Love the fact that Lilah is the hero, all round great performance from Stephanie Romanov and CC (their scene together is wonderful) and some terrific out of character stuff from Wes and Gunn. Fantastically poignant ending.
Why does Angel tell Billy's cousin he's going to kill him? How does he expect to be invited in after that?
Angel; "She thinks I'm melodramatic?"
Jeez, how did they get away with that?
Very hard to watch at times, man's brutality to woman a lot harder to take than demons and vampires. Even though Gavin is evil you don't doubt that he would never dream of attacking Lilah if Billy hadn't infected him.
Inverting the Hollywood cliche;
Lilah kills the villain, bad girl comes good.
In disguise; 8
DB get's his shirt off;
Cheap Angel; 7
Fang Gang in bondage:
Fang gang knocked out: Gunn and Wesley
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3 demons
Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons.
Fang Gang go evil: Gunn and Wes
Alternate Fang Gang:
Characters killed: two women Billy's victims.
Recurring characters killed;
Total number of Angel Investigations:
5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot:
Packing heat; Only Lilah.
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Wes comments on Fred's slinky number. CC and Angel 'getting all sweaty' whilst training as Xander would say. CC thinks Billy is 'kinda cute'.
Wes has the hots for Fred and CC is aware of this. CC comments on using a phallic shaped weapon to threaten Billy. Angel is hurt that CC thinks him melodramatic.
Know the face, different character; 3
Even Angel is shocked when he meets a battered Lilah. She refuses his sympathy however considering what he'd done to her in the past.
Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony
Questions and observations;
The Blims are very obviously supposed to be the Kennedys (of course Stephanie Romanov played Jackie O in the excellent Cuban missile crisis drama '13 Days'). His cousin actually seems ok. What happens to the poor guys who Billy infected and who attacked their women? Hopefully AI/Lilah get them out? Angel tries to spare CC from killing Billy just as he and Gunn will later do with Fred and the Professor.
Marks out of 10; 8/10, good episode, would be 9/10 if it had more arc.
Billy was a superb episode of Angel. I really enjoyed watching this episode because it had a lot of character development and exploration. It was very interesting to see Cordelia inspire Lilah, while Wesley took a detour down the dark side of the road. I think the story of the episode was great and perhaps some viewers could relate to men who act this way in real life (I hope not). There were some good action scenes an ending that leaves viewer feeling for the characters and the experiences they just went through. I can't wait to find out what happens in the next episode!!!!!!!
THE GOOD: Very interesting way to touch upon a societal ill, namely abuse of women. Fantasy shows always are able to do these things so creatively. Wesley and Fred in the hotel.... very well done, and tres The Shining.
THE BAD: This is the first episode where Wesley's feelings for Fred are unmistakebly known. Ever since seeing the last episode, where he and Fred are compared to Romeo and Juliet, I've been looking back at old episodes straning to see where exactly this is, because I always thought there relationship, at least on Fred's end, was kind of sudden... and it is! Fred's first apperance is "Belonging". Wesley sees her picture and is seemingly unimpressed, thius destroying the romantic "I loved you before I even knew you" uttered in "A hole in the world". Her first introducation to Wesley is "There's no place like Pltz Glrb", and for 6 episodes he seems rather unimpressed with her. Now, in "Billy" he shows interest. There's no positive reaffirmation until she kisses him when she's dating Gunn, and then even that lingers in nothingness for a long time. Hardly Romeo and Juliet when they really only get to spend 1 episode together, both in love.
Billy is one of the most unique episodes in the Buffyverse and a definite highlight of the entire series. It's nerve-wracking and scary and raises the bar of Season 3.
The main plot is absolutely standout and one of the most original concepts of the entire show, which is incredible as the 'verse is entering it's 8th season. Right from the start, we know we're in for something special when Gavin assaults Lilah in her office and this scene sets the tone of the episode. Billy is a great villain; he's absolute evil yet so polite at the same time. He doesn't even kill people, as he points out, he just likes to watch women getting beaten and murdered. I was glad he was only in one episode though as there wasn't much to be explored after this episode.
