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Official Episode Discussion: Rise 4x01 (Sep 19)

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    TesserT

    [1]Sep 17, 2011
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    Let's discuss Monday's season premiere Rise here. Enjoy!

    Check out the promo over at ABC.com. Everything is on the line! Ths is my fault! She's my girlfriend!
    Edited on 09/20/2011 9:06am
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    GrubeRSU

    [2]Sep 19, 2011
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    It's actually season 4 and it's not Castle's fault and the doctor is no longer Beckett's Boyfriend.



    Season 4 starts with Beckett in surgery and castle is in the waiting room awaiting the result of the surgery. Let's just hope that Beckett comes out of surgery with flying colours and continue working with Castle to finally put her mother's case to rest. In my opinion, I think the shooter is a friend or enemy of Beckett's father.


    If you remember, Kate's dad is Ex Army and he may have made some enemy's while in the Army and has now figured out who did actually kill his wife and the murderer has possibly made a deal with him to keep quiet, but he has gone back on his word and told his daughter the info he knows about his wife's death. I think in season 4, I believe that Castle and Beckett will eventually get together and possibly get engaged.

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    NiallB31

    [3]Sep 19, 2011
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    Not long now...

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    SheWhoTangles

    [4]Sep 19, 2011
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    Patiently waiting the final hours to see the conclusion to last season's finale... Have been avoiding the spoilers as much as possible, only have a few headlines here and there to mess with my head and hopes. Can't wait to see!

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    phnxgrl

    [5]Sep 19, 2011
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    Yes it have been a long wait for Those of us who are afflicted with OCD Obsessive Castle Disorder!
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    JJYossarian

    [6]Sep 19, 2011
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    I wouldn't say I have OCD, but I am certainly looking forward to the premiere, and hopefully it will live up to the hype.
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    McDuplessis

    [7]Sep 19, 2011
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    Did you two without faces make if over from the ABC message "BOARDS"??...
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    phnxgrl

    [8]Sep 19, 2011
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    That is correct ABC did something so horrible!
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    JJYossarian

    [9]Sep 19, 2011
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    Yes indeed. It seems that ABC no longer want fans discussing the show on their website, so have removed the message boards and replaced them with some sort of twitter stream.
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    McDuplessis

    [10]Sep 19, 2011
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    Boards are back guys!!!
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    Nat6386

    [11]Sep 20, 2011
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    WHO CARES STAY HERE !!! hahahahah OMG I just watched the episode!!! SO INTENSE **STOP READING IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT YET**

    BUT OMG OMG OMG OMG I dont know what else to say!!! I knew KB was lying I knew she would have remembered thats why she needed space away from Castle to figure what she felt, thats why she came up with that whole Wall thing, cause she loves him back but wants to solve her mums murder before she gets into anything too serious!! I love Castle but he also frustrated me this ep, I know he wants to protect her, but what will happen once kate realises he kept such evidence and news to himself. I mean I love that he is still looking on his own, but he should have told her in the spirit of honesty and kate is going to go mental when she finds out...

    Do you think she will ever get over being shot? I mean we saw a little bit of her getting better but that session at the end with the therapist, I dont think she will ever get over it, not till she figures out what happened to her mum which incidentally is getting so juicy im dying to know!!!!

    I disagree with the poster ^ who said it was her dad who organised it, but i think her dad knows more than he is letting on.... i still think it has to do with the mayor....

    but on a happier not, DR MOTORCYCLE BOY IS GONE WOOOOOOOO how dare he blame Castle, he didnt even know half of what was happening! glad to see him go!
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    blackmage8472

    [12]Sep 20, 2011
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    [QUOTE="Nat6386"]I love Castle but he also frustrated me this ep, I know he wants to protect her, but what will happen once kate realises he kept such evidence and news to himself. I mean I love that he is still looking on his own, but he should have told her in the spirit of honesty and kate is going to go mental when she finds out... Do you think she will ever get over being shot? I mean we saw a little bit of her getting better but that session at the end with the therapist, I dont think she will ever get over it, not till she figures out what happened to her mum[/ QUOTE]


    This looks to be an interesting season. They're definitely starting it out on a much darker tone. The fact is while I do believe Beckett can get over being shot I seriously doubt she could get over Castle not telling her everything. That plan is eventually going to blow up in Castle's face, especially if he does eventually have to steer her away from the investigation. The truth is even before getting shot, the case of her mother's murder was to Beckett what a bottle of scotch is to a hardcore alcoholic. After getting shot... no way that obsession doesn't go deeper and if the person she's closest to withholds evidence from her...

