Season 3 Episode 10


Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Dec 10, 2001 on The WB
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Episode Summary

Angel discovers how hard it is being a new dad - especially when the demon underworld is after your newborn son. Will he be able to keep his son safe from the hordes of demons after his new born son?

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  • Record for most annoying episode goes to THIS one

    fluffysheap said it so well there is no need to repeat.. Although I didn't actually shut mine off, instead I just skimmed through all the annoying parts. Also the Cordelia/Angel parts were quite sickening. can't believe they went there. Cordelia may be physically attractive, but there is nothing appealing about her.
  • Hey... It's Flo from Progressive Insurance commercials on Angel :)

    Was just watching this episode of Angel (Dad, Season 3 Episode 10) and 16 minutes into it up pops this familiar face... She is the files & records girl Gwen (Stephanie Courtney) that Lilah goes to for information on Angel. Just thought it was worth a mention ;) I had to look up to be sure & yep... It's her :)
  • Hello Connor


    The Good;

    Love all the Lilah stuff, especially love 'Files and records' girl (who presumably gets killed by the Beast in season 4). The seige of the Hyperion is also good as is the reveal of Lorne's message

    The Bad;

    Won't the LAPD notice all this going on?

    Best line:

    Holtz; "I think you'll find your modern popular culture references wasted on me" (No kidding!)

    Apocalypses: 5

    Angel Cliches

    In disguise; 8

    DB get's his shirt off; 12

    Cordy's tatt; 9,

    Cheap Angel; 7

    Fang Gang in bondage:

    Cordy: 5

    Angel: 11

    Wes: 6

    Gunn; 3

    Lorne; 2

    Fang gang knocked out:

    Cordy: 11

    Angel: 14

    Wes: 5

    Doyle; 1

    Gunn; 1

    Lorne; 2

    Kills: 3 demons, 2 humans and a vamp for Wes, a demon for Gunn, 4 vamps, 4 demons and 4 humans for Angel

    Cordy: 5 vamps, 3 demons

    Angel; 32 vamps, 45 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans

    Doyle; 1 vamp

    Wes; 10 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans

    Kate; 3 vamps

    Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.

    Gunn; 8 vamps+ 7 demons.

    Fang Gang go evil:

    Cordy: 2

    Angel: 2

    Alternate Fang Gang:

    Cordy: 2

    Angel: 7

    Characters killed:


    Recurring characters killed;


    Total number of Angel Investigations: Lorne moves into the Hyperion and joins the gang. Most would say that this is the definitive Angel Investigation line-up?

    6, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred and Lorne

    Angel Investigations shot:

    Angel: 11

    Wes; 1

    Packing heat; literally, Wes with a flamethrower (why not use that more often?)plus Angel with explosives

    Wes; 5

    Doyle; 1

    Angel; 1

    Gunn; 1

    Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:

    Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis

    Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies

    Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde

    Captain Subtext;

    Angel has a woman's taste in clothes according to CC.

    Know the face, different character; 4

    Parking garages;


    Buffy characters on Angel; 16

    Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

    Questions and observations;

    Justine's sister is portrayed by Pat Tallman (her stunt double) who was one of my favourite characters from Babylon 5. Gunn refers to his cousin, I thought Elana was his only family? Fred is a computer expert now, just like Willow. Connor likes Angel in vampface which explains why he has no problem with Jasmine's true form. Cordy comments that Connor has Angel's brow. Holtz has killed 378 vamps in 9 years which is good going, in six years by my count Buffy has only killed about 150 vamps/demons and she's the most successful Slayer ever (although she has spent much of that time running away to LA and dead).

    Marks out of 10; 9/10, slam bam all the way.

  • Dad

    Dad was a really superb episode of Angel. I really enjoyed watching this story unfold as Angel fights to protect his newborn son. There was a lot of character development on Angel's part and it was interesting to see how he intereacted with the other characters regarding the baby. There was lots of supernatural action, drama, intrigue, and suspense. I think this episode definitely paves the way for the future of the series and I can't wait to see how it all plays out. This episode really sets the tone for the events that will play out in the rest of the season. There were some great scenes with the Wolfram & Hart Lawyers, as well as the regular Angel Investigations crew. I look forward to seeing how every thing plays out in the next episode!!!!!!!moreless
  • Something might happen, if you can stand it long enough

    This is the only episode of the series that was so unpleasant I turned it off.

    If I wanted to listen to squalling baby, I'd book an airplane flight. After five minutes of non-stop crying, I started hoping the vampire cult would capture the baby... and eat it. After ten minutes of non-stop crying, I gave up and came to to see how the episode turns out, because I simply couldn't stand it any more.

    I'm glad that the baby wasn't the focus of too many episodes, because babies aren't characters. They're only a plot device, and there's only so much you can do with them.moreless
Kira Tirimacco

Kira Tirimacco


Guest Star

Stephanie Courtney

Stephanie Courtney


Guest Star

Patricia Tallman

Patricia Tallman

Julia Cooper (uncredited)

Guest Star

Daniel Dae Kim

Daniel Dae Kim

Gavin Park

Recurring Role

Stephanie Romanov

Stephanie Romanov

Lilah Morgan

Recurring Role

Laurel Holloman

Laurel Holloman


Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (13)

    • When searching for Holtz in Angel's Wolfram and Hart file, Liliah attempts to remember what Angel called him while they were at the hotel. However, she was just watching surveillance footage of Angel Investigations talking about Holtz by name and the whiteboard with Holtz's name on the top was clearly visible in the corner of their screen.

    • When Wolfram & Hart are reviewing the tape of Lorne passing the note to Angel, the magnified view is not quite the same shot as the view they paused on initially.

