Liz: Xena works as a straight ahead tits-and-ass action show for lack of a more intellectual term. It`s an action show but the lead is first of all a woman and second of all a woman who never apologizes for being strong. It features two women who have a very intense relationship, who do not spend all of their time talking about either their sanitary protection or their boyfriends. In this way it ends up being, compared to what is typically on television, I think, fairly subversive. I don`t think we could get away with all that if it weren`t working on the fact that it is entertaining.