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Where do I start from here? American Dad is one of the few current shows that actually manages to give me a laugh. The characters are wild.
Stan, who seems to learn his life lessons a little too late. Roger the alien, who only seems to care for himself and gets the last laugh. Klaus, who may be confined to his goldfish bowl but wants to be included. Steve and Hailey, your typical kids who argue. Steve's a huge nerd and Hailey is a college girl who knows how to push her dad's buttons. And Francine, the housewife who seems to want things right and has to help.
While sometimes the humor is a hit or miss, it seems typical from the creator of Family Guy. Though unlike Family Guy, there's always a bit of a lesson to take from it.
Especially for poor Stan, who is just doing things as he's been taught. Such as gay parents are not right. I hope to see more of this in the future, and hope it lives a nice long life. The jokes may be a bit bad sometimes, and other times it seems that the writers try too hard, but there's always a punchline, whether you miss it or see it.
"American Dad!" is the popular hit animated series on FOX. Created by the people who brought you "Family Guy"
"American Dad!" is another show about a dysfunctional family. But this time, it's much more original. "American Dad!"s characters are Stan Smith, the CIA father who cares about his family. He is married to Francine who is a nagging wife and also cares about her family. Hayley is the smart daughter and is ultra liberal. Steve is a young son of the family and is the nerd of the family. Roger is the alien who is often drunk and very sarcastic. And finally Klaus is the pet fish and is very in love with Francine.
"American Dad!" has potential and is funny. And unlike "Family Guy" it doesn't steal from 'The Simpsons". And better than "Family Guy" in my opinion. I wished that "American Dad" also didn't try hard to show emotion. But, I do give it a recommendation.
There's been a lot of anticipation for American Dad, the new animated series from Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane. In 1999, Family Guy earned a following large enough to make it one of television's hottest properties but not large enough to sustain the ratings Fox wanted, resulting in its cancellation. However, the record-setting sales of the show's DVD sets and its excellent ratings as part of Cartoon Network's Adult Swim lineup led Fox to return it to the network's midseason Sunday night lineup. Since all that, everyone's been wondering what else MacFarlane had up his sleeve. The answer, unfortunately, is not much.
Stan Smith (voiced by MacFarlane) is a true-blue American hero, a clean-cut, square-jawed, supremely earnest saluter of Old Glory. He's also an important cog in the War on Terror, a decorated CIA operative responsible for keeping the U.S. safe and freedom on the march. On the home front, he's somewhat less successful. His daughter Hayley (Seth's daughter Rachael) is a crunchy granola community college lefty who looks for every opportunity to challenge Dad. He has trouble relating to his son Steve (Scott Grimes), a pasty pre-pubescent loser with a Shazam t-shirt and no luck with the ladies. And his wife Francine (Wendy Schaal) is mostly supportive, but lacks enthusiasm about brandishing her machetes when Stan suspects a late-night attack by Osama bin Laden (Stan screams, "If I die, you must protect the clan!").
Rounding out the family are Klaus (Dee Bradley Baker), a talking goldfish with the mind of an East German alpine skier (the CIA switched his brain during the fictional 1986 Winter Olympics to ensure American victory) and the hots for Francine; and Roger (MacFarlane again), an alien that saved Stan's life at Area 51 and whose necessary house arrest has acclimated him to Earth's simpler pleasures, like cigarettes, daytime television, and Chocodiles.
If this sounds familiar, you've been watching your Family Guy DVDs. MacFarlane has recycled all of his previous show's personalities, touching up each with a slight accent, a simple inversion, or a specific political agenda. Follow me here: Klaus is Stewie gone Oedipal, trying to elbow Stan out of the picture so he can nail Francine; Roger is Brian with a Paul Lynde accent; Steve, sadly, combines Meg and Chris into a frumpy oddball whom nobody really gets or likes; Francine plays the same ancillary role as Lois; and Stan is a jacked-up action junkie/goofball dad who can't relate to his kids and screws up huge -- a non-paralyzed, über-Republican mash-up of Peter and Quahog cop Joe Swanson right down to the oversized cleft chin). The only character without a clear Family Guy analog is Hayley, who is cooler, smarter, more politically aware, and more self-assured any of MacFarlane's previous characters... which pretty much makes her an 18-year-old Lisa Simpson.
