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Most annoying plot omission from BTVS?

Which of these would you have most liked to have seen?

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    MLionhart2

    [1]Jul 22, 2009
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    These are just examples off the top of my head, and the last one was just to fill out the poll. I find it annoying that we hear Xander's whole "I turned mean" speech and all that, but not Buffy's shoving him off and knocking him out. It's that sort of thinking that leads to Warren coming back, but not Tara. And Xander's lie to Buffy, and Willow finding out about it during 'Selfless' just begs for Xander getting one of those angry speeches from Buffy that he loved giving her so much(as well as a well-earned punch to the face). And in a similar spirit, I think everyone is annoyed that we didn't see Xander confront Oz after finding out Oz had an affair, and Willow walked into traffic. Also, I think it would have been good to mention somewhere who pulled Angel from hell, since it would have been useful plot development, potentially helping keep Buffy from drifting storywise after Season 3. Also, I was wondering if anyone wondered the final question themselves.

    Feel free to post your own examples.

    Edited on 07/22/2009 12:35am
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    mendelier

    [2]Jul 22, 2009
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    I have always wondered why Spike was never cursed with a soul, he was much worse than Angel.
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    Lary0988

    [3]Jul 22, 2009
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    I still want to know who brought Angel back, my theory was always that maybe it was the powers that be since they were such an important part of Angel, but they were never acknowledged on Buffy so who knows.
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    ChosenOne310

    [4]Jul 22, 2009
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    Even though I like Xander I'd like to see Buffy kick his ass lol
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    watcher1006

    [5]Jul 22, 2009
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    I remember in S7 "Same Time, Same Place" that Dawn was the most suspicious about Willow coming back and whether she had really been rehabilitated or not. I would have liked to have seen something like a scene in the kitchen between Dawn and Willow after that episode where Dawn is still suspicious and sore at her about what happened between them in Rack's place in S6 "Two to Go". On the subject of Dawn, I'd like to have seen more than one confrontation between Dawn and Faith (in S7 "Dirty Girls"). Given that the story of the first four seasons was rewritten in Season 5, I would have liked to have known more about the story between Buffy's little sister and Faith - there's no way they could have not had a story.

    One thing that gets mentioned all the time is the crossover that never was - Buffy and Angel meeting after Buffy comes back in Season 6.

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    mendelier

    [6]Jul 22, 2009
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    Lary0988 wrote:
    I still want to know who brought Angel back, my theory was always that maybe it was the powers that be since they were such an important part of Angel, but they were never acknowledged on Buffy so who knows.

    I thought Buffy's love brought him back?

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    Zwingli4

    [7]Jul 22, 2009
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    When Giles and Anya went to see that hokey eye demon in season 7, and it said to them that the Slayer caused a flaw in the slayer line, and they never revealed how that came to be, or even what the creature said!
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    MLionhart2

    [8]Jul 22, 2009
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    Zwingli4 wrote:
    When Giles and Anya went to see that hokey eye demon in season 7, and it said to them that the Slayer caused a flaw in the slayer line, and they never revealed how that came to be, or even what the creature said!
    As I understand, when Buffy was resurrected by Willow, the spell was done improperly, and that caused the 'flaw'.
    Edited on 07/22/2009 2:57pm
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    alias571

    [9]Jul 22, 2009
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    Zwingli4 wrote:
    When Giles and Anya went to see that hokey eye demon in season 7, and it said to them that the Slayer caused a flaw in the slayer line, and they never revealed how that came to be, or even what the creature said!


    I'm not sure if that's what you're asking but the flaw was caused due to Buffy's death in Season 1. Her replacement was called but she resurrected, leaving the world with two active slayers. Therefore, there was a flaw in the slayer line. The same thing with the Potentials. I think that's it.
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    Lady_Lancaster

    [10]Jul 22, 2009
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    alias571 wrote:
    Zwingli4 wrote:
    When Giles and Anya went to see that hokey eye demon in season 7, and it said to them that the Slayer caused a flaw in the slayer line, and they never revealed how that came to be, or even what the creature said!


    I'm not sure if that's what you're asking but the flaw was caused due to Buffy's death in Season 1. Her replacement was called but she resurrected, leaving the world with two active slayers. Therefore, there was a flaw in the slayer line. The same thing with the Potentials. I think that's it.


    I think you're right, Alias. I see it the same way.
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    TV_Knight

    [11]Jul 22, 2009
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    I wouldn't want to have seen any of those... bleh, not necessary or interesting.

    P.S - I think Angel was brought back from the Hell dimension by The Powers that be A.k.a Wolfram and Hart. They probably made some sort of deal with the demons of that dimenson for Angel's release.
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    TwistedConverse

    [12]Jul 22, 2009
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    Lady_Lancaster wrote:
    alias571 wrote:
    Zwingli4 wrote:
    When Giles and Anya went to see that hokey eye demon in season 7, and it said to them that the Slayer caused a flaw in the slayer line, and they never revealed how that came to be, or even what the creature said!


    I'm not sure if that's what you're asking but the flaw was caused due to Buffy's death in Season 1. Her replacement was called but she resurrected, leaving the world with two active slayers. Therefore, there was a flaw in the slayer line. The same thing with the Potentials. I think that's it.


