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|While I think both shows are wonderful--two of the best ever done--I feel that what gives Buffy the edge is that it has so many more stand-alone ridiculously good experimental episodes. Buffy has Hush, The Body, and Once More, With Feeling, all three of which were highly experimental and highly successful in the endeavor. The only one I can think of on Angel that is sort of similar is Waiting in the Wings. Now, I haven't watched Angel as many times through as I've watched Buffy, so perhaps there are more that I'm just not thinking of, but I think that gives Buffy the slight edge.|
Angel has some pretty experimental episodes too, both in content and narrative format. Waiting In The Wings, Spin The Bottle, Smile Time, Soul Purpose etc, some equally experimental and successful episodes. Soul Purpose, by the way, is completely underrated.
Personally I do agree that it all depends on tastes and that neither show is better than the other. My favorite was Angel. I identified more with Angel than Buffy. Buffy was like the teen show; Angel was more of an adult show. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Buffy too, but it was never as captivating to me as Angel was, probably because the adult/teen aspect diverged them into two very unique shows. To me, Angel felt more meaningful, introspective, action-packed etc. Characters on both shows gradually became very introspective and complex, though personally I gravitated towards the Angel characters of course. Sometimes I felt like Buffy was a chore to watch; other times it was as addictive as watching Angel (Im sure Buffy fans have the opposite experience). Even though I enjoyed and preferred Angel more, I have to say that Buffy and Angel should be considered absolute equals. But man, it is heartbreaking for an Angel fan to see those polls, because Firefly and Buffy always beat Angel when I always feel like each one should take 33% =/
Firefly and Buffy always beat Angel when I always feel like each one should take 33% =/
|I love both, although this thread is like debating Doctor Who and Torchwood. |
I detest the entire Jasmine plot line and I don't like this concept that TPTB have been planning everything. That annoys me. The only things I liked about S4 was Wes/Lilah and Connor. I also HATE what they did to Cordelia. I can't tell where she stopped being the Cordy we know and love. They just tampered with her so much that by the time she died, she barely even existed to me anymore.
I own Buffy Seasons 1-3 on DVD. I own the entire Angel Series (and before they released the Complete Series Box set, I owned 4 and 5. I also own a second copy of one, because Disc 1 of my complete Box set malfunctioned and I NEEDED that Spike episode). Further, I have absolutely no plans to purchase any of the remaining Buffy Seasons (I gave some thoughts to Season 7, because I absolutely loved Caleb, but passed on it. I also had Season 6 for a time, because Xander saving the world was big, to me, but would sell it back to scrounge up money for the Angel set).
Yeah, I prefer Angel and its not very close. Buffy lost A LOT when it graduated high school (not to mention the cast members that moved to Angel), IMO. While certainly there were stand-out episodes in the later seasons of Buffy, on the whole, none of the seasons or their overall arcs did a lot for me. Meanwhile, Angel finds its groove late in Season 1 and maintains a ridiculously high consistency to the end. While I certainly understand a lot of people's problems with Season 4, I'm not bothered by them and I found Season 4 to be a remarkable season and ride, probably only topped by the last leg of Season 5. The Battle between The Beast and Angel Inc from Apacalypse Nowish is probably one of my favorite things I've seen on TV. Season 5 takes a while to find its footing, but the last leg was, again, remarkable.
Its funny, too. On their initial runs, I lasted a lot longer with Buffy than Angel. Initially Angel lost me when they killed Doyle. I stuck with Buffy into Season 5, before losing interest, and Buffy would draw me in again at the ends of Season 6 and 7. It wasn't until syndication and being able to watch Angel on a day to day basis that I really got hooked in.
Im sorry to be sexist here but Angel was better to watch and Better for guys to watch. Buffy was good at times but it got girlie. Aspecially From season 4 With Tara and willlow, and Dawn. you just got aloud of teen girlie issues and vampire fighting.
With Angel it was more serious and darker. it had better stories and character building. Stories with Doyle and his death, Wesley Kidnapping Conner and got darker, Angel and Conner, Cordelia, Fred and Gunn in season 5. Buffy may had some Character building but I only really saw it from Buffy and Spike in last few seasons.
Angel was better for story wise and seriousness.