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- Why was seaquest Canceled anyways? Anyone have any idea?You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
- Which why the last season of the show was called seaQuest 2023. It was an atempt to give the show a much darker and edger fell to the show, in an attempt to get more rattings for the show.
While I did like the darker side of the show, it give the show are more realist feel with the show.You must be registered and logged in to post a message. - I always thought the show was good and ahead of its time. maybe it was to far ahead of its time. I watched a couple of the seaquest 2023 and i did not like those. I like the ones was Roy as the caption.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
rustbuckets4 wrote: I always thought the show was good and ahead of its time. maybe it was to far ahead of its time. I watched a couple of the seaquest 2023 and i did not like those. I like the ones was Roy as the caption.
That how my Mom felt about the last season of the show, plus Spielberg who was one of the prouders from season 1 and 2, wasn't even apart of the thrid season.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.- Alas, Steven Spielberg was not known for his success as a TV producer or executive producer. Amazing Stories, Family Dog, Class of '61, are all evidence of this. The only brief exceptions were in non-primetime cartoon series (Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, Pinky and the Brain).
SeaQuest DSV just solidified the pattern (if I remember correctly, the only reason it was not cancelled in the first season was that Spielberg had a two-season commitment from NBC before he started).You must be registered and logged in to post a message. doxtorray wrote: Alas, Steven Spielberg was not known for his success as a TV producer or executive producer. Amazing Stories, Family Dog, Class of '61, are all evidence of this. The only brief exceptions were in non-primetime cartoon series (Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, Pinky and the Brain).
SeaQuest DSV just solidified the pattern (if I remember correctly, the only reason it was not cancelled in the first season was that Spielberg had a two-season commitment from NBC before he started).
Thats Interesting. So it was cancelled after the first season but the show staied for another 2 years because of a contract. Interesting.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.- Actually, I stand corrected. The commitment was not the only factor. The commitment with Amblin Enterainment was for one full season (22 episodes) rather than two seasons. I did correctly remember it being a big deal at the time it was announced, and taken as a sign of NBC's desperation at the time, but I was incorrect about the length. NBC's ratings overall were another reason SeaQuest lasted as long as it did (and not longer).
By the time the first season ('93-94) was over, SeaQuest was ranked 82nd of all primetime shows, which would normally have meant cancellation. However, ratings were good with teens, partly due to Jonathan Brandis's popularity, and NBC's ratings in general were really bad. Also, some of the shows they were planning for the 1994-95 season did not work out. So, NBC kept the show for a second season, provided some things were done to spice it up.
In the second season, the ratings improved, but so had NBC's position overall (thanks to them picking up ER).
After the 1994-95 season, NBC was willing to take a chance that the show was finally finding an audience, but wanted even more sci-fi and more action, and would only commit for 13 episodes. That was all there were.
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http://blogs.mediavillage.com/retro/archives/2005/10/lost_at_seaques.htmlYou must be registered and logged in to post a message. - i love the first season of seaquest. i really hated season 2 and 3, the addition of the genetically engineered people were just silly. the writers destroyed the show by doing that.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
Yes, I know it's been a while.. but I thought I'd post what I know of what happened.. which isn't much.
After the 1st season, they -thought- they were cancelled. They even dismantled the set. So it was a surprise when the show was renewed. For one reason or another (can't remember) they relocated to Florida and the show's CMO refused to move. So she was dropped. The other characters that were dropped were deemed 'too old'. And it all went downhill from there.
The people who thought the dropped actors were too old also started to take control over the writing and developement of the show, trying to be more Star Trek like to catch hold of the TNG audience. A lot of fans were not happy with that move (it shifted from 'sci-fact' to almost hardcore sci-fi)and the second season proved to be badly recieved by the same fans. Though ratings were steady enough (and NBC lacked other programs to fill their spot) that they went ahead with a half season that would form the show's 3rd, and last, season.
The 3rd season did prove to be darker and, I heard, the stories got better.. but not good enough to bring the ratings up and it was finally cancelled. I -adored- the 1st season. Enough that, even though fans of the shows completely despises the 2nd season and listed a lot of examples of why it was bad, I started watching it because I love the Captain Bridger character. I got about 8 episodes in and stopped. The 2nd season really -was- a disappointment and not worth the time. So, I can't comment on the 3rd season because I haven't seen it.
Edited on 02/04/2007 2:07amYou must be registered and logged in to post a message.- I loved the first season and liked the second but hated number 3. I didn't like it even a little.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
nyxlily wrote: Yes, I know it's been a while.. but I thought I'd post what I know of what happened.. which isn't much.
After the 1st season, they -thought- they were cancelled. They even dismantled the set. So it was a surprise when the show was renewed. For one reason or another (can't remember) they relocated to Florida and the show's CMO refused to move. So she was dropped. The other characters that were dropped were deemed 'too old'. And it all went downhill from there.
The people who thought the dropped actors were too old also started to take control over the writing and developement of the show, trying to be more Star Trek like to catch hold of the TNG audience. A lot of fans were not happy with that move (it shifted from 'sci-fact' to almost hardcore sci-fi)and the second season proved to be badly recieved by the same fans. Though ratings were steady enough (and NBC lacked other programs to fill their spot) that they went ahead with a half season that would form the show's 3rd, and last, season.