    I think you're right, Alias. I see it the same way.


    The way I understood it was that when Buffy died in S1, her essence, her soul hadn't fully left her body- she was only dead for a minute or two. She kept her slayer powers but the Slayer line transferred to Kendra and then Faith, making Faith the 'Active Slayer' at the time of Buffy's death in The Gift. Then when Willow resurrected her, the Slayer line was brought back into Buffy's body, making 2 'Active Slayers' which caused the disruption in the line.

    It's really confusing to explain .
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    SlayerSense

    [13]Jul 25, 2009
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    I know what you're saying, but I disagree. After her death in Season 1, Buffy lost that Slayer Essence. She kept her powers, but that's it. When she was resurrected, she still didnt have that essence, just her powers.

    Which reminds me on why The First decided to spring its plan when it did. Why not try to destroy the Slayer line earlier?

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    TwistedConverse

    [14]Jul 25, 2009
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    SlayerSense wrote:

    I know what you're saying, but I disagree. After her death in Season 1, Buffy lost that Slayer Essence. She kept her powers, but that's it. When she was resurrected, she still didnt have that essence, just her powers.

    Which reminds me on why The First decided to spring its plan when it did. Why not try to destroy the Slayer line earlier?


    See that's why the only explanation I can think of is the Slayer line returning to her in Bargaining. If it had have been something different, The First would have acted earlier. That's why the theory I posted above (which I didn't come up with btw, it was another poster here I think) is the only correct one imo.
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    michael_LB92

    [15]Jul 26, 2009
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    TwistedConverse wrote:
    SlayerSense wrote:

    I know what you're saying, but I disagree. After her death in Season 1, Buffy lost that Slayer Essence. She kept her powers, but that's it. When she was resurrected, she still didnt have that essence, just her powers.

    Which reminds me on why The First decided to spring its plan when it did. Why not try to destroy the Slayer line earlier?


    See that's why the only explanation I can think of is the Slayer line returning to her in Bargaining. If it had have been something different, The First would have acted earlier. That's why the theory I posted above (which I didn't come up with btw, it was another poster here I think) is the only correct one imo.


    I see both sides really. But the first has been around for like... ever. Waiting 6 years to really "attack" isn't the longest wait when it comes down to it, so SlayerSense could also be right.

    I'm sort of leaning towards Twisted's theory, but they're both valid points IMO.
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    funkyfresh5

    [16]Jul 26, 2009
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    Even though I liked Spike and I get it was just done to bring James Marsters into the cast, I always thought an annoying plot omission in s4 was that they didn't kill Spike when he was easy to kill. I know he has a chip and couldn't kill, but it didn't stop him wanting to and surely that was the most dangerous aspect of his personality. He had done enough to Buffy in the past to justify killing him.
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    Gemma54

    [17]Jul 26, 2009
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    There are a lot of reasons as to why this wasn't done in the show so I understand and I definitely respect the choice of the writers, but I really wish they could've added in the idea of when Buffy died in Season 5, Shouldn't someone have been called?

    Heres what I think were the 2 reasons it was kept out despite missing it and wanting it to happen.

    1. Faith was already around

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    2. She had already died before so no one was called?

    HOWEVER, 2 is fair enough, but with #1, It isn't really feasible because when Kendra died, Buffy was still around but Faith was called nevertheless.

    Yah, what do you guys thing?

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    alias571

    [18]Jul 26, 2009
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    Gemma54 wrote:
    There are a lot of reasons as to why this wasn't done in the show so I understand and I definitely respect the choice of the writers, but I really wish they could've added in the idea of when Buffy died in Season 5, Shouldn't someone have been called?

    Heres what I think were the 2 reasons it was kept out despite missing it and wanting it to happen.

    1. Faith was already around

    &

    2. She had already died before so no one was called?

    HOWEVER, 2 is fair enough, but with #1, It isn't really feasible because when Kendra died, Buffy was still around but Faith was called nevertheless.

    Yah, what do you guys thing?

    From the BtVS IMDb FAQ:
    Why wasn't another Slayer called after Buffy died in "The Gift?"
    Again, this one is from Joss: When Buffy died in season 1, her replacement was called (Kendra), so the Slayer line no longer moved through her. When Kendra died, Faith was called, and any future line would move through Faith. By the time Buffy died in season 5, whatever power activates new Slayers no longer recognized her. From that point, another Slayer would not have been called unless Faith died.

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    SlayerSense

    [19]Jul 26, 2009
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    I understand that Buffy isnt recognized by the Slayer line anymore. But what's with The First?

    Beljoxes eye or whatever it was called said that "Its not because the Slayer died, but because she lives."

    I also dont understand how The First would eliminate the Slayer line forever anyway. If he killed all the Potentials, more would be born.

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    alias571

    [20]Jul 26, 2009
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    SlayerSense wrote:
    I also dont understand how The First would eliminate the Slayer line forever anyway. If he killed all the Potentials, more would be born.


    Also from the FAQ: We can tell from "Fray" that the Slayer line will eventually drop back down to one - this would suggest that the only Slayer with the power to call a replacement is still Faith, so within a few decades all the new Slayers will have died and the line will be back to one Slayer, which is how it was meant to be.
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