Planet Green (ended 2008)
Using the pilgrims reference was probably an oversight. They could've remained in England to try to improve the country, fix the system, and put an end to poverty... But this is a bit easier said than done. The pilgrims themselves fled to the Americas, remember, to escape the rampant religious persecution, extreme class-stratification and iron-fisted rule imposed by the British Empire.
(And as an added twist of irony, the task of the original Minutemen was to keep the natives (the ORIGINAL owners of the land) out of the American colonies)Again, easier said than done. I do agree that the best way to solve matters is to work them through rather than fleeing the country, but thing's aren't great in Mexico, and I don't think it's fair to put that sort of blame on the desperation of people searching for money to help their families. There's an enormous gap between rich and poor, and the middle class (if any) is hanging by a thread.
|From my own experiences in Mexico I know there are good areas in Mexico. Why not legally flee to more prosperous parts of Mexico rather than illegally fleeing to the USA?|
This doesn't make much sense. If the country's poor, it's poor. Moving to a rich part of the country doesn't change the enormous stratification of the system, it just increases the amount of beggars. If there were enough jobs available in Mexico, ones that actually paid livable wages, there wouldn't be a problem. That's why mexicans are sneaking across the border in the first place: The U.S. have jobs available to them.
|One of the protesters had a sign saying "Who is going to build your fence?" Well, if they are such good builders and hard workers, why did the buildings look so poor in Mexico?|
Um, yeah... No offense, but that's a pretty dumb argument. The poor areas of Mexico look poor because... they're poor! It isn't a matter of ability or craftsmanship, it's a matter of upkeep and of access to materials... which the poor don't have.
Immigration is indeed a tricky issue in the United States, and illegal immigration is, yes, illegal. But when you get certain nuts who begin to claim that illegal immigrants are systematically destroying the nation, the issue mutates into what's essentially racism. Since 1990, the American unemployment rate has been fairly steady at 5%, which is pretty good proof on its own that the "crisis" is fairly overblown. I think the Minutemen do have good intentions, but that doesn't make them right. Building a wall is the most idiotic solution ever devised, one that doesn't work, and one that costs far much more money than the immigrants are assumed to be taking away from legal employees. All in all, the Statue of Liberty has a very clear message on its front.
No wait, I do. It's hard for an upper or even middle-class person to understand poverty. With that said, however, I find it absolutely absurd for you to assume that poverty is all in the mind. You're actually implying that people starve to death by choice? By lack of perspective? By laziness? What is it?
Poverty IS a lack of access to resources. That's essentially the definition of poverty. I furthermore think it's pretty arrogant to argue that they just need to work harder to find wealth. That kind of reasoning is so distant from reality it's almost comical. Again: Easier said than done. Try working at a soup kitchen. Check out your local temp job agency. Hell, look at New Orleans: I suppose those people lost their homes post-Katrina because they weren't trying hard enough?
You're ignoring circumstance and assuming that these people somehow have the ability to overcome every problem they face. You can't get anymore jaded than that.
It isn't my intention to insult, but I can't even begin to fathom how you can claim that poverty is psychological.
|One thing I don't understand and I am not judging the people for it is (for example the family on this episode who's annual income is only $15,000) why keep having more children and making it that much more difficult to survive?|
I'am not so sure it's a religion thing sometimes it's a government thing from the view of these families...the lower the income and the more kids you have the more programs you might get over a family with a higher income and just as many kids (welfare, food stamps, free lunch programs, free if not low cost to health care). I know many people who are poor and have way too many kids and aren't the slightest big catholic these include Mexicans and other Latin Americans so just like in America, I think there are other reasons why this is happening.