Season 2 Episode 11


Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Jan 16, 2001 on The WB
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Episode Summary

After firing his staff and cutting himself off from all help, Angel begins intense physical and mental training to become strong enough to stop Darla and Drusilla before they destroy the City of Angels. Meanwhile, Cordelia, Wesley, and Gunn try to continue the good fight on their own now that Angel has abandoned the cause.moreless

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  • Angel goes Punisher


    The Good;

    Angel goes Punisher, as extra-crispy Darla says "Who the hell was THAT?". Plus "We are the champions..."

    The Bad;

    Darla and Dru seem to spend an awful lot of time on fire, other vamps vaporise much quicker.

    Best line:

    Dru "Galloping, galloping still he'll come!"

    Jeez, how did they get away with that?

    The ears gag, funny but hooooo....!

    Apocalypses: 4

    Angel Cliches

    Damsel in distress; 17

    In disguise; 7

    DB get's his shirt off; not topless but some vest action


    Cordy's tattoo;3

    Cheap Angel;


    Fang Gang in bondage:

    Cordy: 5

    Angel: 8

    Wes: 3

    Fang gang knocked out:

    Cordy: 10

    Angel: 12

    Wes: 5

    Doyle; 1

    Gunn; 1

    Kills: 4 vamps and 12 demons for Angel really racking them up. I demon for Gunn

    Cordy: 5 vamps, 1 demons

    Angel; 22 vamps, 31 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans,

    Doyle; 1 vamp

    Wes; 1/2 a demon

    Kate; 3 vamps

    Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.

    Gunn; 5 vamps+ 2 demons.

    Fang Gang go evil:

    Cordy: 2

    Angel: 2

    Alternate Fang Gang:

    Cordy: 2

    Angel: 6

    Characters killed:


    Recurring characters killed;


    Total number of Angel Investigations: 1 or 3 depending on which way you look at it?

    4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn

    Angel Investigations shot:

    Angel: 10

    Packing heat;

    Wes; 2

    Doyle; 1

    Angel; 1

    Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:

    Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast

    Angel: 1;Buffy

    Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde

    Kinky dinky:

    Gunn says Angel is 'going Commando', does he mean the action film or without underwear? Dru and Darla are looking for 'muscular slaves'. I know a few people who'd gladly volunteer. Once again Dru wants Angel to punish them for being naughty, she likes the idea of flogging but not of churches.

    Captain Subtext;

    Is the attraction between Lindsey and Darla real? Dru seems to like Lilah. Wes denies that his arse is 'pansy'.

    Know the face, different character; 2

    Parking garages;


    Guantanamo Bay;

    Poor old Merl get waterboarded

    Buffy characters on Angel; 13

    Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master

    Questions and observations;

    Virginia's back, hooray! Wes intends to sing Cat Stevens, I'm guessing 'Morning has Broken' rather than 'Father and Son' or 'The First Cut is the Deepest'. In the end they pick Queen, good choice. Darla wonders why people always assume a man has to be involved in a woman's business? Angel smokes again.

    Marks out of 10; 8/10

  • Redefinition

    Redefinition was a perfect and defining episode of Angel. This episode see's Angel take his personal battle with Darla and Druscilla and make it his only focus. Meanwhile the rest of the gang don't know what to do with themselves after Angel fired them. This was an interesting exploration into how the characters would handle such a situation. I really enjoyed Angel's narrations as he trained to be ready to fight Darla and Druscilla. I also thought it was classic having the Gang sing kareoke to find their way. There were some dramatic scenes involving Lindsey and Lila which had some surprising results. I can't wait to find out what will happen next!!!!!!!moreless
  • Angel seeks to destroy Darla and Drusilla, whilst Cordelia, Wesley and Gunn cope with their job loss.

    Redefinition is an excellent, character based episode. A lot of the episodes of this season so far have been about the storyline and characters rather than action and this is no different. Each character has to redefine themselves in this episode- with mixed results.

    Angel becomes solely dedicated to stopping Darla and Drusilla from destroying the City of Angels and spends most of this episode in self reflection- he's cutting away from every tie that bound him to humanity- Cordelia, Wesley, Gunn, even small things like sleeping in soft beds- he's becoming cold on the inside, and it seems he will stop and nothing to destory Darla and Drusilla and W&H. The shock of losing Darla and coping with her death is too much for him- Darla was in many ways a parallel to him and he felt that if she could achieve redemption, he could too. But W&H stepped him and she was lost to evil again- and in the process so was Angel's will to help the helpless. He isn't intersted in helping people anymore.

    Cordy, Wesley and Gunn have to cope with the loss of their job. This episode revealed a startling point about Gunn- he cared alot about his job for Angel. I thought it WAS just a sidegig for him but seemingly not. Cordelia and Wesley are lost without their jobs- they feel like they have no place in this world and seek Lorne to help them find answers. Their scenes in Caritas were a welcome break from the darkness of other scenes- they were light and fun and made me smile. Their decision to carry on with the agency was the right move I think- they are not becoming cold inside like Angel but are still burning with the need to help others- it is their priority and they prove to make a strong team when they singlehandedly kill the demon- showing they can do the job without Angel.

