Deep Down

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Angel and Cordelia are still missing. Gunn and Fred are still looking for them, but unbeknowist to them, one answer has been living with them all along -- Connor. Meanwhile, Wesley continues his relationship with Lilah and searches for a way to redeem himself.moreless
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  • Starting from scratch

    7.0
    "Good"
    By joxerlives, Jan 21, 2012
    DEEP DOWN

    The Good;
    Wonderful to see Fred and Gunn as Connor's surrogate parents during the summer, would love to see that in the comics sometime. Love Fred's attempts to speak 'street' especially Gunn's little look when she says 'Word'.

    The Bad;
    The vamp Fred and Gunn confront gives them the info they want then tries to attack them anyway, please!

    Best line:
    Gunn; "2 coats of polish"

    Jeez, how did they get away with that?
    Fred is pretty vicious with the old taser! Also Linwood get's 'headhunted' WR&H style

    Apocalypses: 5

    Angel Cliches

    In disguise; 8

    DB get's his shirt off; 12

    Cordy's tatt; 10

    Cheap Angel;
    Fang Gang in bondage: Connor tied to the chair
    Cordy: 5
    Angel: 12
    Wes: 6
    Gunn; 4
    Lorne; 3
    Fred; 2
    Connor; 1

    Fang gang knocked out: Connor and Fred
    Cordy: 12
    Angel: 15
    Wes: 5
    Doyle; 1
    Gunn; 1
    Lorne; 3
    Groo; 1
    Fred; 1
    Connor; 1

    Kills: 2 vamps for Fred, 1 for Gunn and 2 for Connor
    Cordy: 5 vamps, 3 demons
    Angel; 41 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
    Doyle; 1 vamp
    Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
    Kate; 3 vamps
    Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
    Gunn; 11 vamps+ 11 demons.
    Groo; 1 demon
    Fred; 3 vamps
    Connor; 4 vamps and 1 demon

    Fang Gang go evil:
    Cordy: 2
    Angel: 2
    Gunn; 1
    Wes; 1

    Alternate Fang Gang:
    Cordy: 2
    Angel: 8
    Fred; 1

    Characters killed:
    46

    Recurring characters killed;
    8;

    Total number of Angel Investigations:3
    Gunn, Angel and Fred

    Angel Investigations shot:
    Angel: 11
    Wes; 1

    Packing heat;
    Wes; 6
    Doyle; 1
    Angel; 2
    Gunn; 1

    Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Lilah and Wes
    Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
    Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
    Wes; 3; Virginia, the bleached blonde and Lilah plus possibly Justine?
    Gunn; 1 Fred
    Fred; 1 Gunn
    Groo; 1Cordy

    Kinky dinky:
    Lilah appears to wear no bra. Wes keeps Justine as a slave girl, do they have sex? Lorne says give fluffy enough love, Fred wonders does he mean Gunn or some part of her?

    Captain Subtext;
    Fred flatters Gunn that he's the Alpha male of AI. Despite being his slave Wes won't make Justine feed Angel from herself, he knows that would cross the line after losing her sister. When Angel get's back Gunn tells Connor to stand by for his spanking. Connor warns the gang that Angel will turn on them which he will.
    Goodbye to Justine who will change her identity, move to San Francisco and embrace her inner lesbian.

    Know the face, different character; 4

    Parking garages;
    5,

    Buffy characters on Angel; 16
    Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

    What the fanficcers thought;
    Read a pretty good one once where Justine discovers she's pregnant with Wes' twins and goes off to rebuild her life.

    Questions and observations;
    Hell of a long teaser, if you hadn't been following the series you'd be utterly lost. Note that whilst Wes is back at the AI dinner table there's no Groo? AI are almost broke, either Angel must subsidise the agency with his private income or they must spend all their time looking for Angel and CC. Vamps can exist indefinitely without blood but they go mad with hunger. Lilah mentions Mr Subarto, did she actually meet a senior partner? Do Buffy and co know about Angel's disappearance? Oddly this summer is probably the best time Connor ever has, he has 2 loving parents and a fairly normal life (as normal as it can be working for AI)
    Marks out of 10; 7/10moreless

  • Angel, Connor, Cordelia and Wesley.

