Nothing much happens in this episode. You could watch the episode before and the one after and not notice you missed anything. Baltar's harem continues. Kara seems about as crazed as in the previous episode. Mutiny? Why not, she doesn't seem remotely rational! You wonder why ANYBODY would stand up for her. Chief Tyrol shaves his head because of course none of us has seen Taxi Driver. Boring, dull. Maybe they shouldn't be trying to keep us all in suspense the whole damn season... who is the final Cylon? Who cares, write a decent episode! This show used to be so great...
Have I missed something? This is the LAST SEASON of BSG isn't it?
'cause if it is, why isn't the story progressing?
. Sick of seeing Crazy Starbuck - and I'd shoot 'soothsayer' Leoben myself if I had the chance! Either give Starbuck a break or lose her, it's painful watching her and has been for a long while.
. Fed up with boring born-again Baltar. I've never really understood the purpose of this character past someone to blame for giving the cylons access to the humans computer system. If he's meant to be a metaphor for all that's reprehensible and weak in humanity then why did the writers need to make Starbuck a nutter, or Tigh a mean, alcoholic, misanthrop.
. and have Adama and Roslin taken off in Galactica for a nice vacation? Where were they?
If, as the blurb assures us, this IS the last season, why aren't we seeing more story.
We've had consecutive filler eps - yes, killing Cally off may have been an advance of some kind - but what? To turn Tyrol over to Baltar's side? To what end? Tell us already!!!
I think we've had quite enough character development over the last 3 years - now in the last year I'd like some payoff. I read something from Ron Moore before season 4 started that there weren't any filler eps in this season - well, I'd like to see the eps he's been watching, 'cause they sure aren't the ones I'm tuning in to.
If we can't have some meaningful episodes, then I'll settle for someone - at this stage I don't care if it's Barney the dinosaur - show these twits how to get to earth and get it over already.
I'd like someone to give us a hint about what happened to Starbuck while she was gone. Did she die? Is she a Cylon? Are there really gods out there watching out for them? Is it all a dream....or a nightmare!
What's the story with the Final Four of Five? Do they have a purpose? Are they on the side of the humans or the cylons? Or are they going to spend all of season 4 roaming about looking painfully confused about their role in life?
Would someone please find the episodes that actually give us some content and stop wasting our time with obscure filler.
An episode that could have been much more than it was. Still no clues to Earth, Starbucks finally lost it altogether, no sign of the Adama's or Roslin, and all Sol gets to do these days is kick the other cylons up the ass.
Here we go again! It really does seem like the writers of the show are struggling to find some plot to actually write about. Now at this point I should say that I know we are only five episodes into the season, but I seriously hope that these five shows are not indicative what's to come in terms of pace...
I should also say that on its own, it wasn't a bad episode. However the last few episodes have seemed to blur together and I think the viewers deserve some payoffs. This is the last season, so I was hoping that every episode we would gain some payoffs, if only little one's. But it looks like everything is going to be crammed into last couple of episodes instead. Seeing as that the end of the season may not be shown until 2009 - I hope that it's worth the wait.
First, my negative feedback;
Baltar's still preaching, like he has been doing every episode. We get the point now and don't really need another half an episode devoting to it please. Perhaps this is going to turn out to be vitally important towards the end of the season, and it will all start to make sense. The writers of BSG examine every single word in the scripts to make sure that it's all relevant and leading up to something, so I have faith that it will all become clear. My biggest complaint is that we are not getting and idea of what that may actually be, and so it just seems so redundant now.
There was no sign of Roslin or either of the Adama's, and the only time we see Sol is when he's coming to see the chief to tell him to "suck it up". Like every episode before. I was expecting much more interplay between Adama and Sol, as Sol struggles to hide his Cylon nature. Indeed, the best scene of the whole series so far is when Sol "Imagines" killing Adama in the first episode. That's more of the sort of stuff I want to see.
Now to the good stuff,
Starbuck going nuts, almost as if she is in withdrawal from the "feeling" that she had when she knew the way to Earth. It really comes across strongly, and I can feel the frustration of the crew as they struggle with her orders. The crew decide to act at the last minute and not follow her orders to jump to the damaged basestar and Helo relives her of command. The crew don't seem to react much to the news of the Cylon civil war, I would have expected more, but then again, they may simply not believe Leoban. After all, the crew has not seen what we as viewers have seen!
