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Syfy (ended 2010)

Unfortunately it has just been cancelled :(

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    123home123

    [21]Nov 2, 2010
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    Sorry to hear the news. I have to admit that I wasn't following this show too closely even though I was a big fan of "Battlestar Galactica". (I'm the editor of the TV.com guide for BSG.) I haven't been watching much scripted TV at all since BSG ended. BSG actually made me follow a TV show again for the first time in years. But after SyFy canceled BSG, I drifted away from scripted TV again.

    "Caprica" sounded interesting to me, but not quite as compelling as BSG. I figured that I'd watch the episodes later on through the DVDs. I saw most of the Season 1.0 episodes in the Caprica marathon on Syfy before the 1.5 episodes began. I found them entertaining and thought-provoking, although I do have to agree with some that the religion angle may have gotten too much emphasis in the story. And the focus on the teenage characters kind of deadened some of my enthusiasm. I know it was probably a way of expanding the audience, but pre-teen and teenage girls tend not to be big sci-fi fans in general (with some exceptions).

    I caught one or two of the recent episodes in October but I still wasn't following the show on a weekly basis. I guess the "soap opera" format wasn't enough to draw me in to watch the episodes "live" on the first day of broadcast.

    I'll probably buy the DVD sets later on.

    I think another difficulty for the show was the linear nature of the BSG series. It felt like I watched a multi-episode epic, not a weekly TV show or a sci-fi franchise (a la Star Trek or Star Wars). Once BSG ended, it felt like it really ended. It wasn't a typical sci-fi action/adventure story where you could tack on sequels and spin-offs the way you can with other sci-fi franchises. It just wouldn't feel "authentic" to me.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what Moore and Eick do with the BSG series, but again, they may be facing the difficulty of starting up a new spin-off/prequel for a BSG "franchise" that doesn't feel like a franchise. The BSG story wrapped up neatly with a linear story arc over the four seasons. There wasn't a big stable world and organization like Star Trek/Star Fleet. In my opinion, this made BSG more hard-hitting and emotionally powerful. But it also limits what the producers can do with the franchise.

    I'm rooting for them, but I can't promise that I'll be watching the episodes of the next BSG series on the same day as broadcast either. Mostly because I haven't been watching much scripted TV and partly because I've been spending a lot of time on triathlon training (really).
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    mrgab

    [22]Nov 3, 2010
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    Darn, I really enjoyed the first batch of episodes. The return episodes lacked a bit but had a feeling were building to better ones.
    I didnt even realize it had been cancelled til I tried watching my recording of this weeks show to only find an episode of Trek TNG.
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    Helostwin

    [23]Nov 3, 2010
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    THat's why SySy has no viewers. They cancel good programs like Caprica and fill their schedule with garbage like Star Trek-drek that nobody watches and then have to sell airtime to semi-pro wrestling to pay their bills.
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    Jacks_Son

    [24]Nov 3, 2010
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    Helostwin wrote:
    THat's why SySy has no viewers. They cancel good programs like Caprica and fill their schedule with garbage like Star Trek-drek that nobody watches and then have to sell airtime to semi-pro wrestling to pay their bills.
    Hmm. I watch Stargate Universe, Sanctuary, Being Human, Warehouse 13, Eureka, and Haven, so I guess I'm the only viewer left.

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    dck133

    [25]Nov 3, 2010
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    Jacks_Son wrote:

    Helostwin wrote:
    THat's why SySy has no viewers. They cancel good programs like Caprica and fill their schedule with garbage like Star Trek-drek that nobody watches and then have to sell airtime to semi-pro wrestling to pay their bills.
    Hmm. I watch Stargate Universe, Sanctuary, Being Human, Warehouse 13, Eureka, and Haven, so I guess I'm the only viewer left.



    I watch all those shows too so I guess there are two viewers left.

    Are there only going to be 18 episodes of Caprica total? I thought there were supposed to be 20.
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    LordNova32

    [26]Nov 3, 2010
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    123home123 wrote:
    . . . the religion angle may have gotten too much emphasis in the story. And the focus on the teenage characters kind of deadened some of my enthusiasm. I know it was probably a way of expanding the audience, but pre-teen and teenage girls tend not to be big sci-fi fans in general (with some exceptions).



    Yeah syfy has been doing that recently. Turning to younger viewers to increase their viewer base. It just feels like they're turning away from most of the viewers that enjoyed watching shows like BSG. It is a little disappointing that they cancel shows because their new viewer base doesn't have the attention span to get into the show. (ofcourse this doesn't mean all teens have short attention spans but . . . Hey look shinny! . . . well any way like i was saying)



    Personally i'm hoping they come up with a real original series. By that i mean something that hasn't been done before. Not a reboot or a spin-off or even a sequel/prequel. I've been waiting for something that will just take the scifi community by surprise.