    Darla seeks to prove she is her own person- that she isn't defined by Angel and doesn't need nor want him but as Drusilla possesses the sight, she can see through this farce. Darla loves Angel and it is proved when she gets angry at the demon ring with Drusilla- she doesn't want to hear these things, she wants to be without her feelings but she can't forget about what Angel did for her when she was human- of how he cared for her. Her feelings are shown in the one word- "Angel..". Her face clearly proves she still wants him and her words won't change that. The last scene is the only really time we see Darla get worried - she recognizes that Angel isn't Angel anymore- but he's not Angelus either.

    Redefinition was a standout episode- it's about the characters and for once Cordy, Wesley and Gunn weren't pushed aside- they were the main story of the episode. A truly excellent episode.moreless
  • "We are the champions!"

    After being fired by Angel, Cordelia, Gunn and Wesley struggle to find what to do with their lives. Lindsey and Lilah are the only survivors of Darla and Drusilla's massacre, but they fear the senior partners might be looking for someone to blame and by someone they think them. Darla and Drusilla try to round up followers for their campaign to rule the city while Angel prepares him self to take them on.

    David Boreanaz has a lot of talent when it comes to voice overs. Just like in the Buffy episode Passion his voice overs really intensified the episode. I also liked that, other then his voice overs, Angel had no lines throughout the episode. It really helped to create the Dark and solitary Angel character. Gunn, Wesley and Cordelia were really enjoyable in this episode. From there bickering to their singing karaoke, they bought the entertainment to a dark episode, well them and Drusilla. I felt sorry for her and Darla at the end. yes I know they're the evil but evil or not, no one deserves to be set on fire. I enjoyed the Lindsey and Lilah storyline, for once. They were very enjoyable throughout the episode and I liked the end result, their faces were classic.

    An extremely good episode.moreless
  • Angel struggles after firing his team.

    This episode is a little slow moving, but good all the same. Wes, Cordy and Gunn shine as a trio and the scenes in the bar are both touching and hilarious at the same time. It's nice to see them all coming together and Gunn really molds well into the group. And any appearance of th host is great. I'm not the biggest fan of Angel's voice overs because they are a tad melodramatic, but they explain his struggle well. Darla and Dru are great in this episode and when Angel tries to light them on fire, he looks so hot and bothered it is great. All in all a good episode.moreless
Brigid Brannagh

Brigid Brannagh


Guest Star

Nicolas Surovy

Nicolas Surovy

Hunt Acrey

Guest Star

Joel Stoffer

Joel Stoffer

Vampire #1

Guest Star

Andy Hallett

Andy Hallett

Caritas Host

Recurring Role

Julie Benz

Julie Benz


Recurring Role

Stephanie Romanov

Stephanie Romanov

Lilah Morgan

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (8)

    • In both Buffy and Angel, whenever someone decapitates a vampire, they turn to dust and leave no blood on the weapon, yet when Angel is in the sewers and ambushes the vampire group, the last one he decapitates and for a split second you see blood on the blade when there shouldn't be any.

    • When Drusilla and Darla are fleeing the warehouse on fire to break open the fire hydrant, it is apparent from their hair that both of them are already wet.

    • When Drusilla and Darla are set ablaze by Angel, Drusilla's form-fitting sweater suddenly becomes really baggy.

    • In many episodes of Buffy and Angel they have stated that fire kills vampires. Darla and Drusilla should have turned to ash quickly and not have had time to run and put themselves out.

    • When Angel is walking down the stairs at the hotel you can see his reflection in the glass door.

    • In previous Angel and Buffy episodes, Angel's angel tattoo was low on his shoulder blade, but in the closing scene, it's high on his shoulder.

    • Where did Angel get the hooded sweatshirt he wore to the club? When he left the sewers en route all he had was a black pullover sweater.

    • In previous episodes Merl has stated he doesn't have a tongue. When Angel hangs him upside down you can clearly see the actor's tongue.

  • QUOTES (26)

    • Wesley: We need to get her to a hospital.
      Gunn: What about you?
      Wesley: Oh, I'm fine. It's just... (looks at wound) We should go before I pass out... or possibly during.

    • Drusilla: My little bird is anxious.
      Darla: Yeah, well, recruiting a legion of demons is stressful, Dru.

    • Merl: I heard about your girls-- Godzilla, Darcilla, whatever.

    • Lindsey: Why'd you spare me Darla?
      Darla: Do you really have to ask? I'm in love with you.
      (Darla, Drusilla, and Lilah all laugh)
      Darla: Shut up, Lilah.
      Drusilla: Shh!

