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Banshee S02E02: "The Thunder Man"


One of the things that was easy to forget after the last few episodes of Banshee's first season and the events of last week's premiere, at least for me, is that this is still something of a fish out of water story. Recent episodes have presented something of a focus on the kind of hell the Hood and Carrie wrought in the town of Banshee, and with good reason. Their respective, connected, and tumultuous histories were bound to come calling, and the show managed to tell that story in a couple of different ways—the violent set pieces powering the end of Season 1 and the more meditative stuff we saw last week. However, a good portion of what made the first season so enjoyable were the episodes where Hood had to deal with a given town- or community-related problem. He is the fake Sheriff, after all. "The Thunder Man" got back into that kind of storytelling, but in a slightly more personal way, to underscore that by now, Hood is caught in the middle of all kinds of bloody drama and in-fighting—even the kinds he didn't directly cause. 

First, Hood got roped into the ongoing feud between Alex Longshadow (and his seductress of a sister Nola) and Proctor. Facing pressure from the tribal council, Alex decided to take his frustrations out on Proctor—and ultimately, Rebecca. The payback for the Proctor-planned explosion in the Season 1 finale (and the truck robbery, which Alex assumes Proctor carried out) was pretty gruesome in its own right: explosive livestock. But while Alex seemed fine with "minor" threats related to udder-laced debris, Nola took matters into her own hands by kidnapping Rebecca and holding her hostage in exchange for the truck money. Banshee has purposefully kept Nola's intentions or motivations close to the vest; we don't really know why she seduced Hood last week, and it's unclear whether or not she actually has her brother's best interests at heart. Nevertheless, she's certainly willing to make bolder moves in the name of the family, to keep its power intact—moves that Alex was so fundamentally opposed to. Listen, blowing up cows? Totally fine. Kidnapping Amish babes? Less so. I like the way the show is developing the tension between Alex and Nola within the larger battle between Alex and Proctor and the various tribal pressures. It's a nice way to expand the town's universe and character base. 


In any event, it's perhaps unsurprising that the explosive (hey-o) tension between Alex and Proctor eventually roped Hood in. At this point it seems like both the show and the character are uninterested in more impersonal police work and upholding typical notions of "right" and "wrong," or "criminal" and "victim." In this instance, Hood agreed to help Proctor because he owed him one, and because Rebecca was in danger, and if that means beating the hell out of a sequence of big, lumbering security bros and meatheads, so be it. After last week's slower episode, it was great to be reminded of Banshee's ability to successfully commit sizable chunks of episodes to well-orchestrated fight sequences. Hood's methodical movement through the mostly abandoned location (I couldn't totally tell what it was based on my screener) was fantastic, and probably recognizable to anyone who has seen The Raid. It obviously wasn't on that extreme and prolonged level, but there were rock-solid variations to each little encounter, and Greg Yaitanes brought it all together behind the camera. 

"The Thunder Man" followed up on the Alex-Proctor stuff with another sequence later on (apparently introducing a variation of Chekhov's Gun that we might as well call Chekhov's Bloody Cow Parts) and I'm sure that their issues will continue in coming weeks. But for Hood, there's a sense that he's wrapped himself up in all of these longstanding personal squabbles and business deals gone wrong, and he's starting to recognize the problems with that. He did the job for Proctor and saved Rebecca, but without much enthusiasm or palpable urgency. Somehow, some way, he managed to resist Rebecca's flirtation post-rescue. Instead of taking her back to the hellhole he lives in, Hood gave Rebecca a lecture about staying away from bad men. That's going to be a problem in this town. Yet that little speech signifies that Hood knows just how quickly everything went to shit, and that there isn't any easy way out. 


After saving Rebecca, Hood actively injected himself into Siobhan's domestic problems. Siobhan has a restraining order out against her ex, and this being Banshee and all, the reason for it is that he was extremely violent toward her (and others, frankly), going as far as to burn her with a curling iron. The dirtbag meandered his way back into town in the name of finding work, and guess how that went? But unlike with Proctor and Alex, Hood seemed interested and invested in helping Siobhan—only she wasn't as interested in accepting his aid. The episode's final sequence—where the ex returned to Siobhan's trailer and assaulted her and Hood hoped to step in and clean up the proverbial mess, only to find that Siobhan beat him to the punch—was tension-filled and masterfully edited (including the cross-cutting with Carrie's first big prison fight). It was one of those sequences that only Banshee can pull off in that it was one part ridiculous, one part disturbing, and two parts awesome. Not that Siobhan's dirtbag ex didn't deserve the beatdown, but I felt at least a little weird about just how gleeful the moment, not to mention the subsequent make-out session between Siobhan and Hood, made me. She beat him with the hotel drawer bible, and then Hood smiled about it! He might as well have freeze-frame fist-pumped.

