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Banshee S02E03: "The Warrior Class"


When looking for areas of improvement in sophomore TV series, one thing to focus on is how they go about balancing more stories at once, both in individual episodes and longer arcs. It isn't always the case, but many shows expand their worlds in their second season, and of course it doesn't always work. Although Banshee hasn't blown open its universe too dramatically in the first three episodes of Season 2, the series has methodically brought us into new corners of its small domain and most impressively, been able to carry additional plots. 

"The Warrior Class" was a fine example of this slightly more assured storytelling. The episode went a little deeper into both the Amish and Native American communities, gave us some quality time with Carrie in her own twisted Cinemax version of Orange Is the New Black, and somehow squeezed in coverage of what was previously Banshee's biggest "secret" with the arrival of the real Lucas Hood's son. I wasn't bamboozled by the show's ability to make all of these things work within one hour of television, but it was absolutely impressive, and a sign that Banshee, while still wild and violent and sex-crazed, is becoming a more efficient, interesting series.


Can we start by talking about the compelling Terrence Malick-y sequence at the beginning of the episode? Anytime you start a scene with slow-moving, almost ponderous montages of people ruffling their hands through wheat fields and top it off with a voiceover, it's probably fair to call it a "Full Malick." Not that it was bad! In fact, I loved it, and this is what I'm talking about with regard to the show pushing its boundaries and doing some different things here and there, but making them fit within the preexisting Banshee universe. The Full Malick worked so well that at first, I wasn't even sure whether it was happening in the present day, as opposed to being some sort of fascinating flashback. Of course, this being Banshee, a lovely four-minute side story with two star-crossed lovers ended with a teenage girl dead in the rain and a teenage boy MIA. You know, just in case you thought a show on Cinemax was going to go whole hog into Tree of Life

Maybe the introduction of two teens—one from the local Indian tribe and the other from the Amish community, both of them just trying to make it work in this craaaazy world—was a little on-the-nose in hitting the season's early tensions between the two groups, but it established a reason for Hood and the rest of the squad to go into both communities. Naturally, since they're outsiders, neither excursion went particularly well. "The Warrior Class" made some inroads into explaining the general histories of and politics between the two groups, and obviously set up a couple of truly gut-wrenching fight sequences. There's something so charming about a show that introduces the HUGE tribe gang leader character, lets him spew on about his people's ages-long mistreatment by the white man, and then moves right into a throwdown with Hood involving chains, knives, nightsticks, broken tables, and whatever the heck else was in that dusty old room. And more than that, the episode (as most do) made those seemingly dissonant things go together so clearly that I was cackling by the end, because it was RIDICULOUS, but also because it was RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME. 


Amid the perhaps slightly less believable parts of the show, I appreciated that "The Warrior Class" kept grounding the proceedings in some semblance of reality. So Hood and the squad rolled onto the Indian reservation despite a complete lack of jurisdiction (and I loved Hood's acknowledgement that the FBI wasn't going to help them anyway, so screw it), they raised all sorts of hell, and then they returned to the station to find Gordon's replacement in the DA's office breathing down their neck. They can do just about whatever the hell they want, until they can't. Those quick reminders keep the show from falling into full-on (albeit completely enjoyable, mind you) cartoon mode. Similarly, right as Proctor beat a few of trespassing tribesmen within an inch of their life, he shared a half-awkward, half-moving moment with his former family, particularly his mother. 

The actual investigation into what happened to the teens was less successful, mostly because I didn't care about them, but it accomplished a few things. First, it added some color to the groups' feud without necessarily focusing on Proctor and Alex Longfellow, who are the key players in what we've seen thus far but not the only members of their respective communities. Second, it furthered the confusing trajectory of Odette Annable's Nola. That she was wearing the dark hoodie in the final moments suggested to me that she probably killed the girl, I'm guessing for the same reasons that they figured the big dude did, but who knows with her right now. Third, it allowed the show to put Lili Simmons in the mud and rain and whatever else. Would I like her to have more to do than get chased in a downpour or pleasure herself on the bed? Sure. But the show's gotta serve its Cinemax masters every once and a while, right?


And on top of all of that, "The Warrior Class" found time to bring the real Hood's son into town, and into our Hood's life. It was interesting how Banshee handled that moment. It wasn't played over the top like it was so fundamentally earth-shattering, and Hood was almost immediately given an out because the son didn't really care about his dad and is generally kind of a dirtbag anyway (duh, that's the case with everyone on this show). Nevertheless, I liked that the episode just threw that in there, making Hood's current existence even more of a living hell. You get the sense that it's all becoming too much here and there, and while I don't know if he's going to "break" or lose it, there are bound to be some moments in the future where Hood actually lets himself feel all that garbage he's holding onto. Or maybe he just get it in with Siobhan some more and everything will be fine. Do not blame him.

I can't (yet?) say that Banshee Season 2 is head and shoulders above Season 1 in quality, but what I've liked about the first three episodes, and "The Warrior Class" in particular, is how much ground the show is trying to cover, and how quickly. There's a lot going on already, and the show is handling it very well.



CASE NOTES

– Shockingly, Carrie's not doing too well in prison. Banshee should probably dedicate a little more time to those scenes in the coming weeks, but this episode gave us enough to recognize the dire straits.

– Speaking of Carrie, what's the shipper breakdown for this show like? Are we all in on Hood and Carrie, or hopeful for more Hood and Siobhan?

