad, I like the show. I think that Wally's death was something to explore in Season 3, perhaps he was.. engulf in some dimension or something.. who knows.. anyways, we had 46 episodes.. better than nothin' :)
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Probably into the Speed Force. In the comics, Wally and Barry have disappeared Into the Speed Force for LONG periods of times and were presumed dead. Heck even Bart disappeared into there.
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I would've expected Bart to disappear and then the timeline would be 'reset' so only one Bart would be around. I do have to agree with parts of this article that the episode had some good moments, but nothing really had much of an impact other than seeing Virgil joining the team and remembering Wally's sacrifice. I wished there were 6 more eps. I mean sure I don't lie the fast paced stuff like these last episodes, but I don't like cliffhangers either. 6 eps would be like 2 movies worth. I just can't see them trying to deal with the 'darkseid' storyline in one movie. So I do hope teen titans go flops so cn will understand that you can't replace quality with crap.
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Anyone else notice when the league had just returned to earth and the team is descending from the sky to meet them. I think it was nice that it mirrored the first episode where superboy is first broken out of cadmus and the league descends from the sky to meet them as well.
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Ugh, I forgot to mention the DC Nation Shorts, "way to kill the franchise, Bakula." First we have a repeat of World's Funniest which are an unwatchably bad waste of money and time. Then it's DC Farm League which absolutely failed to elicit anything other than ire for being so awful and lazily written.
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Especially CN's lack of careful usage of their promo comments--"brand new DC Nation short" before Wolrd's Funnest (it wasn't. as you and Noel noted), and then the ad for next week having a new GLTAS and YJ (unless they really fooled everyone, they won't be).
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anyone else have dejavu when wally west died? kinda like the scene from JLU where he goes really fast and kicks brianiac/lex luthor hybrids ass .... i loved this episode... wish they could keep the show going... its biggest problem is the target audience is KIDS.... when most of the comic/super hero lovers are more older ... i am 27... i still watched Superman/batman tas , JL and JLU and all the movies but watching them again now , i understand the story arcs soo much better and enjoy these shows allot more... you need to put this show on like HBO like Spawn back in the days :) They really need to change their target audience...
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"kinda like the scene from JLU where he goes really fast and kicks brianiac/lex luthor hybrids ass" Yep, that was the best part of one of the best JLU episodes...

And yeah, I agree about missing their target audiences. I get that they put it on at mid-day for the kids, because it's a show focused on "kid" (young adult) superheroes. However, a lot of the story arcs are probably way too serious for young kids to really get.
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I believe this season was suppose to be 26 episodes originally but was cut back, probably so they could switch their efforts to Teen Titans Go. Which is probably just as well because they were so all over the place and had so many characters that they were unable to spend hardly any time at all developing any character's story.
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Was it just me, or did Impulse grow a few inches and suddenly get redder hair at the end?
Granted, maybe the hair was supposed to be a deliberate choice he made, designed to make him look like Wally, but still he outgrew Tim in just a few days.

I remember reading an article with an interview with one of the show's creators way back in Season 1 where he indicated that one of the original team members would not survive past Season 2. Either the reporter/interviewer (or the most popular response post) had said they figure it would be KF, alluding to that fitting in with the DCU in some way (sorry, never followed the Flash family with the exception of Impulse when he first was introduced back in the 90's--so I was glad to see him this season, but wish he'd kept his own outfit and name, since Impulse is fitting). Others had thought it would be Superboy (again due to some parallel events, or simply because he was half-Luthor), and I personally thought it was M'gann which I felt this Season seemed to be setting up.

I think the leaving Wally out most of the season was possibly a way of "softening" the blow to the (especially younger) fans, but I agree this was a misstep whatever the motive, as Dick even acknowledged Wally was a founding member.

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Also, Wally's not dead. Just converted into pure kinetic energy and redistributed. Energy cannot be destroyed
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I remember that before Barry returned in the comics, he was said to have been converted into the very bolt of lightning that turned him into the Flash in the first place. That sort of fits with your theory.

