7th Heaven

Season 9 Episode 18

Honor Thy Mother

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Aired Sunday 8:00 PM Apr 25, 2005 on The CW
8.5
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A non-church patron Marie enlists Eric's help in handling her elderly mother, Mrs. Wagner into getting her into a nursing home, but Eric gets a different impression when he finally meets Mrs. Wagner and sees that she doesn't need help and is still very capable. In fact, it turns out Marie may need more help than her mother as she's very unhappy with her life. But things turn out bad later on when Mrs. Wagner ends up in the emergency room due to her stress from her daughter. Ruthie puts up a fight with Lucy while shopping as she wants to spend the day with Vincent without Annie knowing about it. Ruthie wants to go to a family dinner with Vincent. Although, it inevitably blows up in her face and leads to an interesting conversation with Annie and Lucy in the driveway. Ben (guest-star Geoff Stults) shows up in Glen Oak to pay Kevin and his new family a visit and makes himself well at home again in the garage apartment. But Kevin is not happy to see his brother as he wanted his mom and husband Frank to come over and see Savannah first. Lastly, the family spends the day setting up a special family dinner of what would've been Annie's mother, Jenny, her 75th birthday.moreless

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  • To mothers and daughters everywhere!

    10
    Annie is having a special dinner for Grandma Jenny on her birthday. Ruthie disobeys Annie's orders to not see Vincent. She makes a secret rendezvous with him. Martin is out of town for a baseball tournament. Ben unexpectedly shows up. Kevin and Ben's mom tells Lucy that Ben is looking for Mary. Vincent breaks up with Ruthie. Eric helps a woman, Marie, and her mother at the church. Marie wants to help take care of her mom, but her mom is saying that she doesn't need any help.



    This was a great episode! It was great seeing Ben again! I also like how the opening credits change a little. I think Ruthie kind of deserved a break up because she disobeyed Annie and through Lucy. This episode gets a 10!moreless
  • Mothers Know Best

    7.0
    Well after watching this episode again last night, I decided to write my first review.



    To begin, this episode was by far not my favorite, however there were definitely some highlights (and some disappointments) to this episode. As my title suggests, "A Mother Knows Best" is a perfect reflection to this episode. Let's break it down:



    ANNIE: Wow, finally one Annie-centered episode! I'm very happy for that. Annie Camden is such an underused character these days. Well basically it's understandable about her wanting to have a family dinner in honor of her deceased mother, Jenny. I almost wish we could hear more about her mother more often, and it was quite a disappointment that Alice Hirson didn't appear in this episode in a flashback or something. But overall, I can't complain with this storyline. Annie had every right to be upset about Ruthie lying to her and going out with Vincent, after she specifically told her not to. It was a very touching storyline, and I hope they will continue to use Annie's character more as we progress into 7th Heaven's 10th season.



    ERIC: Finally, we get to see an episode with Eric back at work! After watching earlier episodes from Season 9, I've realized that we don't get to see him counseling people as much as we used too. A little disappointing. This storyline didn't do too much for me, but it was decent. Louise Fletcher and Melissa Gilbert did a good job portraying a single woman trying to take care of her elderly mother. I wish they hadn't brought in the subject of adoption - do they HAVE to mention that every couple of episodes? But other than that, I can't complain too much about this storyline. A little different from what we're used to, yet it fit perfectly with the title, and this week's episode.



    LUCY/KEVIN/BEN: Okay this was the least interesting storyline to me. Lucy was actually sane in this episode! That was nice. But aside from that, I can't find anything positive to say about this storyline, except why do they insist on calling Bo Derek, "Kevin's mom"? A little lame, huh? And Ben...wow that was just random. Of course now that I'm writing this review AFTER I've seen the episodes that follow, I know what happens, but still...wow. Ben, get over yourself. I can't stand your character - it seems that when you're not eating, you're watching TV, and when you're not doing either of the above - you're chasing Mary. How pathetic. This is beyond creepy, man. You need to move on with your life. And the whole back and forth time discussing the film was lame too.



    As for the whole Kevin/Mom storyline, what another complete waste of air time. Either you want to see your granddaughter or you don't! Don't bring Frank into this, I couldn't stand their dialogue. So very pointless and annoying. Again, I could have done without this storyline. Why couldn't we have just focused on Lucy, whom I actually liked in this episode, without bringing in the Kinkirk family? Oh - and Kevin, the whole line about Savannah never dating, and you picking out her boyfriends was disturbing.



    RUTHIE: This storyline didn't do too much for me either, except I suppose it was appropriate. I wasn't wild about Mackenzie's attempt at crying, nor was I wild about Thomas Dekker's lousy acting. I can't stand the character of Vincent. What a jerk. I mean, Ruthie was also a jerk to just disobey her mom like that, but Vincent...dude, you don't break up with a girl then just stick around afterwards. Wow. I can't stand him anymore, and I couldn't stand him even more after this episode. Except I don't see how Ruthie ran straight to Kevin; she didn't even know he was going to be there in the first place. Also, I really hated Ruthie's outfit. Not that it's relevant in any way. The end with Ruthie and Annie was very touching.