– I made the mistake of watching my screener for this episode at Starbucks, and while Banshee's aggressive sex and nudity is always a bit embarrassing to deal with, the sheer impact of Proctor nailing those dudes with the baseball bat had me squirming in my chair, and probably making a fool of myself. Just the sound of the bat, ugh.

– What do I need to do to get more Job in my life this season? Can they rob something else next week?

– I appreciated how surprised the real Hood's son was that Hood actually does the job. Well, "does" the job.


What'd you think of this episode? Which fight sequence was your favorite?


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AIRED ON 5/20/2016

Season 4 : Episode 8

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Much like I should stop being surprised at how bad The Walking Dead can be, I should really stop being surprised at how good Banshee can be. But much like House of Cards could take lessons on consequences for it's protagonists, The Walking Dead could take lessons on multi-episode arc story telling and how to include more people and expand your universe without watering down what makes it good in the first place.

"And more than that, the episode (as most do) made those seemingly dissonant things go together so clearly that I was cackling by the end, because it was RIDICULOUS, but also because it was RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME."

I can't figure out how Banshee can so routinely walk the tightrope of absurdity and not Karl Wallenda itself every time, but it does. A political and social commentary on the plight of Native Indians immediately followed up by a 4-on-1 WWF style fight scene between cops and Littlestone. I don't know if Geno Segers' voice was digitally altered, but I'm guessing Kevin Grevioux saw the episode and said, "DAMN!!! That's a BIG dude with a DEEP voice!"

"I can't (yet?) say that Banshee Season 2 is head and shoulders above Season 1 in quality, but what I've liked about the first three episodes"

I don't think it's a matter of better or worse...just evolution. This should couldn't have done in season 1 what it's doing in season 2...it just wouldn't have worked. Thus far, it's taken the first three episodes and built on what was a solid base. Growing. Expanding. So many shows make the mistake of playing it safe and not changing anything and get stale. Other shows try to do and change too much, forgetting what got them there in the first place.

Like I said, I really shouldn't be surprised as to just how good this show is...but I am, and that's a good thing.
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I most certainly don't think that Nora killed the girl. I think she is gonna avenge her murder and punish whoever did this. At the beginning of the episode, I had tought the girl was Nora's youth because they are very similar in objecting the rules of the tribe.
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Forgive me if this has already been discussed elsewhere, but what is up with the incesteous vibe between Proctor and his neice?
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it's been discussed and it's currently a creepy vibe
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You watch screeners in Starbucks? You must get some odd looks. I really liked this episode, it gave a new, more crime-procedurally look to the show and it worked because of the seriousness of the case. Plus, I don't know what to think about Nola right now, she's pretty much bad, but she's also super bad-ass!
I appreciated Jason's shock that Hood actually does police work, and I very much enjoyed Sugar's warning to Jason as well. I'd say I'm more for Hood/Siobhan, but that's just mostly because Siobhan is awesome!
PS I agree about Job. More please.
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Love this show, but worried that Mr. Ball will take it down the same path as True Blood. From awesome to beyond absurd. I mean, how many women does Lucas have to sleep with, really. The whole premise is that he's going through all of this to be close to Ana, and of course now Dayva too. Yet he sleeps with every attractive woman in town (this is already getting old) and he has had very little interaction with Dayva this season. I get the whole "the consequences of my actions are now setting in" theme, but really. And not buying the Siobhann thing, which is totally forced. I think Ana's his only real love, and for me that is the center of this whole story. At this point, he should just split with Job and start over somewhere else. Or go find Rabbit and kill him once and for all. Adore the entire cast on this show though. Well acted, insane fun.
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I'm glad they didn't 'solve' the murder in one episode, I really don't want Banshee going into 'small town with a murder each episode' territory.
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This, totally. A lot of shows would really benefit from letting different cases take different amounts of time. I'm looking at you Almost Human. Figuratively. I'm not watching anymore.
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Hood and Siobhan. Why you say? Carrie is mean, self-centered and bitchy to the man who did 15yrs and loves her. Slobhan, in one ep has done more to show she cares. MEN: when a woman starts making you dinner and cleaning blood off your face, she is 100% falling in love with you. That's showing affection, not just having sex, SO, look, he is so wrapped up in Ana, and not getting that she is now Carrie, he can't let go. It would be good for him to let a woman love him... but he likes to be tortured, the tortured soul. I say kick the bitch tot he curb. If she complains one more damn time about er 30 days to the man she let in jail for 15yrs, I'm going mucking lose it.

Meanwhile, this is the best show on TV. THe reviewer doesn't give it enough cred. Last season was phenominal, so is this one. Anthony Star is immaculate. He owns it. But that is just me.
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Should we give credit to Carrie for saving hood from rabbit? ı don't think so. She was the one who easily handed him over to rabbit! She didn't really care... She is a bitch to him all the time and she will be.. As I watched preview of next ep. I realized that she is gonna spit over everything to Gordon and I think Gordon is gonna abuse the info to make Hood's life a living hell..
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If you think she did not care, then you completely misread her. It was an agonizing decision for her - her children or the love of her life. And Hood put her in the position where she was forced to make that choice.

As far as being bitchy, she tried every way to make him leave, before he blew her cover - but Hood acted as if he did not care - or was oblivious to the fact that he put Carrie's life and her family at risk... And in the end, he did destroy her family - which is her life...

As far as telling "everything" to Gordon, she is not going to give Gordon any info he could use against Hood. She will not betray him again. I am confident about that...
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Carrie would not have a family in the first place if Hood didn't go to prison alone in order to save her from being caught at the robbery. In addition, Deyva is hood's daughter too.