And although "The Thunder Man" dedicated quite a bit of time to Hood cleaning up (or at least trying to clean up) other people's messes, it didn't let us forget that he's caused quite a few of his own—namely, Carrie's crappy situation (and that's an understatement). The show probably burned through Carrie's local struggle a little fast for my liking, convicting her and shipping her off to prison already, but it also made up for it by giving us that really well-done sequence at the end of the episode. And of course, it's not as if being in prison isn't going to create moments of struggle for the character. Carrie doesn't have to deal with the embarrassment and shame that came with slinking around the corners of Banshee, trying to talk to her disinterested family, but now she'll have to sit with all those nasty feelings a couple hundred miles away and deal with whatever comes her way inside the cells and the barbed wire fences. I'm guessing that it's not going to be as funny or uplifting as Orange Is the New Black, so I hope Carrie didn't watch that series to prepare. 


After a mostly successful yet generally different season premiere, "The Thunder Man" was a good transition back to more familiar Banshee rhythms. The show's world keeps expanding and the stakes seem more personal (if not higher) than ever, and Hood will surely only face more difficult decisions in the coming weeks.



CASE NOTES

– No sign of Zeljko Ivanek's Racine or additional evidence of Rabbit's survival this week. That makes sense, given the episode's return to Banshee's more procedural storytelling. It will be interesting to see how long the show waits to bring those characters back in the fold. It might not happen until the finale.

– Unsurprisingly, Carrie's family isn't doing too well in the aftermath of everything that happened last season. Gordon's handling it so well that he's taking drugs and having a good time with some ladies in seedy parking lots.

– I like how the truck heist kept popping up as a point of tension this week. Other people are bound to find out that it was Hood and company, and that's surely not going to fly. Not that Banshee is devoid of consequences (as last week's premiere showed), but it wouldn't hurt to have some more.


What'd you think of "The Thunder Man"? What was your favorite fight sequence this week?


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AIRED ON 5/20/2016

Season 4 : Episode 8

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I'm still curious as to whether or Nola knew, in advance, that the dude she picked up and banged was the sheriff or if like Racine mentioned last week that this town is so small that everybody's got a connection to everybody.

"...recognizable to anyone who has seen The Raid"

I got more of a Double Dragon video game feel with Hood going from one level to the next until he met the final boss in the construction site ;)

Though despite my pre-season 1 expectations, this show isn't just fluff, violence and an excuse to get actresses to take their clothes off. Sure, it's a little silly sometimes, but the scene of Hood internally fighting his prison demons while trying to look composed on the outside when dropping Anna/Carrie off was FANTASTIC! And that's not something a brainless show looking for an excuse for violence and nudity would bother with. Add the brilliant final scene(s) cut between Carrie fight at the prison and Siobahn's fight at the motel and it furthers my belief that when at it's best, it's not a show on Skinemax, it's Starz v.2.0.

"Somehow, some way, he managed to resist Rebecca's flirtation post-rescue. Instead of taking her back to the hellhole he lives in, Hood gave Rebecca a lecture about staying away from bad men. That little speech signifies that Hood knows just how quickly everything went to shit, and that there isn't any easy way out."

The beating he and Kai gave each other after discovering Hood was banging his neice is a pretty good reason to resist temptation...as difficult as it might be. But always nice to see Hood, be it for self preservation reasons or not, show that he's willing to do the right thing, the right way, even if not for entirely the right reasons. I think he's starting to appreciate how Anna could lose herself in this town.

"Not that Banshee is devoid of consequences (as last week's premiere showed), but it wouldn't hurt to have some more."

This is what Banshee has figured out that the much better (on paper) House of Cards hasn't. When something good happens to Lucas Hood, I'm happy for him because I know it won't be long until something really bad happens...or at the very least, he take another ass whoopin'. Conversely, nothing bad ever happens to Frank Underwood so when something good happens, you're not really happy because it was a foregone conclusion.

Consequences...they really do make all the difference in the world with this kind of story telling.
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Does anyone else think that Hood, or Anthony Starr even, is like a caucasian Jackie Chan in his style of fighting? I love how dirty he fights, using anything he can get his hands on and his sarcastic facial expressions!
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Once again a stellar outing of 'Banshee' as we settle back in. This one relied on its greatest strength, its women. As the men kind of settled into the background this week all the ladies were out beginning with the beauties that are Rebecca and Nola and how their lives would intersect. One had just gotten done with Hood and one couldn't get him out of her mind. Then we get some time with Carrie trying desperately to connect with her daughter. It was a combination of smiles and depression as the fallout from season 1 continues to unfold. The MVP is the girl who had the smile on her face in the post credits sequence.

