Double or Nothing

Season 3, Episode 18, Aired

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Gunn and Fred are finding an oasis of happiness amidst the pain around them, but all of it may be lost when a repo-man shows up to collect on a bargain that Gunn made years before. In order to make good, Gunn must surrender his soul.moreless
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  • Groo and gambling

    6.0
    "Fair"
    By joxerlives, Jan 21, 2012
    DOUBLE OR NOTHING

    The Good;
    The Groo and CC back which is marvellous. Lovely little scene with CC and Angel and also a lovely little scene of Pylean kinship between Lorne and the Groo over the 'ritual of the bereaved'. Wonderful final confrontation too, watched this ep first at a convention and people cheered when Angel delivers his line
    The Bad;
    The angry young man Gunn stuff is not so good. The cockney demon debt collector is deeply stupid, Guy Ritchie has a lot to answer for. When he first sees Caritas Gunn comments he's never seen anything like it but we find here he has (unless he's never seen karoke before?).

    Best line:
    Angel; "Am I the only one who owes this guy money?"

    Jeez, how did they get away with that?
    CC staking the guy's hand to the table. Gunn being so mean when breaking up with Fred is also hard to watch as is the guy getting his soul removed by Jenoff. Jenoff's death is not half as yucky as his 'rebirth'.

    Apocalypses: 5

    Angel Cliches
    Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Angel loses the card game and actually cheats, breaking his word to the guy. We think Fred is going to be more sympathectic towards Wes but she rejects him.

    In disguise; 8

    DB get's his shirt off; 12

    Cordy's tatt; 10

    Cheap Angel; 9

    Fang Gang in bondage:
    Cordy: 5
    Angel: 11
    Wes: 6
    Gunn; 4
    Lorne; 3
    Fred; 2

    Fang gang knocked out:
    Cordy: 11
    Angel: 14
    Wes: 5
    Doyle; 1
    Gunn; 1
    Lorne; 3

    Kills: Gunn kills a skench demon
    Cordy: 5 vamps, 3 demons
    Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
    Doyle; 1 vamp
    Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
    Kate; 3 vamps
    Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
    Gunn; 10 vamps+ 11 demons.
    Groo; 1 demon
    Fred; 1 vamp

    Fang Gang go evil:
    Cordy: 2
    Angel: 2
    Gunn; 1
    Wes; 1

    Alternate Fang Gang:
    Cordy: 2
    Angel: 8

    Characters killed:
    46

    Recurring characters killed;
    8;

    Total number of Angel Investigations:
    6, Angel, Cordy, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo

    Angel Investigations shot:
    Angel: 11
    Wes; 1

    Packing heat;
    Wes; 6
    Doyle; 1
    Angel; 2
    Gunn; 1

    Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
    Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
    Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
    Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
    Gunn; 1 Fred
    Fred; 1 Gunn
    Groo; 1Cordy

    Kinky dinky:
    The demon fancies Fred, again weird, shouldn't demons like other demons? Groo comments Gunn is fortunate to have a woman such as Fred to 'take care of his weapon'.

    Know the face, different character; 4

    Parking garages;
    5,

    Buffy characters on Angel; 16
    Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

    Questions and observations;
    Blonde Cordy! Angel seems unaware that Fred and Gunn were dating, I thought he overheard them in 'Waiting in the Wings'. No leprechauns in the Angelverse although considering how they appeared on Charmed maybe we should be grateful. Wes coming home to an empty flat is a real killer. Angel refers to the AI gang as family.
    Marks out of 10; 6/10, fun but nothing special

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  • gunn loves a truck

    7.7
    "Good"
    By AngelRocks, Dec 16, 2010
    an average episoe but good. gunn sold his soul for a truck and now he has to give it away or fred is gonna die. he breaks up with fred but she is smart to know that something is going on and asks the gang for help.

    the episode was good but gunn just sin't very interesting. i just felt really bad for wesley who is in the hospital and even fred doesnt want him.
    luckily cordelia is back! her scenes with angel make this episode. angel tries to move on with the loss of his child and at the end he realises that its the best. poor angel! good episode but some stuff were kinda boring.moreless

  • He Sold His Soul for Truck, Truck, Truck!

