Season 7 Episode 11

Ordinary Witches

Aired Sunday 8:00 PM Jan 16, 2005 on The WB
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Episode Summary

When Piper switches powers with Phoebe, to allow her to see the vision of the utopian world, Zankou interferes, and causes their powers to be transferred to innocent bystanders, who run amok. Meanwhile, Brody's murderous desires prompt Paige to take him on a journey back to his childhood to learn the truth about his parents' death.moreless

Who was the Episode MVP ?

  • Stupidty of Leo and the Halliwell

    Once Kyle learned that the Avatars did not kill his parents, he did not remain blind about them. He still knew that they were a threat.


    Leo and the Halliwells proved to be the threat, because they STUPIDLY bought into the Avatars little song and dance about no conflict in the future. They were willing to rob humanity of its free will in order to adhere to their childish moral compass. They have never learned to outgrow their Sunday school morality on this show. Which is why they remained emotionally stunted.

  • Only 2 more with Kyle.

    And then Paige just doesn't care about the fact Brody did just 'try' he would've succeeded, the fact he didn't even talk to him.. he just outright acts like Leo is the murderer. And I'm sorry "I would've warned you if I knew" um you should've said something anyway. And so Paige's argument is "Leo wasn't there what does he know" but then he's justified because Leo is an avatar.. such a stupid argument!

    Sees the truth, still goes on an anti-avatar rampage. I'm sorry from what we see, Kyle was NEVER even there. He came back when they were already dead... nobody told him about avatars or the potion so yeah I don't get how he finds out about them and really he just decided to jump to a conclusion that turned into a massive, unjustified hatred. Worst type of character.moreless
  • I still believe being ordanary is very over rated..

    Finally, The long awaited Ordnary Witches, I have to say that as much as I loved this eppisode, I was left with wishing there had been more to it.

    I was very happy tho that the story played out as well as it did and did not get rushed like I feel it does sometimes.

    As always the sisters are looking as beautiful as ever. I felt very happy with the much material that ms. Milano had on.

    How nice was it to watch Piper and Leo making breakfast together again.? How very 'ordnary.'

    Like always Piper seems to be the sister that is needing to question things. How perfect of a world do the Avatars plan on making it.? I keep thinking the same things also. How perfect is perfect? And would there really be burnt toast in a perfect world.?

    Help me.. How many times is this that they have gone back in time.? three? Four? A hundred? Even tho it was a good idea to have Body go back and see what really happen to his parents. I myself am still wondering where Brody got all the information on the Avatars are and what brought him to the conclustion that they were the ones that killed his parents.

    What can I say about this new demon Zanku? He seems as typical as all the others demons, evil, misterious, powerful, a little more powerful then the source. Him somewhat telling on Leo to the other elders was very A typical. Feeling that he will not be around that long I do not want to get that attached.

    Watching the inoccents get the sisters powers was..? How can I say? A little boring.. Sort of part of the story that could have been left out. But that is just me.

    Out of all the characters on the show the elders are starting to be on my not liked anymore list. Leo had it right when he said "The fate of the world is no longer in your hands." For elders that have claimed to be peaceful people (angels or what not) That seems to be going out the door when they tryed to kill Leo. I remember one of the elders saying once to Piper that they may have to make Leo be reborn, to start to cycle of life over again if things didnt get better with him. I had assumed that they would have done it in a nicer way then trying to electocute him to death.

    The eppisode did end on a good note with the sisters once again being on the same side. I like that.

    My Bits and Pieces:

    Peter Woodward again played a demon, the main one that killed Agent Brodys parents. This makes I believe three, Charmed and Dangerours, (the source) Someone to witch over me and Ordinar Witches (Aku). I find him very a very interesting actor, Maybe it is his accent.

    How powerful are the Avatars that they can not do what they need to with out the Charmed ones.?

    Agent Brody spoke to little Brody about imaginary friend or friends always looking out for him growing up. Could that have been an elder or an Avatar?