    OTHERS: The twins weren't too bad in this episode, but still not good enough for my liking.



    Now I still have some problems with this episode though. First of all - Simon. The guy was scared to death of having an STD and then what...we just forget about him? After waiting so long, I remember how big of a disappointment this was, after watching this episode. No one even mentioned him for crying out loud. Nice continuity, writers.



    The second issue: Mary and Carlos. So now Mary is supposed to not be happy about leaving Carlos and Charlie? Well I'm really confused because of the way the season finale turned out, but just focusing on this episode, I think Ben's a creep and I have NO idea why Mary called him instead of her own family. She better not end up with Ben, or I seriously will stop watching this show.



    Finally - Martin and Mac. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost 100% positive that both (or at least Mac) confessed some kind of feeling towards Ruthie, and now we are back to nothing? No Martin? No Mac? Where was Tyler Hoechlin and Kyle Searles in this episode? Did they not have time to film it? Or was this "family" episode meant not to include them? I'm very confused by this, since there was a big cliffhanger and I waited so long to see what would happen, and what do you know? Ruthie is still with Vincent. Very disappointing.



    So this episode gets a 7. While I liked Lucy for once, and even Annie (amazing!), I hated the Kinkirks role in this episode; I never enjoy seeing Ben pay a visit to the Camden family; and this episode seemed very slow to me. It was nice to have Melissa Gilbert and Louise Fletcher, but their lines were not the best. A little too slow for my liking. Although the whole episode about honoring thy mother, the scene with Annie and Ruthie was very touching, and the end was great. Except that rude glance after Ben mentioned Mary. I hated that. So this episode was just a filler, in my opinion. Nothing exciting, nothing new, but certainly nothing bad for once.



    QUOTE: "To mothers and daughters everywhere - even Mary" (Ben)



    NOTES AND TIDBITS:

    - Why wasn't Tyler Hoechlin in this episode? I mean, sure Martin's not "technically" family, but still...



    - I really enjoyed Lucy in this episode. Could we possibly get her to stay like this for a little while?



    - Must we continue to hear about an invisible Mary? I enjoy the storylines, but the fact is Jessica Biel will not be back. Let's not focus on it.



    - I loved the theme of this episode, even if it wasn't the best.moreless
  • Mothers Know Best

    7.9
    As season nine winds down to it's conclusion, we get, as so often with the final episodes leading up to the season's finale, a number of episodes that just seem to be there to fill up time until we get to the finale. This episode is not too bad, but it's nothing great either. It's just kind of...there. Regardless of what people may think of the show, or that they are too sappy and sentimental, or that they are just not good anymore, you do have to at least give them credit for doing episodes like this. It's an episode that, as if you haven't yet figured it out by the title, is all about mothers. Mothers are front and center throughout this entire episode. So, as I said, it is nice that the show puts the spotlight on things, or people, that need to have the spotlight shined on. It doesn't get any better than 'mommy'. They deserve to have an episode with them as the focal point. They are the ones that bring us into the world, take care of us, and just make everything pretty much run in your life and in the home. As Annie is, mothers can be the cook, the doctor, the psychiatrist, the friend, and so on. Regardless of how good(or not so good)this episode is, or your views on the show, they do do certain things justice by doing episodes like this. The end product may not always be spectacular, but the thought is there. And it's the thought that counts, isn't it?. Anyways, what was going on this time?...



    Eric's big client mission this week was an interesting one. Needless to say, it's about mothers. Or a mother and a daughter. A woman named Marie(Melissa Gilbert) comes to Eric asking if he could help her with her mother, Mrs. Wagner(Lousie Fletcher). It seems that this woman thinks that her mother needs special care. She thinks she is getting older and things are just harder for her now that she is older and that she is alone. The daughter thinks that maybe her mother should be put into some kind of home. Taken out of her house and put into somewhere else. Eric agrees to help and he soon meets the woman's mother. When he does meet the woman's mother, Eric is somewhat surprised. The mother he meets is not the person he was expecting. This lady is nowhere near old enough to be put into a home, and this lady is very much capable of taking care of herself and living on her own. He sees that there is no reason for this woman to change. So, what's the problem?. As Eric digs deeper into this new case, he(and we)learn that it may not be the mother who has the problem. It's the daughter. Why would this woman think(and want)her mother to give up her livelihood and go into a place where she can be properly taken care of when she is perfectly able to do it herself?. Everything is stemming from what's wrong with the daughter's life. She has hit some tough times here lately, and the problems are coming mostly from her side. It does hit a bumpy patch when the mother is hospitalized from all the stress her daughter has been causing her. This was actually a nice side storyline. Eric has had a number of clients and crusades he goes on, and this one, while far from being the best, was nice and decently done. Academy Award winner Louise Fletcher was fine in her role, and I can't get over the fact that she would be playing someone who someone thought needed to be in a home!. It's also kind of funny that 7th Heaven has now beaten "Little House On The Prairie" as longest running family drama, and that show's Melissa Gilbert appears as the daughter. It was kind of like a passing of the torch kind of thing. Everything is pretty much tied up in a neat bow at the end(this is 7th Heaven after all)and it was a nice little story.