In an interview with TVShowsonDVD.com, MacFarlane acknowledges these similarities, calling American Dad "sort of a Family Guy meets All in the Family kind of show" (the All in the Family nod presumably comes in Stan's conservative patriarchal attitudes, although he's nowhere near as dynamic as Carroll O'Connor's Archie Bunker) and describing Klaus and Roger as "oddball characters in the vein of Brian and Stewie." The major division in MacFarlane's mind comes in the programs' tones and subject matters. "Where Family Guy is a very pop culture-oriented show," he says, "American Dad is going to be a bit more politically satirical, socially and culturally satirical."
Unfortunately, when MacFarlane plumbs the depths of the U.S. political system for American Dad, all he manages are weak shots at conservative caricatures. Steve asks his parents to buy him a dog to improve his chances of scoring a date with head cheerleader Lisa Silver (voiced by Aerobic Striptease guru Carmen Electra); Stan returns with a decrepit 19-year-old hound because "this dog was alive for the Reagan Administration; it knows how things are supposed to be." The dog (named Thor, which I must admit, I found pretty funny) doesn't help Steve with the ladies, so Stan offers to help sabotage the student council elections and make Steve class president, saying, "I work for the CIA. Rigging elections is my bread and butter." And when Steve tells his father that Francine had offered contradictory advice, Stan smiles and says, "Steve, I'm going to tell you something, and I know this from years of experience: women are never right." These lines are good for a chuckle, but don't match Family Guy's best moments, partly because they're not as "universal" as that show's offensives, and partly because MacFarlane never really rears back and lets it rip with this "political comedy."
American Dad's most successful jokes come out of the Family Guy playbook in the form of that show's famous non-sequiturs. The best of these comes in a phone conversation between President Bush and God: "Uh, hey, George, it's God... Hey, listen, big favor: is there any way that you could, uh, from now on, sort of downplay our relationship a little more in your public addresses? I mean, to give you an example, like when you make comments like, 'God wanted me to be President,' you know, that would be an example of something to just kind of keep to yourself." There are also a couple of fantastic throwaway lines, like when a high school student leaving the bathroom tells his friend, "Man, your stream is so powerful." Whether you like bathroom humor or not, you can't deny that MacFarlane's great at it; unfortunately, in the pilot episode, he marginalizes it in deference to political comedy, and the drop-off in his show's quality is severe.
In a recent interview with The Onion A.V. Club, MacFarlane discusses the specific problem he faces in President Bush's second term: the ethical dilemma of an artist who wishes the election had gone the other way, but realizes that the outcome means he's getting four more years of free material. "There are people on staff who have made that point, that the upside to a second Bush term is that it makes American Dad work better," MacFarlane says. "[But] to me, the price is too high. I would gladly give up the comedy to have a President Kerry. But you work with what you have." Viewed in that context, American Dad is MacFarlane's personal protest, and for using whatever soapbox he has to speak his mind, he should be commended. I just wish he had done it with more unique characters, stronger story construction, and a better class of dialogue. But he didn't, causing American Dad's post-Super Bowl debut to feel like a lame halftime show designed to keep us busy until the main event on 1 May. If he doesn't come up with better material by then, America might respond to his series the way it does to most halftime shows: by turning it off.
I started watching American Dad when I first got the first volume/season set on DVD back in Christmas 2006 and when I got it, didn't think it was that good surprisingly but then I watched a couple of more episodes and was then hooked on it and then I watched even more episodes when the second volume came out(I don't watch it on TV, as I you know like to watch these things on DVD because it makes it seem more fun in my opinion) and I thought it was even more hilarous than it was before and now I'm a huge fan of this show, my favourite has to be Roger since he is the funniest in the whole show like when he's watching certain TV shows(eg Cagney and Lacey and the Simple Life), it always seems hilarous for some reason and I hope they keep this show on because it just gets even funnier every episode.
Well this show isn't exactly a good show but tiny tiny bits of it can make me chuckle. This show is very inapropriat and I am surprised they even let it go on public TV. Even so it is on at like 8:oo PM what about the 5 year olds that are learning swear words?! Then again 5 year olds shouldn't be up so late. Over all rating: 2.5. Yet there are some people who enjoy these shows. I stand by my rating and it isn't so bad that it is worse than South Park. And thanks to anyone who agrees with me.