Also, we finally felt sorry for Lilah! To see the uber-bitca so scared and beaten was awful, especially cuz I have a soft spot for Lilah. She looks out for Number 1 all the time and as seen isn't necessarily pure evil, as seen here when she kills Billy and in Carpe Noctem when she helps Angel with the building code violations. Stephanie Romanov is so good at her and has definitely grown over the seasons- she's a joy to watch. Cordy and Lilah's scene in Lilah's apartment was classic and made me remember just why I love Cordy so much- she's hilarious at times but also such a strong woman and it was nice to see a glimpse of the old her and her remark at Lilah "I was you" made you realize how much she'd changed from being a "vicious b!tch" to a mature, selfless young woman and it actually miss Cordelia, as I know after S3, the real her doesn't appear until S5. However, the real highlight of this episode was the hotel scenes between Wesley and Fred. God, they were terrifying. Alexis Denisof was just outstanding in these scenes- he had such an amazing presence and was so frightening and every time I watch it, it still gives me goosebumps to watch him chasing Fred with an axe. This could have looked silly but it just looked creepy, and is one of the highlights of the series. The music propelled it even further, with the mix of the Cordelia/Connor music from S4 and the Darla melody from S2, going from a slow, eerie feel to a pulse-pounding feel when the chase scenes first appeared. Fred showed her inner strength here, a massive step up from the timid person she was just a few episodes ago. Also, the beginning of Fresley!
Billy was a sublime episode and a series highlight and should definitely not be missed under any circumstances.
This is an amazing episode of Angel. I love the creepy type of evil that Billy presents and every time he mentions that he just bringing out what already exists within a person. Watching Gavin beat Lilah was really good in this episode after Lilah went through all of this trouble to protect this boy who hates women.
Wesley and Fred were both amazing in this episode. His crush on her is very cute, but by the end he can't even look at her because of what he has done. When he is infected and goes after Fred, all of his lines are so scary and as he chases her with his axe I was so scared and he was just so amazing as evil. Then at the end when Fred comes to the door and he is just sitting there it is so sad and moving at the same time.
Then Lilah and Cordy both go after this man and when Lilah shoots him it just shows how strong she is.
By didn't they make more like this one? I loved it! I mean, this wasn't my favorite season, but this is one of my favorite episodes. It has adventure, it works on the Wes/Fred love story, and it is clever. It was nice to finally see more of the hotel, not just the hallways and lobby. I liked that Fred moved from room to room to show that they did have the freedom to do so. Amy and Alexis both have amazing acting performances, which helps even more with the emotional ride with Wesley. It's hard to see him so bend over this whole thing, but it just foreshadows how dark his days to come are going to be. Ok, maybe it's a subtle foreshadow, but it was brillant and it still counts.
Billy-A wave of unexplained and extreme violence against women is traced back to Billy, the young man that Angel was forced to free from a demonic prison a few weeks earlier. Billy's merest touch can cause an otherwise good man to become violently misogynistic, and the results can be deadly. The crew rushes to prevent another brutal attack, unaware that Wesley has already been infected -- and he's alone in the hotel with Fred.
One of the darkest and creepiest episodes with a very inventive villian! Angel said he would deal with the consequences after freeing that mysterious captive from that hell dimension and the affects are more frightening then he imagined. Billy is very disturbing character and his subtle mannerism as he unleashes carnage around him is just surreal. His power that brings out the primodial evil in men is very original. Cordelia was a stand out this hour with her take control attitude, I epsecially loved her scene with abused Lilah, the dialogue was hilarious turning very dramatic with Cordelia's words to Lilah being so strong and one every woman shouldn't take lightly. The scenes are very nerve-wracking, like the chaotic teaser with Gavin beating the crap out of Lilah, not to mention the Shining-esqe scenes with Wesley attacking Fred. The whole cast really gets to shine in this episode, especailly Alexis Denisof who gives a truly scary performance as the psychotic turned Wesley. It's shocking to see such a dark side of him (which we will see more of next season and beyond). Also, the lines he delievered were just unbelieveable shocking:
Wesley: "What do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes...nothing you haven't told her twice."
