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Discussion Thread: 4x13 "Face Off" *Season Finale*

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    aldaros23

    [1]Oct 3, 2011
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    Start speculating! Season 4 finale airs October 9th, 2011! Beware spoilers below.


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    aldaros23

    [2]Oct 6, 2011
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    I think two people will die. Just don't know who.
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    Harry9295

    [3]Oct 9, 2011
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    Someone will definitely die. I just don't know who!!
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    Jemadari

    [4]Oct 10, 2011
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    Epicness all around and "Face Off", how aptly named was this episode,I did not see that coming


    I was really hoping Walt was behind the kid's illness so that ending scene was nice


    Loving that Skyler now has a glimpse of Walt's true nature


    As much as I love to keep a good thing going and this is definitely a good thing if they had added a montage at the end they could have wrapped up the series as far as i'm concerned


    I don't really see where we go from here Walt has a successful business and Jesse had an assload of cash and a family but really looking forward to finding out

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    Adhoc69

    [5]Oct 10, 2011
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    What a great and satisfying finale to an outstanding season.


    I was kind of expecting that they would withhold the conclusion until season 5 (remember the agonizing cliffhanger of season 3, anyone?) but pulling it off as they did was just the thing I hoped for.


    I'm very excited for season 5 since I have absolutely no idea where the story is going from here on, but I guess it will have something to do with Hank seeing through Heisenbergs game and Jesse learning the truth about Brocks poisoning and maybe even Janes death.


    But who knows, right?!


    This show always did an excellent job at surprising its viewers and the final season certainly won't be an exception.


    I just hope we don't have to wait for it as long as we did last year...

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    D-blaze34

    [6]Oct 10, 2011
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    Bravo. A masterpiece. Brilliant season. This could have seriously served as a series finale and have had me satisfied. Only wish Walt had put on Heisenberg's hat after Jessie left.



    Where do we go from here folks?


    The obvious move would be a season to do with a DEA investigation or confrontation with Jessie over Brock but that seems to easy.


    He has enough cash and a successful business but does Walt now crave the power of an empire like Gus?


    Do we see the return of the cancer in a symmetrical full circle type ending?


    Man I hope I haven't even thought about what they might do as I like the twists too much.


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    MikeMuller1

    [7]Oct 10, 2011
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    Saw this coming ever since Esposito signed for a new show in April, and once I knew how the final episode was called it was pretty clear. Shocking and brilliant moment despite that.

    For the remaining 16 episodes (which will probably be broadcast over the next two years) I guess it will come full circle. In the next eight episodes we will see Walter go big. They're pretty much doing a foreshadowing here, Gus is Walter, Walter is Gus.

    Gustavo Fring is a fake name = Heisenberg is a fake name
    Los Pollos Hermanos = car wash
    Gus wants to enter the business and is forced down by the kingpin = Walter wants to enter the business and is forced down by the kingpin
    Gus cooked white meth = Walter cooked blue meth
    Gus' nemesis is sitting in a wheel chair = Walter's nemesis Hank is sitting in a wheel chair

    Those are just a few I came up with. Just like Gus was down at the beginning of this season and then slowly rose to new heights, Walter was down in the latter half of this season and just reached his first victory at the end. So next he will rise even more and then at the end he will suffer the same downfall as Gus.

    He has enough blood on his hands now that he can't unbreak bad. There is only one outcome, there is no happy ending. Or there is. For Jesse.

    For Jesse I imagine he will make it out alive and live a nice life with his friend and Brock. Walter will be brought down by Jesse. When he finds out what Walter has done with Jane and Brock and the airplanes that crashed because of Jane's death ... he will go to the DEA and bring him down together with Hank. Walter will go to prison and the prison doctor will tell him cancer is back, this time for good. Oh, Saul will make it out alive as well.
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    KamakaLo

    [8]Oct 10, 2011
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    Why should Jesse get to live a nice life and work with Hank to bring anyone down? He killed a man and also did the cooking with Walt. If Walt goes to prison so should Jesse.
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    tuckgraph

    [9]Oct 10, 2011
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    Great finale! At the end, it seemed like someone was watching Walt and Jesse. There was a shot from the shadows, and someone was breathing. Hank? Mike? Maybe it was just a foreshadowing of things to come. Also, on his way out, Walt looked inside a car, maybe at a medallion hanging from a rear view mirror. I didn't record it, so I'm not sure. Either way, there's plenty of material for another, final season.

