Season 3 Episode 5


Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Oct 22, 2001 on The WB
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Fred's parents make a surprise visit to Angel Investigations. However, rather than being happy to see them Fred seems terrified and flees the scene. Not trusting Mr. and Mrs. Burkle, the gang prepares to protect Fred from them---providing she can be found. Meanwhile, a strange, insectile demon stalks the crew.moreless

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  • Have you met the Burkles?


    The Good;

    Wonderful acting by AA when Fred's finally reunited with her parents. CC and Wes' Buffy/Angel show is FANTASTIC! A good ep all around. The scene where Fred calms herself at the bus station by reciting Pi and the crazy looking homeless guy moves away from HER is the funniest scene in all of Angel and may be my favourite Angel scene ever.

    The Bad;

    Bit of a reach that they just let the bugs go?

    Best line:

    Fred; (when reunited with her parents) "I didn't mean to get so lost, I'm sorry I got so lost" (tears me up every time)

    Apocalypses: 5

    Angel Cliches

    Inverting the Hollywood cliche;

    Bugs ain't evil and neither really is the demon Angel kills, just driven mad by the eggs in it's skull. We think Fred's parents are evil but they're not. They're also able to accept AI's rather odd lifestyle

    In disguise; 8

    DB get's his shirt off;


    Cheap Angel; 7

    Fang Gang in bondage:

    Cordy: 5

    Angel: 11

    Wes: 6

    Gunn; 3

    Lorne; 2

    Fang gang knocked out:

    Cordy: 11

    Angel: 14

    Wes: 5

    Doyle; 1

    Gunn; 1

    Lorne; 2

    Kills: chalk up one demon bug for Fred's mum and one demon for Angel

    Cordy: 5 vamps, 3 demons

    Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans

    Doyle; 1 vamp

    Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp

    Kate; 3 vamps

    Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.

    Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons.

    Fang Gang go evil:

    Cordy: 2

    Angel: 2

    Alternate Fang Gang:

    Cordy: 2

    Angel: 7

    Characters killed:


    Recurring characters killed;


    Total number of Angel Investigations:

    5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred

    Angel Investigations shot:

    Angel: 11

    Wes; 1

    Packing heat;

    Wes; 3

    Doyle; 1

    Angel; 1

    Gunn; 1

    Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:

    Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis

    Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies

    Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde

    Kinky dinky:

    Fred's mum asks if Fred is making 'movies', LA's porn industry probably bigger than it's tourism, film and music combined. Check out CCs fishnets. She seems to revel in playing nurse for the gang and later tells Angel she could 'soothe his ass off'.

    Captain Subtext;

    Lorne wears eyeliner which Fred's dad says men from Texas tend not to do (never been to a 'Gay Rodeo'?).

    Know the face, different character; 3

    Parking garages;


    Buffy characters on Angel; 16

    Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

    Questions and observations;

    A nice ep with Fred now part of the gang more than ever. AI are in awe of the PI the Burkle's hire who can find Fred with only a letter to go on. The Alien films are referred to with JW of course writing part 4. Fred's dad refers to Spiro Agnew who was Nixon's vice president (he was caught up in a corruption scandal before Watergate which is why Gerald Ford, the speaker of the house becomes President following Tricky Dickie's resignation). Famously his name is an anagram of 'grow a penis'. Angel likes ice cream, weird I thought he couldn't enjoy normal food. Lorne smokes and is still bitter about what Gunn's friends did to his bar. Fred considers going to Vegas for a new job, well one day she will. Angel likes golf and apparently watched the Bob Hope Desert Classic which was presumably played in Vegas. In the daytime? Wes' talk of his own parents puts Lineage into perspective.

    Marks out of 10; 7/10 a funny and touching romp before we get down to the more serious stuff of season 3

  • Fredless

    Fredless was a really great episode focusing on Fred. I thought it was a great concept to have her parents arrive looking for her. I enjoyed watching this episode as we learned more about Fred, and the gang in relation to her. The episode was filled with classic humor, action, mystery and drama. Fred realizes where she belongs and is welcomed to stay at Angel Investigations, and I am happy to know we get to see more of her. The writers are very creative with how they entwine stories together. The directors have a great vision, while the actors play their parts perfectly. I can't wait to watch what happens next!!!!!moreless
  • Fred's parents arrive in L.A.

    Fredless is a nice, touching episode with some hilarious moments and a heartbreaking performance by the incredible Amy Acker. It finished off the Crazy-Fred subplot and lets her real character come through.