If Carrie won't tell about Hood to Gordon. What else could " ı will tell you all" means? Any other explanation you may think of that won't include her history with hood?

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Well, define "everything". She will probably tell him everything she can tell him without compromising Hood as a sheriff. In other words, she has no other option then to continue to lie, because Gordon can't handle the truth. My prediction is that Gordon will not buy it...

So she can't tell Gordon about Deva being Hood's daughter, about the diamond heist etc.

She can tell him about Rabbit (which Gordon already knows), her childhood, she can probably admit that she slept with Hood after he came to town (which Gordon strongly suspects)
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I would say that raising his daughter, saving him at the Metalworks, shooting her own father and losing her family for Hood is more than cooking dinner. But that's just me, maybe it was a very good dinner...

I like Siobhan as a deputy, but I worry about her after last episode. We have already seen one dead squirrel this season...
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Saving him was a big deal of course, but raising his daughter isn't something she did for him. She didn't even intend for him to find out about her, ever. That's another betrayal, albeit a very small one compared to that time she set him up to be tortured to death.
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Everything Ana has done or is doing now is based on a mother's devotion and need to protect her children. Doesn't seem like Ana had that kind of parental love from Rabbit, so in her mind her sole mission and responsibility is to protect her children, even if it meant betraying Lucas. Lucas loves Ana above all, Ana loves her children above all, and the tie that binds them now is Dayva. I agree about Siobhann. Don't think she's going to last the season.
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yea she may love her kids, don't doubt that, but the love he has for her, is in NO way compared to how she feels for him. All I mean is, this cop seems more giving. Caring. And all around more loving person. He needs that.
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I know that's what we're supposed to think, but I'm not buying it. She didn't have a good enough reason to think that she could increase her family's survival chances this way.

She did it to remove the temptations that could make her screw up her family life. With Hood alive, she would cheat on her husband and commit crimes until it all falls apart.

What she did was so far beyond unforgivable that I'm absolutely disgusted by the fact that he seems to have forgiven her. I have to pretend that her betrayal never happened just to be able to continue watching the show.
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Re: Hood-Carrie vs. Hood Siobhan

Cory, you need to view it in context of Banshee's major theme, which is - tormenting of Carrie. Every single episode hits on that theme one way or another.

So you have to ask, what will torment Carrie at this point more, being with Hood (which was not easy for her earlier) or knowing that Hood may have someone else.

Carrie is near the bottom, she has no one, and losing Hood to Siobhan is clearly the winner as to what will torment Carrie more...
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First off, Alex Longfellow? I'm assuming we're referring to Alex Longshadow. (Geez, you make it worse by giving him the whitest name you could think of - not even you are giving him a break as Tribe leader.) This was like the warmup for the next episode as we're still settling in this season. The interesting part of the Jason Hood interaction was it actually played a lot like the first time Wicks rolled into town in season one. (Wicks was awesome because it took you a while to realize the actor was the Barksdale family lawyer on 'The Wire') You had Hood laying down the law to an outsider that could f' his world up fairly easily. Sugar laying down the truth was the best part. It'll be interested to see where Jason ends up and how long before he's on Proctor's radar as well. (Odds are on he gets involved with Rebecca.)

The scene with Kai at the Bowman house was made even better by the appearance of mom. The great thing about the fact that the women are so strong in this show is they are set among these communities the Kinaho and the Amish that are so male dominated. Women are second class citizens in both communities. It wasn't mom's decision to banish Kai - the men in the community decided that fate. (I think Miriam was less reluctant to allow the men to banish her daughter.) I think the Rebecca attack was from within the Amish community. These young people have been taught to ignore Rebecca. She is an affront to the community in her summer dress. Her 'buddy' set her up for one of the boys in the community. There's resentment in the community that she got out. As for star crossed Solomon. I like that they really gave us nothing on him. For now he's just an innocent kid trying to be just that. Now he's just gone. If Nola did it - it would seem maybe she was part of that gang before she left the Reservation. But why would she do that to a girl like her who just wanted to get out? I think she was just crying tears over a girl that could have been herself. I'm thinking maybe whoever did it may really want to stay clear of Nola cause she's another woman to be reckoned with in Banshee. The tear running down her face as she approached the young girl in the morgue maybe tells more about her than we've learned thus far. She didn't commit that crime.

Another day for the sad Hopewells. Carrie trying so desperately to speak to Gordon was just depressing. He's the Mayor now and in his free time he's raining dollars at the gentleman's club on a daily basis. Poor Carrie, poor Gordon. I want Hood and Carrie to reconcile because i view this as a love story but with this one there is just too much that has happened - Carrie and 'Hood' on the road with kids just doesn't make sense. Plus I think bubbling underneath the surface this season is the fact that maybe this place 'Banshee' is his safe place as well as Carrie's? Like Sugar said - there are a lot of people there that he is starting to realize actually care about him - something he hasn't had in a long time maybe his entire life. He and Siobhan - I can't help but love that one. They both realize the insanity of the choice to share a bed but at this point they are two people in this town that seem to have each other as primary support. He lives alone in a rat hole (that has seen a lot of action) above a bar and she is living in a motor home because a biker gang burned down her only possession. They were holding on to one another so closely. Its a match made in hell. Juxtaposing the frantic phone call, Gordan's most unhappy lap dance (rivaling only last weeks unhappy handy), and then Hood and Siobhan in bed in Siobhan's motor home parked - Where the hell is she living now, in the forest? I think it'll break my heart if he breaks hers.