    7.8
    "Good"
    By SMGslayer97, Jan 14, 2011
    So to recap when we last left things Connor has sunk Angel to the bottom of the ocean avenging his "father" Holtz, Angel was well sinking to the bottom of ocean after being totally betrayed be Connor and tricked by Holtz, Cordelia was becoming a higher power, and Wesley after being betrayed by his friends somehow ended up sleeping with Lilah in a manner I am still not entirely clear on.

    Thank goodness though the heroic Wesley that we knew is not lost under all that tough guy, furrowed brow, chaining women in closets thing that he has going on now. He saves Angel, pulls him out of the ocean and returns him the Fred and Gunn. Thus informing them of Connor's betrayal, and boy howdy is everybody pissed. After Fred tasers him a couple of time a very angry Angel confronts him and kicks him, knowing that Connor is still so tainted by Holtz and what he taught him. Meanwhile Cordelia is off in floaty cloud land being a power, I guess. It's totally random the way the show her but pretty funny.

    One of the best parts of the episode are Angel's distrubing dreams, while trapped in the ocean. He dreams of meeting Cordelia where they had planned to meet had Cordy not became a higher being (and Connor would have had to not betray Angel as well) and feeding off her. He also dreams that all them, everyone including Connor and Wesley, are having a nice dinner at the hotel. It's all very sweet, he and Cordy are all couple-y and everything is great and then room is suddenly filled with water and Connor is all super scary. The dream sequences are done really well.moreless

  • Deep Down

    10
    "Perfect"
    By TrueTvWatcher, Dec 16, 2010
    Deep Down was a perfect first episode of the fourth season of Angel. I really enjoyed watching this episode because it started out with vivid hallucinations for Angel while Connor try's to protect his secret from Gunn and Fred. I thought the scene with Wesley and Lilah was good, especially the revelation after she left. I also really enjoyed watching the politics play out at Wolfram & Hart. Lilah truly is a Bad @** &!^$# and really knows how to play the game. I thought Wesley and Justine's interactions on the boat were humorous and interesting insights into the characters. I enjoyed watching Fred subdue Connor and it was a great scene when Daddy got home. I really liked the ending and thought it humorous, but I wish we got to see more of the realm where Cordelia dwells!!!!!!!moreless

  • Angel is still stuck under the sea and cordelia is stil asended in the high havens so Fred and Gunn are still stuck clueless about what happened to the two of them.moreless

    8.5
    "Great"
    By Demonslayer4257, Apr 03, 2009
    I dont care what T.V .com says this spinoff should be number one on the top ten spinoffs. ( Joey, come on!) There are so many cool plot twists that take place through out the episode lie te return of Wesley to the good guys and the fact that Connor has remained with Fred and Gunn and wants to remove all trace of evidence of Angels "mysterious disaperance". The episode runs fast and forty minutes went by in a flash for me as the episode came to its dramatic conclusion of Anges rturn and Connors capture. A great start to an amazing series about the adventures of a vampire with a soul.moreless

  • Angel and Cordelia are still missing; the start of Season 4 sets things in motion.

    9.3
    "Superb"
    By TwistedConverse, Jul 28, 2008
    Deep Down is the beginning of the tremendous Season 4 and feels a bit like a continuation of S3- Connor sinking Angel to the bottom of the ocean is still at the forefront and Cordelia being missing takes an important role also.

    The dream sequence at the start embodies all of which Angel wants; him and Cordelia are together, Connor is the loving son, Wesley is still his friend and he seems to be human, judging from the fact he says he's starving and tries to get the food. The dream quickly changes in tone with the food disappearing and Connor turning back into the evil bitca he really is. Then it cuts to Angel lying at the bottom of the ocean, screaming.

    This dream sets the tone of the season; Angel wants these things and it seemed like he was getting them at last but then when he comes back, everything is different; Connor is further away from him than ever, Cordelia is missing and when she comes back she's evil and he reverts to Angelus, slipping away from his humanity. This season is the darkest in the series; by the end of it everyone is at a completely different place but closer for the all the heartache and troubles they've gone through. Fred and Gunn seem closer together than ever this episode; they seem to have become parental figures to Connor with Gunn taking position as alpha male. They reprimand him for doing bad things and praise him for doing good things- they almost feel like family. Of course that all changed when Fred tortures Connor and ties him up (go Fred!). She seems genuinely disappointed in him.