J. August also gets to show off his psycho killer acting skills which was good for his small part in ti all. Fred was a great little soldier and her plan to knock Wesley out just goes to show to mess with the brainy chick. Also, the confrontation scene with Cordelia, Angel and Billy was great, with a cool fight scene and a shocking moment where Lilah kills the bastard for good. The ending is also heartbreaking with more brilliant acting from Alexis as you feel bad for Wesley as Fred tried to show his actions were not because he's evil. All and All, one of my favorite episodes with some dark storytelling, characters and top notch performances from the main cast.
We get re-acquainted with our old friend Billy (boy who had his own private box in hell) and we find out more about him...things we didnt want to know. Seems Billy can infect men with hatred and rage by his touch alone, and he gets off on it because he can sit back and watch the results. He is *supposed* to be confined at home and not out on the streets causing trouble, but he finds a way to get out. This was a great episode. Kudos to Amy Acker and Alexis Denisof for the scenes they had together. Wes as a woman beater was just....scary! I also liked the "The Shining" feel the episode had when Wes was chasing Fred through the hotel.
Alexis and Amy gave great performances in this episode. You really feel almost terrified of Alexis at some points, his performance as an abusive SOB is so powerful sometimes it's hard to watch especially considering how much they played up Fred's already vulnerable and very innocent side. This is a great episode.
one of the best epoisodes of the show and great for the women! women are better than men by far!
the episode got the guy from that vision thing back who touches men and makes them hate women and kill them. the three main women were brilliant ofcourse cordy but she is always brilliant also lilah who got attacked but takes her revenge and fred who is a dorky dumb girl but she kicked gunn and wesley in their ass. the episode was amazing i can not believe how good it is
One of my favorites of this great season. It's even better than That Vision thing. kind of like part 2, all the characters are greatly written and it has something dark. and soo good. definitely one of the most powerful episodes of Angel.
My lord, this episode is soo amazing, I love That Visio Thing but this one is even better. all the characters were soo cool, Cordy, Fred, Billy, Wesley, Lilah, Angel and Gunn. though there was lack of Gunn. it's just amazing. I have no words for this episode. it's even scary. dark. you just have to love all the characters in this episode. you just HAVE to.
cut to the basement where Cordy and Angel are training. Angel is more training her to defend herself but not to kill. then he learns it to her and she can remember easily cause she was a cheerleader. cut to Wolfram & Heart. Lilah goes to her office where Gavin is with the boy Billy. she was worried and his family come there and take him with them. Lilah is a little upset with Gavin. and she wants him to leave but suddenly he starts to have a big mouth to her and then hits her and tries to kill her. cut to Billy leaving the office with a big smile.
the credits start
cut to Wesley's house. everyone's invited and Gunn and Angel are playing a game. Cordy noticed that Wes likes Fred and she says that maybe they are just meant for each other and next time he has to ask Fred alone. she tells him and then has a vision. after she's better she tells them that the murder happened a week ago and they don't get why she gets to know it now. cut to later in the office. they have the files and they still don't get why they have it now but Angel does. he sees on a picture that Billy was there before the murder happened. Cordy still doesn't now where they are talking about. cut to a while later. Angel told Cordy and she feels responsible but Angel says she isn't and that he's would save her again. he's not responsible either but he knows who is.
cut to Angel going over to Lilah. he sees what Billy did to her and she says that he can't ever touch Billy cause he's family of someone really important and she's shaking and tells him to say away from her client. cut to Angel, Wes and Gun arriving to Billy's place. only Angel can get in and he smashes Billy's window and he can just enter the house but then the police come but they are after Billy. he touches the male officer and leaves something red on his hand and they take him with them and leave Angel alone in the house.