This season's 'big guy' looks to be as entertaining as The Albino. Welcome to Banshee Cheyton Littlestone- or just Cheyton. And again we have our fearless Sheriff's department heading into a situation they aren't welcome. Which as we know in Banshee is just business as usual. Brock's dead pan retorts during the whole scene, which started off reminiscent of the approach in 'The Rave' - this time however - the rest weren't just gonna wait for Hood to be the only one getting into trouble. Brock and Yawners discussing the fact that they had once 'tried' to arrest Littlestone and then seeing this enormous - very well spoken giant. The little bits of funny this show throws in amidst the chaos.

Guess no sophomore jinx for this show. Next week's promises to be epic. Fingers crossed for a cheery reunion between Carrie and Gordan! Hood and Dept Siobhan forever -- just kidding ... but no really I'd be fine with that. You know that tune that played in the final scene of the last episode of season one, its a tune called 'Madonna' by an artist named Jude and it was like the perfect song to close out the first season - I'm gonna stop going on and on and go listen to that tune. Its an awesome tune.
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Re: cheery reunion between Carrie and Gordon

My prediction is that the cheeriness will be very short lived. "I am ready to tell you everything" will last only until the subject of Hood comes up.

Carrie can't tell the truth about Hood, his false identity. Gordon can't handle the truth. And I predict Carrie will either lie and will get caught lying, or will refuse to answer. Gordon will walk out and will go get another BJ...

How is that for predictions?
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He has to be a little suspicious now that Hood is Deva's father already? Rabbit kind of but not directly let them on to that during the most uncomfortable family reunion of all time last season. Plus Racine put it out there that they were f'ing and Carrie's response to the question wasn't very convincing. He's not going to believe anything she says anyway so 'i am ready to tell you everything' probably won't do too much for the new Mayor. I think you're on the money with your prediction. Its where is Hood's head when Carrie gets released? - that's going to be very interesting. I think she is going to need him more than ever and he's gonna be there for her. She will always be his blind spot - the woman he fantasized a life with before everything went to sh!t because of Olek's big (jealous) mouth. Still think Max is most likely to forgive mom. Deva is close to Gordon so what is the reveal of that truth to her going to do? Some people laugh this show off for its violence and sex but its so much more.
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Gordon can't really find out that Hood is Deva's father, because that would arouse Gordon's suspicion about Hood's identity, such as Hood being from New York, not Oregon. And it would be extremely coincidental that Hood got the sheriff job exactly in the town where his ex-lower lives.

Gordon would like nothing more than to get rid of Hood. He is already plotting with Brock. Which is why Carrie can't really give him any info on Hood's background. I guess she can confess that she slept with him but nothing about their shared history.

I suspect Gordon will find out Carrie is not telling the whole truth, and the reconciliation will not happen.

I wonder if Deva finds out about Hood being her father, if she can keep it from Gordon...

re: Some people laugh this show off for its violence and sex but its so much more.

I am definitely a fan of the Banshee drama, more so than the fights...
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First of all, to Mr. Barker: Cory, dude... Where did you see Nola wearing a hoodie?



That's not a hoodie, man... that's her hair.
Buddy, you got to get a better PC (or Pad?), cause something tells me the Ref on yours sucks ass. I mean, it's your job - I'm sure you could somehow put it in your taxes as a working expense.

So no... it wasn't Nola who killed the girl - if anything, her crying at the very end (did you miss that too, Cory?) actually suggests she'll burn the town down trying to get the killers. Yes, 'killers' - I'm pretty sure there's numerous people behind the whole thing, two at the very least. Wanna bet Rebecca's "friend" knows exactly who the hooded man is? Completely expecting the murderers to be Amish-related.

I personally do not shipped anybody in this show: Carrie and Hood should be together solely because they're the only ones who can genuinely handle each other's bullshit; Siobhan had a major crush on the sheriff from the get-go, so it's alright if she gets her swerve on right now, to get him out of her system, but she should DEFINITELY stay clear of a long-term commitment with this nutjob (love him, but Hood is certifiable, it's just what it is); Becca is crazy too, and would eventually asked him to do a threesome with her uncle; if Lucas had a long term relationship with Nola, she would probably end up stabbing him in his sleep. And on and on it goes... shipping is supposed to be romantic, and, obviously, there's no romance in Banshee.

For some reasons, I kinda hope Jason stick around, and become not a problem Hood has to deal with, but his protege. I know, I don't think this will actually happen, but darnit, I like the kid! Why can he join this band of misfits? Hopefully, something done the road will happen that will force Hood to make him a part of the group... or he'll end up dead. Banshee is a lot like Harlan that way - you're not gonna leave that town alive.

FIGHT OF THE WEEK:
Proctor & Clay Vs Native Mob
Those poor, dumb Native guys forgot a couple of very important equations about fighting:

Sociopath > Thug
1 Sociopath = 5 thugs

All the time. 'Best to remember this at all time, unless, you know, you don't mind getting your balls repeatedly hit on by your own baseball bat.


Seriously, nothing fight against a trained sociopath.
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The guy in the forrest is probably one of the amish elders, he seemed really clumsy and unexperienced.
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But he didn't seem that old. I'd say age 30-55. He was also much heavier than any of the Amish.
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The guy in the forest is the guy from the "Field" prequel episode.
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Guy in the hoodie in the woods was not any kind of pro. Anger, yes, but not much fighting skill.

Anyone else think the Amish girl set Rebecca up on that bridge?

