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7th Heaven Season 9 Episode 7

Regret to Inform

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AIRED: 10/25/04

When Kevin purposely leads Venus (guest-star Martha Plimpton), a young woman to believe that Martin is a rookie police officer, she quickly expresses interest in him and invites him over to her house and spend time togther. Martin's friend Mac (guest-star Kyle Searles) encourages him to pursue Venus. Martin has a hard time revealing the truth about himself after he learns that Venus' father is serving in the Middle East. Meanwhile, Eric and Annie are worried that Martin is getting in over his head with Venus and enlist Kevin to fix things, which only leads to rumors around the police station that Kevin is cheating on Lucy. Mac also jumps in by spreading rumors about Martin at school when Venus shows up at the high school for work. Lastly, Ben (guest-star Geoff Stults) continues to hide his relationship with Lucy's new baby doctor, even though they spend a weekend together.moreless

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I loved this episode, it was sad though.

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By VGFreak8, Jul 17, 2007

Kevin jokes around and pretends that Martin and Mac are cops. He tells Venus, a woman who loves cops. She takes an interest to Martin and Martin drives her home. They get to talking and they find out that both their fathers are marines. Eric and Annie are worried when Martin doesn't come home until very late. Martin wants to get emmancipated. The guys at the station start a rumor that Kevin is cheating on Lucy with Venus. Ben and Dr. Pearson break up and Dr. Pearson gets back together with her ex-husband, who happens to be Kevin and Lucy's doctor. Venus finds out that her father has died and Martin comforts her.

This was a great episode! I did think that Martin went overboard, trying to move out. I felt sorry for Ben. That's a terrible way to get dumped. It was sad when Venus found out about her father and when Lucy heard the rumor about Kevin. This episode gets a 10!moreless
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Well I did not like it as much 'cause Lucy (Luce) thought that Kevin (Kev) was cheating on her. But it's the guys at work that started the whole thing. and Not Kev. Kevin was just trying to find Martin and it went Ugly.moreless

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By Leann15, Jun 11, 2006

Well I did not like it as much 'cause Lucy (Luce) thought that Kevin (Kev) was cheating on her. But it's the guys at work that started the whole thing. and Not Kev. Kevin was just trying to find Martin and it went Ugly.

Well I did not like it as much 'cause Lucy (Luce) thought that Kevin (Kev) was cheating on her. But it's the guys at work that started the whole thing. and Not Kev. Kevin was just trying to find Martin and it went Ugly.

Well I did not like it as much 'cause Lucy (Luce) thought that Kevin (Kev) was cheating on her. But it's the guys at work that started the whole thing. and Not Kev. Kevin was just trying to find Martin and it went Ugly.

Well I did not like it as much 'cause Lucy (Luce) thought that Kevin (Kev) was cheating on her. But it's the guys at work that started the whole thing. and Not Kev. Kevin was just trying to find Martin and it went Ugly.

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Not bad filler episode.

9.2

By GaryJ123, Jul 07, 2005

When season 9 first debuted, it just came out of the gate racing. It had seemed to pick itself out of the season 7 and 8 slump(although both seasons had some good episodes), and was back on firmer Camden ground. But then it hit a soft patch where it seemed that maybe the show wasn't completely devoid of doing boring, uneventful episodes that mainly centered around non Camdens. This episode feels in ways like a left over filler episode from season 8. Sure there is a bit of Lucy and Kevin here, but the bulk of the episode centered around Martin and Venus, and the increasingly annoying and grating Mac only hampers the episode even more. So, what happened?. Well, nothing much....

Let's start off with the lighter storylines first, shall we?. The whole Ben/doctor storyline didn't exactly hook anyone or have them chomping at the bit to see what happens. Without his involvement with Mary in season six, what real purpose does Ben have with being on the show?. Since Mary left, they are incorporating him into the show and he just doesn't fit. He spent a good bulk of season 7 just hanging around wandering aimlessly, and got an occasional bit here and there. Hey, kind of like Martin!. Anyways, he had no character, and without Mary, there was nothing to him. Why do the writers continue to bring around and keep characters when there is no point of them being there and have no intention of anything in the future?. We could be talking about Martin again too. Anyways, this whole situation was awkward right from the start, and didn't fit, and didn't service the episode in any way, shape, or form. The only good thing to say is that Geoff Stults is a far better and more appealing actor than his brother. He's still nothing great, but he has a more relaxed persona, and doesn't act like he is going to pop a blood vessel with every move he makes or every line he says like George. Enough said.