American Dad is Seth Macfarlane's second animated TV series after Family Guy, it debuted in 2005. It revolves around Stan Smith; a staunch Republican working for the CIA and is a talented combatant despite being overweight. His family consists of trophy wife Francine, hippy daughter Hayley, impressionable son Steve and pets; effeminate alien Roger and German fish Klaus. Although comparisons are bound to be made between this show and Family Guy; in a sense they're similar with the zany family which share the same traits in both TV shows and many of the jokes are the same political, racist, cultural and sick ones but deep down American Dad is quite unlike the first show.
American Dad is a lot more politically charged than the former with a majority of the episodes revolving around it and the characters are a lot more complex in American Dad and have a developed structure that characters in Family Guy can't boast.
As far as humour they're pretty much the same but American Dad goes out of their way not to have flashbacks. The plots for episodes are often less wittier in American Dad and they fall flat on some occasions but on the whole it has very good writing.
The show has the same look as Family Guy; bright, larger than life animation with surreal effects and whatnot but this show contains a lot more violence and action than Family Guy and requires more rapid - fire transition.
The audio is somewhat wackier than Family Guy and calls for really over - the - top vocal performances; Seth Macfarlane voices Stan and Roger and although he doesn't deviate from his vocal work in Family Guy, he is pretty consistent. His sister Rachel as well as Scott Grimes and Wendy Schaal make up the rest of the family and never disappoint. The show's have an equally catchy theme song although American Dad channels The Simpsons by having something different in each opening. As a father; Stan Smith is superior to Peter Griffin. He's more rational, optimistic and aware than the latter although Stan does get fewer emotional moments with his family but when it comes to obnoxiousness and naivety; the two are identical. American Dad is a fresh and very entertaining watch that is recommended to any fan of Family Guy. At this point it hasn't progressed beyond cult status but sooner or later it'll be right up there on primetime.
Good morning usa and all the other countries wake up becouse the show of a true american is here. its about a guy named stan who is the greatest american well thats what he thinks in this show him and his hole family have wierd adventures every single episode. Weather its in a computer game or in the city. Theres only one bad thing about this show and that is its a bit racest but i dont really care about dat becouse its just as funny as family guy.
I have a fealing im gona have a wonderfull day. From Brodie
Created by the creator of 'Family Guy', another great classic cartoon, Seth MacFarlane, American Dad features the life of a CIA agent whose duty is to protect America from terrorism, and his family who are hardly prime candidates for a typical American family. Instead of a dog this family has an alien and a german goldfish, the daughter is a rebel who is leftist in her political views and is prone to disagree with her fathers ideas, the mother is fairly normal but becomes involved in many antics, and the son is fairly intelligent and seems to be headed for success. Unlike Family Guy whose humour is derived as much from Peter's memory gags as Stewies antics, this shows humour is mostly based on the fathers constant alertness for terrorist activities, and the whole 'protecting America' thing- as well as that the America he is protecting- whilst seemingly oblivious to him- is not as worthy of protection as he likes to think. The fish and the alien are also major stars in the shows humour. Very entertaining show. For those who say it is excactly like Family Guy only worse, i'd argue that the style is somewhat different and that it is still a very entertaining and amusing cartoon.
American Dad is written by the same writers as Family guy so i thought if they made it, it was worth watching and that was when i first saw it on channel 7 in Australia just after family guy had been on.
I watch this show when ever it is on but i don't need to download it as it is not the best show every. i still like the show and rate it pretty high because it is funny and it makes the American family look stupid at some time. eg when Stan send his so to "camp refuge" which is really "Refugee Camp".
On first glance, American Dad looks like a carbon copy of Seth MacFarlane's "other" show Family Guy. The animation is near identical, the lead character Stan Smith's knuckle headed optimism and in-your-face presentation doesn't so much recall Peter Griffin as grab you by the throat and scream in your face and Roger the alien and Klaus the goldfish work in much the same way Stewie and Brian do in the previous show. So far so very familiar, as though MacFarlane dressed up his fourth FG series with different characters when it was initially cancelled so as to stay on the air but stick with it, and American Dad will eventually reveal itself as a superior cartoon to it's predecessor.
