Babylon 5

Season 4 Episode 15

No Surrender, No Retreat

Aired Monday 7:00 PM May 29, 1997 on
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Episode Summary

With Clark having killed 10,000 unarmed refugees, Sheridan once again mobilizes for war. The first target is Proxima 3, which is being bombed into submission. At the same time, Londo tries to get G'Kar to partake in a joint Centauri/Narn statement in support of the war against Clark.moreless

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  • It's all kicking off!

    Isn't this exciting

    I like the way G'Kar and Londo's story was resolved here. Given what he's gone through, it's no surprise that G'Kar initially rejected the proposal and did not suddenly become friends, but it also makes sense that he once again put the good of everyone above his own pride. And indeed, these two are just an amazing pairing of characters.

    Meanwhile the fight against Earth's forces goes a little better than expected, with Sheridan's great points about soldiers not being robots blindly following illegal orders, finally resonating. It only makes you wonder how it's taken so long.

    Finally, Douche Mode Garibaldi moves out to take his side, and we're left wondering how on Earth (or rather, how on Mars) he has changed so much, and whether it's his true self..

    I think this one is worth a 10. Great stuff.moreless
  • No Surrender, No Retreat

    No Surrender, No Retreat was a perfect, action packed, character driven, and awesome episode of Babylon 5. I really enjoyed watching this episode as Londo tried to pull a Sheridan by asking G'Kar to sign a statement supporting Sheridan's actions and plans. Londo and G'Kar's scenes together were great. It was also cool to see the White Star Fleet in action again as Sheridan took back Proxima 3. It was cool to see some familiar faces. I thought it was great how some of the ships decided not to fight, and eventually sign on with Sheridan's campaign. Sheridan gives great speaches. I look forward to the next episode!!!!!!!moreless
  • Londo and G'Kar are incredible

    More space battles and a fantastic scene between Londo and G'Kar. Seriously, I could sit and watch those two interact all day. Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas are friggin' amazing. I'm really upset now that Andreas Katsulas is dead, and I won't be able to watch him in anything new. Sheridan is finally going after President Clark's forces directly and we get into the age old discussion of the moral obligation of soldiers to question illegal orders. I don't watch Scrubs, but I've caught an episode or two and it was funny to see the crotchety old doctor from that show playing a military captain.moreless
  • londo and g'kar

    the fight to take back earth starts here.the fascist earth goverment. has blockaded proxima 3, a neutral world, and is destroying any vessel attemping to break the blockage.sherdian personally leads a massive alliance fleet to proxima, and for the first time babylon 5 forces engage earth gov,forces in savage combat.meanwhile, londo wants g'kar to request that the narn goverment issues a joint statement with the centauri in support of sherdian,which would inspire other worlds to uphold sherdian's cause. g'kar bitterly rejects such an unprecedented alliance between the long time enemines, but should he let hatred rule his surrender no retreat.moreless
Marcia Mitzman-Gaven

Marcia Mitzman-Gaven

Commander Sandra Levitt

Guest Star

Richard Gant

Richard Gant

Captain Edward MacDougan

Guest Star

Ken Jenkins

Ken Jenkins

Captain Trevor Hall

Guest Star

Neil Bradley

Neil Bradley


Recurring Role

Joshua Cox

Joshua Cox

Lt. Corwin

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


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  • QUOTES (16)

    • Sheridan: We're taking back Proxima 3. We're taking back Mars. And then... we're going to take back our home. Or die trying

    • Captain Hall: Are you questioning my orders, Commander?!
      Commander Levitt: No, I am relieving you of command! (pause) Remove Captain Hall from the bridge! (no one reacts) Now!
      (crew takes Captain Hall away)

    • Marcus: It looks as if we won.
      Sheridan: No, we achieved the mission objective. It is not a victory. Too many on both sides had to die for it.

    • Poster: Earth's Last Best Hope

    • Londo: Before war broke out between our governments, you bought me a drink. I wish to return the favor. For the first time in a hundred years, we have something in common beyond hatred. I find that most extraordinary, and so a drink to the humans, and to the bridge that they created between us in the hope for a better future for both our worlds.

    • Londo: Because, while I do not know who the enemy is any longer, I do know who my friends are, and that I have not done as well by them as I should. I hope to change that. I hope to do better.

    • Londo: You may not believe this, G'Kar, but all I ever wanted is what is right for my world. I'm a patriot, as you are. I have made some .. very poor choices in the last two years. Because I did not think, those choices almost destroyed my world, and yours. That is a humbling realization, G'Kar. If with a single wrong word I can become the enemy, do I any longer really understand who the enemy is?

    • Londo: When I saw you in that cell, beaten, chained .. As I said, we have never been friends, we will never be friends. There is too much blood between us, too much history. But I did feel for you, as much as I did not want to. In the beginning, it was little more than sympathy one might feel for any trapped animal. But in time .. I came to respect you.
      G'Kar: Your respect matters to me even less than your thanks.
      Londo: You are not going to give me even an inch, are you?

    • G'Kar: I have no interest in your thanks.
      Londo: I did not think that you would, but it is there anyway... As I said, a hard year.

    • Londo: How is the eye?
      G'Kar: It sees.

    • Londo: Hello, G'Kar. I don't believe I have ever been in your quarters before. Unless you count a cell on Centauri Prime.
      G'Kar: I apologize for the lack of chains. The cleaning service must have removed them."
      Londo: It has much the same feeling as your world: dry, .. red, .. and depressing.

    • Corwin: So from now on I guess the operational phrase is 'Trust no one.'
      Ivanova: No. Trust Ivanova, trust yourself, anybody else: shoot them.

    • Vir: I didn't do it! I didn't do it! Thank the Great Maker it was just a dream.

    • Sheridan: We'll hit them in waves. Try to isolate the ships we need to destroy from the ones who won't fight unless they have to. Then we'll give them a chance to surrender or join up.
      Ivanova: And if they don't?
      Sheridan: We take them out. Hey, I don't like the idea any more than you do, but either we commit ourselves to this completely or we don't do it. Once we pull the first trigger we can't hesitate to pull the next one, because they sure won't. Now, once we're in, we're in: no surrender, no retreat.

    • Sheridan: Captain's personal log, September 2nd, 2261. Enough is enough.

    • Sheridan: The hostiles might be splitting up so they can be with both groups to keep them in line.
      Marcus: Unless they're all hostile and some are just more hostile than others.
      Sheridan: Well thank you for that ray of sunshine, Marcus. Next time I feel the need to be depressed I'll remember to give you a call.

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