The smiles -

Rebecca's as she returns home from the kidnapping, rejected again by Hood in the car ride home. Her heart somewhat breaking rushes to her Uncle and now benefactor's side with a smile from ear to ear. Message to Hood or plea for help? Yet to be seen. I think this is just the beginning of her journey this season.

Burton's smile hitting the jets on Alex's hottub after dumping the carcasses left from the bomb set off at the slaughterhouse. Sometimes even Burton loves his job! Alex and the prostitute are still just standing in the hottub and Burton turns on the jets grinning ear to ear. That was cool.

Hood - as he walks into the Hotel to find exactly why Siobhan lied to him about where her ex was. She wanted to dish this beating on her own and he respects it and me thinks is a little.... a lot turned on. His smile comes as he picks up the bloody bible. The little things this show does.

Siobhan - driving away in the post credit scene and her face that had been so stoic and in so much pain for most of her scenes breaks into the most beautiful smile of the episode. She got the revenge from all of the pain this miserable dickhead inflicted upon her. (That scene which showed where Siobhan got the burn scar on her clavicle which has been a part of her character since the beginning - was very hard to watch because she looked so afraid.) And to top off her revenge, she and Hood shared a kiss that went from awkward to what's next for these two in about 1 second. She is quickly becoming my favorite. Now we need an episode with Emmett.

Not so smiley - the Hopewells. The scene with Hood driving Carrie to intake at the federal correctional facility. He had no idea what to say to her. That must have been the longest quietest trip in history and goes straight to the PTSD he is suffering even being at a prison gate. He loves this woman with every fiber of his being and can't express it and can't have her. From his scuffle with Gordan at the hearing. That seemed just about right - he knows he can't beat Hood but if he could just do something to inflict any pain on him - like getting him to do something that would end the job with the Badge. But he can't. And then he gets a, "I gave you the first one." from this dude whom everyone knows is f'ing or has f'ed his wife. These two aren't sharing another barbecue any time soon. (Gordon still knows nothing except that he doesn't know the first thing about this woman he met in the diner whom he built a home with and filled with a family. His day ended with what looked like the unhappiest handy ever. Who is more angry at 'Carrie'; Gordon or Deva? Both of them have every right to be going through what they are because they still know nothing. Someone has been lying to them every day for 15 years. Who is going to forgive her? Which one is going to completely shatter first? Maybe Max will forgive mom?) This is some damn fine drama.

And how could I forget to mention that dress? I was talking about Job - killing it in a platinum blonde wig and reminding Sugar that this is the way he likes to dress while divvying up the casino heist proceeds.

I love this show. Thumbs up to - we'll call it Part 2 of the season opener because Part 1 was written by Jonathan Tropper and this episode was penned by the co-creator David Shickler and both have combined to bring us back to 'Banshee' quite nicely. Now's when the fun starts right,,,, for someone, anyone we love on this show? - please. Rambling so I'll stop.





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Love the episode - it's Banshee: back to basic.

Since the show is now on its usual mayhemic path, instead on giving my opinion on everything in it, I'll just focus on rating two very important aspects of in it. Namely:

BEST FIGHT OF THE WEEK:
Obvious choice - this has to go Siobhan beating the shit out of her PoS ex. And finishing him off with a Bible! There's not a whole lot of things I hate more than women beaters, so watching a girl destroying her old tormentor all by herself, without the assistance of some other dude, that always puts a smile in my face (EMBRACE THE GLEE, CORY! THAT'S THE RIGHT RESPONSE!) I'm so into this type of retribution, you would think I would be a huge fan of J-Lo's "Enough"... not the case, though. But here, on this show, this kind of stuff rocks hard.
Honorary mention: Hood's NES's Kung Fu-style rescue Rebecca (seriously was expecting someone to say "LEVEL UP!" every time he took someone down.)