    • Virginia: He fired you? He can't fire you. You're on a mission to protect the innocent. You can't fire someone on a mission. What did he say exactly?
      Wesley: "You're fired."
      Virginia: Oh. Well, can you file a grievance with the union?
      Wesley: Virginia, I'm not in a union. I'm a... I don't even know what the name of my job is. Was.

    • Angel: (voice over) I'm not ready yet. Too many years spent sleeping in soft beds, living in a world where I don't belong. I can't fight them. Not yet. But soon.

    • Drusilla: Dank and dark. It reeks of death.
      Darla: That's motor oil, Dru.

    • Gunn: I don't know. I mean if I had to listen to the two of you day in and day out. Snipe snipe snipe. Bitch bitch bitch. I figure y'all got off easy, 'cause I would have killed you.
      Cordelia: That's rich, coming from Mr. "I don't take orders, now where do I stick my axe?"

    • Darla: Why is everyone trying to make this about Angel? I mean, for God's sake, can't a girl wreak a little havoc without there being a man involved?

    • Wesley: I just thought you'd like to know that we're keeping the agency open. You may have turned your back on your mission but we haven't. Someone has to fight the good fight.
      Angel: (voice over) Let them fight the good fight. Someone has to fight the war.

    • Virginia: Well, his loss is the world's gain. You'll get another job (snaps fingers) just like that! What else can you do?
      Wesley: (thinks long and hard) Not much.

    • Virginia: You know what it is? He's jealous.
      Wesley: Your father?
      Virginia: No, Angel! You had to impersonate him to rescue me, and you were too good an Angel!
      Wesley: ...I don't think so.

    • Lilah: Oh, what's wrong, Lindsey? You bitter 'cause your girlfriend didn't slit my throat?
      Lindsey: I think you might be overstating it. I'd say more like "bummed."

    • Gunn: What about you? Maybe if you had enough visions then Angel would have been too distracted to think about this Darla chick, huh?
      Cordelia: Earth to retards! If you have an obsession, you pretty much squeeze it into your schedule no matter what!!
      Wesley: Ah! So you admit it is an obsession.
      Corderlia: No... I mean, yes, but no!
      Wesley: Hypocrite.
      Cordelia: Ass pansy!

    • Cordelia: What just happened? Can someone explain to me what just happened here?
      Wesley: I believe we were fired.
      Gunn: Canned.
      Wesley: Let go.
      Gunn: Axed.
      Wesley: Shown the door.
      Gunn: Booted.
      Cordelia: Alright! I get it!

    • Drusilla: Dead already? Bad soldiers!

    • Drusilla: Ten little soldiers all in a line. A shot rings out – down to nine.

    • Darla: You know, in a perfect world, Angel would be here right now helping me burn this city to the ground. This is his job I'm doing. But where is he? Probably flogging himself in a church somewhere.
      Drusilla: Ooh, flogging. Ooh, churches.

    • Darla: My name is Darla. This is Drusilla. We're new in town, though some of you know us by reputation.
      Demon: I ain't never heard of you before.
      (Drusilla rips his ears off.)
      Darla: Now you never will.

    • Wesley: Bloody Mary, please.
      Bartender: You want real blood with that?
      Wesley: Uh, no. Bloodless, thanks.

    • Drusilla: (talking about Lindsey) He's got cow eyes - big and black. Moo.

    • Police Officer: You've just been through a very traumatic experience. Really, sir, you should be in a hospital.
      Lindsey: She saved me.
      Police Officer: That may be true, sir, but you should still be checked out by a doctor.
      Lindsey: There has to be a reason why I'm the only one left.
      Police Officer: You're in shock, you need to see a doctor.
      Lindsey: (smiling) I'm the only one left.
      Police Officer: Hey, we got a live one here.
      Lindsey: (disappointed) We do?!

    • Wesley: Well, how is a man supposed to run a business if his employees won't follow directives?
      Gunn: Was one of his directives, "Hire a pansy ass British guy"?
      Wesley: My ass is not pansy!

    • Darla: If you think you have what it takes to join us, auditions are tonight, here, at this address. Winners will have the opportunity to foment mass destruction. Losers will be gutted and left for dead. Have a nice night.

    • Darla: See, Lindsey, during my stint as Wolfram and Hart's puppet, something occurred to me. I loathe being used. If I recall, I sent you a fifteen-body memo to that effect.

    • Cordelia: One thing you can say about Angel, at least he's consistent. It's always some little blonde driving him over the edge.

  • NOTES (3)

    • Music:
      Sung by Lorne -- "Lady Marmalade" by Patti LaBelle

      Sung by Cordelia, Wesley, and Gunn -- "We Are the Champions" by Queen

    • Angel doesn't speak to anyone in this episode; only to himself for self-reflection.

    • Joss Whedon has said that this was the episode that changed and shaped all the character's personalities for the remainder of the series, basically rewriting them. Whedon himself did heavy rewriting on Mere Smith's draft of the script, but she was happy with the final result.