    The demon-crystal storyline was a bit dull but it was necessary to the plot so Fred could stay in L.A. I think the bug demons looked actually very good but I don't who was working the camera when they were on screen, as they seemed to stutter and freeze alot, which is quite irritating. Thankfully, it takes a small role in the episode and isn't focused on, leaving more time for the excellent character-based plot going on.

    Fred was more likeable in this episode than she's ever been and I'm so glad she stayed in L.A. as she evolves into an amazing character, eventually becoming the heart of the group after Cordelia falls into a coma and then proceeds to become Illyria. Her breakdown was heart-wrenching and in some crazy way, it made sense. It made her experience in Pylea seem more real and you truly felt for her. Amy Acker was simply outstanding in this scene and she can do emotional scenes so well and makes the character of Fred more loveable. It's not easy to cry on cue just like that but she managed it excellently and is up there with the top actresses in the 'verse. I also liked the nice scene at the end where she paints over her picture of Angel saving her, finally putting her Pylea experience behind her and moving on, and realizing she has a place on the time- she's smart but a different kind of smart from Wesley.

    Roger and Trish Burkle are good characters and the only parents to be seen more than once in the entire verse (excluding Joyce Summers of course). At the start of the episode, I was creeped out by them, as the storyline made it seem like they were abusive, due to Fred's fear of them. After her breakdown however, I felt they grounded the characters and fitted in perfectly with the group. This episode reminds me a lot of the scenes in "The Girl In Question" where Illyria masquerades as Fred to stop them finding out that Fred is dead.

    I like that the gang actually did miss Fred when she left as I was wondering how'd they feel without her but as shown, they did miss her when she'd gone. This episode subtly hints at Wesley's feelings for Fred when he excitedly votes her to stay. The episode also has some nice Cordy/Angel moments as well, showing their growing attraction to one another.

    Finally, the Wesley/Cordy scene where they pretend to be Buffy and Angel was one of the funniest moments of the series. It seriously brightened this episode up even more.

    Fredless is a heartwarming episode that focuses on the least explored member of the group and finally finished the Crazy-Fred arc.moreless
  • Dr. Suess' Frighten Fred and Eggs In Your Head

    Fredless-Fred's parents make a surprise visit to Angel Investigations. However, rather than being happy to see them Fred seems terrified and flees the scene. Not trusting Mr. and Mrs. Burkle, the gang prepares to protect Fred from them---providing she can be found. Meanwhile, a strange, insectile demon stalks the crew.

    A nice filler with a weak plot but a heartbreaking performance from the Fang Gang's newest member, Fred. Amy Acker really sets her place on this show and show some of her impressive acting skills. You are completely convinced about Fred's fear of seeing her parents and revelation why she's running is so touching. Fred's parents make for an interesting characters, especially when Fred's mom runs over that big bug demon. Speacking of the bug demons, they were disgusting looking, too bad that plot went stale and some scenes dragged. All and All, a decent episode with a stand out performance from Amy Acker who is becoming a fine new cast member.moreless
  • Fred decides to stay in LA, and I'm actually glad to hear it. Until this episode, I really wished they had left her in Pylea.

    Cordelia finally explains to Fred that Angel can't be anything more than friends with her. I didn't much expect to like this episode, thinking it was going to be cliche as Fred's parents come for her, and we are led to believe they are evil or something is wrong. However, I liked that her parents were so loving and concerned about her. She definitely undergoes a transistion as she comes to terms with what happened in Pylea and works to put it behind her. Going forward she's a much more interesting and stronger character. Until "Fredless" I really wished they had left her in Pylea.

    Favorite Scene: This episode has the clas-sic scene where Cordelia and Wesley act out Angel's reunion with the now resurrected Buffy, possibly one of the funniest scenes in the entire 5 seasons of Angel.

    Cordelia (as Buffy): "Oh - Angel! I know that I'm a Slayer and you a vampire - and it would be *impossible* for us to *be* together - *but!*

    Wesley (as Angel): "But my gypsy curse sometimes prevents me from seeing the truth. Oh, Buffy!"

    Cordelia : "Yes, Angel?"

    Wesley : "Oh, I love you so much I almost forgot to *brood*"

    Cordelia : "And just because I sent you to hell that one time doesn't mean that we can't just be friends."

    Wesley grabs a hold of Cordy's wrist.

    Cordelia : "Oh!"

    Wesley : "Or possibly more."

    Cordelia gasps: "Gasp! No! We mustn't."

    Wesley pulls Cordy close.

    Wesley : "Kiss me."