Lastly, chief Tyroll and some superb acting. The chief is beginning to suspect that someone murdered Cally and he is going to find out what happened. I can't wait until he finds out that Tory was responsible for her death, and what he will do about it. I suspect he will go straight to Adama and spill everything.
I wasn't overly convinced by the speed that the chief could accept Baltar, but I would rather that than have to watch several more episodes of Tyrol standing at the back of Baltars sermons then wondering off in a huff.
So in conclusion:
More Sol-Adama action needed,
More emphasis on the search for Earth by both Adama and Starbuck, Something for the new Cylons to do except wander around consoling each other every week.
The 'hidden' Cylons don't know what to do with themselves, Gaius Baltar's religious following is growing, and on the Demetrius people are questioning Kara's judgment (and identity). If this sounds familiar, that's because we've been treading and re-treading this ground in nearly every episode this season.
HERE THERE BE SPOILERS
Then every once in a while, a scene will come along to remind us just what we're missing out on. Tyrol finds himself attending one of Baltar's sermons (why? he doesn't know either) and Baltar attempts to draw him out with petty callbacks to the former Chief's deceased wife in an obvious ploy to get such a popular figure to side with him. This leads Tyrol to an outrage reminiscent of his attack on Callie which ends with him nearly committing suicide in his own quarters. More proof that Aaron Douglas is one of the finest actors on this show, capable of both incredibly subtle performances and explosive, emotional outbursts when provoked.
This story culminates with Gaius showing up to visit Tyrol to express his apologies in private and for the first time this season explain just what's going on in his head and what his goals are. This allows the two men to bond in a touching moment that shows that Baltar truly has grown from previous seasons, as the handshake he was looking for came not in front of the entire fleet, but in private, and he was earnestly, genuinely happy to have earned it. He did this for himself and for the former Chief, not for the publicity or the glory, which marks a true stepping stone for him as a character.
On the Demetrius, the crew is pushed to the brink as one is lost following Starbuck's guidance, and even Helo can take no more and calls for mutiny. Gaeta seconds his decision, and we know that Athena stands with them. Sam, and possibly Hotdog, are the only ones left to stand by Kara. The situation is finally tensing up and looks like we'll be getting somewhere. So what's the problem?
The problem is this takes up about four to five minutes of the episode, the rest of which is a dense re-tread of everything we've seen so far. Starbuck's crew continues to make rude remarks about her inability as captain for more than half the episode, every time culminating in her appearing from behind them and ignoring them. Baltar is preaching... and preaching... and preaching. Tory is acting all high and mighty.
The only characters who are consistently engaging remain Tyrol and Anders, who is finally taking a side with more than words. Lee, Adama, and Roslin are nowhere to be seen, and Tigh appears only for a brief moment to show that his resolve to "be the man [he] wants to be" may not be enough. The moment shows potential for the future, but that's the problem with this season so far.
Everything is being built up as potential for the future without giving us the dramatic resolutions we want - and deserve - right now. There's only so much set-up viewers can take, and while I will remain a fan of this show no matter what I know that the season has already cost the show some viewers because of its slow, ponderous pace to get somewhere we don't know it's going. It doesn't help that the characters insist on not getting anywhere. Kara, especially, comes to mind as someone who, seemingly, will do everything BUT decisively settle the issue of the crew being there to follow her orders -- why not say, "The Admiral trusted me, that should be enough for you, and if it isn't, you're all going to be in trouble once we get back!" and bring the chain of command in here, not as herself, but remind them that she is not acting alone, but with the consent of Adama and Lee? And what the hell happened to all of the music on this show? The emotional music that comes in to guide us through these characters' complex relationships, that serves to ease us into the show and make the entire experience more magical? Seems to have disappeared with the intensity of season 3.
Not all is lost, of course. The potential is still being built up for this show to do amazing things, as it has done in the past. But five episodes in, it would be nice if some of that potential started paying off, and some of the characters decided on a stance - any stance - and started successfully working away at getting toward their goals, however dark they may be. The only character consistently not treading the same ground over and over is Lee, and this reviewer wonders if his limited screentime this season has had to do with that. If he'd had any more of it, he'd just succeed at dissolving Roslin's attempted dictatorship and get elected President... before the series finale!