    Blessed Be

  • Ordinary Witches

    Ordinary Witches was a perfect and very entertaining episode of Charmed. I really enjoyed watching because the story was intriguing as Zankou plotted to destroy the sisters, Leo faced the Elders, and Kyle and Paige learn the truth about his parent's death. There was a lot of action, drama, and some humor along with serious moments. It seems some sort of transition is coming, though exactly how things will play out is yet to be revealed. I liked the ending which left me wondering what Kyle's intentions are and what will Zankou and the Elders do now? I look forward to watching the next episode to see what happens!!!!!!!!!moreless
  • Extraordinary Plotholes

    Ordinary Witches-When Piper switches powers with Phoebe, to allow her to see the vision of the utopian world, Zankou interferes, and causes their powers to be transferred to innocent bystanders, who run amok. Meanwhile, Brody's murderous desires prompt Paige to take him on a journey back to his childhood to learn the truth about his parents' death.

    I swear as Charmed went on, it's like all previous establishedmythologythat the writers created early on in the series became non-existent! How else do you explain Piper and Phoebe getting frozen more than once when their next door neighbor gets Piper's powers? Good. Witches. DON'T. FREEZE! Powers or not, they are naturally born witches, thus immune to that power! When did we learn that? Season 2's "How To Make A Quilt Out of Americans"! If fans can remember that how come the writers can't! I hope Brad Kern now is struggling to even get a fan fic posted online yet alone show run (and destroy) another series!! Anyway, the power switching plot is pretty much filler and I really don't care if some random guy with Phoebe's powers saw her vision of the Utopia. Honestly, in reality, what guy would care about some chick and her daughter having a chat about a world with no demons? O_0 Anyway, on the plus side, Zankou rocks! Oded Fehr is just what this series needed, a strong actor in a solid villain role and I love how he manipulates those around him, even executes his plans better than most of the recent demons of late. His interaction with the Elders was a great moment, especially using their fear of the Avatars against them, knowing that both good and evil pretty much have everything to lose if the Avatars are successful. It leads to an another great moment where the Elders try to kill Leo, only to fail. Itdefinitelyshows just how powerful the Avatars are and seeing them orb away hopeless shows they are no match for them.

    Paige and Kyle are once again off on their own adventure and while you knew his little trip to the past would end with the Avatars not being his parents' killer, it does give Kyle a chance to grow and learn from his past just like Paige did in "A Paige From The Past". The scene where his parents are murdered by demons is brutal, which some nice, sharp direction and SFX. While it's good to know Kyle's "I must kill the Avatars/They kill my parents!"whiningphase is over. You know he still doesn't trust them considering he stole another potion from the past. Either way, with Paige now on her sisters' side, Utopia is only an episode away! All and All, a decent episode despite the usual plotholes from the writers and filler stuff with the neighbors with powers.moreless
James Wellington

James Wellington

Craps Dealer

Guest Star

Lorin McCraley

Lorin McCraley


Guest Star

Brian D. Johnson

Brian D. Johnson

Customs Agent

Guest Star

Elizabeth Dennehy

Elizabeth Dennehy


Recurring Role

Oded Fehr

Oded Fehr


Recurring Role

Kerr Smith

Kerr Smith

Agent Kyle Brody

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (26)

    • TRIVIA: Brody's parents are killed by three demons. The demon in the center is a celerity demon named Aku. Aku was the master from the episode Someone to Witch Over Me who was killed by his apprentice, Sarpedon, after he stole Paige's guardian.

    • Little Kyle has blue eyes but the adult one has brown.

    • After Zankou's failed attack on Piper and Phoebe Leo orbs back in and walks Piper to the stairs, in front of a mirror. Just as he's saying, "I did. We need to talk", one of the production crew's reflection is visible.

    • When Zankou and The Elders are talking at the Golden Gate Bridge, at one point Zankou moves and part of his head is cut for a brief moment. This indicates that the shots with The Elders and the shots of Zankou were filmed separately and were later merged together to be one scene.