    Cordelia : "Bite me!"

    Wesley bends Cordy back over his arm and pretends to sink his fangs into her neck.

    Angel (off screen): "How about you both bite me."moreless

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (2)

    • When Fred's mother hits the giant bug creature with a bus, Angel has lost his breath because he almost got hit. Angel is a vampire thus he shouldn't breath.

    • When Angel is holding the severed head and claiming it's a prop, you can see the blood puddling beneath him. In the next shot when he tosses it away, the puddle is gone without a trace.

  • QUOTES (25)

    • Fred: This has been the best night ever. First, there's you taking me to ice cream, then there's the ice cream, then that monster jumps out of the freezer and you're all brave and, "Fred, watch out!," and then we get to chase it down into the sewers which are just so bleak and oppressive and homey. I-I could build a condo down here.
      Angel: Well, I'm glad you're having fun.

    • Angel: So where do we start? Where would Fred go?
      Gunn: We could hit all the local taco stands. Joke. Kind of.

    • Wesley: (to Fred's father) Angel is a vampire, but he has a soul. Long story. I'll explain if we live.

    • Cordy: But, Angel, we're your friends, and and it's not healthy to repress stuff like this. You need to share your pain, express those feelings of grief and longing or... the curiosity is gonna kill me!
      Angel: Oh, no. Wouldn't want that.
      Fred: Personally, I don't care at all what happened.
      Cordy: Shut up, Fred.
      Angel: Actually, you know what I need right now? Ice cream. (to Fred) You wanna get some ice cream?
      Fred: I like ice cream.
      (Angel and Fred walk off together)
      Cordy: Now we'll never ever know.
      Angel: (offscreen) That's right.

    • Cordelia: Voila! That's French for 'I think we stopped the bleeding'.
      Fred: Thanks, Cordelia.
      Cordelia: Next up, Multiple stab wounds. Angel!
      Angel: Uhh! It's my turn! Oh, yay!
      Cordelia: What a dork.

    • Lorne: Well, isn't this a lovely surprise.
      Cordelia: He's surprised. I didn't think he owned terry cloth.

    • Cordy: In a really weird way, you know who I miss?
      Wes: Fred.
      Cordy: Actually I was gonna say her parents. Is that wrong?
      Angel: I don't think so. They were very - nice.
      Cordy: Nice? They weren't just nice, Angel. They were...
      Gunn: Parents.
      Wes: They loved her, supported her, didn't grind her down into a - tiny self-conscious nub with their constant berating, their never ending tirade of debasement, and scorn and...

    • Angel: (on his cell phone, trying to find Fred) What? No. You? Oh! You mean the place where she would go for help and guidance! And we call ourselves detectives.

    • Gunn: (about Trish) Lady makes bug soup with a 2 ton bus, but a papier-mâché head scares her.
      Angel: Gunn, you do know that's not papier-mâché.
      (Gunn quickly drops head.)
      Gunn: Y'all still got that bleach in the bathroom?

    • Cordy: Lemme break it down for you, Fred. (imitating Buffy) Oh, Angel. I know that I am a Slayer, and you're a vampire and it would be impossible for us to be together, but --
      Wesley: (imitating Angel) But... my gypsy curse, sometimes prevent me from seeing the truth. Oh Buffy...
      Cordy: Yes, Angel?
      Wesley: I love you so much I almost forgot to brood.
      Cordy: And just because I sent you to Hell that one time doesn't mean that we can't just be friends.
      Wesley: Or possibly more?
      Cordy: Gasp! No! We mustn't!
      Wesley: Kiss me!
      Cordy: Bite me!
      Angel: (entering) How 'bout you both bite me?
      Fred: You're back!
      Gunn: How'd it go?
      Angel: I think those two pretty much summed it up.

    • Cordelia: (on Fred's invention) God, I really wish she wouldn't leave her toys laying around.
      Gunn: Oh, pretty wicked looking toy.
      Wesley: I'll say. It almost looks like a spring-loaded decapitation device.
      Cordelia: Or it makes toast. With her you never know.

    • Fred: Oh, no. Was there another massacre?
      Lorne: Oh, no, no. Just the one. But it turns out massacres are a lot like sitting through Godfather 3, once is enough.

    • Roger: And to think, we were wondering when to call the cops on a bunch of superheroes!
      Angel: Oh, I'm not really a hero.
      Gunn: More like a bloodsucking fiend.