It is also possible that he was either sent to the speedforce or was sent to another reality.
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Greg already stated that there is no speed force of Earth 16.
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So you're thinking along the lines of Simon Williams (Wonderman) over in the Marvel Universe? Well, considering that GLTAS borrowed (and improved IMHO) the Ultron storyline, it's possible I'll agree.
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In DC comics , typically when one of the Flashes turns into energy they are merged with the Speed Force - the source of their powers. So far all of the Flashes that have vanished like that have come back. Sometimes months later, sometimes years
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Hell, Wally's done it twice before at least. Once in the comics, once (extremely) briefly in JLU.
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I have so many emotions about this episode! Litterally, ANYONE else beside Spitfire!!!! Also I don't care for this reviewer.
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You can join DeangeloHill1 in storming his house then.
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This wasn't the greatest YJ episodes but I will still miss the series as a whole. On average I enjoyed the recent Cartoon Network animated block more than the majority of network/cable shows that I watch and will miss having them to watch.
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I've loved YJ. Green Lantern TAS I've been so-so about, but I've still watched (well, recorded and then watched) it. I just hope they give us something again soon from DC. :(
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I have been a fan of the DC characters / Super Heroes for my entire life and have held Marvel Super Heroes at a distant second. Yeah, I know many people feel it is the other way around, but I grew up reading comics during the 1960 (Silver Age).

Unfortunately for people like myself, Marvel is really the KING of TV and film. The DC track record is, well, a four letter word (actually several four letter words). DC really misses the point and while its been said this isn't the end of DC Nation, the replacements are NO WHERE NEAR AS GOOD as Green Lantern or Young Justice! There two series contain the DC characters who make up the heart and soul of DC. They have all the great ones including those who are suppose to be the replacement.

What DC needed to do was bring back the Silver / Gold age of comics to viewers using TV! It should introduce today's newest viewers to the wonders that are unlimited Super Heroes. IMHO, there is NOTHING WRONG and in fact every thing right with powerful heroes in both morality and raw power and intelligence.

DC and Cartoon Network has made my viewing so much easier given I'll now be able to find time for the Marvel line up. Yeah and it may mean I'll end up getting Marvel comic subscriptions and should the budget require it, well, maybe DC won't be seeing renewals. TV can and does help the publications (electronic and/or print).

Should DC Nation & Cartoon Network bring back GL & YJ, well, it will be a God send (sic?) and I won't mind the problem in figuring out my TV time budget and comic book buying budget.
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You seem to be forgetting the Timmverse (DCAU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_animated_universe). Not to mention the rest of the generally awesome DC animated movies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_DC_Comics

The vast majority of them have been at least critical successes, if not financial successes. Yes, Marvel is cleaning up in the theaters, but DC has been giving us awesome material in our homes.
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I don't know... they HAD Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes which was alright.

But for the moment they only really have "Ultimate Spider-Man" which gets mixed reviews. Too much focus on the Deadpool-like-comedy (Pool-Vision) and not enough on regular Spider-Man fun. At its core it's decent: OK animation, nice team-ups, Shield, etc. Just too many lame cut-a-ways.

Supposedly they have a new Avengers cartoon in the pipe, and that live-action Shield show (which sounds pretty cool). But at the moment, not too much.

Marvel has HAD awesome shows but they tend to only last 1-2 seasons.
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I've always found DC owns TV while Marvel owns movies, but right now DC doesn't seem interested in trying to own TV.
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Normally I'd agree, but Marvel doesn't have much on at the moment. Just Ultimate Spider-Man. MAYBE super hero squad, if that's still around (I doubt it).

Sure, they have 2 more shows coming up in 1-2 years (another Avengers cartoon, and the Shield live-action series) but just 1 show now.

And DC us also getting another 2 shows in 1-2 years.