    But alas that may be too much to ask for . . .

    Edited on 11/03/2010 9:10pm
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    Mistral5

    [27]Nov 4, 2010
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    Helostwin wrote:
    They cancel good programs like Caprica and fill their schedule with garbage like Star Trek-drek


    You do realize, that a rerun of Star-Trek runs fine with a low number of viewers? The Rerun cost much, much less then a new show and it looks like not that many people wanted to watch caprica.



    Cant blame them. The second half after the break was much better, but i guess it was already too late.

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    Helostwin

    [28]Nov 4, 2010
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    Wow looks like I attracted quite a response from Trekkies (whom I detest) and the teen-haters I've been battling with since Caprica debuted.Well to each their own. I can't stand futuristic, technology driven shows, that's why I liked BSG and Caprica so much. I espicially despise Star Trek-drek, which represents the socialist utopia the left was envisioning when the original series premiered. I also have a problem withall the teen-haters on here. I'll tell my fellow undergrads that we all have "short attention spans." They should get a real laugh out of that; espicially the hard-science majors.
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    Jacks_Son

    [29]Nov 4, 2010
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    Helostwin wrote:
    Wow looks like I attracted quite a response from Trekkies (whom I detest) and the teen-haters I've been battling with since Caprica debuted.Well to each their own. I can't stand futuristic, technology driven shows, that's why I liked BSG and Caprica so much. I espicially despise Star Trek-drek, which represents the socialist utopia the left was envisioning when the original series premiered. I also have a problem withall the teen-haters on here. I'll tell my fellow undergrads that we all have "short attention spans." They should get a real laugh out of that; espicially the hard-science majors.


    That's funny, I don't see any Trekkies responding to you. Also, I don't see any teen-haters either. Where are these people you speak of?

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    gatekeeper50

    [30]Nov 4, 2010
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    After the results came in for the general election on Nov 2, 2010, it became quite obvious that there aren't enough people with the mental capacity, intellectual curiosity, or desire to look ahead to compose a significant audience necessary to sustain a series as well crafted as CAPRICA. Quality science fiction programming will probableonly be found on the internet with the cancellation of this last good scifi show. Flash Forward, Sarah Connor Chronicles, Invasion, Threshold, New Amsterdam, and Defying Gravity were all shows that were cancelled because they required a miniscule of intellectual rigor and paying enough attention to keep track of the plot. Unfortunately, the demise of these programs is merely indicative of where this nation is going as a whole considering the latest report that ranks US teens 29th in science worldwide and the new republican House of Representatives threatening to begin hearings on what they call the myth of global climate change. At least there are still good independent movie makers willing to produce thought provoking science fiction (give PI or PRIMER a view) and some even get picked up by the big companies - I look forward to the DVD release of INCEPTION, but it may only be on the internet where a good science fiction series finds a strong enough audience to continue beyond the first year.

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    Helostwin

    [31]Nov 5, 2010
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    GATEKEEPER50-- for the teen haters I suggest you read the "Shooting Caesar" thread. For the Trekkies & other futuristic technology obscessed I suggest you read the "It's just horrible bad" thread here and the threads on the BSG forum dealing with that shows series finale.
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    Helostwin

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    OOPS I meant Jacks___son ^^^^^ intead.
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    saxyroro

    [33]Nov 5, 2010
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    Done with Syfy. I don't care. I will not support them anymore. I'm glad I got rid of my cable.They can take their new show and frak themselves.
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    OzgurKaplan

    [34]Nov 6, 2010
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    I am very disappointed. Canceling Caprica will be a big mistake like Fox did to FireFly back in 02. Caprica was slow but keeps getting interesting and actually last episode was pretty great in my opinion.


    Caprica is the kind of show Syfy should air, unlike medicore, everything solved simply Warehouse 13 . Most of the viewers watch warehouse because there is nothing on in summer.

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    tomtom1310

    [35]Nov 6, 2010
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    Well, after the starting episodes of the show I thought by myself: "Wow, that's very courageous of Syfy, doing a tv show with that much deepness and ambiguity". Dealing with the ambivalent effects of competitive religious systems and addressing the social and moral questions of modern digital societies and mixing it with the special problems of teenagers feeling misunderstood, overlooked and rejected by the shallow adult world, it could be a bit too much for a tv show broadcasted on an american SiFi channel only.