WEAKEST FIGHT OF THE WEEK:
Very disappointed with the Nola Vs Three Army Rapists. I understand that the show is trying to make her look like some kind of mystical/unstoppable/bat-shit crazy force-of-nature, but, if we're supposed to believe she has the skill to take down trained soldiers in mere seconds, even if they're drunk, YOU HAVE TO SHOW IT TO US! Fact be told, we have yet to see Ms Longshadow actually be in a genuine fist-fight - yes, she has no problem taking on a group of harden criminals with a submachine gun or disarmed with ease a guy who just fight off 7 guys, but we still don't know if this chick can actually take a punch. Which is very weird coming from that show - why does Odette Annable get a pass on getting beat up, but every other hot women in this town must end up with their mouths full of blood? Hell, if Rebecca got bitchslapped by Alex in this episode (not cool, bro!) So let's hope her time is coming soon... BTW, let's give it up to Mrs Annable for her actually scary portrait of Nola - I think this is the first time in her career that she ever end up playing this type of characters (she's mainly known for playing the hot girlfriend/girl in danger/girl of interest), and she is definitely making the most out of the opportunity of being a badass. I mean, this week, I was watching her eye-balling the hell outta Antony Starr, and I just thought "Man... they should have picked her to play Wonder Woman!" Nothing against Gal Gadot, but... yeah. Should have been her. But, then again, we didn't know before Banshee that she could pull off being such an action chick, didn't we?
Dishonorable mention: Gordon Hopewell Vs Hood (dude, we know you're hurting and all, and ain't thinking clearly... but seriously?); and (yeah) Carrie Vs Prison Bitch - sorry, but, last season, I saw Anastasia go twelve rounds against Olek AND WIN after being stabbed by him and losing a whole lot of blood... and you're trying to sell us that dispatching of this sole hoodrat would take her this long? PLEASE.
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Totally agree with Hood's rescue fight sequence, I was even saying to my husband as I we were watching it that it reminded me of Jackie Chan's fight sequences how he grabbed everything he could get his hands on, and had the comical and sarcastic facial expressions to boot!
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Ok, BANSHEE is BACK!!! .First episode meh but this one.I like Nola!
Hood is as slut as ever,plus a lots a violence. Definitively is back.
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Loved this episode. I enjoy last week's return, but it was slower and more methodical, mostly dealing with the fallout of the finale. I loved that we got back to what has made Banshee so enjoyable: babes, asskicking and badassery. Loved the entire extended sequence of Hood getting Rebecca back, loved the spliced fight scenes of Siobhan and Carrie, and I'm not to afraid to say I got a little hot under the collar in the opening scene with Rebecca doing some "self-medicating".
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For me, this was another great episode. And about the "truck heist" thing that keep popping up, I kind of agree. I know that fans of last season wanted to see more of how Hood/Ana/Job work together, but this one was also cool because we're seeing the characters from Banshee's town growing and evolving thanks to the events that developed after "Hood" arrived. *SPOILERS* Tell me that you didn't liked Siobhan kickin' her abusing ex ass! And the Ana/Carrie fight in jail?... Ok, ok, I know. It's Ana. We all should have expected that. That aside, Cory mentioned in the article that we could had have forgotten some of the events of season 1 because of the many stories running at once. So I decided to revisit season 1 again. And I realized something that probably you guys already had figured out and/or are wondering about: Why was Job looking into the Interpol website at the final scenes of season 1? I know he's a hacker but, could it be at he's working for that agency? Did he tipped the Longshadows about the heist on ep. 1 of this season or it was just the guards told them and Nola took action? *SPOILERS END*. This show shouldn't be just 10 episodes per season with that many storylines :(...
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Actually the correct expression is "Chekhov's Phaser."
As the Bible says, if someone hits you, offer the other cheek, if they hit you again, hit them senselessly with the Bible until they lose consciousness. At least that's what the Bible would say if the man impersonating Lucas Hood were impersonating Jesus.
Sugar's reaction to Job's "China White" outfit was priceless. I also loved the part in which Hood had knocked down a dozen goons, and then, when he thought he'd have a break, one more appeared, and he said something like, "Seriously?"
It's interesting how Hood (what's his real name anyway?) is avoiding overstepping any bounds with Siobhan. He really respects her and appreciates her friendship, unlike with most females. They made out in the end, but for Banshee standards that was a handshake.
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Hood's fight in the casino was fantastic and that one more guy at the end was great, the only thing that "spoiled" it was when one of the security guard picked up the wall tile and hit Hood across the back. This is Banshee he should have thrown the entire box of tiles at him.
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This is fucking awesome.
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This show is nothing short of becoming a widely acclaimed masterpiece.
This and Justified is the shit for me. And everything else airing right now can suck it.
Does any one of you afficionados know why KAI PROCTOR let Alex Longshadow and his hooker live? Because the sister is worse and he can be controlled? I was surprised, is all.
Letting someone live - I still can't believe this.