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Or movies. HIYO.
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What, didn't you enjoy last summer's "Stand In Broad Daylight In The Street And Clumsily Brawl Until Someone Else Just Shoots The Villain"man Rises? Or next summer's Justice League Invisible movie starring nobody? Or Man of Not Remotely Like Superman of Steel coming this summer?
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I didn't really care for TDKR beyond Hardy's delightfully crazy voice and Hathway's work, but the movie was a clunky hollow mess.

And as I'm not the world's biggest Superman fan, I'm pretty indifferent toward Man of Steel. But then I liked Superman Returns. YEAH. I SAID IT.
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DC Nation has really been an experience. It's everything I hoped a superhero-focused block of programming could be. The shows have so far lived up to their potential, showing the full powerful extent of the kind of storytelling the genre is capable of. Here I thought only Timm and company were capable of creating such engaging stories -- I can finally say the torch has been passed.

Well, for a little while, anyway. It's a different world, one in which action cartoons have a much harder time surviving than they did in the 90's. And that's a shame, but even if this never happens again, I'll always be grateful that for one brief moment, I got that childhood feeling recaptured.
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YJ, Teen Titans, JL, JLU and Batman all had that quality. The first two episodes of JL would actually make a really good movie honestly. Avatar is another cartoon that goes beyond what you would expect.
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ooooh where to begin where to begin....first off I suspect I will be in the minority here but here I go. 1) the first season was eh the ESTABLISHMENT phase all teams need that, problem one they were all trying to prove themselves as heroes out of their predecessors 2) the problem is with the exception of Kid flash they still felt like the sidekicks and were still under the thumb of the greats too much involvement from the JLU(or whatever it is actually called here) plus it just felt a bit eh overall I mean predictable. I am an unpublished comic writer so hard to surprise me. season 2 welll here is the problem NO REASON NO TRANSISTION NO BIG EVENT NO NOTHING AND POOF FIVE YEARS NEW HEROES AND DESTROY ANYTHING THAT HAS POSSIBLY GONE ON BEFORE with a few remnants. seriously one of my fave DCs show up but no explanation and HIS PREVIOUS INCARNATION AS WELL that is something not good to do to an audience. Worse!!! ending the light/reach "saga" "mini series" whatever in a weak way seriously I mean are the light and the reach so sloppy as they were in that episode ? you want to kill someone don't just down them GO IN AND PUT A BULLET OR IN SOME CASES SWORD INTO THE HEAD. taking so long to ferret out infiltrators? for a super secret organization manumitting things on earth(even as a front) sloppy. As said why twenty when one would do? strategy should be better and have other diversions again very sloppy. the relationships of all sorts during parts of the world saving the end whatever wow just weak man(one small glimmer of hope STATIC SHOCK RESURRECTED but dangerous undertaking at best) WORSE THE PREDICTABLE BIG BACKER WHO HAD SAVAGE AS AN AGENT ON EARTH. This is a finale? come on weak weak weak weak. please note take what I say with a grain of Salt I am not a DCite my faves tend to be marvel toons for the MOST PART(noteable exception recently GL:TAS)
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They did the same thing with the old Justice League TV show. Every hero fighting somewhere and everywhere in the world. I thought Wally's death was a complete cop out but I won't blame the writers that much considering their show did get cancelled.

I can totally see a DC animated movie if they would allow it, as follow up with Darkseid. They still seem to be putting them out, so I'm hopeful that at least a movie can be made. It was a fun ride but I still wished that they stuck with the original team in season. But it was fun seeing all the heroes throughout this season.
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oh Watashii one thing(again warning possible spoiler) I don't for a minute believe wally is dead no corpous de le tie(probably butchered) no body no death. I fell for the OH MY GOD HE IS DEAD THING ONCE in Naruto since then it reminded me you have to see a body and that body STAYS DOWN for that person to be dead.
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Simply AMAZING. The perfect wrap up vs. intro to a new story line with just enough of every possible emotion to boot. I HAVE NO FREAKING IDEA WHY CN WOULD CANCEL SUCH A SHOW. Oh that's right they want to appeal to only a younger audience who by all accounts cannot tell the difference between a commercial and a show. JL, YJ, Avatar shows cartoons are not just something meant for children but until networks get that amazing shows will always get cancelled because the station targets 5 year old but air things for teens/20+.