Sure, the humour is once again a mixture of insightful witticisms, biting satire and odd bursts into toilet humour but rather than the chaos of Family Guy where the plot seems to revolve round the jokes, here the opposite is true. The flashbacks are almost totally absent and instead each episode features a structure and character development that is normally missing from the first show. Okay some of the episodes fall a bit flat but nevertheless, there are considerably more hits than there are misses and when it's good, it's brilliant. "A Smith In The Hand" for example is in this writer's humble opinion, the funniest thing MacFarlane and his team have ever produced.
What's more, American Dad is considerably more politically-orientated and everything you could conceive about the USA's current state of fear mongering and distrust is put beneath a microscope and parodied mercilessly. Stan Smith is a boorish depiction of all that paranoia rolled into one and some of his outbursts and overreactions are hilarious. Take the scene where he locks up his new Arab neighbours in his back garden for instance in a moment that scarily recalls the nightmarish conditions of Guantanamo bay yet still manages to be side splittingly funny or any of his numerous conceited one-liners ("only women have emotions son, they come from their ovaries").
Only time will tell if American Dad can outlive the shadow of it's far more successful big brother, but like the relationship between Futurama and the Simpsons beforehand, it's often a far funnier and considerably more focused show that deserves a wider audience
I just completely love American Dad on so many levels. Ever since the first episode, I've been a huge fan. It mainly revolves around Stan Smith, who works for the CIA. He and his family have wild adventures each season. Really now, I haven't seen a show like this in years. To me, this compares to the early simpsons and the early family guy. It's got all of the things a funny sitcom should have: humour and a well written script. I'm being honest here, so far there is not one episode in the entire series that i DON'T like. And that's saying a lot! I seriously don't understand the haters. Please if you haven't seen the show, ignore them and give this show a try! I think most of you will be pleasently surprised. As a fan of Seth McFarlane, I have to say that this is his best work.
American Dad is an adult animated series from the creators of Family Guy about a 40 year old man named Stan Smith who works for the CIA, is a family man and supports America(alot), his wife Francine who has a partygirl personality but she has hidden it for the sake of Stan, his son Steve wants to get the girls but he can't(Well, some of the times he's had a girlfriend) due to the fact that they consider him a "geek", his daughter Hayley who is a left wing liberal and dislikes Stan due to what he thinks of certain things, his pet alien and fish named Roger and Klaus-Roger is the alien who does nothing but watch movies, drink martinis(bit like Brian from Family Guy) and sit on the couch, Klaus is the German goldfish who's brain was put into the brain of a goldfish and has a crush on Francine.
When I first watched this show, I thought it wasn't that funny was pretty funny but not funny(I first watched the show on DVD, and that'll explain the next thing I'm about to say) but when I watched a few other episodes I thought it was brilliant, every storyline just made me want to watch the show, All I'm saying is that it has good writers(mostly) and I can't really have a fault with any episode.
When I purchased Volume 2 back in June(I got it on Friday, and it was released May 28th over here) and started watching it, I thought the episodes were better than they were on Volume 1(though the episodes on there were pretty good too) one of my favourite episodes was when Klaus' brain was put into a human body and he tried to impress Francine with it without her knowing it's him and another one of my favourite episodes was when Barry started to become friends with Stan and Barry kept doing awful things and blaming it on Steve.
Roger the Alien is probably one of the most hilarous characters I've seen in a long time, probably funnier than Homer Simpson even! His laziness and references to a few movies just make me laugh, Seth MacFarlane truely is a genius I mean first he came up with the brilliant Family Guy and then with this hilarous show I say keep up the good work, Seth, Long live American Dad.
I've only just started watching this... and let me tell it's great
Stan Smith, who works for the CIA and is constantly on the alert for terrorist activity. Stan will go to extremes to protect his beloved America from harm; as evidenced by the terror-alert color code on his fridge, In addition to Stan's wife and teenage children, the Smith household has two other members. There's Roger, the sarcastic space alien who deeply resents the fact that he's not allowed to leave the house, and therefore, has been reduced to drinking wine and smoking cigarettes, and Klaus, a German-speaking goldfish; the result of a CIA experiment gone seriously wrong. Stan's son is a dorky teenager who tries to be cool. His wife has had a past life of sex and drugs. Stan loves his daughter, but that doesn't necessarily mean he trusts her
"American Dad" is in my opinion the ugly younger brother of "Family Guy."