    Wesley is an interesting character here; he claims to not care about Angel's whereabouts, claiming that part of his life is dead, yet rescues Angel, not on a whim, but as if he had a plan; Justine has clearly been locked in the closet for a long time, so Wesley obviously has been planning this for some time. His relationship with Lilah seems deeper than it was last time we seen them. They speak to each other quite fondly and Lilah protects him from Wolfram and Hart.Speaking of Lilah, thank God she killed Linwood and replaced him as the boss of special projects; her character is much better than his and he's quite unnecessary. Plus it was worth it to see Gavin's face.

    I like that Angel actually punished Connor here and kicked him out, we needed to see that little creep get his comeuppance. I liked Angel's speech to him also, reminding him that Angel is a champion and he isn't. The ending of Cordy stuck on the higher plane was great and her line "God, I am so bored." was priceless. I would have liked to see more of her here this episode though as it would have been interesting to see her perspective.

    Deep Down is an excellent episode that ties up S3 and begins S4. It has great visual effects and scenes and should not be missed.moreless
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    • Fred uses Angel's wrist stakes that were first introduced in City of (1x01).

    • Gunn says they asked Wesley for help twice already. In fact, Gunn only asked him for help in the Price. No one in the gang has talked to him since.

    • When Angel hallucinates the perfect dinner with his family/friends, Wesley is shown with the short haircut and little facial hair, just as Angel remembers him. So why does Gunn have a goatee even though Angel never saw him with one before.

    • In a parallel to the 3rd-season premiere of "Buffy," Angel is separated from his friends and dreams of Cordelia, who has been (though unbeknownst to him) sent to another plane; in the 3rd-season premiere of "Buffy," Buffy, willingly separated from her friends for the summer, dreams of Angel, who she KNOWS has been exiled to another plane--because she sent him there. Each episode ends with the title character's homecoming and the loved one still missing and/or presumed dead for several more episodes.

    • In Angel's dream-dinner, all of his favourite current friends/family have assembled (Cordelia, Connor, Fred, Gunn, Lorne and Wesley). This would probably be Angel's "perfect" dinner, because even though Angel was unaware that Groo left, Groo is mysteriously absent from this scene.

    • It's odd that Gunn tells Fred to let the phone ring. They've been trying to find clues all summer about what happened to Angel and Cordelia, but they don't respond when someone calls them, possibly with information.

    • No one seems too concerned, worried, or curious about where Groo is, even though he would most likely have clues about what happened to Cordelia and was never implied to have told anyone else he was leaving.

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    • (after sex) Lilah: That didn't suck. Well, maybe just a little bit. Wesley: Perhaps that's something we can expand on next time.

    • Justine: He'll turn on you! He won't be able to help it. That's what he is. Sooner or later he will turn on you and all your friends! You just gonna leave me here? Wesley: You can continue being a slave Justine or you can live your life. Your choice.

    • Angel: (delirious) Life should be beautiful but no matter how hard I try, everything I touch turns to ashes. Lorne: Well, there goes that encouraging hug I was planning. Snap to, buckaroo. The only one turning to ash is that patricidal pup of yours. Hell, I'd take him out myself if I wasn't just a crappy hallucination.

    • Connor: This gonna be the yelling thing again? Fred: No. No yelling. Connor: He looks like he's gonna yell. Gunn: I do not. Connor: He always looks like he's gonna yell. Gunn: I'm not gonna yell!

    • Justine: All the energy you've wasted to save that thing, for what? A happy ending? Everything like it was? He hates you. They all do and they're never going to take you back.

    • Wesley: (as Justine raises a monkey wrench to strike him) I'll take away your bucket.

    • Justine: Angel got what he deserved. Wesley: We all get what we deserve.

    • Justine: You really think finding Angel is going to change anything? Wesley: Everything changes. Justine: Well, I guess anything's better than sitting around in my cage all day with nothing to do but to fill my bucket. Wesley: Perhaps you should have considered that before slitting my throat.

    • Angel: I love you, Connor. Now get out of my house.

    • Angel: What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective.

    • Angel: (raising his glass) To family. Lorne: As long as it is not mine!

    • Gunn: You're gonna eat all that? Fred: Until I'm fat and happy.

    • Angel: Sit down! Connor: You're too weak to take me. Angel: You really think that? (Connor thinks about it, quickly sits down)

    • Lorne: Back in Pylea they used to call me 'sweet potato.' Connor: Really? Lorne: Yeah, well, the exact translation was 'fragrant tuber' but...