At least it ended on a pretty decent note.
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Talk about your rubbing it in. During YJ, Cartoon Network was advertising next week with "New Green Lantern and new Young Justice." Thanks, guys: like a little more salt for those wounds?
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Haha. I noticed that. Real proof that no one's paying attention to these packages before they air.
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Curse you cartoon network and your sub intelligent executives this feels like Futurama getting canceled for the first time all over again... Is there any hope of this series getting revived elsewhere because I thoroughly loved it from start to finish... PLEASE DONT BE ALL DEAD... "Mostly dead means also slightly alive" The Princess Bride T_T
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I agree with most of your problems with this episode, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it boring. (Although Robin and Cassie's new-found relationship with Robin would've held more weight, if we'd ever actually seen them on a mission together)

Was Savage actually delivering the War-World to Darkseid? I thought he was using it to keep every other alien species off Earth.

Have the Light split up at this point? Do Luthor, Queen Bee and Ra's know about Darkseid? That I suppose is among many questions that will never be answered. (Although I'm certain fan-fic writers will try)

I found myself more driven emotionally by Aya's sacrifice than Kid Flash's death, which is a pity, but Greg Weisman himself admits this was a story focused season (with characters mostly added for fan-service more than necessity)

Darkseid and Vandal Savage would've most unlikely remained partners indefinitely, I'd like to think both are using each-other, I'd be interesting to see a villain who can play the Light at their own game.
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When I saw what the speedsters were planning on doing with the generator, I had a feeling one was going to end up being lost. However, I thought it would be Barry Allen, leaving Wally to become the Flash in his place and putting a strain on his relationship with Artemis because he would be back to a full time hero status.

I am sad that this is the final episode, the series overall has been a great addition to the DC universe. The animation was top notch, the voice acting was pretty well done, and the writing had enough for adults and kids.

It is my hope that the series could find its way to another network along with Green Lantern. The Hub has had success airing reruns of other DC animated programs, maybe the network would be willing to take on the two shows as new first run programming to capitalize on that success.
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The whole thing with the Flashes (minus Jay Garrick, I know he's a little older but how long would it have taken him to run to the artic? ) running in circles was all very Crisis on Infinite Earths\Infinite Crisis
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If the series had continued I'm sure Kid Flash would have returned, he probably became one with the Speed Force like The Flash once did in a Justice League episode.
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that's right on plus SOMETIMES even with a body they don't stay dead but it was meant to be a OH MY IT HAS SOOO AFFECTED MY LIFE EVENT in the show.
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Yeah, that's what I figured except the devices were messing with the magnetic field of the earth so when he dissipated he probably got spread out around the planet em field. They could have had episodes in the next season where he appeared briefly during lightning storms or maybe blackouts caused by him and with the addition of Static to the team, that could have been the perfect avenue to bring Wally back.

He was only one day till retirement!
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lol at the retirement thing.
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Quite frankly, I'm just glad this is over. I kept watching simply because I was invested in the show and kept hoping it would somehow pan out into something worthwhile. Guess I'll just hope they revamp a Justice League cartoon sometime in the future.
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Noel Kirkpatrick has nothing to do with Cartoon Network cancelling the series.
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Oh were that I would....would that I were...? IF ONLY. There. That works.
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There is not going to be a season 3 on cartoon network, Same with Green Lantern. Hopefully there will be more seasons of both shows on other networks but there has been no information yet. They are being replaced with Batman Beware and Tenn Titans Go. You should direct your anger towards whoever it was at cartoon network decided not to renew two very good shows and not the reviewer
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YEAH! Let's raise an army of villagers and storm that guy's house! Or hers! There's no way to know who wrote the article! No way at all! Let's just burn everything down until we find him! Or her! It's completely this gender-less reviewer's fault that there's not going to be a new season!
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I'll supply the pitchforks.
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I'll supply the torches.
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I'm gonna come with my arsenal of weapons looking like ... well Arsenal the first time we see him on the team. They're all gonna feel my wrath
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Excellent! Someone queue up that song from Beauty and the Beast where Gaston riles up the townsfolk, and we'll go kill this reviewer.