The 3rd season did prove to be darker and, I heard, the stories got better.. but not good enough to bring the ratings up and it was finally cancelled. I -adored- the 1st season. Enough that, even though fans of the shows completely despises the 2nd season and listed a lot of examples of why it was bad, I started watching it because I love the Captain Bridger character. I got about 8 episodes in and stopped. The 2nd season really -was- a disappointment and not worth the time. So, I can't comment on the 3rd season because I haven't seen it.
They thought that they would be cancelled before second season started up, which is why they blew up the SeaQuest at the end of season one.
They moved to Florida because of some problem with the studio if I remember correctly. Something was up in California, so they had to go to Florida, which is why they created a new base (similar to Pearl harbor) The actress to play Westphalen couldn't move, so they got Wendy.
Roy Scheider refused to captain for season three because of the way the stories were going.
The only reason he was so keen on working on seaQuest was it's attention to detail and reality. Towards the end of season two they were stepping away from science fact and into science fiction.
He was however signed on for season three, but managed to work out his contract so he could make cameos here and there, but not be in every episode.
Granted we all love stuff like Startrek, but it's sciene fiction, whereas, the people with Seaquest were all rather proud of their closeness to reality.
I loved seaquest as a youngling, and when I bought season 1 on dvd, I sat rapt watching the television. As nerdy and depressing as this sounds, I felt like I had gone back HOME. I knew those corridors as well as any personnel. It was amazing to see it and it made me feel homesick. For those that know me, they know that's not possible, since I don't really have a home.
Sadly, two of the actors died within months of each other. *sigh*You must be registered and logged in to post a message.- I just can't imagine how they could get rid of Stacy Haiduk and John D'Aquino in the second season.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
- I remember, Roy Scheider couldn't do the 3rd season due to a stroke he had between season 2 and 3- if you see the first 2 or 3 eps of the 3rd season you can see he is having a hard time talking and the side of his face was messed up. plus, once the show started going all aliens and space travel they lost a lot of viewers, thus the ratings tanked.
the name was changed for the 3rd season because it was 10 years in the futur, as at the end of the 2nd season they were taken to the alien planet and it took 10 years for them to get back to earth.You must be registered and logged in to post a message. kdtfiles wrote: I remember, Roy Scheider couldn't do the 3rd season due to a stroke he had between season 2 and 3- if you see the first 2 or 3 eps of the 3rd season you can see he is having a hard time talking and the side of his face was messed up. plus, once the show started going all aliens and space travel they lost a lot of viewers, thus the ratings tanked.
the name was changed for the 3rd season because it was 10 years in the futur, as at the end of the 2nd season they were taken to the alien planet and it took 10 years for them to get back to earth.
The reason it took so long was because the alien tech that transported them worked kinda strangely, because it was saving the lives of the people it was sending back. Marco got left behind, either because he died, or because he elected to stay behind.
BUT Roy Scheider REFUSED to go along with the way the series was headed, and THAT is why he didn't continue as the captain. He couldn't worm his way out of his contract, so fixed it so he would make occasional appearances, but that's it. It was getting too much science fantasy, instead of the reality it was planned to have.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.- I liked the firt season, because it was "educational". I was fun to watch and it was grounded.
When the second season came, I kinda lost interest in the series, but I still watched it, but it was no longer a "MUST WATCH SHOW" for me as season one was. Plus to this date I've never ever seen the second season finale.
Third season was a step up for the series, I felt that the series finally found it's place, and I was enjoying the series very much ! But cancelled into the middle of the season, the series ended on a cliffhanger, that will never be resolved.
The only reason why seaQuest was picked up was that Spielberg was attached to it. When the first season tanked in the ratings, but NBC decided to give it another chance, since like previously stated in the thread was the teens were tuning in to watch Jonathan Brandis.
When the second season came, NBC renewed it, but now they wanted it their way. More Sci-Fi & action stories less Sci-Fact. Also the series moved to Florida because NBC had cut the budget. Also we lost our favorite characters, and got worse ones instead.
Then season 3 came around. Again the ratings were a let down, so NBC was going to cancel it, but when another project fell trough, they decided to give seaQuest one more chance and te-tooled the show, so it became more millitary show. A new timeslot was given to seaQuest, and a shakeup of the cast was done, we lost Bridger, Wendy (who I NEVER LIKED) and Ortiz. in came Captain Hudson and Lt. Fredricks
After the third season premiered the critics were praising the series, saying that it finally found it's place. But again as always ratings played in and half-way through season 3, the series was cancelled.You must be registered and logged in to post a message. - to put it in the easys answer it was cut because of poor rateing in the us. the network said that the ratings had drop and that they were running out of stories to tell.
You must be registered and logged in to post a message. seaqueastdsv wrote: to put it in the easys answer it was cut because of poor rateing in the us. the network said that the ratings had drop and that they were running out of stories to tell. At least it wasn't airing today - with the ratings-hunger of today's networks, most shows don't get enough time to try to find an audience. seaQuest may have faded away, but it had a generous run. Gone are the days when networks would be willing to give a show a chance to find its legs. Now, if you don't do huge numbers from the start, you get the axe!
You must be registered and logged in to post a message.- thats so true. and its a shame. the networks need to give some shows a chance. them might try putting a show on a certain time slot. and see what happen.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
- It also didn't help the series had to face Lois & Clark, X-Files and Murder She Wrote at various times.
It was Star Trek: Seaquest after season 1 as was Disney's Gargoyles with so many Trek folk on appearing on both shows.
And was the UEO headquarters that was seen during season 2 from Power Rangers Time Force? They both looked the same despite being shown at different angles.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