The battle of Starbuck vs her 'crew' come to a head following the discovery of a badly damaged and drifting Heavy Raider, onboard which they discover a Leoben. OK so this is a plausable event in such an odd plot line but I have at least one major missgiving. I do hope this doesnt imply Earth is near by because surely this would meen it would be fairly easy for the Cylons to discover it long before the Human fleet. Remember they have all the hand-me-down knowledge the Humans have, together with the advantages of a much great fleet size and longer jump capability. Very sad to see Sgt Mathias die while checking out the Raider, one of the unsung heros in my book. It also demonstrates another of the misgivings about this Demetrious jolly. I get they need equipment and crew but would they really send out so many of the top dogs. They must be short of personnel on the Galactica with so many off with Krazy-K - a quick list of those gone runs like a who's who of Pilots and support. Not to mention 4 Vipers (still no sign of the surely more useful Raptors)
The only other plot line of mention this week is centred on Tyrol/Balthar. Couldn't this have been squeezed in directly after Cally's funeral instead of dragging out for another half episode? Overall I couldn't really see the point of making it so central when there is so much else going on and being ignored - Adama/Roslin, Roslin/Lee, Cylon civil war.....all the stuff they introduced earlier but have failed to push through effectively.
So far then, my ongoing thoughts....
The series is a mess. I'm not talking about the plots, storyline, even the way the characters are developing (except Lee Adama who may as well have died in the series opener for what he has achieved since). What I'm moaning about is the lack of consistancy. Some episodes have too much going on and don't provide answers, some too little action that make them unlikely to be memorable.
I like each episode as a separate event but don't feel well served anymore. Where is the urge to fast forward time till the next installment? It seems that like many others I used to be impatient for more, but no longer. Rather than looking like being a case of the sum is greater than the parts - this series will be seen as a number of great to watch but ultimately forgettable episodes.
Score = 9 alone, 7 as part of the series so a reluctant 8!
Please sort it out Mr Moore & co, before we desert to other side
I will not apologise for going against the grain on this one, how do we go from the beginning of the end to the end itself - answer: with episodes like this one.
It builds the tension, the darker characters are brought into play, the Tyrol & Baltar scene was it not powerful television?... the board is set and the pieces are moving - Kara is the one that will question where we stand, can we trust the Cylons in anyway? - weren't they the ones who destroyed humanity? - are they the ones to save it?
As the very bones in our bodies require muscles to work - using tendons and fibres, so these episodes are the fibres, we need these to keep the parts together, the pay off will come, and when it does we will be greatly rewarded.
The journey has been long, but it has been worth every minute.
It's always difficult to review the first part of any multi-part story, because what may seem like a weakness or a plot hole could easily be resolved by the end of the tale. There's precious little resolution to be found. Most of this episode is devoted to setting up the next turn in the season arc, now that the introductory elements have been put in place.
The title of the episode refers to the famous poem by Robert Frost, in which the road less traveled is the more difficult path, yet ultimately the more rewarding. It's been a favorite literary metaphor in the arts (almost to the point of cliché), but there's a reason it works so well. We all want to believe that making the hard effort will grant us the greatest reward. It happens so little in life that it's cathartic to see it happen on the stage or screen.
In this case, the metaphor applies to three individuals, all at a crossroads: Kara Thrace, Galen Tyrol, and Gaius Baltar. The most obvious example is Kara and her search for Earth. Her "road less traveled" is through the disbelief and disloyalty of her crew; she must find a way to follow her instincts despite the roadblocks thrown in her path. It doesn't help that the journey may require trusting the one Cylon that has been her personal nemesis: Leoben.
Leoben has always been touched by a certain mystical insight, and his avatar was used in "Maelstrom" to lead Kara into the abyss. In fact, that must be one reason why she's willing to listen to what he says about her visions and destiny. She's the only one with that knowledge, however, so her decisions seem completely unhinged. To some extent, they are, but her intersection with reality has been tenuous since her return anyway. Whatever the case, she has internal justification for trusting her instincts.
The interaction between Anders and Leoben is interesting in that Leoben doesn't seem to recognize that Anders is actually one of the Final Five. Not counting D'Anna (since her model is still boxed), I would have expected Leoben to have some insight. On the other hand, Leoben's model has been on Cavil's side of the Cylon Civil War, so why would he even begin to consider that Anders would be one of his own? It's one of those apparent inconsistencies that will need to get cleared up before much longer.
Back on Galactica, Tyrol is not reacting well to his sudden free time. He's still trying to get his bearings after recognizing his true nature, and Tigh and Tory have done little to help him find a purpose. He spends most of this episode resisting the urge to give Baltar's message consideration, but it seems like a lost cause. It would be quite ironic if the newly revealed Cylons all wound up listening and following, overtly or covertly, Baltar's message about God.