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Can't think of two shows that fit together better than 'Banshee' and 'Justified'. I think Kai promised Chief Longshadow that he wouldn't kill Alex and because of who he is, he's going to honor that. Remember the scene when Proctor stopped the crew working on the casino (the part he later blew up with poor Mayor 'Baby Face' Kendall) and Rebecca asked .. why stop the construction? He told her at that time it was because he gave the Chief his word that he wouldn't kill him. He has to know, if simply because of how easy it was to recover the lovely Rebecca that Alex wasn't the person who decided to kidnap her. Nola may not be so lucky. She had no relationship with her father whatsoever - she clearly had major issues with dad prior to her return to the Tribe which if you recall was only made for her brother's benefit. This story is getting good.
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Thanks! I knew there was something more to it but it seems I forgot about Kai's promise given to the father.
Damn. Need to watch seas 1 again. Stupid life, always keeping me from watching good stuff twice ...
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I liked that Siobhan went and handled it herself. Huh, does it mean I'm a bit weird that I was also smiling all throughout the bible part? :P
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It would have been weird of you NOT smiling throughout the bible part!
But it also means you're a bit weird, yes. Sorry.
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A return to spectacular fight sequences! This show is the best. Bansheeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh my god right!!! The fight sequences are always top-notch in this show, but this episode was on a whole other level. The sequence at the hotel construction site was practically all one single long take and actually featured Anthony Starr rather than a stunt-double. He beat up four guys, used several props, and got smashed with what seemed like an actual stone tile, all in a single take. Very, very, very impressive for a TV-show.
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I was also greatly impressed with Ana's prison fight and how her opponent kept coming back, like last season her fights seem to be far more hard won than any of Hoods. That moment where she forces her opponents arm to the edge of the table and that shared look before she broke it, sheesh!

Even Siobhan didn't have an easy time of it as her husband looked the potential victor for a split second, so far only Nola seems to be able to beat up 3 marines and not get a hair out of place. :-)
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I just have one thing to say. How can you not mention the sex in this episode. It is almost as good as the fight scenes and though Banshee is an adult show, it is not every episode that you get to see fablous Rebecca pleasuring herself. It was shot in good taste too at least in my humble opinion.
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And I was pleasantly surprised to see her cameo in True Detective !
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That shot with the sunlight coming through the window early morning as Rebecca ponders the two men that she thinks about the most - was such a beautiful shot. Lily Simmons really doesn't need much help looking stunning in a frame - but the shot of her on the bed, hand in panties, to start the day - really was a gorgeous piece of film.
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Its possible Cory didn't know it was a sex scene, he is so innocent
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Perfect episode.
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'It was one of those sequences that only Banshee can pull off in that it was one part ridiculous, one part disturbing, and two parts awesome' - this line sums up Banshee for me. And yeah that smirk of Hood in the end on seeing the bible is something which I do after seeing each episode of Banshee.
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"freeze-frame fist-pumped" lol, if Banshee was set in the 80s I'd say it would of been the perfect finish. The show is just doing something right, normally I might be uncomfortable watching actors in any other show do a sex or masturbation scene that just strikes you as awkward but somehow I get fully absorbed by the lush intercuts between a young amish girls "forbidden" horniness for the anti-hero sheriff and some intense martial arts training on a wooden man where it's wooden limb is exploded to splinters simultaneously as the moment of orgasm. I mean is there anything else on television that can compare? It's like Verhoeven on acid dipped speedballs!!
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i adore this cray cray show
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Stuff-



You only make these sort of faces if the sex was bad






These Amish are just filthy.....filthy!!



Job's inspiration was....
Poll



PETA will probably be having a fit!





Exactly how bad was the sex between these 2?




Turning on the bubbles at the end was a nice touch







And since when did calling someone Barbie result in something like this -

I thought all little girls wanted to be like Barbie :-)











And for some reason the episode finished with the worlds unhappiest handjob -

There just seems like NOTHING will cheer this guy up!



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I've just worked it out: Banshee is basically a live-action version of Tekken...
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This show is just so utterly watchable. I power watched last season and I have watched the whole season again at least twice. The characters are written unbelievably well. The universe that they exist in is compelling and dark and sometimes bright and fun. Just fun.

I can't say that I have a character from the central cast that I dislike or feel that doesn't fit well. This is a well put together ensemble that shouldn't work but still does.

The conflicts are well thought out and I kind of like how everyone feels included in the episode.

The fighting is very well done and thought out. I have trained for the most part of my life in various styles and have been in more than my fair share of altercations professionally and personally and it is for the most part very realistic. Though there would be more broken bones. Fights are rarely anything like you see in the movies. It is messy, it is dirty, and it hurts. And there choreographer conveys that well.

I think my favorite character is Siobhan. She isn't Carrie or Lucas and is a real person with real problems and I think this way more so than the Biker episode from last season was her break out episode. She was fantastic.

These past two episodes does make me wonder what they are going to do with Deva and Carrie's son. They haven't received much attention and I also wonder how long they are going to drag out those 30 days. I hope quickly because Carrie is a fun part of the show even though her story is fairly tragic right now.

