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    stellarchick86

    [21]May 4, 2009
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    I dont know if this has to do with ethics of the show or just more or less me getting annoyed with Kelly but I have another one. She incredibly annoyed me during that whole 'save the abandoned baby' crusade (as Ive been watching s8 I remember these things) Now if I saw an abandoned baby I would go to the mother and ask her whats up and see if she could care for it but I wouldnt practically beg her to raise it considering that 1.) she abandoned it, at night, in front of an empty building (what if no one saw it?!) enough said right there and 2.) shes a teenager, what if she does it again??! Yet instead of giving it over to social services so a family who may not be able to have kids and who can provide/love it more she wants it back with the mother (I understand the mother has rights, it is her child, but she slammed the door in Kellys face while saying no. She had her chance). So then Dr Martin finally persuades her to give it over and she doesnt want the gay couple who can provide for it alot more and cant have kids themselves to have it because she wants it for herself. She is just so unfuritating. Its like the things she finds to be a big deal I dont (going on about Brandon watching pornography or whatever- who cares, what guy doesnt?!) and the things I do find to be a big deal shes just like eh.

    Also, back to what LAWelk was saying about Janet/having the baby, look at Steves SL in early s8 where that girl, Jodi, came to him and she said she was pregnant. They (including Steve) made it seem like the girl wasnt going through anything either like SHE was ruining HIS life and she wasnt scared/undecisive about what to do. It wasnt like she was saying we have to get married and raise this kid together and be this happy family, she wanted nothing from him. Yet he kept saying things like "what about my choice..youre ruining my life..etcetc".


    S8 was very annoying when it came to ethical dilemas and choices the characters made, Ive noticed lol

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    wilezrules

    [22]Sep 6, 2009
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    Seasons 9 and 10 were certainly very weak. But there were some good things. Dylan-Kelly was well written (I know im in the minority there). Upon further review, I absolutely love Steve- Janet. They had a very good chemistry together, and really carred the final 2 years. The main problem is the fact that there were so many non-originals in the final 2 seasons. Matt, Noah, Gina, Janet etc. Dylan was brought in at the last ditch effort after Brandon left, and right out of the gates, the writers show there creativity by re-hashing his Season 5 story (do drugs and nearly kill himself), minus the drama.

    Season 1: Introducing characters, just feeling everything out

    Season 2: Taking more chances and putting together storylines that flow from episode to episode

    Season 3: Really took off with the Dylan-Brenda-Kelly love triangle

    Season 4: Top to bottom, probably the best season. All of the episodes were strong

    Season 5: A very close 2nd to Season 4, introduction of Valerie, who was great.

    Season 6: A mixed bag, but some really good stuff at the beginning with Dylan's exit, Kelly doing drugs, Steve and Clare were always fun. But some really bad stuff with Kelly and Tara.

    Season 7: Pretty weak season, as the writers clearly were running out of ideas. There were some really good episodes, but overall, doesn't match up to the previous 4 seasons.

    Season 8: Had some interesting ideas, as the gang set off to the real world. The Brandon-Emma thing was a good idea in theory, but... Affair-Break up-Make up-Wedding all in the 2nd half of the season, all a year after Brandon and Kelly finally got back together after 2 years of teasing it. Good storyline, bad delivery. Then capped off with the non-wedding. Not good, and pretty much laid the foundation for...

    Seasons 9 and 10: See Above

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    LAWelk

    [23]Oct 6, 2009
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    QUOTE="stellarchick86"]I dont know if this has to do with ethics of the show or just more or less me getting annoyed with Kelly but I have another one. She incredibly annoyed me during that whole 'save the abandoned baby' crusade (as Ive been watching s8 I remember these things) Now if I saw an abandoned baby I would go to the mother and ask her whats up and see if she could care for it but I wouldnt practically beg her to raise it considering that 1.) she abandoned it, at night, in front of an empty building (what if no one saw it?!) enough said right there and 2.) shes a teenager, what if she does it again??! Yet instead of giving it over to social services so a family who may not be able to have kids and who can provide/love it more she wants it back with the mother (I understand the mother has rights, it is her child, but she slammed the door in Kellys face while saying no. She had her chance). So then Dr Martin finally persuades her to give it over and she doesnt want the gay couple who can provide for it alot more and cant have kids themselves to have it because she wants it for herself. She is just so unfuritating. Its like the things she finds to be a big deal I dont (going on about Brandon watching pornography or whatever- who cares, what guy doesnt?!) and the things I do find to be a big deal shes just like eh.

    Also, back to what LAWelk was saying about Janet/having the baby, look at Steves SL in early s8 where that girl, Jodi, came to him and she said she was pregnant. They (including Steve) made it seem like the girl wasnt going through anything either like SHE was ruining HIS life and she wasnt scared/undecisive about what to do. It wasnt like she was saying we have to get married and raise this kid together and be this happy family, she wanted nothing from him. Yet he kept saying things like "what about my choice..youre ruining my life..etcetc".


    S8 was very annoying when it came to ethical dilemas and choices the characters made, Ive noticed lol

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    Stellarchick, I'm with you.

    For me, season eight was beyond pathetic with ethical dilemas. Let's take the entire "rape" case of Valerie.

    Now, I'm not the first one to think that Valerie is a completely honest person, however, she did have rohipnol in her blood stream, so wouldn't that alone, make her story credible?! Further, DNA testing? I mean please, wouldn't they have tested her for sperm samples on the rape kit....come on. And then.....they were so ready, especially Kelly, who should know how easily it is for a woman who claims rape to be the victim on the stand, she was a psyche major, who worked in a free clinic and saw abused woman......HELLO?!

    But, they don't believe Val, and Noah shows up, with a script, written in Noah's brother's name, and they believe him?! Um, why? Hadn't he lied about his identity? Oh, but because his motives were "pure" and he is a man all is fine and he's forgiven. Come on!!!!!!!!

    But, if you don't like Valerie, and think she is a liar and has a less than stellar record, look at well Noah. Noah, is named one of the "hottest bachelor's in LA" after he killed his fiance in a car accident and was on trial for rape, even though he was acquitted?! Um, yeah, he's a catch? And, Donna is more upset with Noah that he didn't mention him having a girlfriend than she was having 'raped' Valerie.

    And when Noah's friend Gwyneth comes to town, he doesn't introduce Donna as Donna, his girlfriend, he just says, "My girlfriend"...um no identity?! Very interesting.

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    stellarchick86

    [24]Nov 5, 2009
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    ^^Wow, LAWelk, very interesting. I didnt catch most of the things that you did. After I posted that above about s8 I stopped watching soon after because my stupid tivo stopped recording them right around that time so I wouldve needed to catch up and was just like "eh whatever". So I forget alot of these things. I basically remembered the basics about Vals 'rape storyline', but usually space out during the actual court room stuff LOL.
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