7th Heaven

Season 9 Episode 13

The Fine Art of Parenting

Aired Sunday 8:00 PM Jan 31, 2005 on The CW

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  • I loved it!

    Lucy doesn't mind when visitors come to see Savannah. Kevin and Annie don't like that so many people are coming to see her. Martin's study date, Zoe, falls asleep on his couch at the garage apartment. Ruthie sees her walking out in the same clothes she had on the night before. Ruthie blackmails Martin by getting him to ask a boy, Vincent, if he would like to go out with her. Eric finds out about Zoe. Eric and Kevin want to move out while Annie and Lucy want to live there for a while. It turns out that Vincent has a problem and thinks that his parents asked Reverend Camden to ask Ruthie to ask Martin if he would want to go out with Ruthie, just so he could see him. Vincent doesn't want to go to church. Vincent and Eric talk and Eric talks to Vincent's parents. Ruthie and Vincent kiss. Sam and David help Savannah open presents.

    This was a great episode! It was good seeing Mrs. Beeker and Lou again! I really don't like Zoe. The lies she told and how she wanted to really sleep with Martin. I liked Martin in this episode and it was funny when he picked up Ruthie. Vincent is pretty cool too! This episode gets a 10!
  • Overall, this was an enjoyable episode and much better than last week's "Very Special" episode where Lucy delivered in the elevator despite my complaints on Lucy and Annie's behavior, it was still enjoyable and written pretty good.

    Well, it's now about halfway through the season and are now on the thirteenth episode of 7th Heaven this season. After last weeks non-suspenseful and very disappointing episode (at least for me) things do look better and on the up-and-up with this good episode as Lucy and Kevin have brought Savannah to Eric and Annie's home for the time being and we get back to our usual Camden episodes of misunderstandings and manipulating. We've missed you since last November. Let's break it down...

    Lucy and Kevin: As Kevin and Lucy are now back from the hospital and now settling in the Camden home, instead of the garage apartment with new daughter Savannah in tow, the new family encounters quite a bit of problems with the new (and hopefully) temporary arrangement. A very happy and free Lucy is showing off baby Savannah to anyone who'll see her, even with the chargin of Annie and Kevin, while Kevin is very paranoid over being alone with the baby and his wife; particularly afraid that his daughter will stop breathing while he's sleeping. Even though I have yet to experience the "art of parenting" myself, I could see why he'd be paranoid on his daughter not breathing and watching her. Many parents probably feel the same, especially when you hear cases of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). It's rather shocking and disturbing of babies dying all of the sudden in their sleep as they stop breathing because of SIDS. Not only that, but Kevin too knew that Lucy wasn't making right choices in this episode by letting so many people see Savannah when they know she needs to kept away from germs as much as possible, and later on he argues with her about this. Not only that, but with Lucy letting her parents do too much of the work that she should be doing and taking advantage of them. Of course they do make up in time, with Kevin apologizes for snapping at her and Lucy realizing she's letting her parents do too much, and compromising over still moving into their new home in a few months when she is ready.

    In the end though, I still don't get why Lucy and Kevin are still living at the Camdens. Lucy once again admits that she needs time---in her case a few months before she can leave home with the baby and Kevin. Seriously, if Lucy is able to get married, have a job as an associate pastor and being the one to get pregnant in the first place---she is sure now capable of moving out as soon as possible. I'm sure this is part of the writers ploy to keep the couple still close to the family and for show purposes, but it's no longer believable even by this shows standards. It's starting to look pathetic and too co-dependent on Lucy and Kevin's part, especially when they already have a nice and beautiful home waiting for them not too far away. It doesn't make sense, and unfortunately it was great lowpoint in this episode. They need to go! Please writers!

    Eric and Annie: As new parents Kevin and Lucy are adjusting to the idea of now being parents, grandparents Eric and Annie take on more of the slack. Now, as much as I've complained about Annie's behavior in recent episodes over her closeness with her children, particularly her daughter Lucy on staying in the house with them even though she is a grown woman with a family, she did have reason to be concerned and over protective this time, when Lucy wasn't---and should've been in regards to Savannah. A very free and happy Lucy is letting anyone see Savannah who drops by at this the house and Annie doesn't think it's a good idea since Savannah is a new baby and having many people over can bring a lot of germs---which is the last thing a newborn infant needs as their immune system is not fully ready yet. For Annie to be concerned with that was fine, but as we find out later on, she's still hooked on the idea of Kevin, Lucy and baby staying for as long as they can. Why?

    Eric on the other wants them to get out and move into their new home as soon as possible (Who can blame him?) while Kevin is too uncomfortable with the arrangement they have and is scared that Savannah will stop breathing, so he too wants to leave the house. Thank goodness, Eric, has a different opinion on them staying in the home and, in fact, wants them to leave as soon as possible. He does his best to be there as a father and grandfather, but knows it's time for them to go. He doesn't push it so much to the chargin of Annie and not upsetting her and daughter, but he sure is right in this case. Seriously, Annie and Lucy need to let go already. It makes them look bad than they should.