It's not as smart, it's not as polished, and it suffers from the obvious way it was developed very self-consciously on a mirror image model of MacFarlane's better and more popular cartoon Family Guy.
It does have good moments, and occasional flashes of the same kind of brilliance that marks the other show far more often.
But the premise itself seems flawed - the best episodes are when there's an acknowledgement of the basic underlying criticism of the overblown American way of life.
If you seen the episode where Stan, who had not only never masturbated but considered it truly wicked, injures himself in a particularly sensitive part of the male anatomy on which he has to apply ointment.
It's the ignorance of the Stan character, coupled with his power both in the family and in the world, that should drive the show. Then the other characters could have freer reign against a stable core.
The thing where is not better then Family guy is that this serie has stan as the center of the show. When he is not the center of the show imo the show falls apart. In all the episodes the Characters have not developed themselfs to hold the family.
If you compare that to Family Guy in which Brian, Meg, Stewie, Lois, and Chris have all had episodes and storyline featuring them. The episode in which Stewie and Brian go on the lam, or where Brian goes to Hollywood, or Lois becomes a model, or Chris becomes an artist and the toast of New York... these are all classics.
Despite the fact it's going into its third season, American Dad still doesn't feel like it's found its tone. It feels shaky, and that's the worst thing a comic can do - let you see his insecurity.
Despite all that i will continue to watch the show cause i just like an afternoon with simpsons, Family guy and American dad :D.
Seth MacPharlane has done it again. Hes brainwashed millions of people with just a single show. Well, hes done it to me. Lots of actions for a animated show, many laughs and things you will never understand. Out of all the charaters my favorite is Roger. Hes an alien, he brings the laughs to me and makes the show more interesting. Another great character is Stan. He makes the show more funnier and stupider. Thats what I like about the show. Not as good as Family guy but I can say it is one of my favorites. Seth, keep on making more episodes for American Dad and Family guy.
Seth Macfalane, creator of hit tv show Family Guy creates a another great cartoon American Dad!. The is about a man named Stan Smith who works for the CIA. He is voiced by Seth who voices the star character on Family Guy Peter Griffin. His voice sounds the same as the Doctor on the other show. Another noticable character is his wife Francine Smith. The 2 kids steve and Haley Smith. and an alien named Roger lives with the family. What's good about this show is that there are no cutaway gags like in family Guy. It's gets to be boring but not too annoying. This show sometimes has crossovers with Faimly Guy like in Lois Kills Stewie We see Stan and some other guy about to shot Brian and Stewie. This show is a good show and I hope it doesn't get cancelled.
its just like my other fav cartoon shows the simpsons, famliy guys and futurama but with his own idea abut a dad is the CIA and all the crazy things he does i have to say roger is my favrite character he is an alien that dresses up to try to look human. its sort of like lilo and sicth but a better way and anyway they sure make a lot of fun of polictians i love that too. this show is pretty awesome like it alot hope it stays on for a very very long time! I love it !!!
Following CIA agent Stan Smith, his wife Francine, his two children Hayleigh (a free spirit who always speaks her mind) and Steve (a hopeless geek) and their pet alien called Roger that Steve rescued from CIA headquarters and their strange antics.
Great if you like Family Guy, The Simpsons or Futurama.
So funny it makes my eyes water and my stomach hurt every time I watch it!!
The jokes are great, but there is also hidden jokes that you should watch out for.
Best suited for people that don't need an explanation for everything because I'll admit sometimes it just doesn't make sense - but it is still hilarious!!
Also watch out for famous names during the end credits as loads of celebs lend their vocal talents to this great show - Jeremy Sisto (Six Feet Under), William Fitchner (Prison Break), Ron Livingston (Band Of Brothers) etc.
Recommended to anyone who likes to have a good laugh!!!!!
Family Guy is better than this. Even if you don't like either, you'd have to say Family Guy is the better one. Yes, I know that this is done by the same creator, but what happened with his ideas? Seriously, the family is just like The Griffins with their two kids, the stupid husband, the over protected wife, the two stupid kids, the talking pet, and... and alien. Plus, the jokes go on for too long. Not like the "This is like the time..." like Family Guy has, but if you see it, you'll know what I mean. It's just, not good. I suggest Family Guy. It's better and is actually worth watching.