Through the links, through the pages
Through the poor punctuation
It's a nightmare but its one awfully written post
Hit SUBMIT on a poorly phrased diatribe then you're done
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It was an average episode for me as well. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt the finale was "business as usual." It is not to say I didn't like it or that there wasn't great parts like Wally's big sacrifce or seeing Darksied at the end. Black's fast defeat and the Reach weapons of mass destruction didn't feel threatening with how fast they went down.

Jamie parts were nice, since it wrapped his story in this arc. It was fun to see Aqualad and Lagoon bonding and moving him away from SB/MM's relationship. Great show, sad to see it end, and it was a fun ride.
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The light were a bunch of supervillian secret society types whose big plans whatever they were never came to fruition! Which were in my mind the illuminati! They want to enslave humanity from the shadows, and the light should of been more of a focus this season than the lame reach. I agree with tv.com that this season was anticlimactic and rushed because the C.N. wants 2be more kid friendly! (S.W.C.W. sn.5 Teentitansgo) We don't need a childish remake of a great action anime D.C. show from the mid 00's. If great shows like Y.J. and G.L. get canceled I give T.t.go 1 season. Can any1 tell me why Y.j. and G.l. got cancelled? I thought the ratings were doing pretty well.

My final thoughts are both y.j. and g.l. were great shows that could of gone on for another season. To respond to iheartfrosty I don't think they will do a do a d.c. animated movie of y.j. to wrap up the DArkseid warworld story because I believe the writers were saying even though we won't see what apokolips was planning, we know its something super sinister, and the heroes will stop them. Just like they always do in every incarnation/reality/timeline they do! Like the Justice League cartoons ,comix etc. (Business as usual;-)
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Bruce Timm said that the lack of a toy line for GL:TAS was a bit of a deal breaker as licensing characters helps offset the sizable cost of animation production. But given the lack of success with the GL movie toyline, they couldn't convince a toy company to pick up the license to make toys for that show.

Young Justice had a toy line, but it mostly flopped. It seemed pretty muddled as a line (and all the new characters in season 2 seemed like an attempt to create more toy options), and never seemed advertised (I've seen more ads for the new Turtles show during DC Nation than I have for YJ).
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Ouch, this review starts brutally. Not inaccurately, but brutal none the less. The Black Beetle fight really was not worth the price of admission.

I found the fights around the world to destroy the MacGuffins interesting as small moments on their own, but they weren't a meal, just a taste, and each one was easier than the last... until the final one, which was the easiest of all, except for the cost.

Wally's death was not surprising, any time they play a character was wanting to retire, coming back for one last save, and that sort of thing, you know the death card is on the table. Then you have Artemis' one last turn as a hero and then she gets to go back to their life together, and you suspect that's the emotional core couple that's going to get screwed over (and it can't be Artemis because they already killed her once). So finally him zeta-tubing away when learning that Flash and Impulse weren't going to be enough cemented Wally's death. The show felt like it needed to pay a heavy price for all the success it was enjoying, and Wally West paid the price because that's where the pieces all fit.

I am not a fan whatsoever of Darkseid or Apokolips, to see it be the ultimate plan for Vandal Savage was a disappointment, but not a surprise because that was the only way to escalate things. It's an escalation that would have taken our heroes further and further away from their own domain and into less believable realms of fantasy, so I'd rather imagine that storyline as years away than the next season's big thing.

What the hell was Snapper Carr doing in this episode? That was such a confusing addition. And Adam Strange's inclusion was a bit distracting as well. Let's just pretend the awfulness that was M'Gann and Conner's reconciliation was there only to serve as setup to the Superfriends. And where the hell did Static Shock come from? That was fine except it made no sense from the setup right beforehand of being a mission straight from the Watchtower where he wasn't.