    It was also a delight to see Mrs. Beeker (Edie McClurg) again who hasn't appeared since season 5 (i.e. Gossip). I wonder why she wasn't at the baby shower last week, but I can understand actually, if you remember the previous one when Sam and David were about to be born when she practically ransacked their house! Ah, the memories! Anyway, after all these years there's still that hidden tension between Annie and Mrs. Beeker that has yet to fully resolve of church lady vs. minister's wife. I love it! They always play those scenes well. It was also great to see Lou (Alan Fudge) there for that little bit in this episode, even if was only was a second to see Savannah.

    Ruthie and Vincent: As the rest of the Camden's mainly focus on new baby Savannah in the house, Ruthie has her eye on a boy at school that she's too scared to go up to, Vincent (Thomas Dekker). She finally has the perfect opportunity to get someone else, in this case it is Martin after she finds him in a conflicting position of seeing Zoe leave his apartment and manipulating him to help her in nailing Vincent. As so, he does help her in getting Vincent to notice her, but Vincent thinks it's for another reason as his parents wanted him to meet her father Rev. Camden anyway for something else. He thinks he's being set up with Ruthie as a ploy from his parents and Rev. Camden, but he's finally cleared up of that when he finally talks to Eric later on when he's invited over at the house after he calls Rev. Camden. It turns out Vincent's parents want him to go to church for some reason, but he doesn't want to go. In fact Vincent's parents don't even go to church, but want him to go. At this point Eric tries to salvage this by having a somewhat strange conversation with Vincent about church being good---then somehow leading to sex. Eric sure does have a fascination over teenagers and sex and manages to bring it up a lot no matter what the original topic may be. Very strange. Anyway, the conversation between them is very humorous, yet odd and intriguing on the comic book references he gives Vincent to in regards to church being similar and also "graduating" to reality. All in all, very good scenes.

    As we finally do meet Vincent's parents when they finally do talk to Eric we find out why in the most subtle way. Apparently they want him to go to church because they don't know what to do with him, and church might be the answer to keep him preoccupied. Apparently, for most of Vincent's life his grandparents took care of him as they lived in their house with them, but since they retired to Hawaii, they don't know how to parent know without their help. Obviously this was a ploy by the writers to tie in Lucy and Kevin's storyline of staying in the house with the family, which couldn't be anymore obvious to the viewer saying "yeah, we get it." Next time writers, try to be a little more subtle in the storytelling and crossroading, it was coming a mile away. And yet, I like Vincent. He was a really nice drawn out character with a great personality so far, especially when talking to Eric. His caricature parents they could do without though, but Vincent was very good. It's pretty obvious we'll be seeing him more in the coming weeks and I'm actually looking forward to it. Every boyfriend that Ruthie has I seem to like more and more. Vincent's been already in one episode and he is already better than Peter, Jake and Harry.

    Martin and Zoe: As previously stated above Martin (Tyler Hoechlin) is in a rare position in this episode as he group studies with a girl, Zoe (Katie Cassidy) in his new garage apartment. But unfortunately they accidently fall asleep, with both on different couches and nothing happening at all between them. This then leads Ruthie later on to bust them when she's leaving later on in the morning. Not only is Ruthie doing some manipulating, but Zoe is as well towards Martin. Later on she tries to tell Martin that she wants to tell everyone in school that they slept together so she'll be more popular among her friends, and that he has to agree to it or she'll make up a different story to her parents than what she said earlier to them and that'll put Martin in a lot of heat.

    There is one thing that needs to be asked though; what is with the young ladies of Glen Oak? Are they all misguided little tramps who lie about things to get a guy to do their bidding (i.e. Georgia, Cheryl and Roxanne). Does Brenda Hampton hate young women? Because she sure has done a good job over the years in writing a lot of them like they're manipulating tramps. Anyway, Martin doesn't take her crap in lying about what happened the other night as she goes off, leaving him a bad position. In fact this storyline is yet unresolved in the end on whether she told people or not, maybe we'll find out in the coming weeks.

    As already stated, Ruthie takes advantage of this as she keeps her mouth shut to get her way with Martin into doing her bidding and so does Martin even though they do realize others are catching up to what is really go on. It still has to be said that Martin is one rare of a kind teenager. He's the only single guy his age that I'm sure would ever object to a pretty thing like Zoe telling her friends that her and Martin had sex. Yes, that includes myself, I'de be more than willing in letting her brag, but that's me.