cut to Billy in the car with two cops. the female cop isn't listening to the male and then he starts to hit her and the car crashes. cut to the office. they are talking about Billy going to jail but it doesn't do him anything cause the only thing he needs is his lawyer to get him out but Angel wants to go and kill him but Fred said that the police car never arrived so he's not there. cut to Wes, Gunn and Angel going to the crime place. they took the female cop to the hospital. Angel says that Billy's not human and Wes grabs some of Billy's blood to investigate while Angel goes away to find Billy.
cut to Cordy grabbing some stuff and she's gonna leave. Fred sees it but Cordy goes anyway. then comes Wesley and he wants Fred to assist him. he has the blood samples. cut to Cordy going to Lilah. she goes inside and wants Lilah to help her kill Billy. she tells that Angel went over and Lilah says that it's slowly with some men. it only works with men and that she hopes Angel isn't feeling testy cause she has seen his dark side. Cordy says she really hasn't. she needs to find Billy. she says that no woman with the name vicious bitch deservers to put up with that and that she owes it cause of what she did and Cordy felt helpless. she needs to know where is Billy going.
cut to Angel arriving to a place. an accident happened and Angel forces a man to tell him exactly what happened. cut to a party. Billy goes over to his cousin Dylan and he wants to touch some guys but Dylan tells him not to. cut to Wes looking at the blood. Fred says that they can change just by even touching. and then Wes asks about Cordy and Fred says she thinks Cordy went out and Wes gets upset because she knows Cordy went out. he says that if she lies again they are gonna have a problem.
cut to Fred wanting to call Cordy but he says he put it behind him. he says they need to change some stuff because her outfits she needs to put others on. she tries to go but he beats her down. she tries to escapes but closes the door and pushes her to the starts and she runs away while he grabs a sword. cut to Angel coming to the party and Dylan lets him in. he says what are the rules in the family to not let Billy touch you. and he tells that Cordy came over there and he forces him to tell where Billy went and he says to a place cause he's gonne leave and hopes he stays away.
cut to Wes following Fred. he goes into a room where she's hidden under a bed and he says that it goes back to eve. she's under a bed and he takes it off and grabs her and kisses her but then she cuts him and kicks him in his balls and runs away. cut to Billy in the airport. Cordy finds him and he thinks she's here to whine but she electrocute his balls and she says she's here to send him back. cut to Fred running from Wes and she trips when she stands up Gunn holds her and they go into a room. cut to Cordy and she is going to kill Billy but Angel stops her. he says not to do it but she says he won't hurt her and then he touches Angel's face and he says he won't hurt her at all.
cut to them inside. Wes is outside trying to get in and Gunn says he touched the blood as well and starts to feel the same and Fred is trapped with him. cut back but Angel doesn't hit Cordy but he hits Billy cause he has no power over him. cut back and Gunn becomes evil too and she has a chair leg and knocks him out with it but Wes brakes the door then. cut back and they fight and Billy gets extra strong and he fights Angel. and Cordy can't shoot but then someone shoots Billy to death. it's Lilah with a gun and then she leaves again.
cut back and Wes comes in the room and says that Fred likes to hide in small places. then cut to Fred in the place and she says he's right but he forgot she also likes to built things and hits him and he falls knock out into a hole. cut to Cordy and Angel training in the basement again. he says he didn't become evil because he had already used all his evilness and Cordy says she's starting to get used to be creeped out and comforted at the same time. cut to Wesley, Fred knocks on the door and he's very sorry but Fred says that he's a good man and he would never kill her and wants to see him back at the office and then when Wes closes the door he cries and she hears him crying and then leaves.
Best episode quotes:
Angel: Just trust me.
Cordelia: I do.
Angel: Don't stiffen up.
Cordelia: Yeah, you either.
Angel: Alright. A good defense is about moving the line of attack. When the bad guy comes at you, you want to step off the line like this creating a new one. Every time you do, your opponent will be forced to adjust. Always make the other guy work.
Cordelia: Okay. Move the line. Then what?
Angel: Then - just keep moving the line. You'll be able to keep an attacker busy until... - You know.
Cordelia: What? Until he dies of old age or until you swoop in to save me? Angel, I didn't ask you to train me so I could stave. I already know how to stave. Now I need to learn how to fight!