    7.0
    "Good"
    By lenzinoH20, Dec 16, 2010
    Double or Nothing-Gunn and Fred are finding an oasis of happiness amidst the pain around them, but all of it may be lost when a repo-man shows up to collect on a bargain that Gunn made years before. In order to make good, Gunn must surrender his soul.

    An average episode turned good thanks to the return of Cordelia. It's been a dark 3 episodes since we saw Cordelia last and her return back home is a lot to take in. The scenes with Cordelia comforting a grieve strieken Angel was wonderful and both characters just seem to connected at this point. Also Wesley scenes are just so hard to watch as you realize his completely alone, which is depressing and begins the character's dark spiral. But with 2 storng sub-plots, the A-plot is the weakest. While Gunn and Fred continue to be a cute pair, the plot just never really had a point. Especailly finding out Gunn sold his soul for a truck, I mean are the writers trying to make Gunn that stupid? All and All, a good episode with some great subplots but an slow A-plot.moreless

  • Why is this random filler amidst all the drama going on?

    7.7
    "Good"
    By TwistedConverse, Dec 16, 2010
    Double Or Nothing is a somewhat average episode that has some good emotional moments but feels tossed in- we're in the middle of a huge arc and they decided an episode involving a demon casino and Gunn's past would fit in?

    The main story of Gunn and the soul-sucking demon wasn't that interesting IMO- almost all Gunn related episodes are quite boring (with the exception of the excellent "Players"). The flashback to Gunn's past was irksome, mostly because teenage Gunn is just annoying and lives up to the typical street fighter cliche. We knew he wasn't going to lose his soul and that Angel would arrive in the nick of time to save him and it all happened as expected. I really didn't care for any of this and would have preferred this episode to concentrate on the emotional impact of the last 3 episodes. The Wesley scenes were perhaps the highlight of the episode. He is clearly not coping well and who could blame him? Angel tried to kill him, Justine tried to kill him.. he's having a rough time. I really liked the Fred/Wesley scene in th hospital and that she said what I was feeling; whilst Angel was wrong for attempting to kill Wes, he was right to blame him. Wesley's actions were idiotic and reckless- instead of working through the problem as a time, he kidnapped Connor, which was never going to end well. I do feel bad for Wesley but he needs to acknowledge that it was a lot of his fault that Connor is in a hell dimension.

    I greatly enjoyed the return of Cordelia here and it was really obvious that she is the glue of this group- her presence helps Angel come to terms with his loss and deal with it accordingly. I really noticed her three episode absence and missed her a lot. However, I positively detest her new hair- too short, too blond. Her old darker, longer hair was much better- she should have kept it. I liked the last scene a lot too- to see Angel taking Connor's cot down was heartbreaking but showed he is moving on and coping with the situation. It was a truly sad scene.

    Double Or Nothing is an average episode with some good emotional scenes to keep it interesting. It's placement in the season leaves a lot to be desired though- this should have been done at an earlier stage.moreless

  • Double or Nothing

    8.5
    "Great"
    By TrueTvWatcher, Dec 15, 2010
    Double or Nothing was a really great episode of Angel. This episode shows the return of Cordelia and Groo, as Gunn and Fred grow closer together triggering the collection of a payment Gunn owes to a powerful demon from years ago. I thought that Cordelia consoling Angel was touching and the Gunn story line was a nice side track from the main story line of the season. Fred visits Wesley one last time to drop off his things and warn him to never return. I thought this was a heart breaking moment for him and for Fred, as she said it was all for nothing. I can't wait to watch the next episode!!!!!moreless
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    • At approximately 20 minutes and 20 seconds from the beginning of the episode, a quick scene of L.A. is shot from an helicopter. The wide angle used was too wide for the filter (probably a polarizer or a UV) and therefore on the side we can see some serious vignetting (the dark marks around the corners).