Lucy and Kevin had a storyline going with rumors circling that Kevin is cheating on Lucy with the Venus character(played by Martha Plimpton). It was kinda poorly handled with how the rumor just came and started out of nowhere and how everyone got into it. I mean, Lucy should know better by now that Kevin wouldn't cheat, and if he did for some reason, would he cheat on her with someone like Venus?. Lucy is adorable and very attractive, while Venus, well, isn't. She seems like a nice person and one you could get along with, but come on!. Would you feel the need to go to Venus when you got Lucy back at home waiting for you?. And even after all this time, with a marriage and now a baby on the way, that Lucy still can act so insecure and jealous like this as if she is 14 and thinking Mary is after Jimmy Moon?!. Let's grow Lucy up a little more writers. I thought this was an unnecessary addition to the episode and just felt tacked on and last minute.

The bulk of the episode is pretty much centered around Martin. When seeing Kevin at the pool hall where Venus is, she is led on to believe that Martin is a rookie cop. Martin knows this is wrong and intends to tell her, but doesn't once he learns her father, like his, is in Iraq. This whole scenario was kind of ridiculous and underwritten. Even tho Venus comes out in the end and says that she suspected that Martin wasn't a rookie cop, I think anyone would of thought of that at first glance. Martin looks like he's just starting to shave. This was a chance for the writers to do something with Martin. Let's face it, the character of Martin Brewer was never developed. He was pretty one dimensional, with no solid core. He was just there. This was the chance to give him something to do and to develop and build the character since most of the episode was his. Instead, there isn't much change. He is able to connect with someone who is in the same league as him. Having a father fighting the war in Iraq. But it never goes anywhere from there. They talk and relate. It never goes any deeper or shed any new light. We've seen Martin with the Iraq storyline before, and there really isn't a whole lot different here. The only difference is that there is a second person. The writers have continued to deny Martin any real character development, and isn't showing any signs of it at this point either. There was some kind of interesting conflict in this episode with Martin and Eric and Annie. He acts out over their involvement, and showed some spark of furthering the character, but alas, they never kept up with it. This isn't to say that there wasn't some good moments to this storyline. The part where Martin and Venus talk was a nice moment, but that's really about it. And there were some things said about Martha Plimpton's appearance that were a little uncalled for. Yes, she definitley is not the young thing she is supposed to be. I mean, she was a teen in "The Goonies" in 1985 and in "Parenthood" in 1989!. She got some flak for not being much in the looks department. But does she need to be?. Does every female that one one of the younger guys on the show(or any of them, really)come into contact with have to be another blonde barbie straight off of the assembly line?. I don't think so.

In the end, "Regret To Inform" was an instantly forgettable hour mostly centered around a poorly developed character that a lot of people don't like or have warmed up to yet, and that brought season 9, which started out strong, to a screeching halt. For this week anyways.

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A whole hour with Martin and an actress that is definitley not 22?. Are you as bored as I am?....

6.8

By Barrybgb, Jul 02, 2005

When season 9 first debuted, it just came out of the gate racing. It had seemed to pick itself out of the season 7 and 8 slump(although both seasons had some good episodes), and was back on firmer Camden ground. But then it hit a soft patch where it seemed that maybe the show wasn't completely devoid of doing boring, uneventful episodes that mainly centered around non Camdens. This episode feels in ways like a left over filler episode from season 8. Sure there is a bit of Lucy and Kevin here, but the bulk of the episode centered around Martin and Venus, and the increasingly annoying and grating Mac only hampers the episode even more. So, what happened?. Well, nothing much....

Let's start off with the lighter storylines first, shall we?. The whole Ben/doctor storyline didn't exactly hook anyone or have them chomping at the bit to see what happens. Without his involvement with Mary in season six, what real purpose does Ben have with being on the show?. Since Mary left, they are incorporating him into the show and he just doesn't fit. He spent a good bulk of season 7 just hanging around wandering aimlessly, and got an occasional bit here and there. Hey, kind of like Martin!. Anyways, he had no character, and without Mary, there was nothing to him. Why do the writers continue to bring around and keep characters when there is no point of them being there and have no intention of anything in the future?. We could be talking about Martin again too. Anyways, this whole situation was awkward right from the start, and didn't fit, and didn't service the episode in any way, shape, or form. The only good thing to say is that Geoff Stults is a far better and more appealing actor than his brother. He's still nothing great, but he has a more relaxed persona, and doesn't act like he is going to pop a blood vessel with every move he makes or every line he says like George. Enough said.

