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    123home123

    [1]Nov 18, 2008
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    I'm watching one of the old Stargate episodes on the Sci Fi Channel, back when that other guy was on the team in place of Daniel Jackson. They're meeting with humanoid Replicators for the first time. At the "dinner", various Replicators speak, including Karl Agathon, er, Tahmoh Penikett. Could this be a true sign of Helo's origins?
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    Kondix

    [2]Nov 18, 2008
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    Fun cameo... he has the expierience to be Cylon, but I still hope he is human...
    Maybe Gaeta or Hoshi (the to-be anounced gay couple) are Cylon... so when one of them gets pregnant we gon have a second hybrid-child

    But on the other hand... if each of them Cylon SkinJobs, represents a human nature/charismatic then a gay Cylon is not out of place... homosexuality is anyway something that sticks with humanity for ages, so the Cylons should have integrated this into their 12 models,
    and his career always led him to the decision-power-centers like it was with them other final four... AND he was vital for the resistance... like the other four...

    I say the fact that Gaeta is gay makes him even more of a candidate for cylon, even when I hope, that the finally revelation will totaly catch me by surprise!

    Just a thought...
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    123home123

    [3]Nov 19, 2008
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    It kind of seems like the writers are caving into outside pressure to add gay characters as the series goes on. That's not what BSG is about. That wasn't part of the original vision in the Miniseries. I don't understand why certain groups think it's so outrageous that not every single show in existence focuses on gay issues.

    It just feels extremely forced to "reveal" that Gaeta or some other recurring character is gay If Moore and Eick thought this story line was worth pursuing, they would have done it a long time ago. At this point, it seems like it's the result of the Hollywood lobby, like a check-the-box mandatory requirement that every show that runs for long enough has a "minimum gay content". Anyway, we already had the Number Six/D'Anna scenes and the Admiral Cain/Gina relationship.

    The subjects on the show are already deep enough without the need to cover every single facet of human existence. Why not have episodes or recurring characters revealed to be violent serial killers? Or child pornographers? Or knitting hobbyists? Numismatists? Or aboriginal peoples? I just don't like the idea that an outside interest group, that has nothing to do with the quality of the show (or even the economics of the show), can just demand that the producers include certain content. It sounds too much like a sort of "reverse" speech code to me. It would be a different matter if this had been a more organic part of the series from early on and the producers decided, ON THEIR OWN, to include such content. Certainly BSG has never shied away from various social and political issues. But this feels a little too much like catering to a social interest group. I thought "the writer's vision" was supposed to be so important to so many people in Hollywood. I guess only if you have the "proper" vision.
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    Kondix

    [4]Nov 19, 2008
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    Well... I think they are going to make it work in the established BSG-story. It is kinda late to introduce this topic, they could have done it a few seasons ago... there you are right.
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    scififan12921

    [5]Nov 20, 2008
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    I agree with your thoughts on Gaeta. If it isn't integral to the story then why go there? It worked with Cain/Gina because it is a betrayal that further drives Cain and explains why she allowed such abuse of Gina on the Pegasus. With Six/Balter/D'Anna it also worked because of the nature of the characters. It also takes the funny out of the extended Pegasus scene where the Pegasus people bring new computer files to Gaeta and he asks them if they have any porn.
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    ebony_kunoichi

    [6]Nov 21, 2008
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    OMG NO! I wanted Gaeta and D together.

    I don't thnk that certain groups pressured the writers to make Gaeta gay It has always been there in the show. They want Gaeta out of the closet. The relationship he had with Baltar has a lot of gay fans who ship BSG wondering. So it's not a total surprise there. Gaeta has always been gay just like Sam's brother on Bewitched. I do agree that they should have addressed this long ago, but with Gaeta missing a leg maybe he will reflect on his lonely life and realize life is short and he should be who he is. More Gaeta is very good IMO. I love him.

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    123home123

    [7]Nov 21, 2008
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    But to start with this in the last 10 episodes of the entire series? When it's just not that important to the central themes of the show? We have the fate of humanity in the balance, a powerful civilization-wide tragedy unfolding and then we might some kind of Lifetime movie moment along with it? This is supposed to be the big close of the series, the last half season of a glorious run.

    Admittedly the writers have never explored the personal side of Gaeta that much but I don't think most people care. Not that I don't like the character but he's not central to the show. There's not a whole lot of screentime left. There are going to be some huge, momentous issues in the final episodes. (No spoilers since I don't know of any. I'm just basing this comment on the midseason finale from last spring.) I hope this doesn't sidetrack the run into the home stretch. If Gaeta turned out to be the final Cylon (which I don't think he is), then making him gay would be even more bizarre. Unless there's some predilection among Cylons for homosexuality. The other gay characters have been Cylons (Number Six, Gina, D'Anna) except Admiral Cain, who was so warped psychologically that she wasn't a "normal" human anymore.
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