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Destiny and the Lovers

  • Avatar of harpier


    [1]Nov 2, 2007
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    While the series finale certainly provided an ironic and mostly satisfying ending, I must confess a degree of surprise and mild confusion about the direction the writers turned the show. Sophie's biological relationship to Brother Justin was certainly not unexpected nor was her timely magnetic attraction to his presence, but the beginning of the second season seemed to suggest an alternative possibility for events. More than anything else in the show, this baffled and misled me.

    In a show in which Destiny--capital "D"--runs the show and perpetuates the cycle of Good and Evil even from Samson's monologue in the opening moments of Season 1, Season 2 flirted with the possibility of real resolution and reconciliation brought about by its characters. This suggestion (hinted at in Sophie's drawing of "The Lovers" card in reading Ben's future) culminates in the emotionally visceral love scene between Sophie and Ben in a car, which supernaturally brings renewing rain to the parched Dustbowl landscape, but it is quickly undone by the booming and threateningly seductive voice of Brother Justin's broadcast. While an ending that emphasized Destiny didn't entirely sideswipe me, I was a little taken aback by the show's deliberate and brutal undermining of the theme and power of The Lovers. I suppose it's very Shakespearean in its tragedy: although the ending is necessarily tragic for its heroes, they tantalizingly hover on the edge of success. Star-crossed lovers even from their birth.

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  • Avatar of tigerbot_hesh


    [2]Dec 7, 2007
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    The problems you're having lie not with the writers. The problem is that it wasn't the series finale. In fact, the series was always planned to take place over the course of six seasons, with each two seasons being a "book" in the "bible" of Carnivale. But alas, HBO made one of their notoriously bad decisions and canceled the show prematurely (not unlike Deadwood and Rome, though Rome's cancellation is more understandable).
    Edited on 12/07/2007 6:18pm
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  • Avatar of Clemontine


    [3]May 24, 2010
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    So I am really confused about this too. Would Sofie have come around if the show continued? But how come she could heal Justin? Is she the next avatar of dakrness? That doesnt seem like something you could come back from. And why did it happen so suddenly. It seemed like she was possessed.
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    [4]Aug 16, 2010
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    Co-executive producer William Schmidt says Sophie's action of bringing her father back to life indicates "that she was truly evil" although "she is the Omega so there's good in her too."

    Take a look at this link to Wikipedia, which details the storylines for Season 3 and beyond:àle#Season_2_finale_and_character_fates


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