will be making changes to the Private Message system the week of Jan 26, 2015. For more information click here

7th Heaven

Season 5 Episode 1

Here We Go Again

Aired Sunday 8:00 PM Oct 02, 2000 on The CW
out of 10
User Rating
45 votes

By Users

Episode Summary

Major changes are afoot in the Camden household as Mary starts a new job for the umpteenth time--and has no intent to go to college anytime soon. She has been more than her parents can handle over the past few months, but the best is yet to come when she decides that minimum wage as a waitress is enough to afford a lavish sports car. As school begins for the rest of the kids, Lucy is eager to make her senior year "the best ever", while a nervous Simon has a less optimistic approach to starting his freshman year. Ruthie is ready to quit school for good when she meets her fifth grade teacher, and college student Matt considers the pre-med program.moreless

Who was the Episode MVP ?

No results found.
No results found.
No results found.
  • This was great!

    I really liked this episode. It showed how Mary postponed college so she could find out what she really wanted to do. Heather breaks up with Matt. Ruthie gets into Ms. Riddle's class and is upset. Simon's first day of high school and Lucy finds out about Andrew Nayloss. Annie starts school again and Eric is angry because of Mary.

    I really thought this episode was great! I never really liked Andrew Nayloss and I despised him for getting a girl in Europe pregnant. Ruthie learns she could really make a difference and I think that is an important message. Simon gets in trouble because he toilet papers a house so he could make new friends. I hate that Mary has to be irresponsible, but overall this episode was great! I give it a 9.5.moreless
Elizabeth Ruscio

Elizabeth Ruscio

Ms. Riddle

Guest Star

Kyle Sabihy

Kyle Sabihy


Guest Star

Ray Bengston

Ray Bengston

Mr. Nayloss

Guest Star

Will Estes

Will Estes

Andrew Nayloss

Recurring Role

Christopher Michael

Christopher Michael

Sergeant Michaels

Recurring Role

Michael Canavan

Michael Canavan


Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (1)

    • When Eric staples the dark pink blouse over Lucy's stomach-baring black top, notice that he staples it unevenly. However, when Lucy is at school in future scenes, it looks normal.

  • QUOTES (10)

    • Ruthie: This isn't just about Miss Riddle and me. When I thought about it, I'm not just angry that I'm in her class again. I'm angry about a whole lot of stuff. Are we tired of being told to be quiet?
      Students: Yeah!
      Ruthie: Are we tired of being made to feel stupid when we don't know something?
      Students: Yeah!
      Ruthie: Are we tired of not being able to ask questions?
      Students: Yeah!
      Ruthie: We're tired of having no choices and having grown-ups making bad choices for us.
      Students: Yeah!
      Ruthie: We are tired of eating bad school food. Ketchup as a vegetable? I don't think so.
      Students: Yeah!
      Ruthie: And if we have to learn about the stuff that doesn't interest us, why can't we also learn about the stuff that does interest us? Is it too much work to give us each individual assignments if we're willing to do them?
      Students: Yeah!
      Ruthie: And can't the adults do something about school safety? Aren't you scared that you're gonna get shot, or that someone else is gonna get shot? I am. There are a lot of angry kids around here. Why can't someone help them do something with their anger? I can tell you that it helps just to talk. And why can't someone help the kids who come to school hungry? It's not their fault their parents can't feed them. And why can't someone help the kids who get hit every night when they go home? Can't someone protect them? Won't someone help us? I don't just need a new teacher. We need a revolution!
      Students: Yeah!!! (they all stand up) Ruthie! Ruthie! Ruthie!

    • Mary: Yes, I'm starting a new job today.
      Eric: You've had a new job every week this summer.
      Mary: That's not true. I was a day camp counselor for almost three weeks.
      Eric: (sarcastically) Oh, how could I forget three whole weeks?
      Mary: You know, just because you're mad at Mom doesn't mean you have to take it out on me.
      Eric: I'm not angry--the word is angry--at your mom, and I'm not taking it out on anyone.

    • Eric: I'm angry at you for just giving up on college. And now, unfortunately, I'm even angrier at you because you bought a car, and that particular car. Did you know that I worked my way through college, and I've worked for 20 years, and a sports car is my dream, and I can't afford one?
      Mary: Yes, I know that, but can I help it if I can afford it?
      Eric: (laughs to himself, counts to 10 to collect himself) You bought it, you pay for it. I'm gonna let you be responsible for you. And if you ever change your mind and decide you don't like working an endless string of jobs that have absolutely no meaning for you, then you're still going to have to pay for the car.
      Mary: I know. Maybe I can even sell it.
      Eric: Not for what you paid for it.
      Mary: Well, great. If I can make money off of it, I'll put it toward my college tuition.