    Ruthie the schemer. Ruthie is still smitten with Vincent(although I don't know why), and she wants to go out with him. Annie says no because she is planning a big birthday dinner for what would of been her mother Jenny's 75th birthday. Ruthie makes Lucy take her out shopping only so she can see Vincent. Kinda sounds like the good old days with Lucy and Mary don't it?. Ruthie is caught, of course, and it leads to a heart to heart and a talk between Annie and Lucy. The young daughter and the sneaking and scheming and boys thing is pretty much this show's stock in trade. It's been going on in some form or another since the show first began. It's wore out it's welcome a long time ago. Believe me. Every season, there is a new boyfriend, or a new girlfriend, and there is just more of this. You can skip episodes and not miss out on anything. The show has had problems casting good actors or actresses for these boyfriend/girlfriend roles, and an even bigger problem of making them good characters. They are always bad. There are exceptions of course. I never liked Vincent to begin with, and the season finale only proves what a loser he is.



    The third storyline going on is pretty simple and kind of overdramatic. Ben(he's back!)shows up and is ready to see his new niece, Savannah. It should be a cool, fun, happy time. But with this show, something is wrong. Kevin tells Ben that he wanted his mother to be the first of his family to see the new baby. Kevin wanted his mother to be the first?. Okay. This is something that the show does that's just odd. They make up these little oddities and they just never seem normal. Your own brother is there to see his new baby niece. Uh, no, you can't. I wanted someone else to see her first. It's just strange to me that the show, and the characters, have these quirks and "rules". It shouldn't matter. I've been through six nieces of my own already, and there has never been anything like that before. This is your family. It shouldn't matter who sees who first and they shouldn't be numbered. So and so is first, and you are second. God help me if you are first!!. Lol. It's just strange to me. This is an exciting moment, don't ruin it with your ridiculous ways!.



    A running storyline through the whole episode is that Annie is preparing a big meal for her mother Jenny's 75th birthday. Or what would of been her birthday. This is the only part of the episode I really liked. I have always liked Annie's mother, and I thought it was a sweet and nostalgic touch to do this. Alice Hirson who played Jenny has appeared on the show a few times after her character died, and it would of been nice if she had appeared in this one. Maybe a flashback, or Annie has a "special visit" from her. Something. It would of made it even better.



    In the end, "Honor Thy Mother" is a pretty averag episode. Nothing special or memorable. It's a pretty serviceable episode, but not much after it's over.moreless
Bo Derek

Bo Derek

Mrs. Kinkirk

Guest Star

Louise Fletcher

Louise Fletcher

Mrs. Wagner

Guest Star

Melissa Gilbert

Melissa Gilbert

Marie Wagner

Guest Star

Geoff Stults

Geoff Stults

Ben Kinkirk

Recurring Role

Thomas Dekker

Thomas Dekker

Vincent

Recurring Role

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  • TRIVIA (2)

    • Goof: When Ruthie comes running out of the pool hall how did she know Kevin & Ben were there? She came running out & ran straight to Kevin. She may be too upset to be surprised but they didn't know she was there, so they weren't expecting her.

    • Whenever Annie and the twins were baking a cake, she already put the icing on the cake. When they went back to show the cake, the icing was gone.

  • QUOTES (4)

    • Kevin to Savannah: "I think I've told you this many times. But you're never dating. Never. When you get old enough to get married, your mother and i will pick out a nice boy for you."

      Lucy to Kevin: "One of us has to stay with Savannah."

      Kevin to Lucy: "Oh, right."

    • Ruthie to Vincent: (crying to Vincent) "How did you expect me to react?"

      Vincent: (to Ruthie) "Well, I didn't think you would be so emotional."

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    • Ruthie to Vincent: (crying to Vincent) "How did you expect me to react?"

      Vincent: (to Ruthie) "Well, I didn't think you would be so emotional."

    • Ruthie to Vincernt:(crying) "Go away. Your the worse boyfriend ever. I hate you."

      Kevin to Vincent: "What the heck is going on?"

      Ruthie to Kevin: (crying) "Can we go home? Please can we go home."

      Ben to Vincent: "If you did anything to hurt Ruthie I'd..."

      Ruthie to Vincent: (crying) "Just go away. Go away."

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