Baltar continues to follow his own difficult path as he begins to believe in the possibility of his own redemption. There are a couple of ways to interpret Baltar's current arc, both of which would be equally valid based on the character to date. On one hand, Baltar could be living in the most complete example of self-delusion ever encountered. On the other hand, he could have started the journey as an opportunist and found something true and powerful within the message somewhere along the way.
The connective tissue in all cases is the impact that each individual could have on the Colonist society. Baltar's cult is slowly but surely growing, and as conditions within the fleet continue to degrade, it could begin to catch on with more and more influential members of the government. If Tyrol, a public figure with a very public breakdown, joins the cause in a substantial way, that could be the beginning of the process. Should Kara's "road less traveled" somehow produce something that ties into Baltar's new philosophy, it could go ever further. I look forward to seeing if the conclusion of this particular story confirms this suspicion.
What ever Starbuck was hearing in her head, seems to be gone
and it driving her crazy to get it back. She wants it so badly that she's risking a lot. The Chief is looking for answers as to why he lost his wife. Even thougth he has said,"she is not the one he really wanted", he settled. He knows she won't take her life and leave her son like that. And just like we have here on earth. Baltar has his own little cult. The one god. We have heard this same thing in lots movies. But! we are not sure where this ones going. Starbuck's crew has been stuck together for 58 days. They think she's crazy. And now here comes a cylon skin job, telling them there's a civil war going on with the cylons.
Leoben has been doing a job on Starbucks head sents season 1
and doing a dam go job.(whats this all about) Well thats why we watch. As for the crew. If you've ever been in the military. You follow orders. It's not a democracy. Adama has done some pretty crazy things. And we saw him get ready to shoot Cally. Helo was given and order. He refused the order an was relieved of duty. End of story. Thats mutany. Crazy or not Starbuck is in command.
I don't like filler episodes especially in long season arcs. It just seems a waste of my time. The whole Kara searching for earth and losing her mind in the process is starting to wear a little thin. It is startng to give me the impression that the writers made a mistake in season three with Kara finding Earth and everything. Are they trying to invent something to make up for the fact?
Are they trying to throw us off the scent that Kara is really a cylon and all the rest is frakking around? How convenient is it that in the middle of nowhere a damaged raider just happens to have the cylon who held Starbuck in captivity on New Caprica and jsut happens to meet her in deep space on patrol? Come on!!!
Come on guys, you have done so well up to now. You have got 15 episodes to go, and a lot of things to tie up. Isn't this just sidetracking? The mutiny should have started half-way through the episode with enough time to travel to the damaged basestar and back, and the tyrol/baltar journey could have been resolved nicely in the rest of the episode.
Is it me or is Tyrol going to do a "Taxi-driver" on us?
The Road Less Traveled was a perfect and extremely character driven episode of Battlestar Galactica and I really enjoyed watching this episode because the story was awesome, the space scenes were really cool and the ending was very good! As the crew aboard the Demetrius argue over Starbucks orders and a Cylon on board it was great to see how it all played out. Chief Tyrol is really going through some rough times with all the information he has to process after Cally's death and it was interesting to see him connect with Baltar, and Baltar with him. I look forward to watching the next episode!!!!!!!!!
This isn't really my favorite episode of the season, actually its my least favorite so far but since I think the other four were fraking awsome I'm still cool with the season. Starbuck continues to lose her mind and when Leoben shows up things go from bad to worse. Soon the rest of the crew in mutinying. Well all except Anders who's part in the little game hasn't been decided yet. Galen Tyrol is questioning his wife's apparent suicide and continues down his self destructive path. He attends one of Baltars religious services but hits Baltar when Balter brings up Cally. Afterwords they make up, kinda sorta. Baltar's cult is taking off but Tory informs him that he hasn't really hit Roslin's radar yet because he hasn't converted anyone of consequence which is why he goes after Tyrol the way he does. Tyrol would be a major get but it would put him once again against Roslin which may actually be where he wants to be. I have a few theories that I have been working on but they are just that and this episode kinda reinforces them.