Lucy and Kevin had a storyline going with rumors circling that Kevin is cheating on Lucy with the Venus character(played by Martha Plimpton). It was kinda poorly handled with how the rumor just came and started out of nowhere and how everyone got into it. I mean, Lucy should know better by now that Kevin wouldn't cheat, and if he did for some reason, would he cheat on her with someone like Venus?. Lucy is adorable and very attractive, while Venus, well, isn't. She seems like a nice person and one you could get along with, but come on!. Would you feel the need to go to Venus when you got Lucy back at home waiting for you?. And even after all this time, with a marriage and now a baby on the way, that Lucy still can act so insecure and jealous like this as if she is 14 and thinking Mary is after Jimmy Moon?!. Let's grow Lucy up a little more writers. I thought this was an unnecessary addition to the episode and just felt tacked on and last minute.

The bulk of the episode is pretty much centered around Martin. When seeing Kevin at the pool hall where Venus is, she is led on to believe that Martin is a rookie cop. Martin knows this is wrong and intends to tell her, but doesn't once he learns her father, like his, is in Iraq. This whole scenario was kind of ridiculous and underwritten. Even tho Venus comes out in the end and says that she suspected that Martin wasn't a rookie cop, I think anyone would of thought of that at first glance. Martin looks like he's just starting to shave. This was a chance for the writers to do something with Martin. Let's face it, the character of Martin Brewer was never developed. He was pretty one dimensional, with no solid core. He was just there. This was the chance to give him something to do and to develop and build the character since most of the episode was his. Instead, there isn't much change. He is able to connect with someone who is in the same league as him. Having a father fighting the war in Iraq. But it never goes anywhere from there. They talk and relate. It never goes any deeper or shed any new light. We've seen Martin with the Iraq storyline before, and there really isn't a whole lot different here. The only difference is that there is a second person. The writers have continued to deny Martin any real character development, and isn't showing any signs of it at this point either. There was some kind of interesting conflict in this episode with Martin and Eric and Annie. He acts out over their involvement, and showed some spark of furthering the character, but alas, they never kept up with it. This isn't to say that there wasn't some good moments to this storyline. The part where Martin and Venus talk was a nice moment, but that's really about it. And there were some things said about Martha Plimpton's appearance that were a little uncalled for. Yes, she definitley is not the young thing she is supposed to be. I mean, she was a teen in "The Goonies" in 1985 and in "Parenthood" in 1989!. She got some flak for not being much in the looks department. But does she need to be?. Does every female that one one of the younger guys on the show(or any of them, really)come into contact with have to be another blonde barbie straight off of the assembly line?. I don't think so.

In the end, "Regret To Inform" was an instantly forgettable hour mostly centered around a poorly developed character that a lot of people don't like or have warmed up to yet, and that brought season 9, which started out strong, to a screeching halt. For this week anyways.moreless
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This was a very good episode. It was very well-written and definately defined all the traits of Martin\'s character...

9.0

By Ruthin4Eva, Jul 01, 2005

Let me just start off by saying that this was one of my favorite episodes of season 9. After watching it again, I loved it even more. The reason why I defined \"Regret to Inform\" as a \"character Development\" episode was because it was mainly centered around the character of Martin Brewer. Let me first start off with the smaller storylines:

Ben & his \"doctor\": I\'m glad that this storyline was not a long, stretched out, waste of time. I\'m happy that they eneded things very soon and we didn\'t have to watch it anymore. It was pointless. Enough said.

Lucy & Keven: I kind of thought that this \"cheating\" storyline came out of no where. It only appeared towards the end of the episode and I didn\'t quite follow what was happening. Anyway, wasn\'t Lucy actually in the room when Kevin was making all those phone calls asking for Venus\'s number? Wouldn\'t she have guessed that that was how those cheating rumors had started? And why would Kevin set Martin up with Venus in the first place if Venus was his lover? This storyline confused me, but it did leave a nice little scene at the end between Lucy and Kevin.