Angel: You don't think that I would?
Cordelia: Would what?
Angel: Save you.
Cordelia: Men-folk not always around to protect the women-folk, you know? - Besides, what if it turned out you were the guy I had to fight? Could happen.
Angel: Okay. When you put an adversary down, you wanna make sure he doesn't get up again. So, like I showed you... Force the other guy to counter and he'll open himself up something like this. We'll go half-speed until...
Cordelia: No need, I got it. Three years of Varsity Cheer Squad, I only ever had to be shown a move once.
Angel: You know, Cordelia, handling a lethal weapon is a little different from shaking a pom-pom.
Cordelia: Ready! O-kay!
Angel: Easy - Ha, ha - Go team.
Gavin: Lilah. - I was just keeping young Billy here company.
Lilah: Thanks awfully, Gavin. I'll take it from here. Billy, your family has been worried sick. Where have you been?
Billy: Went for a walk.
Lilah: A walk. For three days?
Gavin: The boy was feeling cooped up.
Lilah: Gavin, why don't you go - close an escrow or something? You're not supposed to be out on your own. You remember what happened the last time, don't you? You don't wanna end up in that awful place again, do you?
Congressman Blim: Well, of course he doesn't. - No one wants that.
Congressman Blim: I trust you managed to stay out of trouble this time, Billy?
Billy: No trouble.
Congressman Blim: Lets go home. Well, this is the second time you've returned our nephew safely to us. Thank you.
Gavin: Our pleasure.
Lilah: Our pleasure in the sense that he had nothing to do with it.
Gavin: Nice boy.
Lilah: Yeah, Billy? He's great. Had his own private room in hell. Family connections. Oh - by the way - get out.
Gavin: I wasn't finished.
Lilah: No. You really were. To make myself clear - you go sniffing around one of my clients again, I think we're gonna have a problem.
Gavin: You think? Who told you, you could think? You know, why don't you try listening once in a while instead of constantly flapping that fat mouth of yours?
Lilah: You weren't exactly captain of the debate team, were you, Gavin?
Gunn: Dead! So dead! So very, very dead. Just how dead are you, huh?
Angel: I'm tired of being the dead one.
Wesley: I was thinking, perhaps I'd enter into a similar training arrangement with our Fred.
Cordelia: Oh, hey, if you think she can help you fight, why not? I'm kidding. - Wesley, if you wanna get to know Fred better, maybe the next time you have her over for an intimate dinner for two, you won't ask the rest of us to come along.
Wesley: Ah, I don't... I mean... Was I that obvious?
Gunn: Yes! Ha, ha!
Cordelia: I don't think anybody else noticed.
Wesley: She is a rather extraordinary young woman. - Still, the last thing any of us should be doing is - coupling - with each other, I mean. Office romances, even under the most normal circumstances...
Cordelia: We don't live in normal circumstances. - I mean, what are the odds of any of us actually finding someone out there who can deal with the kind of stuff we have to deal with? I don't know. Maybe we are meant...
Wesley: For each other?
Cordelia: Actually I was gonna say 'to be alone.' But what the heck - Wesley, if you like her, tell her. Just go right up to her and hug her into little pieces.
Angel: How many convenience stores we got on the Westside?
Fred: Well, even if you just include Santa Monica, Beverly Hills and Malibu only, the combined populations is something like a hundred thirty thousand people spread over more than thirty square miles, and given that...
Gunn: A lot.
Fred: I was - getting there.
Cordelia: You're sure this is him? This is the guy?
Angel: You pull someone from a hell dimension, you tend to remember their face. Yeah. - That's him.
Cordelia: Well, then - now we know why the Powers made me experience that woman's death. - She died because of me.
Cordelia: Yes! Angel, if he's somehow responsible - then so am I.
Angel: You're not the one who broke him out and put him back on the streets. I did that.
Cordelia: For me. You did it to save me.
Angel: And I'd do it again.
Angel: Hey. - Hey, whatever's happening now, you're not responsible for this - and neither am I. - But I know who is.