This is just a great show.
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"Utterly watchable"
Love it.
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"I can't say that I have a character from the central cast that I dislike or feel that doesn't fit well" -this! so much
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Ok so maybe there isn't a massive cross over in viewers but last week's Hawaii Five-0 had Lili Simmons turn up in a guest spot and she was just awful. But here she's absolutely prefect as Rebecca.
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Problem is that show rather than the actress, from a strong start 5-0 has turned into an utter dog, generic, boring stories, hollow wiring, empty performances, first season was excellent, been going downhill ever since sadly.
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I'm guessing that after this episode Carrie will be inside for more than 30 days
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YEP.
Poor Hood. Now he can fuck only three bitches for a time:
Siobhan, Rebecca and not-of-this-world Nola.
Pity!
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And yet he didn't get any this episode!
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He did,Nola at the very beginning of the episode. I just loved his reaction when he recognized her at the pool scene.
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he turned Rebecca down!
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Yeah, well, brawling is a legit substitute sometimes.

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I agree about the fights, but you got to admit that Nola beating up those three army men was a little ridiculous.
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Not necessarily. Not everyone in uniform is combat soldier or Marine. Nola is still largely an unknown. And from what we have heard through hints is that she was some sort of mercenary and worked in combat environments. So she could be a lot more experienced then those guys. Plus she had the element of surprise which generally provides tactical superiority.
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What I found ridiculous was the batman style of that fight sequence: it seems as if she comes from under one of the cars and pulls down one of the dudes, then sends off flying another one who is like 5 meters away and when the last one seems all confused boom! she's kicking him in the face. So yeah... I'm not buying the judo, that's some fucking League of Shadows training.
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I get that, I was referring to a 100-pound woman tossing around 3 200 - 300 pound men. I just found it a bit unbelievable, but I could be wrong. You probably know from personal experience. lol
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But Odette has got to at least 110lbs, so where's the problem :P
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maybe she knows judo and they seemed drunk so their reflexes, balance, aim, etc were off;-)
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Google, "shaquille o'neal picked up by girlfriend" and you'll realize it's completely possible.
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I have been tossed around by a couple. Lifting them up and such. Yea your a re right for the most part that is largely tv magic. Ronda Rosuey, Nola is not. But I have seen a few women soldiers and Marines that could. However they don't look like Odette Anabel.
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So was the scar on Siobhan's shoulder that we kept seeing in season one, but was never addressed caused by the curling iron incident?
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This show doesn't just 'throw in' anything. Which is just one of the million reasons why it is the best.
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Yes
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This show is sooo good. In fact so much better than it has any right to be.

I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one who uttered a gleeful "fuck ya" when Hood and Siobhan made out. I've been wanting them to get together since last season. I'm hoping it remains a part of the eventual long game though, and that they don't just bang next ep.

Lot's of things to praise this episode. Hood going back to prison was very tense. Proctor dumping the meat in the hot tub was fantastic, I really hate him, but I have to admit the man has some style. Siobhan getting her beat down on with the bible, was amazing, and I loved that she admitted it felt better than she thought it would.

I know some people think her ex escalated back to crazy a little quickly. But I think it made sense. When he came and told her that he wanted to work, and asked her to remove the restraining order, that was part of the con. He hadn't given up drinking, he just wanted an excuse to insinuate himself back into her life. He thought if he just apologized and showed her how he'd changed, she'd eventually forgive him, as I'm sure she had done many times in the past. When he realized that wasn't going to happen he snapped.

I also really hate Gordon. He's ridiculous. I actually wish the writers would make him a more sympathetic character because Hood and Carrie have pretty much ruined his life. But he's so annoying and pathetic that I just don't care.

Also Nola kicks ass. You heard it here first, sometime this season she and Carrie will throw down.


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I think she and Hood will throw down..
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"I think she and Hood will throw down.." into sexy times!!
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Haha @ Job's drag-look in the beginning of the episode. I had the same smirk Sugar did.

I LOVE what they did with Nola, Carrie, and Siobhan. Badass ladies are awesome. She didn't do much,but Rebecca standing up for herself to the Marines was nice too.

The way they shot the Carrie and Siobhan fights was both cool and distracting. Cool, because it was fun seeing the similarities. Distracting because I thought there were maybe a few too many transitions between the two.

Hood's stroll through the casino was fun. I love your mention of The Raid, because the casino fight scene here, particularly the last bit of it in the hallway, did remind me of that (although, yes, not as ridiculously extreme).