Is it possible the Amish boy is the attacker in the woods? Seemed about the right size. Would explain his absence. And, he didn't seem right in the head when with the girl on the blanket.

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I thought the same thing at the time - her old amish "friend" set her up!
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Banshee season 1 was mostly known for its badass fight scene, wonderful sex scenes and the tenaciousness of the lead characters. I am liking season 2 much more because it is starting to tell better stories. It seems the writers are showing us they are capable of doing that too. This is a good sign

It still have the fight and sex scenes that made it famous in the first place thus not forgetting its roots. If the whole season is as good as the 1st 3 episodes, Banshee might just become a great series !
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I can't help but point out that the sex scenes is S1 were far better than what we have seen in S2 so far. Almost like comparing caviar and spam...
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I am not complaining as I finally got to see Siobhan naked which I did not get to see in season 1. I am also glad that the producers are giving us more of Rebecca and other girls rather than Carrie all the time.

My only hope is to see that Indian girl too.

Now I sound like a pervert :-)
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I re-watched the whole episode and the scene with Siobhan was actually pretty good. But the scenes with Carrie in S1 are still my favorite.
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I like that Hood is tough and willing to do what it takes, but he really should take the advice from Clint Eastwood: "A man's gotta know his limitations."

It was pretty stupid for him to walk into a room full of angry indians, including that massive tank and expect to come out ok.

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This kid (The real Hood's son) is either a sociopath or a terrible actor. I suspect it's the former. The show runners are not likely to allow a bad actor on this well run show.

Notice how he showed practically zero fear (or much of a reaction at all) to both having a gun pointed at his head and having a knife suddenly stabbed into the side of his hand.

Sugar was all in his face with a pretty scary threat and the kid barely blinked. No shock. No fear. No, "crap, what have gotten myself into?"

The kid is a sociopath. And this is going to cause a great deal of trouble for Hood.
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I think the real trouble is going to be coming to town looking for him.
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Good catch. I hadn't thought of that.
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Great episode in a great show. I totally ship for Hood/Siobhan.
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Another unbelievably well thought out and paced episode. Once again the whole cast was included in the episode. And they even added a few new characters with the ADA and Hood's son and Chaton. They did all of that and the episode didn't feel congested or rushed or anything other than the expertly well paced action drama that it is. And I mean expertly well paced, nothing is to dwelled upon and nothing feels like it needs to be flushed out more.

The action was again well done just enough believability to keep it interesting with a little gratuity tossed in for fun.

The case is interesting. Mostly because it is between the two groups that have the misfortune to be between Kai and Longfellow, tossing in Hood and the deputies is great. It gives Banshee the feeling of being lager than it actually is. And provides more stories for them to partake in and to have fun with.

This is such a great show.

As for the Case Notes.

Carrie is interesting because last season she went toe to toe with a mob enforcer and came out ahead. The fight with the other inmate was great, but she should be more successful in jail. However I do enjoy the trouble she is having with being away from her kids. I also liked the scene where Hood came to visit. That was great.

Pretty much he is shipped with all of them. The ADA is already looking at him and all he said was that everyone likes him. As for women in the series, I still like Siobhan, mostly because I find her the most attractive, also because her backstory seems the best one.

Yes getting hit with a bat hurts as much as it is depicted in the show. You are right to cringe.

Job likely will be back next episode to get Jason his papers. But I have an inclination that Jason isn't long for the world of Banshee.

Also did anyone think that the girl in the beginning was Nola?

This show is quickly climbing up the charts of my favorite TV shows.

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Really good episode. Looking forward to Hood kicking Chayton's ass like he did the Albino and more Hood and Siobhan sexy times (I ship them). I also loved when Sugar put Jason in his place to protect his friend, good bromance. But one thing I wanna see is Proctor's bodyguard kicking more ass. Anyway looking forward to next weeks episode.
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Banshee needs Tekken Style measurements along the bottom of the screen so we know whose winning a particular scrap. Mind you, it might be trickier providing indicators for the shagging bits...
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Ball bat to the balls was great. Sugar is great also. No one cares about Indians anyway or the Amish.
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I'll ship Hood and Siobhan. She's a good person, really hot, and not a moron. I also think she will keep his secret when she finds out (in season 3 or 4).

Carrie doesn't deserve him. She deserves to rot away in prison. But she's been a good character in all the scenes were she didn't set Hood up to be tortured to death, so I still want her released. I hope that the experience will give her a better understanding of what Hood's been through.

How ridiculous was it that she didn't get time added for the beating? It was the sort of beating that would send her to prison if she wasn't already there. But no time added, because the show needs her. It would have been better to not have her get into a fight in the first place, or to have her get beat up. That would have been a better way to get her to understand Hood better. Of course, there's still time for that to happen.

I really liked the baseball fight. I especially liked that it was one-sided and short. Thanks for not giving us one of those absurd fights where the opponents are coming at him one or two at a time until he has defeated them all.

They should have come up with a better way to justify the fight scene in the indian reservation. I don't think I like that indian warrior character. It was also ridiculous that they left him in the cell with the cut untreated. Someone at the station would have known that this could get them into even more trouble.

There was a bit too much stupid in this episode to be honest. But there's something about Banshee that makes me like it even when it's stupid. I just think it would be better if they had paid more attention to the details.

I see no reason to think that Odette Anabelle wore the hoodie When she rode that motorcycle with the helmet on a few episodes back, you could at least tell that it was a small person and probably a woman. The person with the hoodie was big and shaped like a man. Also...