1. Baltar is the dying leader not Roslin.
2. Roslin is the Final Cylon.
3. The line the Cylon Hybrid says in next ep "you will bring them to their end." can mean a whole lot of different things. It could me the end of a journey, She may just bring them to Earth but it will take an Alliance with the Cylon's who are following their true nature. (Sixes, Twos, Eights)
"I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
two roads diverged in a wood, and I --
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
- Robert Frost, The Road Not Taken (1916)
The threads begin to come together in this, the first part of a two-episode arc. Personal journeys finally start to meld with the broader series arc. Once again we are concerned with individuals - specifically Baltar, Tyrol and Thrace, but their search for identity is now merging with that second greatest driving-force in the human psyche - the need to understand.
And yes, Tyrol is a Cylon, but that does not make his need to understand any less meaningful than either Baltar's or Kara Thrace's.
As the first of a two-part arc, this story is a tough one to summarize or dissect. Until the second half has aired, one has no way of knowing on which side the coin will fall. However, there is a clue in the title: the quote from Robert Frost's poem (frequently and incorrectly called "The road less traveled" after this most famous of its lines). On the surface, there is the obvious interpretation, as stated in the final two lines:
"I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
Which stand as a declaration of the importance of independence and personal freedom: that in making a difficult decision and following it through, then one achieves a greater reward / satisfaction. However, beneath this interpretation lies another, more meaningful declaration, one evident to the poem as a whole, which suggests that once one takes a certain road, there is no turning back; although one might change paths later on, they still cannot change what has happened in the past(1).
Thus, the poem tells us, choice is very important, and is a thing to be considered very carefully. Certainly, this story works on both levels of interpretation.
Taking the first, more simplistic interpretation, one can see that Thrace, Tyrol and Baltar are now traveling along roads that are "less traveled" (harder) for a range of individual factors (e.g. Baltar facing further physical persecution; Thrace having to work in the face of an unsupportive crew and driven by an almost insane obsession, etc) - the "reward" for each of them at the end of their journeys is that much greater (Tyrol: vindication of his human identity; Thrace vindication of her single-minded obsession with Earth; Baltar, redemption for his past acts).
But put this to one side, and one can see the deeper interpretation - than no matter which path one chooses, we can never change (or make up for) what has happened in the past - also has bearing through this episode, and gives potentially greater depth to the unfolding story:
- While Tyrol's humanity may yet triumph in the face of Tory's malicious whispering and his own self-doubt, he'll never be free of the regrets he has around Cally and Boomer
- While Baltar may have a new life "of truth" and found a way to publicly wash himself of his sins of the past, he will never achieve true absolution
- While Kara might ultimately find Earth and lead the Colonials there, she will never fully escape the fact that her life has been pre-ordained from the outset as foretold by Leoben - and by extension, we the audience would do well not to forget the ominous warning given by the "first" hybrid in Razor: that there will be a terrible price to pay for following Thrace's lead.
This latter interpretation also has resonance for the development of the other players we see in this story:
- Tory: the idea that one can never make up for the decisions / acts of the past, no matter what future course one takes (or in her case, however she chooses to dress it up (acting within the will of God)) - the fact that she killed Cally will remain hanging over her and threaten her future. - Leoben: that whatever he does now to aide Kara, the passed (and particularly his revelation to her that her life is pre-ordained) will return to haunt - perhaps destroy him once and for all in the future.
- Tigh that again, no matter how he tries to deny it; no matter where he looks for answers that bring together his real identity with the death of his wife as a Cylon collaborator - he will never be free of the fact that she died at his insistence and at his hands...
So what does the episode tell us?
Within the episode, we finally see the spark that once made Tyrol who he is resurface. Yes, he is still struggling to understand himself and come to terms with his loss - but he is finally questioning the circumstances surrounding Cally's "accident". AS this reviewer stated while reviewing "Escape Velocity", it is rather surprising that the questions Tyrol is beginning to ask now should have been asked a lot earlier by other, more rational minds (like Adama). Certainly it is enough to have Tory worried, visiting him in the launch tube as she does. Clearly she hopes to try and get him to stop his questioning of the circumstances around Cally's death (as such questions would eventually circle back to her). However, her confrontation serves as a subtle underscoring of the deeper meaning to Frost's poem. For where Frost suggests that no matter what paths we chose in the lift ahead, we can never change the things we've done in the past, Tory states (in a tone suggestive that she is also trying to convince herself) that, "Whatever has gone before, whatever I have done, it doesn't matter. We can still change..."
Putting these words against the wider context of the poem as a whole and one cannot help but respond to Tory with a resounding, "WRONG!"