    • Mary: Hello?!?!? Is anyone listening to me? I need a car!
      Annie: Hello! Earn money and buy one.
      Mary: You guys bought Matt a car. Why can't you buy me a car?
      Annie: Matt was going to college. You, on the other hand, are not going to college. You are working, so you can buy your own car. How much money have you saved this summer?
      Mary: Saved? On what I make? Please. You guys are forcing me to buy on credit, and you can stop talking about college, because I'm not going to college until I figure out what I'm going to college for.
      Eric: Well, maybe so you can earn a living and someday even have your own house, and your own car.
      Mary: Well, maybe I don't want to have my own house. You don't own this home; this is the Church's home.
      Eric: Yes, but this house is a benefit of my job, which I earned after five years of college and we do have a car. Two cars. Well, three if you count the one we bought for Matt, who's in college.

    • Mary: Look, if I never go to college are you really going to be this mad at me for the rest of my life?
      Eric: (Hugs her) Yes. Because you're too smart not to learn all you can as long as you can.

    • (Ms. Riddle walks into room)
      Ruthie: She called me stupid last year.
      Classmate #1: She called me a moron.
      Classmate #2: She called me an imbisol!

    • Simon: Don't be stupid.
      Ruthie: Did you just call me stupid?
      Simon: Yeah, I did.
      Ruthie: No wonder you don't have any friends.

    • Ruthie: (About Ms. Riddle) She's mean! She's really mean. And she makes me want to do something really, really bad.

    • Andrew: (Explaining to Lucy about his new girlfriend in France) We're pregnant... So I'm moving to France.

    • Annie: I've signed up for school today.
      Eric: What school?
      Annie: College, Crawford. I want to get my teaching credentials in early childhood education.
      Eric: Now? You do know that we have 7 kids now.
      Annie: We have the twins and Ruthie, but Simon starts high school tomorrow, Lucy graduates high school this year, Mary's out of high school and working and Matt is out on his own.
      Eric to Annie: Matt is hardly out on his own. He sleeps out on his own. He's still a kid.
      Annie: Oh stop it. He and Heather are practically married.
      Eric: No they're not. That's just what we say to each other whenever we think those two might be shacking up. And Mary is going to college, she's going to go to college eventually... I hope, as soon as she figures out that she doesn't enjoy minimum wage jobs.
      Annie: Unfortunately, I think Mary is quite happy with her stint in the world of minimum wage.
      Eric: Well I'm not happy with it. With my luck she'll probably decide to go to college when Lucy decides to go and with Matt's we'll have 3 tuitions to pay, oh plus yours. And by the way, who says that Lucy won't have the kind of senior year that Mary had. And Simon is starting high school. Do you remember what it was like when Matt started high school? High school boys are, well they're high school boys. And we shouldn't forget Ruthie, who is well on her way to being more difficult than all the other kids rolled into one. Oh and bonus, the twins are entering the terrible twos. They are not entering, they are there.
      Annie: So what are you saying? That the family is so dangerous that I can't take 1 or 2 hours away from them to take one course? I'm going back to school!
      Eric: When were you going to tell me this, as you were backing out of the driveway tomorrow morning?
      Annie: No I planned to tell you just when I told you.
      Eric: (Sarcastic) Well thank you Mrs. Camden!

  • NOTES (5)

    • Nigel Hamilton (David Netter) is officially written out of the show as Simon states he goes to another school district. Also, Maureen Flannigan (Shana) is no longer a full/recurring cast member on the show. She no longer appears in the opening credits.

    • In Germany this episode is known as, "Rage-Been Inflamed", translated.

    • For the majority of this season, Roswell aired in the spot opposite 7th Heaven on the WB.

    • Music featured in this episode was from a track off of Marie Wilson's Real Life CD, a track off of Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band's Live On CD and a track off of Alice Deejay's Who Needs Guitars Anyway CD.

    • This episode, "Here We Go Again," starts the beginning of the 5th season and the 7 episode-arc of Mary's (Jessica Biel) downward spiral to rock-bottom. Jessica Biel (Mary Camden) will appear in the first 7 episodes of the 5th season and then appear as a recurring character in some more episodes later in the season.