"That she was wearing the dark hoodie in the final moments..."

She was NOT wearing a hoodie in the final moments. The morgue room was dark, and when the camera panned up, it looked a bit like she was wearing a hoodie, but the only thing surrounding her face was her hair. In fact, she didn't have a jacket on at all. It was just a blouse. And she was crying. That scene was just letting us know that the victim meant something to her.
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Hood was in prison for his hare brained idea of robbing a crime lord. Carrie (Ana) tried to save him from it: "I think he knows"
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I don't understand this comment. What are you replying to?
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As for Carrie not getting extra time for the beating, remember that she didn't start it and in fact tried hard to avoid it. The other girl pushed to hard. So, that probably explains why no extra time.
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The other one was provoking her (the worst was when she knocked a tray of food from Carrie's hands, saying "you got a fucking problem Barbie?"), but Carrie was the one who turned it into a fight.
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Please don't hate me for saying this but Season 1 was so much better ...

Season 2 feel like a pointless waste of time. It's like there's no story left to tell. The Indians and the Amish feuding is of no interest to me ... Not digging the fact that Sheriff Hood is basically a male prostitute. Is there a woman in town he hasn't slept yet? lmao ....

I love Becca and Kai (not together though lol), but everyone else is extremely dull and painful to watch.

I think I hate the lady cop the most ... she's so annoying. XD

ps Bring back Rabbit asap.
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I didn't really expect that my comment would cause this much debate so let me just add this in response.

- I was partially kidding about Hood (but seriously, why can't he be with one girl? Is he a sex addict? (serious question))

- Siobhan's over kill screen time. Now, I'm not sure if the actress/character was upgraded to a regular or not but her screen time is excessive and it's making me dislike her further. I never even liked her in first place, and this focus on Siobhan with Hood makes no sense to me. Their relationship consists of her "taking care of him", and nothing else. I'm supposed to believe that he has developed any kind of romantic/sexual for her? After 15-20 years loving Carrie? Like seriously? Well, I'm not buying what they are selling. Their relationship feels forced.

Rebecca/Hood makes even more sense than Siobhan/Hood together. Rebecca is far more likeable, and she's a complex and an endearing character. Siobhan; not so much.

The show should focus more on Kai/Hood's relationship, fix Carrie is in prison storyline mess, bring back Rabbit (or give us another big bad), and get rid of Siobhan permanently. At least that's what I'd like to see ...
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I think the Hood / Siobhan relationship is there mostly to make the hell Carrie is going through even worse. She lost her family (for now) because of Hood, and now she will find out (I am sure) that she is losing Hood too... It's one thing for Carrie to not be with Hood, it is something completely different to see that Hood may have stronger feeling for another woman than her...

But I agree, I can't wait for the main storyline with Racine, Carrie out of jail, plus Rabbit to resume. Also, I can't wait for the brother - the Priest to re-appear.
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Uh, as I was just saying, Lucas is like 100 shades of beautiful, and his character, as his personality is portrayed, makes him even more shades of sexy. I mean come on, if there was a bar stool available, I'd be on it too. He can't say no, it would be doing the women everywhthere a disservice.
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Hood's not a prostitute. He's not taking any kind of payment. He's just a player.
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I mean can we be serious, look at the man. Women want him, for every resason imaginable. Me included.
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"I think I hate the lady cop the most ... she's so annoying. XD"

I think this just proves that there's no female character on any show that isn't hated by someone. I can't think of any reason why anyone would find her annoying. If I had to rank all the female characters in all the shows I watch by how likely I think they are to annoy someone, she would be in the bottom 5%, maybe at the very bottom (of a list with about 200 names).
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Miriam Bowman still and will always bother me. She let a group of men decide to throw her daughter to the curb then even though she knows its gonna happen, acts pissed she went to her brother's place. Hating on Dept. Siobhan ?--> Nope - can't. Too much to like about her and the performance makes it impossible. How can anyone hate a girl just trying to survive on her own in a community filled with men, mostly just a half step above ape on the evolutionary scale. She likes that Hood's rough around the edges but its what he's willing to do for those in need that makes her completely enamored. You can just catch her looking at him at times. She's never seen that or had that which is why the truth is going to be crushing. How can anyone hate a well written female character that isn't just acting like every other girl on television? She got thrown all around that tiny room during the brawl and its her that's patching him up at her place again. If that didn't end with them getting it on then what was it going to take? My defense of a character at least one person hates - but shouldn't cause she's moved from bit player into focus this season and its welcome because the actress is good and she makes the work blues look good.

Where is Kat Moody on your list?- and what the hell happened to the Moody clan in general? (She f'd Hood because he shot her husband in the head and then showed up at his wake for food. ) The second oldest family in Banshee just kind of found the corpses and disappeared.
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Well, I said I like Rebecca ... "Sorry" that my opinion does not match yours.

Siobhan/Hood's "relationship" feels extremely forced. I find it hard to care for her especially after she vowed in Season 1 that he will want to "have" her or some stupid shit like that (argh, cringeworthy!). The acting/the writing is poor ... her storylines are of no interest to me. Everyone else has gone through much worse, just because her ex appeared in one episode and they told us that he's abusive, I'm suddenly supposed to feel sorry for her? Well, I can't because the writing feels forced ... and I can not force myself to like her.

Also, Carrie and Hood are the cannon relationship on this show, so there's that. <

ps. I like Carrie as well, not sure what does being a "female" have to do with anything but whatever. I guess you are just bitter because someone doesn't like her.
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Hood offered to spend the night just to make her feel safe or something, and she replied "when the time comes for you to spend the night, it won't be to protect me". I thought it was a great line.

