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    airraptorxrc

    [21]May 8, 2006
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    Beast Wars was a little ambiguous about the fate of sparks when they're "extinguished" - Dinobot (Code of Hero) and Optimus Primal (Coming of the Fuzors) both are said to have enter the Matrix on their termination, while characters like Rampage, Inferno, and Quickstrike had fates that were a bit more open to interpretation.

    Confusing the issue even more has been the various treatment of the term "Matrix" throughout Transformers history up to Beast Machines. When the Matrix of Leadership was introduced in the movie, it was a treated as an item of great power - a repository for all the wisdom collected through the ages, and the only thing that could destroy Unicron. In the comics, the Matrix of Creation was an item Optimus carried that could not only destroy Unicron, but also acted as the "Vector Sigma" for their race. Both cases, the Matrix was an item of power.

    Beast Wars complicated the issue futher when Bob Forward and Larry DiTillo wrote the series "bible". According to their bible, the Matrix and Inferno (later the Pit) were the foundaries where Maximal and Predacon protoforms were built, respectively. Rhinox's mention of "the Matrix" in "Fuzors (2), made things a little more ambivilent, but it was Beast Machines that nailed the Matrix as the "realm where sparks originate and go".
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    PrimeGod

    [22]Jun 9, 2006
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    Darc0666 wrote:
    I am the King of Beast Wars. I know everything about the Beast Wars television show. Post your questions about the show here and I will answer them.


    Bet you dont know wat the pit is
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    mike-mavinsky

    [23]Jun 9, 2006
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    Edited on 06/09/2006 6:18pm
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    mike-mavinsky

    [24]Jun 9, 2006
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    Why did Terrorsaur only become Transmetal in the toy line and not in the TV show?
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    airraptorxrc

    [25]Jun 12, 2006
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    PrimeGod wrote:
    Bet you dont know wat the pit is
    According to Beast Wars' series bible created by Forward and DiTillo, the Pit is the foundary where Predacon protoforms are constructed. Fans have also come to view the phrase (which was originally "the Inferno" before the arrival of ol' blender butt) as sort of the Transformers variation of Hell.

    mike-mavinsky wrote:
    Why did Terrorsaur only become Transmetal in the toy line and not in the TV show?
    The reason for Terrorsaur and Scorponok's demise in the second season opener "Aftermath" has its basis in the limitations of the show. During the time Beast Wars was produced, CGI technology was extremely expensive, especially for a show like this. The writers and animators were limited to a total of 14 characters (7 per side), which, during the 1st season, meant the animators had to make at least 2 animation models per character. With the arrival of the Transmetals, which gave at least 5 characters an extra form, and the introduction of the Fuzor characters, certain characters had to go.

    It should be noted that Waspinator, not Terrorsaur, was originially slated to be "offed", but the writers convinced Hasbro and the producers that Waspinator was a more popular character with fans.

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    RaizenYusuke

    [26]Jun 21, 2006
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    Did Megatron become insane in the last episode?He said he was going to destroy the Ark,but he would have destroyed the Decepticons along with the Autobots,wouldn't it wipe out the Predacons along with the Maximals?
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    airraptorxrc

    [27]Jun 23, 2006
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    It was observed as early as the second season that Megatron's quest for power was making him insane (Dinobot says as much in "Maximal No More"). It is quite possible that, with his link with G1 Megatron's spark and the power of the Nemesis under his control, Megatron's megalomania finally overwhelmed whatever sense of logic he had left.

    It could also be explained away as a simple plot hole the writers failed to consider.
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    IceMasterZ

    [28]Jun 24, 2006
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    Darc0666 wrote:
    I am the King of Beast Wars. I know everything about the Beast Wars television show. Post your questions about the show here and I will answer them.
    Do you know who Tarantulas descended from
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    ISpeakTheTruth

    [29]Jun 24, 2006
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    airraptorxrc wrote:
    It was observed as early as the second season that Megatron's quest for power was making him insane (Dinobot says as much in "Maximal No More")
    You know I have found Dinobot's line very ironic. "Your ambition has made you insane Megatron you will end up destroying both Maxmal and Predicon." And he was actually right because in Beast Machines Megatron removed the sparks from every transformer on Cybertron. Both Maximal and Predicon alike.

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    airraptorxrc

    [30]Jun 26, 2006
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    IceMasterZ wrote:
    Do you know who Tarantulas descended from


    It's never explicitedly explained. The episode "Other Victories" was originally intended to be a two parter that explained both the origins of the Vok, the nature of their experiment, and why Tarantulas hated them so much. Megatron's comment of "Unicron's Spawn" in "Nemesis (1)" has been viewed by some fans as a hint to Tarantulas' origins, but it could also be viewed as a simple insult.