In the shadow of it's older brother Family Guy this show has always struggled in the ratings. However do not be put off, with very orginal story lines and characters it does become an entertaining show to watch I could even claim its brilliant. The show carrys on Family Guys style in animation and jokes which is good it's funny, witty and can poke fun at anything even itself! Which is what makes this show good. However with it being a continuation of Family Guy you always feel its missing something the sparkle of a show, after watching two or three episodes you tire of it. So this is a good show very entertaining, it's just not anything more that entertaining, nothing more than decent. You watch it, laugh for 20 minutes, then forget you watched it.
Hmm.. not one of my favorite shows, or one of those at which I watch constantly.. it's just a decent one.. with family guy alike lines and jokes. only not that good. I watch the show only when I'm bored or when I don't have anything else to do.. I mean, don't get me wrong, but it's not that original.. itt reminds me of family guy.. and if I want to see family guy I watch family guy and not american dad.. But it's a decent show.. I get a laugh from it.. I'm not watching regulary so I think that's why I can't say more than this..
this show is ok but its a little stupied I think wow this is a major rib-off for family guy I think the creators should stick to family guy and we all know Family guy is alot better than american dad but the show is alright there are some great episode I give this show a 7.5 out of 10 well that's my review bye. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .
Remember a LOOOOONG time ago when Family Guy got cancelled?
Well, Seth moved on to American Dad!, which is some of his best work.
CIA man Stan Smith lives everyday protecting the right of America with his wife, Francine, daughter, Haley, and son, Steve. But, the family has some pets.
Klaus is a German man who's brain got put inside of a goldfish. He's in love with Francine.
And, alien Roger. He's an alcoholic, and is addcited to TV and movies, preferbly game shows and Lifetime.
American Dad! is a great show! Here's how it works.
Take a family who's dad/husband works for the CIA
Add an alcoholic alien.
Add a crazy German fish.
Add all of the humor of Family Guy with extra smart jokes.
American dad is a show created by the very special guy Seth Mcfarlane. American dad took of when Family guy was cancled, and since the return of family guy American dad is the slightly beter show. This is due to that American dad uses more sofisticated jokes. The jokes are all from Politics to sex. The first time you watch American dad it might seams a bit unorigniall, but the show keeps on growin for every episode and every season, you can realy tell that seth mcfarlane puts his soul into this show.
A big question is this, will FOX cancel American dad due to bad rating? (it got a horrible time slot)
American Dad is a show about Stan - a man that is a CIA agent, which he usually takes advantage of it in many situation thorought the show. This show is very similar to Family Guy, with its shock humour and a funny, yet repetetive plot, which is very irritating. He is cold blooded, he thinks he is always right, but at the end of every episode he learns his lesson. Although that minor inconvenience we can say for sure that it is a decent show, that can make us laugh on many occasions. All in all, I give it an 8.
This is a show about an american family , however this one isn't as usual as all american families. It consists of six members - Stan Smith the 'American Dad' he is an CIA agent, he loves George Bush above all and is really too overprotective, Francine Smith an usual desperate housewive, Hayley Smith a teenager hippie, Steve Smith, the nerd son, he allways tries to be cool, but he usually doesn't suceed, Roger the alien, that Stan rescued from area 51, he has a perfect sense of humour and loves wigs and Klaus the german talking fish.iled experiment to extract human's brain into a fish.
American Dad is one of the funniest cartoons i have ever seen.
Some of the things on this show are beyond belife and have had me in tears of laughter like when Rodger and Stan get stoned and go to the 7/11 and are transfixed at the sweet counter with munchies lol and then Rodger tells Stan he feels light so he buys some cat litter to wiegh him down lol only he lets go of it doing a runner from Stan and floats of into the sky lol, along with a hash cake eating mind transfered nazi goldfish the show couldnt get any stranger lol, all in all though the strangesness makes the show and i have enjoyed every single episode and will continue to do so to :)
This is one of those shows that I personally classify as " L m f a o " shows. My " L m f a o " shows are the shows that I personally consider to be Awesome ! Shows like this make me laugh so hard . . . and this is one of them due to the fact that well . . . it makes me " L m f a o . " I seriously consider for those of you to watch shows that i classify as a " L m f a o " show. Thank You!
Im writing reviews on all my " L m f a o " shows first :)
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