The reason why it matters that she's female is that there's so much hate for female characters on online forums that there's got to be some underlying psychological reason for it. I'm not saying that you're crazy for hating Siobhan, but there seems to be something other than bad writing and bad acting that makes people hate female characters.

There was some discussion about this phenomenon after Anna Gunn wrote that article about the insane hate for Skyler White. A lot of people hate Skyler. A lot of people hate Juliette on Grimm. A lot of people hated Lori on The walking dead. A lot of people hated Dana on Homeland. A lot of people hate Carrie on Homeland, even though she pretty much is the show, and as a result, they hate the show. The characters that are hated the most are almost always women. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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I would not say Siobhan/Hood was forced, but it is just not in the same class as Carrie/Hood - at whatever stage that relation is at any given time.
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That's like 20 years of history. Of couse it's not. But, damn, Slobhan is so caring, and loving when Carrie walks all over him. Screw her. I love Slobhan, she is strong woman, and the storylines have portrayed that. She kicks fucking ass, and can then make dinner or her man. that's a freakn keeper. Let's hope his relentless dstupid obsession with a woman that let his ass in jail, will subside and not break the lady cop heart.
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Best episode of the season so far. Loved everything about it.
TBH I do not "ship" any characters, but this whole Hood+Anna story needs a break. Enough of this epic love.
I'm more interested in her coping with the jail-time.
Hope Hood's son will stick around, this will be interesting!
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I totally ship for Hood/Siobhan, though I don't see any kind of happy ever after coming there at all, or for anyone else for that matter.

I think the point of Lucas and Siobhan is to ground Hood in the role he has chosen for himself. It keeps him focused on being a sheriff and attempting to do his job. It connects him to his co-workers and his friends, and it also shows him what Carrie has had to do for the last 15 years, blend in. I think it's important because of what Sugar said to him in the premiere. "What are you going to do next?"

Yes Carrie was a thief and an adrenaline junkie, and yes those things can probably still bring her pleasure. But now the most important thing in her life is her children. Hood will never have his Carrie back. That person is gone. They are not going to ride off into the sunset with a stash of money and live happily ever after.

So what does that mean for him? Can he find happiness in another sort of existence? Being someones' boyfriend, and working a city job? Does he want to fix things with Carrie and be a dad to her kids?

Hood doesn't think long term. He deals with what is in front of his face, and his ideas about the future are abstract at best. Now he is being forced to ask himself what he wants and how it will affect others, and it's breaking him down. I don't think it's a coincidence that he has taken on two guys much larger than him in two episodes. His is the very definition of "looking for a fight."

I almost wish the Lucas' kid had been someone who never met his father. Who had sought him out because he needed to meet his dad. How nuts would that have been for Hood to have to pretend to be his father?


P.S Already missing Job.
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The only think that would top fake Hood pretending to be father of real Hood's son is if this fake son started dating his real daughter...
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Banshee is not a shipping kind of show but I am totally for Hood and Carrie. That's the core of Banshee. That's the story . This is not about finding a good woman for a man who has supposedly suffered so much.

This is Banshee . He is a thief and a fraud and an adrenalin junkie. Carrie is all those things too. He is not Hood and she is not Carrie. So, whether Siobhan is a good girl is irrelevant. She can nurse someone else. Hopefully this doesn't turn to Lost where Siobhan is now Juliet and "innocents" start thinking she's best for him.

The show is banshee. It's not about what's "best" for anyone. Its a badass show and that's what Carrie and Hood are about.

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The promo for next week's episode looks really promising.

I do not ship Hood and Siobhan. She might be more accepting of his methods now than before, and she is capable of viciousness herself when needed, but she is still ethically on a whole different level than Hood. When she finds out Hood's background, there will be fireworks, and not the good kind. I can't believe that she'll accept him then.

There is a chance that this Hood and Siobhan coupling is the story about a good person (Siobhan) being dragged down by a bad one. She might be the kind of good character who is killed at some point after figuring out Hood's secrets, either to shut her down or after ending up in the crossfire between bad guys. Siobhan is too good for Hood, and if they don't end up together, she'll have a marginally greater chance to survive.

I'm indifferent about who Hood ends up with, he seems to have a whole list of options (I wonder when he sleeps with the new ADA Alison Medding), but if I have to choose between Siobhan and Carrie, I'll have to go with the latter.
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If Nola did kill the girl, then it was someone different who attacked Rebecca and Hood in the woods later. I say that only because the person who attacked Rebecca was definitely a lot bigger than her (which Nola isn't) and also grunted like a man. The only way I could see that being Nola is if there are continuity issues and the only stunt-person they had at the time was a big dude.

Also, it may have been tough to see with a screener -- and possibly due to trying to hide your screen away from other Starbucks patrons, as I often did when I watched certain shows in public -- but Nola wasn't wearing a hoodie at the end, she was wearing a dark blue blouse and her long straight hair kinda looked like a hood. I get the sense that the scene was showing that Nola will look to seek her own retribution against the Amish or whoever she thinks killed the girl.

Otherwise, I completely agree with your review. I'm really enjoying this season and I think a big part of that is that the show feels more polished than the first and is trying to do things that make it feel more like a serious-drama (the kind you'd usually see on AMC and whatnot) without getting rid of the ridiculously fun fights and bad guys and sex scenes. They had it the first season as well, but it feels like there's more character-work being done too.