    There are two possible origins for Tarantulas and the members of the Tripredacus Council. One comes from the G2 comics, which featured a "third" faction of Transformers, led by the infamous Jhiaxus. The other comes from the original series, which featured the Quintessons as the creators of the Cybertronians, and would go on to construct the original Predacons and Terrorcons. The Botcon Comics use the latter explaination, but as their place in the continuity is dubious at best, most fans tend to ignore them.
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    IceMasterZ

    [31]Jul 1, 2006
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    Any of you guys seen this http://www.transformersmovie.com/ check it out

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    Clockerevac12

    [32]Jul 2, 2006
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    Why did Hasbro dubbed Airazor a Female than Male was it the Same reason with Cybertron Override

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    vegnegun

    [33]Jan 14, 2007
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    Darc0666 wrote:
    I am the King of Beast Wars. I know everything about the Beast Wars television show. Post your questions about the show here and I will answer them.

    Wow, so much for 'the King'...

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    blackmagechris1

    [34]Jan 17, 2007
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    Why didn't the members of the Ark, Nemesis, Skyfire, Insecticons, Dinobots, and Shockwave weren't turn Transmetal from the alien explosion. (Beast Wars follows both the cartoon and comic.)

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    Why did Hasbro dubbed Airazor a female than male was it the Same reason with Cybertron Override
    The reason why Airazor is a male in Japan because Japan thought that female character toys don't sell well. The reason Override is female in America is because Cartoon network wanted more females characters in the show.

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    airraptorxrc

    [35]Feb 20, 2007
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    blackmagechris1 wrote:
    Why didn't the members of the Ark, Nemesis, Skyfire, Insecticons, Dinobots, and Shockwave weren't turn Transmetal from the alien explosion. (Beast Wars follows both the cartoon and comic.)


    Beast Wars follows the cartoon more closely than it does the Marvel comics, though elements from the latter were used (ie Primus). If one goes by the cartoon, then Shockwave is still on Cybertron, the Insecticons were elsewhere, and the Dinobots weren't built yet. As for Skyfire/Jetfire, he's buried in ice in polar ice, so it's likely the quatum particles never reached him. If you go by the comics, then Jetfire hadn't even been constructed at that point.

    It also depends on the angle; the Ark and Nemesis may not have been in the line of fire when the surge hit the Maximals and Predacons. Remember also that 1) Nemesis is underwater, 2) the Ark is inside a volcano, and 3) Nemesis is apparently empty when Tarantulas found it. Teletran 1 could have also protected the Ark occupants; unlike Sentinel, which had been beat to heck, and operating on a damaged system anyway, Teletran 1 was possibly operating at full power. Also, because of their larger size, the Autobots and Decepticons could have also given them the ability to absorb the energy without undergoing a change, unlike certain Maximals and Predacons.

    In short, there are a variety of explaination of how the Autobots and Decepticons could have escaped Transmetalization. The only limit is a fan's imagination.
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    RaizenYusuke

    [36]Feb 21, 2007
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    What do people think about Rodimus Prime is he a legend or war hero to the Maximals?Optimus Primal recgonized Uncrion,but some fact about the Great War are considered legends on Cybertron now.
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    airraptorxrc

    [37]Feb 23, 2007
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    It's not clear how much of an impact Rodimus may have had on Transformers history and thus is subject to speculation. Just as there's a time skip between the second season of the original series and the (1986) movie, there is a MASSIVE gap between "Rebirth" and "Beast Wars." We're told that there's been 3 centuries of peace since the end of the Great War, but we're never told how long that war lasted. It's possible Rodimus took command again in the later years, or Optimus stayed in command, or a new leader stepped up to the plate. The writers left much one's own imagination.

    I should mention, before someone tries to argue the point, that the Transformers series that were produced and aired in Japan, from Headmasters on, are not officially considered canon in Hasbro's G1-verse.
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    RaizenYusuke

    [38]Feb 23, 2007
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    I was more of talking about when Rodimus destroyed Uncrion.If that battle is considered legend now or if only certain Maximals and Predacons know of Rodimus Prime(Maximals Elders kept some things about the Great War restricted i.e. Starsream)It would seem like the Maximal Elders would want to keep the Matrix of Leadership a secret,but Optimus and Rhinox mentioned it in Optimal Situation which would seem to suggest this idea.

    How does Dinobot know he was suppose to die defending the pre-humans?It was suppose to be the Golden Disk had it recorded,but there are many problems with this.The Maximals destroyed all of their technolgy that was in the Ark and supposedly finish off any lingering Predacon tech.Why would they risk changing histroy by writing down the events of Code of a Hero?Humans can't possibly have written the events down.Even if they had the legend would most likely have been different from the actual event that Dinobot couldn't have possibly have known it was refering to himself.
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    Aldrius

    [39]Mar 3, 2007
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    He was questioning his own exsistance, whether anything he did really mattered. Then he believed that Megatron had reached god-hood and that he was going to win the Beast Wars. So he switched sides. (But switched back after he realized that Megatron was mad.) This caused him to begin to question whether he was intended to die a hero, or live a villain. (With no basis for why those were his options. Just a feeling he had I guess.)

    In the end, we know what he chose.
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    RaizenYusuke

    [40]Mar 3, 2007
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    In Coming of the Fuzors Dinobot got both Golden Disk he questioned if time could be changed and if it couldn't did that mean that event would happen(I assume is Code of a Hero). Later in Code of a Hero he made comments that lead us to believe he knew the battle would happen.
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