    • Denise says that she wants to get back at her ex husband who ran off with "his secretary". In fact, the actress who plays Denise played the secretary on Desperate Housewives, who her boss "Karl" falls in love with leaving his wife "Susan" heart-broken and their marriage destroyed.

    • When Paige is arguing with Kyle in his apartment, in the first shot, she clearly looks at the camera.

    • If Leo says that he's not an Elder anymore, then why can he still orb like Elders, instead of the shimmering in the Avatar style?

    • How exactly did Zankou arrange a meeting with the Elders? In what way was he able to contact them? And what made them respond to a call from a demon?

    • Kyle didn't see an Avatar before, so how is it that he was sure the people he saw killed his parents are demons, and not possibly Avatars?

    • In the episodes "Astral Monkey" and "Primrose Empath" it was shown that any being that possesses a power they did not develop on their own slowly goes insane. This did not happen with the two mortals who inherited Piper and Phoebe's powers.

    • TRIVIA: In this episode it's stated that Kyle was born in 1976.

    • TRIVIA: Foreshadowing - when Piper and Phoebe are searching for a spell to switch powers they lift up a couple pages and on one there is the picture of one of the demons that killed Kyle's parents.

    • When Paige and Kyle go through the portal, Kyle remains his age, plus a five year old Kyle. However, when Paige went back into the past, she became her seventeen-year-old self, so Brody should have become his five year old self, as well.

    • TRIVIA: Piper & Phoebe use the same spell to switch powers that Piper used in the season 1 episode "Love Hurts" to switch hers & Leo's powers.

    • How did two commonplace people master the powers so quickly and easily? It took the girls years. Phoebe still can't call premonitions on command all the time (and it took her several years to do it at all) only when she's meant to. Was Ronnie really meant to see the winning Craps roll?

    • Why were their powers in the air for so long? They shouldn't have floated for such a long time before they changed bodies.

    • The spell they use to switch powers has a line missing from it. They left out "let our powers cross the line" in the spell.

    • In the previous episode "Witchness Protection", Phoebe showed the Elder in Magic School that the Avatars were good by showing him the vision, so wouldn't they be happy about Leo being an Avatar?

    • How dumb are those demons? Can't they wait till everyone is sleeping before breaking in? Or at least wait till no one is holding the case?

    • How did Piper and Phoebe get to Lake Tahoe so fast without anybody to orb them? Paige was in the past, and Leo had just orbed to see the Elders.

    • When exactly did Paige learn Leo was an Avater? It must've occurred off-screen between episodes but it seems kind of foolish considering she was bound to tell Kyle.

    • Why didn't having the witches' powers drive the mortals mad like it did to Piper's doctor in season two? Leo told the sisters that it took generations for them to be able to handle their powers. Why didn't their powers destroy the mortals?

    • During the scene when Phoebe tells Ronnie that she is a witch, she speaks so loud that it's a wonder that nobody on the entire block overheard her.

    • Why exactly would Ronnie stop using magic for personal gain just because of Phoebe's vision? He doesn't know her, so why should he care about her daughter? The thing about demons not existing, he'd never seen a demon at that point, so why would he care if they existed or not?

    • In the beginning of the episode, Piper and Leo are using the same toaster that Piper blew up in the episode "Once In A Blue Moon".

    • When Phoebe and Ronnie enter, Denise freezes both of them. Either it shouldn't work on Phoebe, because she's a good witch or Ronnie, because he's got Phoebe's powers. Regardless, they shouldn't both be frozen.

  • QUOTES (29)

    • Leo: So, what's the problem?
      Piper: Burning toast.
      Leo: What?
      Piper: The toast, it's burning. (Leo goes over to the smoking toaster) Now, see, there's a question. Your Avatar friends are promising this big, bright future. Um, will there be burning toast?
      Leo: Piper, be serious.