And within those words of hers, please notice the tacit admission of guilt about Cally's death, "....whatever I have done...." These are words that are going to come back to haunt Tory - and possibly be her undoing at Tyrol's hands. Elsewhere, Baltar continues to preach, and we discover that Tory is indeed influencing Roslyn's decisions (a question this reviewer raised when looking at "Escape Velocity"). In Baltar's case, Tory is apparently ensuring he remains free to continue preaching to the "fringes". Within his sermons we again see resonance with Frost's poem; but again, his reasoning is flawed when compared to Frost's message. Baltar suggests that looking at the past is bad; this it restricts people from achieving their full potential; and it is by looking to the future we can effectively undo - change - our individual and collective past. Thus he stands at odds with Frost's meaning. Yet within this, Baltar does have moments of great compassion - and one of these stands as perhaps the pivotal moment for both him and Tyrol in this episode: when Baltar visits Tyrol in his cabin.
Here we see Baltar, for the first time, express full and true remorse for his actions; in doing so he not only demonstrates he is now sincere in his beliefs, he also potentially moved Tyrol closer to resolving his own internal conflict. The only real question in this regard is with that resolution will move Tyrol further back towards his underpinning humanity - or closer to Tory's cold and dispassionate actions. Personally, and given Tyrol's actions as the episode opens, I suspect the former.
And notice how this meeting in Tyrol's cabin stands in marked contrast to another, similar meeting he held with someone not that far removed from Tyrol: Boomer. Back then, Baltar's actions were driven by his need for self preservation and resulted (as he knew they would) in Boomer attempting to take her own life. Here, despite the pistol lying on Tyrol's stomach, Baltar achieves the opposite. He saves a life and in doing so gives credence to the changes he is undergoing. Even so, one cannot escape the feeling that the shadows cast by Baltar's past misdeeds are so great in size, he is never truly going to step out from them...
In this regard, his sermons and actions resonate nicely with his continued Christ-like development. Last week the angry visit to the temple, this week the speaking in "parables"....But again, we all know where Christ initially ended up because of his preaching and his belief....
And catch the subtle poke at the feeding of the 5,000 from the New Testament, as a group of Baltar's followers walk the corridors of Galactica carrying baskets of food and framed by the words:
"Do you think we have enough?"
"It doesn't matter; they're not coming to be fed..."
Elsewhere, Thrace continues to unravel as she takes her road less traveled. She has a crew near to mutiny, she is living the life of a recluse, she has more conversations with herself than anyone else....and yet she, alone of everyone in this episode, gives the truest reflection of Frost's underpinning meaning in his poem.
Despite the fact she seems to be tottering on the edge of a breakdown, it is fair to say that all of the events that have shaped her through the series are now the driving forces behind her actions here. In effect: she is allowing herself to be shaped by her past - consciously or not.
In pushing for Earth, she is echoing Roslyn's determination in the face of opposition from the likes of Adama during the search for Kobol. The only real difference here is that - in keeping with everything else about Starbuck, she cannot do it by half - she has thrown herself into it full-bore and without regard for other people's perceptions of her, or any real understanding of the possible repercussions of her actions. It is for this reason that I say to all of those who keep denouncing her actions as "out of character" to go back and watch the series again...you'll find that right now, Kara Thrace (despite Leoben's statement to the contrary) is fundamentally the same as she was at the start of the series - more desperate, obsessed and confused, yes - but still the same person. ....as Helo and the crew of the Demetrius are liable to find out, because, at the end of the day, there will be a rescue of Leoben's fellow Cylons and Thrace will be vindicated in her search for Earth....for better or for worse....
...all we need is for "Faith" to show us how in particular the Cylons and humans will cement their truce, and how the themes established in this episode will continue to draw all the disparate arcs and threads together. Further questions to be resolved:
- Why is it that a humble raider can sense, across a distance of at least tens of metres, Anders is a Cylon ("He That Believeth...") yet neither Six ("Escape Velocity"), Valerii ("He That Believeth...", "Six of One", "The Ties that Bind") and Leoben ("The Road...") are incapable of sensing Tigh and / or Anders are one of their own, even when in direct contact with them (Six's beating of Tigh, Anders' and Leoben's confrontations)? (1) This interpretation is potentially the more correct when one consider's Frost's friendship with Edward Thomas, as discussed in 'On "The Road Not Taken"', by William H. Pritchard. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Department of English.