Lilah: That's a very dramatic entrance - except for the part where you can't enter.
Angel: You're a little jumpy there, Lilah.
Lilah: It's been a long day at the office.
Angel: Then you know that your boy is on the loose. You know what he's doing.
Lilah: It's been brought to my attention.
Angel: God. Are you...?
Lilah: I'm fine. You should see the other guy.
Angel: I plan to.
Lilah: Billy never touched me, friend.
Angel: I know. He has some power. He makes people...
Lilah: Billy never touched me, and you can't touch him. Nobody can. Billy as in Blim? As in congressman Nathan Blim's nephew? That family is the closest thing this country has to royalty. They'd own half the eastern seaboard even if they weren't clients of ours. The law won't go near him.
Angel: I'm not the law.
Lilah: This isn't some three horned Gurnarbeast you can just chop into meatloaf!
Angel: Why you're protecting him after what he did?
Lilah: I'm sorry, but this deep chivalric concern coming from the only man I know who definitely wants to kill me, is a bit much on a day like this.
Angel: Your hands are shaking.
Lilah: Stay away from my client.
Angel: Why doesn't it surprise me that I can just walk right in here without an invitation.
Billy: Well, as far as I'm concerned you have a standing invitation.
Angel: You're not a right guy, Billy. You're not quite human either, are you?
Billy: Not quite. More than you.
Angel: You like to hurt women, do you, Billy? That make you feel like a man?
Billy: I have never hurt a woman in my life. - I just like to watch.
Lilah: Cordelia Chase, right? Come to gloat?
Cordelia: I can do that anywhere. Are you gonna invite me in? Oh, wait. I'm not a vampire.
Lilah: Please, come on in.
Cordelia: I want you to tell me about Billy. Everything you didn't tell Angel. I want you to help me stop him.
Lilah: And what makes you think I'm gonna do that?
Cordelia: Well, there's your face - for starters.
Lilah: I know the risks of my job and I accept them.
Cordelia: Then why where you crying five minutes ago? - There's not a thing about badly reapplied mascara that I don't know.
Lilah: I'm not Lindsey McDonald. I don't switch sides whenever it gets tough. And since when is this your job? I thought Angel was the dark avenger.
Cordelia: Angel feels responsible for this guy because he brought him back from hell. I feel responsible because he did it to save me. You, who are actually responsible for the entire thing, feel nothing at all, because you are a vicious bitch.
Lilah: So? You know me.
Cordelia: Please, I was you - with better shoes.
Lilah: These are Boracchi.
Cordelia: Fall collection?
Lilah: Next spring.
Cordelia: He's widened the heel.
Lilah: And rounded the toe.
Cordelia: That won't work with pink.
Lilah: The pink is out this spring.
Cordelia: Billy Blim makes people crazy.
Lilah: Not all people. Just men. He brings out a primordial misogyny in them. Turns them into killers.
Cordelia: Then why didn't he do it to Angel?
Lilah: Angel's seen him?
Cordelia: Yes, right before he escaped from the cops. What's so witty?
Lilah: Billy's touch works differently on different men. Some lose their mind in an instant. Others - can take hours. - Gee, I sure hope Angel isn't starting to feel testy.
Cordelia: You better hope it.
Lilah: I know. I've seen his dark side.
Cordelia: You really haven't. - I have to find Billy.
Lilah: And I'm gonna help you why?
Cordelia: You know that guy that you hired to hack into my visions? What he did to me? What it felt like? I was cut, my face disfigured, and burning with pain every second not knowing if it was gonna end or just get worse till I died.
Lilah: So you think I owe you...
Cordelia: It's not the pain. It's the helplessness. The certainty that there is nothing you can do to stop it, that your life can be thrown away in an instant by someone else. He doesn't care. He'll beat you down until you stay down because he doesn't even think of you as alive. - No woman should ever have to go through that, and no woman strong enough to wear the mantel of 'vicious bitch' would ever put up with it. - Where is Billy going?
Wesley: This was taken from the print I made of Billy's blood. Tell me what you think.