    Maybe it was just not plain and simple enough... Caprica wasn't black and white, it was kind of coloured. There was darkness in the good guys and some surprising sparks of light in the bad ones. So you could not easily take sides.


    Hmm, thinking it over, why didn't syfy just sell the show to - let's say - the BBC? I'm really sure that it would have done well in europe, and the folks in the US loving this wonderful show would have got the chance to watch the story unfold anyway.



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    wounds

    [36]Nov 7, 2010
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    I think the problem is not the network but the viewers.

    I think a lot of people thought "Uh, a prequal for BSG. I'll watch that!" because they think it's just like BSG... which this isn't. It's far, far away from it. It reminds me more of "Dynasty" and "Dallas".

    I guess the world is not ready for a sci-fi drama TV show.
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    Helostwin

    [37]Nov 7, 2010
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    tomtom1310 wrote:

    mixing it with the special problems of teenagers feeling misunderstood, overlooked and rejected by the shallow adult world, it could be a bit too much for a tv show broadcasted on an american SiFi channel only.



    First, I agree with you about the teenager part. Most of the posters on here hated having any adolescents on the program. Second, it was also shown in Canada and I believe (from some posters mentioning it) that it was shown in Britain also so it wasn't just on American cable TV.

    Third, I think you underestimate the huge percentage of sci-fi fans who only want "progressive" futeristic settings, space battles, aliens and mindboggling technology. These persons trashed BSG and Caprica and espicially the series ending of BSG for that reason. They couldn't stand that they had telephones with cords instead of communicators, used cannon shells & machine gun bullets instead of phasers & photon torpedos, dressed like 20th century humans instead of running around in tin foil suits or outlandish costumes and that there were no purple blobs or pointy eared aliens. If your program don't adhere to their idea of "sci-fi" they do their best to get it cancelled. The intolerance to other concepts is almost Stalinist.
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    dudius399

    [38]Nov 7, 2010
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    Helostwin wrote:
    I espicially despise Star Trek-drek, which represents the socialist utopia the left was envisioning when the original series premiered.



    Wow ...


    Only an American could cite a "Socialist Utopia" as being a bad thing ...

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    Helostwin

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    dudius399 wrote:


    Helostwin wrote:
    I espicially despise Star Trek-drek, which represents the socialist utopia the left was envisioning when the original series premiered.



    Wow ...


    Only an American could cite a "Socialist Utopia" as being a bad thing ...


    To Americans socialist ANYTHING is a bad thing. Even the Europeans are abandoning socialism because it doesn't work and never has. To further my point that Star Trek is the global socialist society that the radical left dreamed of in the 1960s: Just look at the first episode of Next Generation. Look at all the anti-capitalist messages (the way the Ferengi are portrayed, the fact they don't have money) etc. They portray socialism as not being vile, which to any American viewer is nonsense. Of course this is getting off the topic of Caprica ( which definitely IS a capitalist society I'm happy too say).


    I just had to edit, not to change anything I wrote but because 3 words were running into each other so I had to make it readable lol.

    Edited on 11/07/2010 11:54pm
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    DanielRichards0

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    Helostwin wrote:

    dudius399 wrote:


    Helostwin wrote:
    I espicially despise Star Trek-drek, which represents the socialist utopia the left was envisioning when the original series premiered.



    Wow ...


    Only an American could cite a "Socialist Utopia" as being a bad thing ...


    To Americans socialist ANYTHING is a bad thing. Even the Europeans are abandoning socialism because it doesn't work and never has. To further my point that Star Trek is the global socialist society that the radical left dreamed of in the 1960s: Just look at the first episode of Next Generation. Look at all the anti-capitalist messages (the way the Ferengi are portrayed, the fact they don't have money) etc. They portray socialism as not being vile, which to any American viewer is nonsense. Of course this is getting off the topic of Caprica ( which definitely IS a capitalist society I'm happy too say).


    I just had to edit, not to change anything I wrote but because 3 words were running into each other so I had to make it readable lol.



    For starters I'm REPUBLICAN and A "TREKKIE", but if you had any common sense you would see the LOGIC is ditching currency in the future as what are dollar bills going to mean to some alien? the Ferengi work as "money grubbers" because their currency is a "precious metal" and anyone with any kind of brain would see just the house of cards that are "economy" is and accept it probably won't last another 300 hundred year to begin with. The only real complaint with Trek is that they can be to "peaceful" when there are times when its just easier to fight it out which they seam to learn as the series progresses and they meet evermore hostile aliens.
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