    Overall, this was an enjoyable episode and much better than last week's "Very Special" episode where Lucy delivered in the elevator despite my complaints on Lucy and Annie's behavior, it was still enjoyable and written pretty good. I'm still trying to discard my disappointment from the last episode, but now it's a little easier after a watching a more satisfying episode, and yet again, Simon and Matt were not in it. That's another plus when looking at how great another episode was without them, and yet they appeared in last week's dreck. Oh, well. Until next week as Ruthie and Vincent apparently start their "first date." See ya!

    Grade: **8 out of 10**

    Rants and Bits:
    *It's sort of sad that Sam and David at 5-6 years old can't do things on their own still, especially unwrapping an ice cream wrapper before you eat it on it!

    *What was with the scene when Martin picked Ruthie up and carried her on his shoulder when he didn't want her to answer the door? That came out of nowhere, and yet she didn't speak when he had done it until so long after she responded. I bet she got a little high off it, eh, Ruthie?
  • This episode was very good, with interesting and believable storylines. Plus we got to see Kevin embarrassed by people seeing him in his boxers. That never happens!

    I really enjoyed "The Fine Art of Parenting" for several reasons. I found every storyline enjoyable and I found every storyline actually believable. This episode wasn't a classic, but was definately worth watching.

    Lucy, Annie & Savannah~ Awww! Let me just say that I think Savannah is adorable. She does look a tiny bit big for her age, but I know 7th Heaven time is probably not real time, so I'll forgive and forget. Obviosly, Lucy is very excited in this episode and really wants to show off her baby and her new parenting skills. Throughtout the whole episode random people (people we know, but don't really know) start coming and knocking on the Camden House, bearing gifts and begging to catch a glimpse of the new addition to the Kinkirk/Camden family. May I add that all these people were uninvited, and should have called to make sure that they were welcome to see the very young, highly susceptible infant. I do agree with Annie that Lucy shouldn't have allowed ALL those people to see the baby so early on, but it was Lucy's decision as a parent, so it was her responsibility and right to show off Savannah. I do think Lucy will be a good mother, though, and I can't wait to watch her parenting skills as Savannah grows older.

    Kevin & Eric~ Poor Kevin. He was constantly embarrassed throughout this whole episode. His boxers were revealed to practically the whole Glenoak community (as well as millions of viewers all over the world). It was all kind of amusing. I also felt bad for him when he started to feel like he was losing his "role" as the father, but I don't think he was being rational. I mean, Lucy was the one who went through the whole pregnancy (and bedrest) and all young mothers are excited when they have their first baby, and alot of times the mothers get more attention than the fathers (even though they are equal in the whole parent thing). Kevin has nothing to worry about. After th initial "I'm a mother" phase, Lucy will be making him babysit all the time. I can't wait to watch that.

    Eric has to lighten up. I understand that he doesn't want Lucy and Kevin to become too dependent on his and Annie's help, but Lucy just had the baby like a week ago. First-time mothers always need a little help when they first have the baby, and the parents of the mother and/or father are usually the first people they go to. I think that Eric and Annie should ease up a bit later on, but right now Lucy and Kevin need all the help they can get.

    *Martin & Zoe~ This was a somewhat original storyline that I really liked. Although I am a little annoyed that every episode they are either taking about Martin's father or wondering about Martin's virginity, I do think this was a good and realistic storyline for two kids in highschool. I did wonder why Zoe's parents didn't question Zoe a little more after she was gone all night without calling. Zoe fell asleep on Martin's couch so she could tell everybody at their highschool that they had sex. I do find a little bt pathetic, but atleast she's not just going out and finding some random guy to REALLY have sex with. I don't like Zoe that much so I won't stick up for her any farther. I must say that Martin dealt with this problem maturely (with the exception of not telling the Mr. and Mrs. Camden).

    *Ruthie, Vincent & Martin~ Yes! We see Ruthie is back to her annoying spying! I always wondered how she manages to find out EVERY single secret and mishap that goes on within the Camden walls. It must be a gift she was naturally born with. Anyway, Ruthie sees Zoe leave in the morning with the same clothes on that she had seen Zoe wear the night before. Immediately Ruthie assumes that Zoe stayed over night in Martin's apartment (yes) and that Martin and her had sex (no). She then blackmails Martin with her knowledge and makes him ask Vincent out for Ruthie (Ruthie wants to date him not Martin). I found this all quite amusing as well since Martin actually took the bait and asked Vincent if he would go out with Ruthie. Of course, it all blew up in Ruthie's face. Somehow, though, she did end up getting kissed in the end of the episode. I don't understand how Vincent and Ruthie went from hardly knowing each other to kissing in the Camden's backyard. It all felt sudden. I was also suprised that Eric didn't seem upset about that but he practically gave him self 3rd degree burns from spilling hot coffe on himself earier in the season when Ruthie said she just wanted to go out with Harry (Aaron Carter). I don't get it.