Fred: Looks to me as if some of the red blood cells are kind of supercharged.
Wesley: Those would probably be from Billy's demon lineage.
Fred: So, however Billy is putting the mojo on people, the power seems to be in his blood. Which means it can also be in his sweat or his saliva or even his touch.
Wesley: Speaking of saliva, where is Cordelia?
Fred: What do you mean 'speaking of saliva?' How does saliva make you...
Wesley: It's a simple question. Where is Cordelia?
Fred: I - I think she went out.
Wesley: Out? Did she happen to mention where?
Fred: She just - ah - she said an errand.
Wesley: So when you say you 'think' she went out, what you mean is you 'know' she went out because you spoke to her.
Fred: Well, I suppose I...
Fred: I - I did. Yes, I did.
Wesley: That's better. Lie to me again - and we're going to have a problem. Where're you going?
Fred: I was just gonna call Cordelia, find out where she is for you.
Wesley: That's not necessary.
Fred: It's not?
Wesley: No. - Sit down Fred.
Fred: It'll just...
Wesley: Sit! - Down. There's something we need to discuss.
Fred: I'm sorry I didn't tell you Cordelia left. Really I am.
Wesley: Pffft. We're past that. I've put it behind me. However, we are going to have to make some changes around here.
Fred: Change can be good, I guess.
Wesley: Like, no more of these provocative little outfits you wear.
Wesley: Maybe Mommy and Daddy never explain to you that men - grown men - are wired a certain way. - You can't be coming in here day after day waving it in my face like this.
Wesley: You're practically daring me to take it. Is that what you want?
Fred: Stop it!
Wesley: Oh, are we standing now? Is that what we're doing?
Fred: This conversation is making me very uncomfortable.
Wesley: Oh, you're uncomfortable. That's rich! How do you think I feel? What do you think it's like for me with you smelling the way you do?
Fred: Wesley, please.
Wesley: You think you can taunt a man and get away with it? You brush up close, bat your eyes - and then when our backs are turned, you laugh at us.
Fred: No, I would never...
Wesley: Humiliate us. You think you can do anything you please because you're connected to life, because you bleed, is that it?
Wesley: I'll show you blood. What do you tell a woman who has two black eyes? Nothing you haven't already told her twice. No sense of humor.
Dylan: You gotta know the rules around Billy. Everyone in the family knows the rules. You never leave him alone with your girlfriend, keep him away from your pets and don't ever let him touch you. Like, if he wants money you gotta leave it on the table and back away.
Angel: Is that why he was here?
Dylan: Yeah, he said he needed some - fun money. I just wanted to get rid of him.
Angel: So can you explain something to me? - How come you invited me in after I told you I wanted to kill your cousin?
Dylan: You're Angel, right?
Angel: Did Billy mention me?
Dylan: No, no. There was a chick here. She was cute, brunette. Well, she said that a melodramatic guy named Angel would eventually show up.
Angel: Cordelia... - thinks I'm melodramatic?
Dylan: Well, you did say that you were gonna kill my cousin.
Angel: That's not melodrama, melodrama She was here?!
Dylan: So you're saying that melodrama is exaggerated emo...
Angel: This isn't a demo, this is real! Where did you send her?
Wesley: Fred? - I know what you're doing. - What you're up to. - Luring me. Forcing me to find you. - Oh, it's such a dog and pony show. - You beguile me with your girlish ways I pursue you but you never give over, do you? - No, you just keep laughing and running. Well, guess what, my love - I'm not some downy-faced schoolboy. I'm a man.You can't come out into the open, can you? - No, you hide - you deceive. It's nothing new. It goes all the way back to Eve. - You and the serpent plotting behind our backs. - 'Here, honey, eat this. It's just an apple.' - That's the problem with your sex - you're all weak, and you're all dirty and you won't be satisfied until you've brought each and everyone of us out of the garden and down into the muck with you!
Billy: Yes? - Do I know you?
Cordelia: Not exactly. I thought we should meet. I'm the woman Wolfram and Hart tortured to get you out of your fire cell.