Despite the different tones of the two, I loved both of these two episodes to start the season.
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check out the origins clips (racine does know "hood" or "John Smith"
http://www.welcometobanshee.com/origins-season-2.htm#
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My significant other calls the show "Bashee" in tribute to the numbers of thumpings handed out. Any ideas for a version of the title that references the amount of shagging going on?
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Bow-Chica-Bow-Wow-Shee
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Bangshee? Bushee?
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D'oh, why didn't I write Bangshee? That's a clear winner.
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You were getting there honey!
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Well, if it hadn't been fashionable for females to shave their junk, Bushee would have been good, at least as a reference to the scenes where women are getting naked. But maybe Boobee is better. Ohh, maybe Pussee. :)

Shaggee could work, but maybe it needs to begin with a B. Bangee? Boinkee? Boneree?


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Well there's Bonk, Bonkee? Or Bonkshee? Since there doesn't seem to be any active gay people in the burg...
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Another fantastic episode. I loved S2E1 and how it tied up some loose ends, showed consequences and set up the characters' stories for this season. S2E2's The Thunder Man showed us so much more character growth, humor and badass action. Last season we learned Siobhan was an abused woman and part of why she became a cop (deputy) was to empower herself. It makes sense that she has developed the confidence and growth, especially after season 1's finale) to no longer be a victim and deal with her abuser herself. Gotta love the strong female characters in Banshee. It wasn't an "easy" superhero style fight, rather it was a "dirty" street style fight with no rules~both characters got injured. I love how she didn't need rescuing and used the bible as a weapon~~LOL, fucking great humor!

Psycho stalker ex's are very realistic (and delusional)....just look at the statistics on domestic violence.

Carrie/Ana~shows us that the actions of the characters in Banshee have consequences. The effect/destruction of her family and prison are a great example. The fight in jail had to happen unless she was to become someone's bitch. She didn't start the fight but she finished it and prisoners are going to think twice before messing with her. I doubt she will get more time added to her sentence (self defense one could argue....and the guards should of intervened sooner). Instead I see her getting some time in isolation. Our prisons are overcrowded and violent criminals are let out early all the time. I doubt she will get more time.

Nola kicks ass and thought it was funny how she rescued Rebecca only to kidnap her. Nola is more ruthless then Alex and I think she has Alex's best interests at heart. Nola for chief! lol

Was it just me or was their sexual tension between Alex and Rebecca. It's probably just Rebecca and she just exudes sexiness (and creepiness). I look forward to her growth. Currently she is dependent on others and needs rescuing and shelter. I think she has the potential based on her interaction with Alex to be another badass character. She already blew up a building;-)
Ok, she is horny but that flash of her uncle at the end of her masturbation just reaffirms our prior feelings of creepiness between her and her uncle. She's a fascinating character.

Kai is a badass and uses his brains this round. He calls on the debt Hood owes him. It's going to get nasty between Kai and the Native Americans...it already is nasty. The only decent scene in UtD was the cow split in half and Banshee blows it out of the park with the exploding herd of cows and then dumps cow parts into a jacuzzi~LOL. Badass and funny.

Gotta love Hood. His exasperation at the endless dudes to fight (more original Oldboy then Raid but both are appropriate) only to end up outplayed by Nola. But he's not just muscle and uses his brains to get out of that situation and rescue the girl (no longer in Kai's debt). He tries to impart wisdom on Rebecca but she will take her own path. He tries to rescue Siobhan but is cool enough to appreciate her taking care of herself. I absolutely loved his smile at her use of the bible.

The fight choreography is remarkably brilliant. I like how it is back and forth, down and dirty as well as humorous at times. So brutal yet not "superhero" style, except for Nola's rescuing of Rebecca. The characters get hurt and show fatigue as well as the exasperation/humor at the endless number of goons;-)

I love how most of the characters are shades of grey. The intricate stories, grey characters, gorgeous sexiness, strong (mentally, physically, and emotionally) females (and males), brutal violence, and subtle (and not subtle) humor are all reasons why Banshee is a favorite show of mine.

Job~best use of the word "fuck";-)
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I'm starting to think Nola is the Thunder Man

Hoods exasperation is priceless, reminded me of season 1 with the brothers who wanted some redneck justice and Hood just drops the reality bomb "you thought you'd just kill us and then what... go home and fry up some fucking venison?"

