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Predacons won the Beast Wars?I don't think so

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    RaizenYusuke

    [1]Jan 15, 2007
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    Did anyone else feel that Maximals really did win the Beast Wars and not the Predacons?Megatron and Optimus both express that the Maximals lost.True that Megatron took over Cybertron,but he didn't take over because he won the Beast Wars.Megatron had three plans to take over Cybertron that invoided wining the Beast Wars and he failed in all three areas.

    The first area was stealing enough energon to power an entire Predacon army so they could destroy the Maximals and take over Cybertron.Things didn't go as planed the Maximals stopped Megatron everytime he was about to get real big amount of it.In one episode Terrorsaur even said they barley had enough to keep themselves and their base powered up.

    The second was to steal Vok technology and use it to conquor Cybertron and once again he failed the Maximals always stopped him before he got control of any of Vok's most powerful weapons and lost the second golden disk to boot making it impossible to find anymore Vok weapons.

    The third plan was his original plan to go back in time and kill the orginal Optimus Prime before he woke so that the Deceptacons would win the Great War and would led to the Predacons ruling Cybertron in the future.He came close to doing so he still failed to change time.By the end of the Beast Wars Megatron lost his soilders,his base,and lost a all powerful Deceptacon battle ship to boot.He was captured in tied up to the Autobot ship Omega Delta.Megatron escaping and surviving the transwarp was pure dumb luck.

    Here's how I see it Megatron escaped the transwarp and some how made it back to Cybertron ahead of the Maximals.So Megatron goes into hidding and some how comes up with the idea to create a transforming locking viruis(one that de-evolves transmetals)and create a new race of transformers to replace Maximals and Predacons.Since no one knew Megatron was still on the planet or that this version of himself(his past self could have still been on Cybertron) He wasn't being opposed by anyone until he developed the virius and at least some Vehicons.And didn't strike until his past self stole the golden disk and left Cybertron so he wouldn't indanger his own existense.My point is he wouldn't have done any of that if the Predacons had actually won the Beast Wars,the way he took over Cybertron seemed to totoally contrdict his original plans.

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    ISpeakTheTruth

    [2]Jan 21, 2007
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    I think it was more of a Maximals lost than the Predacons won kind of thing.

    The Maximal's agenda was to stop Megatron and bring him back to Cybertron for justice but at the one yard line they fumbled the ball and let him escape then because they failed to bring him in he was able to take over Cyberton. So it was more of a Maximal's blew it than the Predacons beat them.

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    RaizenYusuke

    [3]Jan 22, 2007
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    That's kind of my point the Maximals won the Beast Wars,but Megatron was able to conquor the planet.Like Megatron lost the war,but started a new war which he won(due the absents of Primal's Maximals).Kind of like those what if senerios.Like a superhero is sent into the future and their absents allows their arch enemy to conqour the world.

    In way Megatron lost,but won and the Maximals won,but lost.
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    Darc0666

    [4]Feb 1, 2007
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    Basically, the Maximals did win the Beast Wars but Megatron managed to escape on the return trip to Cybertron and survived (barely) and then took over.
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    LLXC

    [5]Mar 10, 2007
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    He probably got the virus from Tarantulus.
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    OptimusShr

    [6]Mar 15, 2007
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    LLXC wrote:
    He probably got the virus from Tarantulus.


    Who's to say he didn't develop it himself?
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    Alphrin

    [7]Mar 19, 2007
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    OptimusShr wrote:
    LLXC wrote:
    He probably got the virus from Tarantulus.


    Who's to say he didn't develop it himself?

    There's no way to know. Any number of plausible events could have occured that would allowed Megatron to obtain the virus.
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    OptimusShr

    [8]Mar 21, 2007
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    Apparently the Universe comics released during the BotCon conventions say that Cryotek (A repaint of TMII Megatron) developed the spark extractors and plotted the theft of the Golden Disk and that Megatron beat him to the punch. However if these are canon or not is debatable.

    Megatron was never seen to develop viruses, Scorponok and Tarantulas did that. However he may have studied their notes and research.
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    The Maximal's agenda was to stop Megatron and bring him back to Cybertron for justice but at the one yard line they fumbled the ball and let him escape then because they failed to bring him in he was able to take over Cyberton. So it was more of a Maximal's blew it than the Predacons beat them.


    Essentially what Nightscream said in one episode. However it was not really that the Maximals blew it. Chaining him to the hull of the shuttle was a good idea. He could have taken over the ship otherwise. I personally think it was luck that allowed Megatron to survive after he left transwarp. He could have very well ended up stranded on a moon or planet without energon where he would have died from energon depletion.
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    Massacist

    [9]Nov 2, 2007
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    Basically the Maximals won the battle(Beast wars), but lost the war(Cybertron)
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