    • Trish: (about Angel saving Fred) He seems to do that a lot, doesn't he?
      Fred: It's what he does. Angel's the champion, and Wesley's the brains of the operation, Gunn's the muscle and Cordy's the heart, and I'm...

    • Fred: I belong here. (turns to the gang) Un-unless I don't. Which if - if you all don't wanna put up with me, I completely understand...
      Wes: Lets put it to a vote, shall we? All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passed. Good. You're staying.

    • Lorne: Hmm. Such a small entourage tonight. Hey, Gunn, why didn't you bring your other friends? 'Cause they make a party.
      Gunn: Maybe I should wait outside.
      Lorne: You know, I'm not entirely uncomfortable with that suggestion.

    • (Looks at writing on the walls in Fred's room.)
      Angel: Are you gonna remember everything that's up there?
      Fred: Well, sure. It's a story. Once upon a time, there was a girl who lived all alone in a horrible cave - so far from home it made her chest hurt. And every day in that horrible cave, the girl tried to figure out a way to escape. None of her plans ever succeeded, of course and she'd almost given up hopin' when one day, just like in a fairy tale, a handsome man rode up on a horse and saved her, and took her back to his castle. Now you'd think that was the end, wouldn'tcha? Dumb old fairy tales and their happily ever afters. But see, the minute they got back to the castle, the handsome man went away again. And even though she didn't mean to - didn't want to - high up in that castle the girl just built herself another cave, hoping he would save her again. (to Angel) But you can't save me this time, can you?

    • Cordelia: (whispers to Fred) Between you and me, I'm almost a little jealous.

    • Angel: Look Lorne, I'm sorry about the bar, but right now Fred is missing, and we need your help.
      Lorne: Oh really? Yeah, well, I am not some mystical vending machine, here to spit out answers every time you waltz in with a problem. I have a heart. Granted, it's located in my left butt cheek, but it's still a heart, and that heart is broken. I mean, why is it nobody ever cares about my destiny? Everyone who walks through that door is all about "me, me, me" - well what about my me? My me's important!

    • Fred: (talking obliquely about Buffy) So, now that she's alive again are they gonna get back together? Angel and that girl with the goofy name?
      Wesley: Well, Fred, that's a difficult question. I think it's fair to say... No. Not a chance, never, no way, not in a million years, and also, nuh-uh.

    • Angel: (talking about Fred) I'm gonna miss her. She was just this nice, quiet, kind of crazy. I found that soothing.
      Cordy: And what, I'm not soothing? I can be soothing. I could soothe your ass off, pal.

    • Roger: Now, Spiro Agnew, I know he was a...
      Angel: Grathnar demon! You knew that? I thought I was the only one that knew that!

    • Roger: Well, frankly, Angel, I don't care if you drink pig's blood, cow's blood, or those froofy little imported beers. You saved my little girl.

    • Wesley: Y'know, back in my days as a rogue demon hunter, I once used that very spear to pin down what I thought was a small Rodentius demon. Of course, the poodle's owners weren't very happy.

    • Cordy: (talking about Angel) Fred can barely tie her shoes without Mr. Oh-You're-My-Big-Fat-Hero, around.
      Angel: You think I'm fat?

  • NOTES (3)

    • In an earlier version of the script, Fred's family was a little bigger.
      Trish: I take it Fred's never mentioned us?
      Cordelia: Oh, sure she does, all the time. Let's see...there was a mother and...a father and...possibly a sibling?
      Trish: Two brothers and a sister.
      Cordelia: Three siblings! Yes! A trio of siblings that Fred has mentioned to us.

    • Buffy and Angel had their reunion off-screen due to the new tension between networks.

    • This marks the first time a main character's name is used in the episode title.


    • Lorne: It turns out massacres are a lot like sitting through Godfather III: once is enough.
      Lorne refers to arguably the least popular film in the Godfather trilogy.

    • Angel: Durslar Beasts are pretty Faulknerian. Lotta sound, no fury.
      Angel compares the demon to the book The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner.

    • Trish: I mean, Rog's always had a thing for those disgusting Alien movies, all the slime and teeth. Ugh, he just can't get enough of them. Except for that last one they made - I think he dozed off.
      A reference to the four Alien movies. Also an in-joke jab at Joss Whedon, who was credited as co-writing the fourth movie, Alien: Resurrection, though his script was extensively rewritten. Many fans consider the fourth movie the worst of the lot.

    • Lorne: Figures, right when Judge Judy's gonna lay the smack down.

      Judge Judy is a popular TV personality who has her own syndicated court show. She's considered to be extremely harsh in her judgments and how she deals with people.