Billy: Oh, I see. - And you're here to whine. Poor, helpless, battered woman who needs to vent her feelings about the injustice of it all.
Cordelia: No, ass-wipe. I'm here to send you back.
Billy: You think I hate you because you're a woman. I don't.
Cordelia: Gee, and I was feeling special.
Billy: I don't hate women. I mean, sure, you're all whores who sell yourselves for money and prestige, but men are just as bad. Maybe even worse. They're willing to throw away careers or families, or even lives for what's under your skirt!
Cordelia: I'm wearing pants.
Billy: So, you can dress like a man, talk like a man? Does that make you feel superior?
Cordelia: Actually, I'm feeling superior because I have an arrow pointed at your jugular. - And the irony of using a phallic shaped weapon? Not lost on me.
Billy: You don't have the nerve to do it.
Cordelia: Wrong again.
Angel: I can't let you do it, Cordelia.
Billy: You saved me again! I knew that you would.
Cordelia: Angel, you know what he is!
Angel: Yeah, I do. Which is why I'm gonna waste this piece of garbage myself.
Cordelia: Angel! He can't hurt me.
Billy: No, I won't hurt her. I won't hurt her at all!
Wesley: Would you like to hear my theory, Fred? - It's about how stupid you are. - I believe that after five years of living in a cave - you'll instinctively retreat to small dark places, rather than run outside where you'd be safe. Let's finish this.
Fred: I'm sorry, Wesley.
Wesley: You're sorry?
Fred: You were right about me liking dark places to hide in. But you forgot I also like to build things.
Cordelia: I don't get it.
Angel: I don't get it either.
Cordelia: I mean, you're a man. So why didn't Billy's touch affect you?
Angel: Well, maybe because - I'm not human.
Cordelia: Oh, right. And a vampire could never be turned into a monster.
Angel: Well, that thing that Billy brought out in others? - The hatred and anger... that's something I lost a long time ago.
Cordelia: Even when you were evil?
Angel: I never hated my victims, I never killed out of anger, it was always about the - pain and the pleasure.
Cordelia: Huh. - So I guess you could say that your demoness makes less petty than humans. Almost noble - I mean, in a twisted, dark and really disturbing kind of way.
Cordelia: Hm-mm. It's weird!
Angel: What is?
Cordelia: I'm starting to get used to being creeped out and comforted at the same time.
Angel: I get that.
Fred: Wesley? - Wesley, it's me, Fred. Oh - does that hurt? Sorry. - I left a bunch of messages.
Wesley: Yes. I meant to call you back. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
Fred: Wesley, you gotta come back to work.
Wesley: How can I?
Fred: What do you mean? How can you not? You're the boss. We need you. - You took a few days off. That's good. We all did. - But now it's time to come back.
Wesley: Fred, I tried to kill you.
Fred: That wasn't you.
Wesley: How can you know that? Something inside me was forced to the surface. Something primal, something...
Fred: Do you wanna kill me?
Wesley: Oh, God, no.
Fred: It wasn't something in you, Wesley. It was something that was done to you.
Wesley: I don't know what kind of man I am anymore.
Billy, the man Angel rescued from a Hell dimension, likes to watch. More to the point his touch infects men with a primative rage toward women who then savagely kill the women while Billy watches. And Oh! what fun! Wes is infected. With Fred. And they'r
What appears to be your standard monster of the week episode is actually quite deceiving. This episode has the beginnings of some character development that will echo for the rest of the series' too short run. Fred loses the crazy and drops most of her accent. Also, this is the first time that Wes reveals his feelings for Fred, though I'm sure him chasing her through the hotel with an AX doesn't help his cause. Neither does that fact that, who else but Gunn pops up to try and save her. So, if I'm interpreting this correctly then its have-girl-knock-me-unconscious and date her for a season *or* make really bad beaten women jokes and then date girl for half an episode before she turns into a smurf. Damn, dating's tough, but I digress...
The scene between Lilah and Cordelia (they're first encounter I believe) is Joss at is his best: funny, snappy and also rather poignant.