Anyway, yeah, loved the episode yet again, and Banshee is now one of the 3-4 shows I can't wait another week to watch.
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The girl was killed with a big ol' hammer, and the attack in the woods. Neither of those was Nola's style
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I thought it was being suggested that Nola was the big sister of the girl who was killed. And she was crying.
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This season is more EXCITING! the layers keeps on getting thicker.. I get it the guy chasing Rebecca was not Nola, but why was Nola crying? (she knew the gal or she killed her?) ..I think there is more to Lil Hood and whoever he is running away from so he wont just disappear to Canada like he says.
Also, Kai's bodyguard or assistant, has he ever spoken more than 3 sentences?..i used to be a little curious about him in season 1, now am just super interested..whats his deal?, and those bow ties ??..can he smile?
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Q: "Do you know what's worse than getting your testicles crushed with a baseball bat?"
A: "Getting them crushed again!" *wham*
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Anyone know what Cheyton was saying at the very end of the episode?
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I would like more Hood and Siobhan. I think they are great together but also that pertucular relationship can create some interesting storylines on this show. It can be a oppurtunity for Hood to display his conflicting emotions regarding the women in his life.

This show are really really good on telling mutible storys, like the episode this week. I almost don't even reflect on how many storyline there are going on. Not until I read the review and really see it.
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Definitely the best of the season thusfar, and possibly one of the best of the series as a whole. Very tight, and you really could get a sense of the fatigue Hood was feeling trying to keep all the 'story-lines' together. No wonder he needed some release at the end!
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I loved the episode. So much going on and just making it (kinda) expectable. I'm not in it for HoCa (CaHo/Carrod/HoN etc), cause I like all the beautiful women in the series and like to give them all a share of Hood (thus us also).
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I thought the Starbucks story was about you choking with bad coffee? ;)
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*SPOILERS* - Last season I was rooting for Ana/Carrie and "Hood" when they kind of hook back up. Now I'm happy that "Hood" finally hooked up with Siobhan. Am I wrong? "Hood" and Siobhan deserved to be happy after all the sacrifices and struggles they have endured in their lives (I know, "Hood" is not a saint, but...), but Ana also got to endure some crazy stuff (not being a saint either). What do you think? From my point of view, the only loser en this roller coaster is Gordon. He doesn't deserve what is happening to him...
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Agree with you that Gordon doesn't deserve this. I like Siobhan but I don't think it will end well or work with her and Hood simply because of his history and feelings for Cana. Plus workplace romances can be very complicated...

Great review Cory, you nailed it with your description of the series becoming more efficient. The first episode recapped the events of the season one finale, dealing with the repercussions. The second reminded us of where we are and what the show is about to quell any fears we might get.

Now the third encompassed everything from those two episodes while setting the stage for what's to come.


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Yep, need an orange is the new black crossover, maybe when Hood is freaking out and waiting to visit Anna, Jason Biggs could also be waiting for visiting hours and try and force conversation with him.

Is Banshee the sort of show where Hood has to be for either Siobhan or Carrie? Hood can have his cake and eat it, be it Rebecca cake or Nola Cake, maybe some new DA cake, he should just walk around the Forge in a gown like Hugh Hefner.

Loved the Starbucks story, always give points when you can take a review or a story and somehow make it about yourself.

Job is gonna have to make a new identity for young Hood, don't think Lucas is gonna come in and say "this from the guy I mentioned" that would be disappointing.

Is Odette some sort of killer? Saw her crying not limping so gonna ignore the fact she was dressed like the attacker.
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I thought I liked cake as much as I could already, but Siobhan cake, Carrie cake, Rebecca cake, Nola cake, new ADA cake... yummmmmmy.
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Yet again some great fights this week, I really just want to see Kai's bodyguard/assistant in an all out fight with someone, we've seen some of what he can do and the aftermath of what he can do but they've kept it kind of under wraps which I like but I also really want to see what they've been saving for us.
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"I really just want to see Kai's bodyguard/assistant in an all out fight with someone..."

that would be so cool!!! ^^
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What started to be the "murder of the week" episode ended up bringing a lot more to the table than I could have expected.

Hood hooking up with Siobhan was great.
The dialogue is really well done and, sometimes make me laugh so hard. Like hood telling the kid "I'm taking you for lunch, I'm fu***ng starving" just after almost killing him... priceless!

Proctor kicking the sh*t out of those Indians was pretty darn nice too, and that fight between the cops and the big guys was pretty epic too.

Looking forward to the next episode as usual.
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"I'm taking you for lunch, I'm fu***ng starving".
Haha that was the best part. I loved the confused expression on his face!
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T'was good. I think I can say that this season is an improvement on the first, for me.

You make a good point about how it always levels itself before getting to the point of comic. Banshee is a show that dances on a delicate thread of believability. Obviously, you must get over this to enjoy the show, but they do a good job of keeping the bigger picture in focus and feasible, even if some smaller details aren't realistic. This season has a better grasp of consequences and explaining the "but what about..?" questions we may have. It's still got the spry, chip on its shoulder, mentality, but some of the best moments thusfar this season have been the quiet ones. Maybe because you don't see them coming.

They did handle Jason Hood well. It's a bit of a cop-out, that he doesn't give a flip for his father, but the explanation made sense. It explains why it took so long for him to show up. That he probably had to hitchhike (maybe by horsedrawn carriage) in order to avoid the West Coast Rabbit, because he either stole something or someone (or both) from him.. sounds like someone else we know! Maybe they are related.
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