So, mostly it was about Starbuck who is really messed up and it gets even more crazy when Leoben is found on space and he says he has vital information that can get her to Earth.. and her crew is not happy with her constant course change and they do not trust a cylon and it all gets even more explosive when one of them is dead because of Leoben. And so they rise against her..
on Galactica - it is Galen who is still straggling to realize what happened with Celly and there looks to be some suspicious on his side that it was not a suicide.
Another episode that keeps stretching the storyline to accomodate the 20 episodes schedule.
Every week we keep hoping that something new will happen but it just keeps on dragging.
The plot is not moving forward. To me this is the worst season of all so far!!!!
Religious mumbo jumbo, few special effects , star of the show not even on the show...What is happening, Did they cut the budget and are obligated to write around a lowered budget meaning filler episodes?
I do hope that next week brings something better. A lot fo fans are getting impatient with how this story is just barely moving forward now.
Once again. Why are people so much against thoughtful episodes? Granted that this did not quite cut a "9" (thanks to too much fracking Gaius and Chief), but it did have its moments.
Starbuck (resurrected) has lost her head, and is putting off seeing Adama for fear of what he might say. In this state, Leoben appears out of nowhere (how the heck did he know?!) and offers an olive branch. Finally *something* happens on the Demetrius. Also, when a (random) crew member dies inspecting Leoben's ship, Kara feels guilty about it.
The crew's frustration has reached boiling point and made for seriously gripping viewing. Kara's ivory tower, make-no-sense approach to leadership leads to her own demise when even the near-perfect Helo (is he a cylon or something?) mutinies, after enforcing her rubbish orders for the entire mission. And this is *only* after she refuses to rendezvous with Galactica (as ordered), instead of jumping to an apparently damaged base star (and possibly an ambush). Finely deserved for a nut job who is off the rails.
Gaius continues preaching, but now is wearing a stupid jacket. *yawn*. Chief is still moping. *double yawn*. He then attends a "sermon", but gets pissed and assaults Gaius when he asks Chief to hold his hand, because "Cally would have wanted it". Presumptuous frack. Don't worry, you Chief/Baltar fans - they kiss and make up at the end.
Sol makes an appearance, and it seems like the whole ship knows of his exploits with 6. I'm gonna love what Adama says about that!
The meaty stuff is in the contrast of the two "religion" styles. On one hand Gaius is preaching the "ignore out past, look to the future" crap as before - and see where it has gotten the USA today. Thankfully, Tori has alerted the President of this. Unfortunately, he is not a "big enough" player to be worth an intervention. *yet*. On the other hand, Kara is trying to follow the will of the Gods, and her "special destiny". Both discard consequences too easily and make for volatile and dangerous characters.
Regarding the "alliance" that Leoben offers seemingly off the cuff, it will be interesting to see how the humans can exploit the seemingly-intractable cylon civil war. And what would make for even more compelling viewing would be to see if they break out with their own hostilities regarding the religion issue.
But the preview: OMFG the preview! Next week's episode entitled "Faith" looks like a killer. Kara appears on a basestar and somebody says "the hybrid will want to see you". A pilot on the demetrius says "she just airlocked her cylon ass", while pointing a gun at something. Athena has Starbuck (resurrected) in a head lock. Helo says "Mr.Gaeta, order the marine guards to the control room". Anders shoots somebody in the calf (I think it looks like Gaeta, but it is hard to be sure). 6 (in a suit) looks like she is hitting somebody young. Roslin looks like she has another fantasy/flashback. Athena points a gun at somebody. And we end with the words of a basestar controller "You are the harbinger of death Kara thrace, you will lead them all to their end". *phew*.
If they make Kara a fracking cylon I will fracking hurt something. I repeat: I will leave BSG and *never* return. Here's to hoping that she is dreaming, and that the cylons are mind-fracking their own (non-number5) creation.
One thing that I have always enjoyed about this show is the realistic way in which the cast portrays the roles they play. This cast is by-and-large a military organization. They adhere to a strict military code and manner of conduct. If, under those circumstances, a commanding officer (e.g. Starbuck) began acting like a total flake and those actions led (however indirectly) to the death of a crewman and then decides to disobey orders in order to continue an already dubious mission, the X.O. (Helo) had but one option open to him: Relieve her of command! Of course it wasn't an easy decision to make, but given all of the insane choices she's been making, she has brought her fitness to command into question. A leader can only lead if their troops have a measure of faith in their commanding officer's abilities. Starbuck has stretched that faith way past the breaking point.
Leoben and Kara meet again for the third time and start to finally like each other.