The actor who played Siobhan's ex seemed reasonable to me after the first meeting but after the flowers it just kicked off, he did a thoroughly convincing job as this posessive violent husband in the now and in the flashbacks.
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Mind. Blown. Phenomenal. Love Dept Kelly, she is fanstatstic and damn, incredible episode. Best of any show all season. Editing was amazing. Post-pro ya'll kicked some ass.
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I have to admit I was a little let down in the premier by the lack of violence, a show does't need violence to be good, but this show has shown time and time again that it's violence is something special and for me is the best thing about it. And then the fight with the marines was kind of lame, so I was worried that it had lost it's touch. But then I was proven oh so wrong when Hood when to get the Amish girl back (Rebecca?) and then again with the cop woman killing her ex and the prison fight. This show really has just got fights down, with most show and even movies its just people punching and people throwing each other into stuff but the fights in this are varied (one or more assailants is often using some sort of prop at one point or another) and unfailingly brutal, like when Hood pulled the guy's fingers apart in season one and again in this when she finally killed the guy by hitting him with a fucking Bible, just beautiful.
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He's still alive
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maybe the misconception was just wishful thinking? ;)
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Exceptional episode. Great to see some movement on the different story fronts.

Was anyone else reallllllly freaking creeped out by the open bit with Rebecca thinking about her Uncle while errr...yeah that.? Because... damn.
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Creeped out a bit, sure. But also not surprising; they portrayed that odd incestuous relationship a bit in the first season, too.
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from the interview GC previously posted:
"What about Rebecca and Proctor, how does that relationship evolve?
Antony Starr: That’s a very twisted relationship. There’s something about it that makes it disgusting and hypnotic at the same time. It’s kind of like watching shows about Nazis or sharks. So it’s kind of one of those awful relationships that you really want to deepen and see how deep the rabbit hole goes. That all develops. It’s all in an evolving state in season two."
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I really didn't like it when they introduced a violent ex-husband, and I was starting to hate it when he turned out to behave in an absurd way within a few days of getting the restraining order lifted. But I liked that Siobhan went to deal with it by herself, and I really liked the bible thing. That was a nice touch.

That guy's behavior really didn't make any sense. It would take a very special kind of insanity to go into the place where she lives and start cooking a meal.

Carrie's behavior didn't make much sense either. Wouldn't this add a year to her sentence or something like that?

The editor must have been high when he/she cut some of those scenes together. I didn't like the result.

Why hasn't the real Lucas Hood's son shown up yet? Is he on the world's slowest bus?
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Definetly think Carrie is going to get extra time added for fighting
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"That guy's behavior really didn't make any sense. It would take a very special kind of insanity to go into the place where she lives and start cooking a meal."
You find it hard to believe because you've never had a real life stalker who thinks that they own you, so they have no respect for your boundaries at all. To them you don't have any boundaries, period.
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He didn't talk to her for at least a year when the restraining order was in place. That suggests some degree of self-control, and rational thinking. Then when he got the restraining order lifted, he immediately started approaching her in absurd ways. A person who is at all capable of rational thinking would at least have tried the normal approach once before going nuts. If he was nuts the whole time, the restraining order wouldn't have kept him away, and if he wasn't nuts for a whole year, he wouldn't have gone nuts on the first day. And no, I don't buy that the alcohol made him snap.
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I had doubts after episode 1, but this episode was really good, with plenty of parrallel stories. I particular liked Siobhan kicking her ex husband's butt, that was sooooo satisfying. Good episode, a Hood with 4 women in his life. Who will be the next one ?
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This show has the most amazing women on TV. Siobhan and Carrie were all kinds of badass, and Nola is practically superhuman. Rebecca was of course sexy as always, and she will no doubt be badass soon.

As for the episode, I thought it fucking rocked! Last week's premiere was good, but it didn't really get me back in the Banshee mood, so it didn't leave me as pumped. This episode was the true "welcome back" episode of Banshee. Hood's fight(s) at the club did remind me of The Raid now that you mention it, so props to you Cory. Kai and Burton having all those cow guts/heads dumped into Alex's hot tub was disgusting, but hilarious, especially Burton's gesture after that. Look forward to seeing how the rest of the season plays out, and it was only the second episode.
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"Rebecca was of course sexy as always, and she will no doubt be badass soon." - I'm sure Uncle Kai will have something to do with her badass :-)
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You gotta like a show that has women sorting out assholes by beating them down with a Gideon's bible in the needle dick's own seedy motel room.
A different more mainstream show would have had the sheriff walloping the low life woman basher, which would have been just as passive aggressive and reinforcing of the 'all women need a bloke to sort their shit out' myth, as if the woman had gotten her revenge by bonking the scumbag's best friend.

Banshee handles this stuff well. Hood worked his way through the casino belting the pug uglies about & beating them down - until he got to Alex's sister Nola, that is, then he got outsmarted and could only effect the 'rescue' by playing the man with a tin badge card -Hood didn't best Nola in a fight, he had to try the passive aggressive route.
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Its brought a whole new meaning to the phrase 'bible-basher!'
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My favorite part in the whole Casino scene was when he thought he'd beaten all the goons and then another came around the corner and Hood rolled his eyes, gotta love little moments like that.
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