Sad to see all these shows go at once. It seems like these networks have no interest in building up the adventure show anymore and we fans pay the price. I'm going to miss Young Justice most of all, I think, because of the breadth of characters and the interplay between them.

This wasn't a terribly surprising finale, it had too much to do at once so nothing got to breath on its own, but it handled most of it adequately that I felt more bummed that the show was gone than this being the way it went out. I really liked Young Justice, it was a mess this season but it was an interesting mess, and it had a fantastic foundation.
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I was just so bored, JT_Kirk. So bored. I get snippy. To be fair, I think I've been a lot meaner to the show earlier in its run, when I was blogging about it and not just writing about it here.

Yeah, action shows just aren't hitting, and I'm not sure why (beyond the fact that they're probably more expensive to produce). I mean, there are good ones out there (Legend of Korra, when are you coming back beyond some vague 2013-2014 date?), but on the whole? Not really. I'm not optimistic about the new Marvel offerings, but I admit I'm basing that on the decidedly negative opinion I have of Ultimate Spider-Man. I haven't seen much in the way about Beware the Batman, so I'm still waiting. With Glen Murakami behind it, there's at least some glimmer of hope.

I still want my Adam Strange spin-off...
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Yikes, sounds like they really lost you with this one. I suppose if this had been in a sizzle reel or a promo reel this show never would have gotten picked up.

I think networks are afraid of the costs associated, that being the risk of losing girls and younger kids (or more specifically the advertisers that go with it). Every other type of show on Cartoon Network gets heavily promoted and gets mid-week afterschool timeslot reruns, yet consistently for the last few cycles of shows they've come down like a ton of bricks on action. It's a bad mindset as it drives older kids away from the network entirely, I guess the thinking being they're gonna play video games no matter what, but it kills a broader voice for the network and it ensures toys don't sell. Look at what they're replacing these shows with, how does anybody actually want another whole SERIES of the same Teen Titans we had a decade ago? They're cute and cheap in DC Nation Shorts now, but it's over, if they need longer stories go show the original series or pimp out the comic books based on it. Beware the Batman looks like a pastiche of bad ideas cobbled together to make a "gritty action show" while selling Batman himself down the river.

I don't feel any hope or interest in the next round of action/adventure shows, and that's sad. Even Transformers Prime - which is pretty bad - is 13 episodes and dead, then waiting a year and a half for another new series. Nobody wants to do action/adventure and it's going to hurt them. Were I in the position, I'd be re-airing during mid-week stuff from the '80s like Thundercats, Silverhawks, Robotech, Voltron, Masters of the Universe, etc., and then if they built up an audience roll those viewers into the newer iterations when possible - it's better than Angry Orange and Johnny Test all day.

I can't fathom where an Adam Strange cartoon could go, that'd be pretty out there.
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Will miss young justice, one of the last animated shows I actually watched
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I know the series is cancelled and this is such a far fetched idea but could WB Animation produce a stand alone film to do the whole Darkseid thing? Like a straight-to-DVD sitch?
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You never know, won't be for awhile though. Justice League Unlimited had a script movie that became a DC animated film, Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, but it came out 4 years after the show was cancelled. So probably be a long time till we see something.
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It's feasible that they could. Do you think it'd be good at 76 minutes though? That's about how long the direct-to-DVD films typically are.
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it'll be a good 60 to 90 minutes. I don't know how long the DC animated universe movies are but they've all been pretty darn good.
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So I take it you've never seen The Dark Knight Returns? Two hours and 29 minutes.
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Rolling my eyes at you, linkthehero82.

First, I said "typically" not "always." so you're just showing that you didn't read the comment.

Each PART is 76 minutes each. Timm acknowledged that they had to received permission to do a two-parter like that, and I imagine for production purposes that each part had its own production budget. Each part seems to be counting as an individual film in their production cycle, no extra direct-to-video films being released as a result of the two-part structure. Same 3 to 4 films a year slate.
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