    This was a very good episode and deserves a 9/10

  • Lucy and baby are back home, but has Lucy learned anything?.

    Last week we were treated to the birth(finally!)of Savannah Kinkirk, baby daughter to Lucy and Kevin in "Paper Or Plastic?", an episode I liked really well. But I soon got the feeling that maybe the run of strong episodes season nine had to offer in it's first half, was starting to come to an end. This wasn't too bad of an episode, but it gave the impression that the season was going to go into a rut. An all too familiar rut that the show, in the previous two seasons or so, always seemed to find itself in. The show seems to have it's best and strongest episodes in the first half of the season, and the second half finds itself stuffed with the mediocre ones just filling up space to get to the big finale. Season nine seems to be following in the same tradition. This episode is one of only two high points in the last half of season nine. The other being the strong "Tangled Web We Weaved". I remember the wonderful episode, "It Happened One Night", way back in season three. The episode that dealt with Annie coming home with the twins after delivering them in "In Praise Of Women". While this episode was a bit better than average, we weren't treated to as good an episode as IHON. But what did happen?. Read on...

    Lucy and baby Savannah are coming home from the hospital. But as of now, home is now back in the Camden household. They have moved into the house, and into Sam and David's room(originally Simon and Ruthie's), and the twins have moved into the infamous "Hello Kitty" room, previously occupied by Martin, who now takes residence in Lucy and Kevin's garage apartment. Still with me?. Good. Some argue that the couple should be in their own home. Yes, they should, but since Kevin must of just gotten that big, beautiful home, it's probably not ready to be moved into. And if you have seen all of season nine, it never will be. But the decision to move into the house pretty much makes sense. They want to be closer to everyone in case there is an emergency with the baby, and close enough for some help. But Annie is concerned with Lucy on things she is doing in her newfound parental role. Lucy is excited with Savannah, and will show her off to anyone who wants to see. This is not exactly unthinkable. Who wouldn't be excited and proud of their newborn baby and want to show them off?. But Lucy seems to be more thrilled and excited with the idea of her being a mother and having a baby, instead of knowing and acting upon issues that she should of known already. Annie is concerned that Lucy is exposing the baby to many germs with all of the people she is letting into the house to see Savannah. This is just common knowledge when having a baby. You keep it out of the public for it's first few weeks so as not to be exposed to anything. This makes it clear that Lucy still has a lot of learning and growing up to do. There are responsibilities that she doesn't seem to be too quick with yet. At least it gave the writers an excuse to show Lou again. My god man, where've you been?!.

    It's not just Lucy who are having issues with the baby and the way things are now. Kevin had his own predicament with Savannah when he thought she stopped breathing. This is not out of the ordinary for new parents to be so extremely cautious and worried about things. A newborn baby is an extraordinary thing, and it comes with all new thoughts and worries. When it is your first child, and you are newly christened parents, you are sort of at a loss. You have never taken care of a baby before, and it's just all new. To new parents, a cough or a sneeze would be cause for alarm. And then there is Eric and Annie who have thoughts on their involvement with the baby. They feel that maybe with the Kinkirk's living back in the main house, that they are helping out too much. Doing too much of certain things that Lucy and Kevin should be doing themselves. How will they ever learn or know the responsibility when they are always there for them to rely on?. Eric and Annie are right in their thoughts. That's not to say that they can't help out, but they should let Kevin and Lucy learn for themselves.

    Martin is now seeing a new girl named Zoe(played by Katie Cassidy, daughter of "The Partridge Family" star, David Cassidy). Zoe comes over to Martin's new bachelor pad to study. She stays just late enough to fall asleep on his couch and stay overnight, so that she can tell everyone at school the next day that she stayed the night with Martin. Martin tries to set things right(and of course Mr. Chastity Belt would never do such a thing). Ruthie finds out about this and tries to blackmail Martin into getting her a date with a guy at school named Vincent(Thomas Dekker). I don't know why, but all of the boyfriends and girlfriends that the Camden kids get on this show(with the exception of Sarah and Carlos), are usually no good. No good in character or acting. Vincent starts out promisingly enough, and Thomas Dekker seems to be a bit better than most of the actors who come in at one time or another as a potential love interest. But new characters don't come without some problems. Vincent's parents, we learn, won't be winning any Parent Of The Year award any time soon. They have not really raised Vincent, and they don't seem to have clue one on how to go about raising a teenage boy. Of course, Eric steps in for some counceling. It appears that Vincent and Ruthie will be becoming a couple, and I had high hopes that maybe this boyfriend wil be better than the others. Those high hopes didn't last too long.

    All in all, this episode wasn't too bad at all. It's by no means a classic or an instant eye catcher, but it was pleasant, decently written, and had a 7th-y/Camden-y feel to it. It is only one of two decent moments in the last half of season nine.