      Also in that shot, Linwood says to "magnify 100 times". In reality, the first magnification is about 6.25 times (i.e., 2.5 times in each direction). When he says "again", the magnification is about 16 times...or about 100 times between the two.

      Had it actually been 100 times in both cases, we would have seen only a small portion of the note filling the entire screen.

    • While Angel is spouting off the plan for him to run off with the baby, the blanket is covering the baby's face. This might be because the baby is in fact the teddy bear and the real baby is elsewhere. It is generally a bad idea to smother one's child with his own blanket.

    • Lilah Morgan's Wolfram & Hart clearance number is 0112773, which is also her elevator access code (as seen in other episodes).

    • Just before Angel tells Wesley to stall when he's fleeing with the bomb, the camera angle switches to a closer shot, and the bomb switches from arm to arm.

    • Why does Angel talk to the fake "baby" in the car while leading everyone away from the hotel and the real child? I can understand that it works for the dramatic tension and making the audience think that the baby is really in danger, but within the actual Whedon-verse it makes no sense. Unless Angel assumes his car has been bugged too, but there's no indication that he thinks that or that Wolfram & Hart ever went near his car. What's the deal with that?

    • When Angel is driving his car being chased by all the monsters, for a short clip the car's roof is gone.

    • The tape of Lorne handing Angel the note and the real Lorne giving Angel the note don't match up. Lorne gives Angel the note earlier in the tape than he actually does.

    • In some wide shots of the Hyperion, the signs indicating the real name of the site, Los Altos Hotel and Apts, are clearly visible. The signs also switch from being lit to unlit.

    • The hospital seem curiously unconcerned about a battered, bruised group of people coming in with a child, saying the mother is gone, and having the father race in at the last minute to claim the child without displaying any kind of I.D.

    • The fake baby stand-in is noticeably smaller and stiffer than the real baby in the other shots.

    • Angel climbs out of a square sewer access tunnel that has a round manhole cover.

    • The baby's scratch keeps disappearing and reappearing as the baby wipes off the make-up and they reapply it between shots.

  • QUOTES (13)

    • Angel: (to Linwood) My son's got a tiny scratch on his cheek and now so do you. I'm holding you responsible for anything that happens to him. A cold, a sunburn, a scratched knee. Whatever happens to him, happens to you, and then some. Not only are you not coming after him you'll make sure he lives a long, healthy life. You just became his godfather. Understand?

    • Wesley: You nearly had sex on my desk so I shouldn't be surprised there's a baby on it.

    • Angel: We'll get through this, I promise. The vampire/demon/biker posse, that's the easy part. (the Hum-vee following rams his car from behind) The part that scares me - is all the questions. Why is the sky blue. Why do people get sick. Why is there always pigs' blood in the fridge? I don't have all the answers. Well, I do to that last one.

    • Angel: I'm his only family. My job now is to be everything for him.
      Cordy: Really? Okay. Follow me. Come on.
      (Takes Angel outside)
      Angel: Where are we going?
      Cordy: Come on.
      Angel: Cordelia...
      Cordy: We're going outside, where your son's gonna wanna go play, where you'll have to rush him to the hospital if he gets sick in the daytime. But I see your point. You can't go outside in the day like other parents because - you're a vampire. And even if you weren't, you can't do everything for him.
      Angel: (Puts his arm into the sunlight and it starts to burn) If he has to get to the hospital at noon on the sunniest day of the year, he'll get there - even if I don't.

    • Cordy: (To Angel) So, you're just gonna leave?
      Gunn: Sure, it's what he does best. You sure you don't wanna fire us first?

    • Cordelia: (reading a book on baby health care) Are you going to circumcise?

    • Lorne: Oh, just listening to those Furies gives me whiplash! Thank god they finally left. My head was about to pop off, which, granted, not that big a deal.

    • Gunn: What are you doing?
      Wesley: Trying to imagine myself as John Wayne in Rio Bravo, you?
      Gunn: Austin Stoker, Assault on Precinct Thirteen.
      Cordy: If we live through this, trade in the DVD players and get a life.

    • Lorne: (about Angel) Good morning, all. Is that bacon I smell or did somebody fall asleep with the curtains open?

    • Wesley: Did you know these diapers are lined with a space-age material originally designed for NASA astronauts? - Interesting. Though now I'm picturing grown men wearing nappies and am rather disturbed.

    • Cordy: (to Angel) You don't have a woman's touch, whatever your taste in clothing may indicate.

    • Lorne: He doesn't like Smokey Robinson and the Miracles? I thought you said this kid had a soul.

    • Linwood: I like kids. The Senior Partners took mine before I really got to know them.

  • NOTES (1)


    • Gunn: What are you doing?
      Wesley: Trying to imagine myself as John Wayne in Rio Bravo. You?
      Gunn: Austin Stoker. Assault on Precinct 13.

      Wesley and Gunn both refer to movies where the protagonists must hold out while being besieged by unstoppable forces. John Wayne needed to hold off a rancher's hired guns from a county jail, while Austin Stoker had to defend an almost-deserted police station from a street gang.

    • Lilah: Dusted during childbirth is more like it. According to our sources she staked herself, leaving the baby alive and kicking but never actually born. MacDuff was from his mother's womb untimely ripped.
      In Shakespeare's Macbeth the Witches' prophecy was that "...none of woman born shall harm Macbeth" Unfortunately for Macbeth, the Scottish nobleman Macduff was "from his mother's womb untimely ripped" and thus not naturally born of woman. Macduff was the only agent capable of destroying Macbeth.