    • Zankou: Where is the third one?
      Phoebe: Errmm,... You know what? We're not really sure, so why don't you just come back later, okay?

    • Piper: Paige!
      Paige: What? What's going on?
      Piper: Oh you know, nothing... your boyfriend tried to kill my husband...

    • Zankou: His name is Leo. Ring any Elder bells?

    • Piper blows up a lamp.
      Phoebe: Hey! Do you mind?
      Piper: Sorry, just checking.
      Phoebe: Oh, it's okay. I never liked that lamp really anyway.

    • Paige (about Kyle): He's pretty devastated, you know? But I think eventually he'll be okay. I mean, you have to be. It's Utopia, right?

    • Avatar Alpha: Someone must have told Agent Brody that Leo is one of us now.
      Leo (to Piper): Paige.
      Piper: Alright. What do you want from me? I'll kill her later.

    • Phoebe: Zankou. How do they come up with these names?
      Piper: After all these years, you're gonna ask now?

    • Ronnie: What do you say we go an get rich?
      Denise: Okay, but only if we can blow up my ex-husband afterwards.
      Ronnie: Sure.

    • Ronnie: What if, say, you wanted to use your powers for something besides fighting demons? Like, uh, winning the lottery?
      Phoebe: No, my premonitions are much bigger than that.
      Ronnie: What's bigger than winning the lottery?

    • Zankou: Would you like me to elaborate?
      Laygan: Yes, please.
      Zankou turns around swiftly and smacks Laygan across the side of his head. Laygan flies backward and smashes into a group of demons.

    • Phoebe: The sooner we help Kyle find out the truth, the sooner we can all move on.
      Piper: Move on to what?

    • Phoebe: I know the power-switching spell is in here somewhere. We've used it before.
      Piper: Yeah, and if I remember correctly, didn't it bite us in the ass? (Phoebe slams her fists down on the Book and glares at Piper) I'm just sayin'.

    • Piper: So, I'm having second thoughts. Sue me.

    • Zankou has just attacked Piper and Phoebe.
      Zankou: So where's the third one?
      Phoebe: Uh, you know what? We're not really sure, so why don't you just come back later, ok?

    • Piper (helping Denise unfreeze Phoebe and Roger): Okay so, small gesture here. Small, nothing too hard. Don't want to blow up the sister, okay?

    • Phoebe: I'm going to find my powers.

    • Ronnie: Who the hell are you?
      Phoebe: Short version, I'm a witch, and you have my power of premonition, and if you don't come with me, you're probably gonna get killed by a demon. (she nods and shrugs at him.) Got it?

    • Piper: Well, the powers went out the window, didn't they?
      Leo: So you expect to find them laying around on the front lawn?

    • Leo: What happened? Why didn't you fire back?
      Piper (to Phoebe): Go ahead. Tell him.
      Phoebe (guiltily): We sorta lost our powers.

    • Ronnie (with his new powers): Oh, I think this is gonna be a lot of fun.

    • Paige: What's going on?
      Piper: Oh, you know, nothing. Your boyfriend tried to kill my husband.

    • Denise: You guys fight demons here all the time, don't you?
      Piper: Pretty much. Why?
      Denise: See, I always thought that you just threw a bunch of wild parties. You know, things breaking, people screaming. I had no idea.
      Piper: Yeah. Well, at least now you know why we never invited you.

    • Piper (about Denise): Oh, sure. Now she's fearless.

    • Elder: Evolution takes centuries, millennia even. It cannot happen overnight. It must be earned.
      Leo: I think we've earned it.

    • Leo (to a group of Elders): Face it. The fate of the world is no longer in your hands.

    • Piper: Your Avatar friends are promising this big, bright future. Um, will there be burning toast?

    • Leo: What more do you need to know?
      Piper: Well, if you'd let me finish a damn sentence, I'd tell ya.

    • Paige: He's devasted, but he'll be okay. He has to be... it's Utopia.

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