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    waterlady03

    [10]Oct 10, 2011
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    I'm guessing that there will be a showdown in the series finalebetween Jesse and Walter when he learns that he poisoned Brock. Idoubt it was intentional, but he had to do itbecause hewas afraid thatGus was going to kill him and his family. I know it was wrong,but ifWalt hadn't poisoned him,they would've died and he wasn't willing to take that gamble. I don't know ifJesse willfind out about how Jane died, although IknowBrock would be a bigger factor since he came to love him like his own son. I think there's a lot of things that could happen in season 5.

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    MikeMuller1

    [11]Oct 10, 2011
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    tuckgraph wrote:


    Also, on his way out, Walt looked inside a car, maybe at a medallion hanging from a rear view mirror. I didn't record it, so I'm not sure. Either way, there's plenty of material for another, final season.


    Walt watched the Pollos Hermanos medaillon in Gus' car. BTW another simile. Gus' cartel boss had a medaillon and it was still there when he was gone. Same with Gus'. Guess what's next for Walter White?

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    Pb_BigFan

    [12]Oct 10, 2011
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    Awsome finale. Although the death of Gus was kind of expected since most predicted that either him or Hank would go, it was still surprising how it went down. And Walt replying by saying ''I won'' instead of saying along the lines of ''We're safe'', it shows the path this character has gone.

    Prediction for season 5?

    Obviously a showdown between Heisenberg and the DEA (or rather Hank). And also between Jesse and Walter. I think when Jesse finds out, he'll expose Walt (Might kill him, but I doubt it). I think Walt will kill himself in the end to ''Break the bad''.
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    DarioAgesilao

    [13]Oct 10, 2011
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    to me, it was the best episode!.
    someone should give Mark Margolis a prize or something.. imagine Stallone trying to have such an expresive character only with a ringing bell and a wheelchair.


    Everything was so perfectly done here. I have to say, I never agreed that maybe mr white had poisoned the kid...
    and the only thing I´m missing here is what happened or where is mike?

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    chilipalm

    [14]Oct 11, 2011
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    DarioAgesilao wrote:


    to me, it was the best episode!.
    someone should give Mark Margolis a prize or something.. imagine Stallone trying to have such an expresive character only with a ringing bell and a wheelchair.


    Everything was so perfectly done here. I have to say, I never agreed that maybe mr white had poisoned the kid...
    and the only thing I´m missing here is what happened or where is mike?


    Mike got shot remember? He's out for weeks. They'll probably bring him back next season to get revenge or something.

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    chilipalm

    [15]Oct 11, 2011
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    I hope Jesse doesn't find out about the poisoning. That would be predicable and lame. They need to think outside the box to top this past season.

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    DavidJones39

    [17]Oct 12, 2011
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    Some of the music in the finale was by Apparat. Goodbye was used during the scene with Hector and Gus.

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    captou

    [18]Oct 14, 2011
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    Loved the final! But I was wondering, wouldn't the DEA be able to look at the CCTV footage from the old people's home and see Walt in it?
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    jrosace92

    [19]Oct 16, 2011
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    captou wrote:
    Loved the final! But I was wondering, wouldn't the DEA be able to look at the CCTV footage from the old people's home and see Walt in it?


    thats exactly what i said in my "Plot Hole" topic. idk how he'll get out of that
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    captou

    [20]Oct 17, 2011
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    jrosace92 wrote:
    captou wrote:
    Loved the final! But I was wondering, wouldn't the DEA be able to look at the CCTV footage from the old people's home and see Walt in it?


    thats exactly what i said in my "Plot Hole" topic. idk how he'll get out of that


    sorry I didn't see that! but i agree, you'd expect that an old peoples home has cameras at least somewhere - so if they see walt on it they will go after him - if they are gonna ignore that angle that would be a bit unrealistic i think. so hank definitely plays a big part next season in all this since he was right about gus. i wonder if the truth will come out. but i can't imagine walt going to prison, i guess there is always the possibility that his cancer returns. also, there is a vacancy now - in the meth business, so we will see what happens about that. there are so many possibilities, i can't wait!
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