Among all the final five, Anders has definitely remained the same (jalooouuuuus), and Helo who can't stand this lousy triangle of love wants to go home.
I can understand why some people complain about the lack of action (space battles, gun fires and other spectacular twists), but you can't say that these last episodes are just fillers... I mean this is not like 'The Woman King' or 'Dirty Hands', theses ones were really useless.
For about three or four episodes now, we are mainly seeing the human fleet breaking apart in a non-spectacular but yet very realistic and dramatic way.
Less and less characters are willing to listen, or even understand each other.
The situation in the Demetrius is the same as in the Colonial and the Cylon fleets. Divisions are growing everywhere, even among the Final Five where we certainly all expect a confrontation between Tyrol and Tory.
Also, everybody has the feeling to move forward into the fog... and most important, above all these divisions, is that no one foresees this invisible and mysterious 'plan' almost completed, and orchestrated by an unknown force (the Final Five eventually ?).
With Baltar becoming the leader of a minor religious movement on one hand, and Kara finding a way to Earth in which almost no one believe on the other, I'm starting to wonder if Roslin was really the 'dying mythical leader'.
Remember what Six told Baltar in 'The Hand of God' episode : "The outcome favored the few and led to a confrontation at the home of the Gods".
Really, things are getting more and more exciting !
If I see O-n-e M-o-r-e T-i-m-e Baltar preaching whatever boring he is preaching or how Tyrol is spending his miserable life I am gonna start taking Hostages!
This is redicilous, filling BSG time with long and utterly boring Baltar's religious delirium. Or the Tyrol story: Tyrol is unhappy in the morning, suicidal in the afternoon, miserable in the evening, and very sad at night. The 24 hours of Chief's misery all in your screen for your joy.
In a show with so many interesting characters, for 2 episodes now we only care for Tyrol and Baltar and their repetitive routine.
And when we finaly got a 3rd plot (the Demetrious one) our happiness didn't last long: Starbuck has lost it, the crew is unhappy, Leoben talks riddles, Starbuck has lost it, crew isn't happy, Leobel keeps saying impressive things without revealing anything, Starbuck has lost it, crew is on the verge of seeking group therapy, Leoben says...etc etc etc. I thought I was watching the "Groundhog Day" in space!
At the end maybe we should summarize all this as: the way you SHOULDN'T write a filler episode OR Even fillers must have some interest.
ok ok (me talking to myself), this is only a break, good writen BSG will be back with us soon! hopefully... otherwise...Hostages!
The commentary eludes to the fact we do not see "The Old Man" Adama or The President Roslin two anchors to this show.
BSG is a great show, but I look forward to the new episodes based on my joy of the whole series so far. I rewatch season 1 on dvd all the time, these episodes are some of the best television entertainment EVER. Of course BSG falls into my personal space/Sci-fi/drama mold. My other all time favorite was The Next Generation. But this past episode was poor, Kara Thrace dragging this,, earth fascination, VISION to far. As if the writers go from episode to episode and elongate a train of thought. Now she mentions she heard that song so clear back at the Nebula. I assume maybe like the 4 hidden cylons heard that song. All probable misdirection, but new viewers to the show would probably turn her off from what they have seen this season. Starbuck is no longer "The Best Fracking Pilot in the Fleet" "The Best ShoT" "The best Card Player" cigar smoking rebel we all loved. That was believable because it was set up and executed to be that way. Now she is a whiny, Fracked up looking KooK. Heck I would throw out the airlock, that last part is just a joke. I hope the show gets on track fast. Tyrol has been above average, a thoughtful moral character whether human or cylon and looking forward to see him resolve his personal termoil. So overall the show scores a 5 out of 10. If I was trying to turn a friend onto this show and this was the first one he viewed it would be a hard sell. Thanks.
Let me just start out by saying that once again, I didn't really like this episode of Battlestar Galactica very much at all because it once again centered around Starbuck's story line for the season, and her story line has been my least favorite of all of the story lines this season. Whenever they have episodes that center mainly around Starbuck, I've thought that they were very boring, and this episode was no exception. I also didn't like that this episode didn't have Roslin in it all since she's my favorite character. I really missed her. I also didn't like that they didn't feature any of the main Cylons in this episode because their story line has been one of my favorite story lines this season. The one thing that I liked the most about this episode was Balatar's story line, but I really wish that they had focused more his story line and less Starbuck's story line. All things considered, I did really care for this episode very much at all, and I really hope that the story lines in season four start picking up the pace and the show starts to improve again.
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