    • At one point when Cordelia is comforting Angel about Connor, she tells him that he will "go on living." She is technically incorrect, for Angel is not alive.

    • Watch the sandwich Cordy is holding when she talks with Gunn. It's sticking partway out of the bag before she sits down, but jumps back all the way into the bag after she sits down.

    • When Cordy is talking to Angel after the second commercial break, there is a lot of serious mismatched lip synching between her on-screen dialogue and her lip movement.

    • When Fred is talking about how Gunn broke up with her, watch Angel. His head is up and back until the shot switches and his head instantaneously is bowed down.

    • Much confusion about what the deal was that Gunn cut. Jenoff says that he wants Gunn's "future", but later refers to his "soul" - they wouldn't appear to be one and the same. Also, Jenoff refers to Gunn "mortgaging" his future, which suggests Gunn could repay the debt. Later he says Gunn "traded" his soul, which makes a little more sense but is inconsistent with the dialogue in the flashback.

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    • Cordelia: I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I know what you're going through, or that I could begin to understand what it is you're feeling. The last thing you need right now is someone saying that given time, things will get better. The hurt will go away. Because things won't get better. And the hurt is never going to go away. The truth is, if you lived another two hundred years, you'd never forget how Connor was taken from you. And you shouldn't. You loved your son, Angel. And you're going to go on loving him. And missing him. And you'll go on living. You'll do that, too. Angel: I don't know how. Cordelia: You don't need to. The "how" works itself out. Life will just keeping happening. There will be people who need our help -- and so we'll help them. 'Cause that's what we do.

    • Angel: I think he was going to be left-handed. The way he would hold on to your fingers? His left hand always squeezed just a little bit tighter. Kid had a grip. He was going to be a south paw for sure. When you live as long as I do, you eventually lose everyone. I'm not saying you get used to it but you expect it. You deal. But he was just... He was just a little... You think you know something about living because you have this really long life. And that's really all we have, I mean, in my case anyway. And one day you wake up, and you have something else. Cordy: A future. Angel: I had a son.

    • Fred: Pancake kiss!

    • Fred: The prophecy was false. Angel was never going to hurt Connor. It was all for nothing.

    • Gunn: Man! You hear those two? Fred: It's beautiful. All that time and they're still in love. The way they finish each other's insults.

    • Gunn: So, Skenches. I've heard about them. Sort of impish kind of demon - like a leprechaun. Syd: Leprechauns don't exist, son. Monica: Now, Syd, don't embarrass the lad. Syd: Oh. Sorry kid.

    • Fred: Oh Charles, your soul wasn't worth air conditioning?

    • Gunn: (about the demon's lair) Smells like old people in he- (demon spews out mucus) here! Gross! (looks at demon) Okay, so not a leprachaun.

    • Angel: (To Fred) Wait, let me get this straight. You and Gunn are dating?

    • Angel: If I lose (hands Cordy a stake) you know what to do. Make it quick. Cordy: You know I will.

    • Fred: Oh my god, Charles, do you have leukemia?

    • Fred: There's another woman, isn't there? What's her name? Gunn: Her name is I'm a real woman, not a stick figure, get the picture?

    • Groo: He is very fortunate to have such a woman looking after his weapon. Lorne: I'm not touching that one!

    • Cordy: (surrounded by demons) Angel! Angel: I know. Groo: We are surrounded! Angel: I know! Fred: We have to save Charles! Angel: I Know!

    • Groo: Hail to you potential client! How may I be of service?

    • Gunn: I thought getting rid of Skenches was pretty easy, though. Don't you just lop off its head? Sid: Sure, if you can avoid the phlegm! Monica: Sid has a phobia about phlegm. Sid: I do not. I have a phobia about sputum!

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    • Jenoff: We keep a close eye on the Akashic records
      Wiccanism - A hall of records about every soul's life, magick, healing and spirituality. This hall exists on a psychic level, and can be accessed through a visualization journey in the mind.

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