    • Fred: (to Connor) I know you're still hurting, but I promise... it's not nearly as much as you're going to hurt for what you did to your father.

    • Gunn: (to Connor on Angel's return) That's right, Sparky, Daddy's coming home. And I'm guessing there's going to be a spanking.

    • Connor: I'm telling the truth! Angel: I can tell. You've done enough lying for me to tell the difference. Truth has a better sound to it. Less nasal, you know

    • Gunn: (about Connor) If he ain't dead I'm gonna kill him!

    • Angel: I did get the time to think. About us. About the world. Nothing in this world is the way it ought to be. It's harsh. And cruel. But that's why there's us. Champions. It doesn't matter where we come from. What we've done or suffered or even if we make a difference. We live as though the world were as it should be. To show it what it can be.

    • Cordelia: God, I am so bored!

    • Lorne: (on phone to Fred) Make sure Fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No, and who's Fluffy? Are you Fluffy? Gunn: He called me Fluffy? Fred: He said make sure... Wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

    • Fred: He's testing you. With Angel gone, you're the alpha male. Gunn: Damn straight. Fred: Don't let it go to your head. Gunn: That's not the direction it's flowing.

    • Angel: (To Connor) So - how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

    • Justine: The great Wesley Wyndam-Price, the shining beacon of all that's good and pure. But wait, no! That's before he started banging the enemy and keeping slave-girls in his closet.

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    • This episode received a 3.7/5 in the overnight ratings.

    • This line by the vampire Marissa was cut from the episode due to length. Marissa: I didn't see nothing, I swear. You know how dark it is down by the bluffs? And hey, my eyes were never that good. Sure, the creature of the night thing helps, but...

    • Lorne's family nickname on Pylea translates as "fragrant tuber" and Gunn's self-styled nickname is Big Dog.

    • Angel mentions having been sent to Hell for a hundred years by his girlfriend. The girlfriend is Buffy. (Buffy the Vampire Slayer - episode "Becoming (2)").

    • Andy Hallett does the "Previously on Angel" voiceover.

    • In an interview with Steven DeKnight, he reveals that David Greenwalt was to write Angel's fourth season premiere, but a fight with 20th Century Fox persuaded him to leave Angel and create Miracles for ABC. As a result, DeKnight was recruited to write "Deep Down."

    • This is the only season premiere in which Angel does not slay a demon in the opening scenes. In "City of..." Angel takes down a group of vampires; in "Judgement" Angel, Wes, and Cordy take down the demon in the gym; in "Heartthrob" Angel fights the demon monks; and in "Conviction" Angel saves the girl from the vampire.

    • One of the Senior Partners' name is mentioned in this episode, Mr. Suvarta.

    • This marks Laurel Holloman's (Justine) final appearance on the show.

    • Lilah now becomes Head of the Special Projects Division following the death of Linwood.

    • Andy Hallett (Lorne) is credited as "Special Guest Star Andy Hallett."

    • This episode marks the death of Linwood (John Rubinstein).

    • Alexis Denisof is now listed last in the credits as opposed to third place where he has been in previous seasons, he is also credited as "and Alexis Denisof".

    • Despite initial plans to have continuing character Gwen Raiden appear in the first episode of the new season, her first appearance was deferred to a later date.

    • Vincent Kartheiser joins the regular cast and is listed in the opening credits.

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    • Angel: Kind of a M. C. Escher perspective... M.C Escher was a Dutch graphic artist known for his often mathematically inspired art which feature impossible constructions, explorations of infinity, and tessellations.

    • Gunn: Been playing a little Ahab. Gunn compares Wesley to the obsessed captain trying to find the whale in the novel Moby Dick.

    • Lorne: Not a peep. But if I Miracle-Ear anything I'll send up a smoke signal. Lorne is referring to the hearing aid that is advertised as being so small it's nearly invisible.

    • Gunn: His nickname back in Quor-toth was 'The Destroyer,' and unless you put 'Conan' in front of that I'm guessing it's not a good sign. This is a reference to the novels and later film (Conan the Destroyer), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    • Gunn: Evil Dead was probably just messing with us. Referring to the 1981 horror film written and directed by Sam Raimi, which spawned two sequels.

    • Lilah: Mr. Suvarta didn't think Linwood's corner of the sky was sunny enough.
      "Corner of the Sky" is a song from the Broadway musical Pippin,which starred John Rubenstein (Linwood) in the lead role when it debuted in the 1970's.

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