Martin & Venus: This was the main storyline of the episode and practically took up the whole hour. I won\'t comment on the appearance of the actress who played Venus right now (just look at the nitpicks at the bottom of the review), but I will say that her acting was very good. I thought Tyler Hoechlin\'s acting was also very good in this episode. Good for you! Anyway, back to the actual storyline...This episode showed us all the demensions of Martin\'s character. We saw him as a regular teenage boy (you know what I mean), we saw him angry, we heard him let out all of his feelings, we heard him talk as if he was an adult, and we saw him help a god friend. I loved the scenes with Martin and Eric and Annie. I thought we really learned a lot about Martin\'s character and his feelings. We have seen Martin angry before, but we have never really heard him express himself like an adult.

Also, I must say that I thought it was so adorable when Martin started to cry and called Eric after he saw the soldiers walking up to Venus\'s door. It showed how Martin may act like an adult at times and may say that he doesn\'t think of the Camdens as family, but this showed that Martin does truly care for the Camdens and that when he is in need of help or advice, he calls to them. I thought it was so sweet. I also thought it was sweet how he acted with Venus. If I experienced a hardship like that I would love to have someone\'s shoulder to cry on and I think Martin was being a great friend by comforting her.

Over all, this was a great episode!

Definately a 9/10

NITPICKS:

*I\'m sorry, but I don\'t think that the actress who played Venus looked 22.

*Did anyone notice the shoes Martin was wearing as he left the house? They looked like bowling shoes!

*I must admit that the little scene with the twins was very cute. They\'re growing on me...slowly.moreless
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Stephen Collins	Reverend Eric Camden
Catherine Hicks	Annie Camden
Beverley Mitchell	Lucy Camden-Kinkirk
Mackenzie Rosman	Ruthie Camden
Nikolas Brino	David Camden
Lorenzo Brino	Sam Camden

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Kenneth Schmidt	Mark	Guest Star
Martha Plimpton	Venus	Guest Star
Grant Garrison	Lief	Guest Star
Kyle Searles	Mac	Recurring Role
Geoff Stults	Ben Kinkirk	Recurring Role
Christopher Michael	Captain Michaels	Recurring Role

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- Martin's cell phone number is 555-0192.
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- Nitpick: Though Martin did not leave the Camden household, had he really done so, it seems strange how he only had one small bag packed with like two shirts...But just a nitpick.
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- Nitpick: When Ben was calling Kevin at the police station, it looked as though he kept redialing the number. Couldn't he have just hit redial (which would have made a different sound)?
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- Lucy: I want you to tell me that the lies at the police station weren't true. I want you tell me that you will never leave me or your daughter, and I want you to tell me that you will love me forever.
  Kevin: The rumors at the police aren't true. I will never leave you or our are daughter and I will love you forever.
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- Venus: The last time I answered the door something terrible happened.
  Venus: Why him? Why did he have to die?
  Martin: He died with honor, the way all Marines do, fighting for what they believe in.
  Venus: I miss him already.
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- Ben: He'd never cheat on you, I don't care what anyone says, don't believe him.
  Lucy: You did.
  Ben: Yeah, well I'm not that smart so I had to sit with the information for a little while before I realized it wasn't true.
  Lucy: I swear, you guys gossip more than old ladies.
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- Capt. Michaels: Sooner or later he needs to tell Lucy the truth.
  Ben: Yeah, she's a stickler for that.
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- Martin: 555-0921...My cell phone in case it's getting late and you want me to come home.
  Eric: We won't be waiting up for you tonight, your friend needs you, stay for as long as she wants you to or needs you to.
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- Lucy: Hey, back from the camping trip? I thought you were suppose to get back last night?
  Ben: Oh, one of the guys wanted to stay one more night so we did.
  lucy: Oh yea, Dr. Pearson called to say she had a wonderful time camping this weekend. I don't like it when a Kinkirk lies to me because if you can lie to me it means that Kevin can lie to me and that's not good.
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- Martin: You know what else is against the law? Inpersonating a police officer, but thanks to you, I'm guilty of that now.
  Kevin: That was a joke. I thought the cop thing and the age thing would come out naturally in the evening.
  Martin: Well, you figured wrong.
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- On its original airing this episode scored 6.8 million viewers for the WB.
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- David Gallagher (Simon Camden) does not appear in this episode.
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- Barry Watson (Matt Camden) does not appear in this episode.
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- Jessica Biel (Mary Camden) does not appear in this episode.
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