This is really the same series as All in the Family - they just happened to change the title at the beginning of this "series". You saw plenty of the bar before this series, and plenty of Archie's home life during this series. If you really want to pick an end point to split All in the Family, it should be the season before this series started, when the Stivics left. The season after that is more similar to this series than it was to the previous years of All in the Family.
Aren't "These Friends of Mine" and "Ellen" the same series? What about "Valerie's Family" and "The Hogan Family"? Then this and "All in the Family" are the same series.
Okay, first off this show absolutely pailed compared to "All in the Family"--but so does nearly every other sit-com series every made IMO (only "MASH", "The Odd Couple", and "Seinfeld" can compete with it).
But I think that if you're a fan of "All in the Family" you should at least give it a shot if you haven't already. And if you have and didn't like it..give it another shot if we're lucky to have TVLand air it again (c'mon TVLand do it, I've had enough of "Good Times"!)
The series begins over a year after Mike and Gloria have moved to California. And with the series largely focused on Archie's Bar, Edith is only seen in five episodes of the first series (Edith got another job working noon to eight P.M. which could explain her absence). The first year is largely Archie dealing with his new partner Murray, as well as old pals Harry (who's still tending bar), Barney, Hank, and Mr. Van Rensaleer. Interesting episodes but nothing really standing out, save for the Thanksgiving episode where Mike and Gloria and Joey come back for Thanksgiving dinner which of course is not the totally happy Holiday meal--and sadly the last time you see the Bunker family together.
Season two was somewhat a downer as it begins with us finding out that Archie is now a widower, Edith having passed on (off-camera) of a stroke in her sleep. Those first two episodes of "Archie Alone" are rather hard to watch if you've been with "All in the Family" during it's run. As I remember the TVGuide page ad: "Archie faces life without Edith. Can he survive?". So the rest of this season dealt more with that adaptation than with classic Bunker comedy. Other powerful episodes of that season included mouthy cook Veronica being overcome by alcoholism and Murray losing his mother and deciding to leave New York and "Archie Bunker's Place". But there was a moment of triumph as Archie suprisingly won custody of Stephanie over her wealthy grandmother.
But for me it's the third season that stood out. Archie seems to have recovered his old ignorant self--and almost loses the bar to his lousy management. In comes the Rabinowitz family (who's represented Archie since the third episode of "All in the Family") and his niece Barbara Lee "Billie" Bunker who moves into his house. Now while Archie is still without a "dingbat" and a "meathead" he's got two "little goils"! Add to that Mrs. Camby, the black housekeeper he hired earlier and Archie at times seems in fourth place when it comes to running his household. This is even more interesting as Stephanie is now entering adolescence, and is even celebrating her Bar Mitzvah. This two-part episode was another memorable point as Stephanie's wealthy grandmother and terminally pathetic father reappear. Oh and don't forget when Gloria and Joey return (without the Meathead) just before beginning their new life.
The fourth season though didn't capitalize on it's predecessor. Veronica and Mrs. Camby disappeared and the episodes simply seemed inferior. Archie had to deal with Stephanie wanting to go to an arts school and her experimenting with marijuana in episodes that had some interest. But other episodes that focused on Barney and his video dating and employment troubles didn't. Billie was still there but the rest of the cast, including and especially Archie himself, seemed worn out and the laughs seemed farther apart. And CBS pulled the plug.
While Carroll O'Connor was disgusted with CBS for the cancellation, I think it came at the right time. Okay you could've had Stephanie graduating and going on to college, and maybe Billie and the junior Rabinowitz always breaking up and getting back together and possibly marrying. But it's like "Hawaii Five-0" and "MASH". I think it got to the twelve-year mark (that is combining "All in the Family" and "Archie Bunker's Place") and CBS figured 'that's it' and like McGarrett and Hawkeye they had run their course with Archie Bunker; unfortunately there was no 'farewell episode'.
So to sum up I say yeah this series stinks in comparison to "All in the Family". But as an extension it's actually pretty good. I just wish I could get copies of the third season--seems the first season release on DVD didn't sell enough and going on almost two years there's no season two. Too bad, for me anyway. Enjoy.
I still watch All In The Family on T.V.LAND I would definately still watch Archies Place if it still came on! You can't get the funny risky kind of comedy that it was anymore, without having to watch vulgarity or just plaine nastiness.Carroll Oconner is the best.I would love to know if its ever coming out on DVD so I can buy it.
This Was a Show that was a spinoff of All In The Family but many people & I consider it apart of the series anyway when Edith died at the start of the second season even thou she wasnt a regular it started a downfall of the show
I belive this ran from 1979 till about 1983 but this was never as big of a hit as the All In The Family series it featured many new but medioaker caracters & when the "Dingbat" died at the start of Season 2 it was a episode that was good but turned the series in a wrong direction. I belive in the middle of the forth season the show was pulled marking the end of series
Archie Bunker is by far one of the funniest comical characters ever to air on television. All in the Faimly was pure gold but after Mike and Gloria left for California the show was terrible. Archie Bunkers place is about Archies life after his kids move away and even after Edith dies. This show does not have the appeal and spark that All in the Family had. If you want to see Archie at his best I recommend watching All in the Family up until Mike and Gloria move. If you do this you will see all of the best episodes and you will have a nice conclusion to the show. If you keep continuing with Archies Place you will be dissapointed.
This underated show may not be in the same class as All In The family but is sill better then most of the sitcoms on network TV today. People like to compare this show to All in the Family which is too tall an order and unfair to the good Actors and writers on this show.
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