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    abmas17

    [13]Sep 20, 2011
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    A great start to another exciting new season of Castle! I wonder if Beckett's mother's murder will be a much more recurring theme this season than in the past when it only came up a couple of times each season. Kind of hard to ignore it now that it's become the focus of the show. Regardless, I'm looking forward to next Monday already!Smile

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    saphire382

    [14]Sep 20, 2011
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    Great season opener. Nice to know that Kate was lying


    Castle is going to be in hot water with Kate when she finds out he is keeping things from her


    I love the new boss, she might be a b**ch but she pulls it off well

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    gerryold

    [15]Sep 20, 2011
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    Maybe Beckett will be mad about Castle, but figure out when Castle will learn that she remembered every detail about the shooting and transportation to the hospital

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    gerryold

    [16]Sep 20, 2011
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    I agree with you about this first episode of season 4. My biggest deception was Beckett, meanly the way she treated Castle, first at the hospital when she mentionned she had a black out after the shooting, and after when she told him that she don't whant to see him for a few days and took so long to get in touch with him. When she came back to work, she was completely ignorant about Castle job for those 3 months, she didn' even care abouthim.The fact that she didn't call him back, mean thatIF Esposito and Ryan do not tell her every thing Castle did during that period, probably she would have ingnore him totaly for longer time.


    Is it the way to treat the person who helped you the most in your job, the one which is always therefor you no matter what , the one who make you smile and laugh when you need so, the one who almost save your life ? After all those months, she still hidding herself behind her mother's dead, the WALL will be there as long as she will not have find the killer. What will happen if she never do so?When she was with her PSY just before the end, sheclearly said that she remembered every thing about the shooting and that she lied to every one when she said that she was black out.


    I understand her at some point to protect herself, but she at least should have let Castle know that she was not completely black out after the shooting, and that she hear thing. For me, she was selfish a lot and realy realy cheap about Castle, where is the HONEST Beckett of the previous years, is she dead with the shooting? Maybe we will see her back at the end of season 4 or so............


    For me, she is very very lucky that CASTLE LOVE her so much and that he will do anything for her, but I don't thinkshe might do the same for him, from what we saw yesterday.That's my opinion only and I will respect other's one for sure. Ultimately it is just a show.......


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    gerryold

    [17]Sep 20, 2011
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    gerryold wrote:


    Abmast 17, I agree with you about this first episode of season 4. My biggest deception was Beckett, meanly the way she treated Castle, first at the hospital when she mentionned she had a black out after the shooting, and after when she told him that she don't whant to see him for a few days and took so long to get in touch with him. When she came back to work, she was completely ignorant about Castle job for those 3 months, she didn' even care abouthim.The fact that she didn't call him back, mean thatIF Esposito and Ryan do not tell her every thing Castle did during that period, probably she would have ingnore him totaly for longer time.


    Is it the way to treat the person who helped you the most in your job, the one which is always therefor you no matter what , the one who make you smile and laugh when you need so, the one who almost save your life ? After all those months, she still hidding herself behind her mother's dead, the WALL will be there as long as she will not have find the killer. What will happen if she never do so?When she was with her PSY just before the end, sheclearly said that she remembered every thing about the shooting and that she lied to every one when she said that she was black out.


    I understand her at some point to protect herself, but she at least should have let Castle know that she was not completely black out after the shooting, and that she hear thing. For me, she was selfish a lot and realy realy cheap about Castle, where is the HONEST Beckett of the previous years, is she dead with the shooting? Maybe we will see her back at the end of season 4 or so............


    For me, she is very very lucky that CASTLE LOVE her so much and that he will do anything for her, but I don't thinkshe might do the same for him, from what we saw yesterday.That's my opinion only and I will respect other's one for sure. Ultimately it is just a show.......



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    TylerA46

    [18]Sep 20, 2011
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    So, the bad guy is a congressman.


    They should just investigate from the opposite direction. Who worked in NY in law enforcement, started a political career shortly after getting paid and got really powerful!?

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    NiallB31

    [19]Sep 20, 2011
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    Just in case anyone is interested the rtings are in.


    Season 4 premiere episode was watched by 13.60 million viewers and scored a 3.3 in the 18-49 age group. It came second in its timeslot being beat by Hawaii 5-o which got 12.00 million viewers and got a 3.4 in the 18-49 age group.#


    Castle was up 22% verse last season premiere which got 11.17 million viewers and a 2.8.


    Castle is going up in the ratings and I hope the series can keep above a 3.0.

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    haldrey

    [20]Sep 20, 2011
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    Welcome back Castle and with a solid premier. A new police chief, a woman and as in almost all police shows when the chief is a woman she is a bitch. Yes, the boards are back in ABC and TV.Com is still good but if they do not fix all that is not working I now of a lot of persons, including myself, that are looking for greener pastures.
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